#6. To: wudidiz, All, , *Black Ops - Psyops* (#0)(Edited)
I've seen enough videos of people allegedly outdoors there but dressed in no jackets or very light jackets and with no windblown hair to convince me that what we've been seeing could be staged to some extent from an indoor set somewhere. It's like they seem oblivious to the fact that Connecticut is a northerly, New England state and it is nearly Winter; because they aren't really outside. Either that or maybe they're largely mass hypnotized and so don't shiver in the cold like people who aren't most likely would in that region at this time of year. Very doubtful, imo, that weather conditions there this week have actually been so remarkably extraordinary.
I've seen enough videos of people allegedly outdoors there but dressed in no jackets or very light jackets and with no windblown hair to convince me that what we've been seeing could be staged to some extent from an indoor set somewhere. It's like they seem oblivious to the fact that Connecticut is a northerly, New England state and it is nearly Winter; because they aren't really outside.
You are off your rocker GL. It's been relatively mild in the day in New England these past several days, so no, this isn't on a soundstage in Hollywood.
I guess to you, EVERYTHING you see in the form of video comes from Hollywood.
You are off your rocker GL. It's been relatively mild in the day in New England these past several days, so no, this isn't on a soundstage in Hollywood.
I guess to you, EVERYTHING you see in the form of video comes from Hollywood.
Can you even make a substantive reply that doesn't resemble a mudpie? I guess to you, EVERYTHING you see as a fact of official presentations is real simply because you believe it to be so but the .gov weather report very near there from the 17th to today (Ref: Medical Examiner vid above posted the 18th) doesn't much jive with yours. The windchill factor has gone down to freezing with winds generally not listed as calm (below 3 mph). Where the chart states weather conditions as Fair, that doesn't equate to warm -- just not snow, sleet, hail, rain, fog...that sort of thing.
EVERYTHING you see as a fact of official presentations is real simply because you believe it to be so but the .gov weather report very near there from the 17th to today (Ref: Medical Examiner vid above posted the 18th) doesn't much jive with yours. The windchill factor has gone down to freezing
Bullshit, you've just proven you make things up as you go. You're less credible than ANY news reporter.
I live in Northern New England, and it's been relatively mild these past few days, during the day at least.
Connecticut is in Southern New England, with Newtown being close to NYC.
On the day of the press conference, (December 15th if you bothered looking it up) the temperature was a balmy 44 degrees at noontime in Hartford.
It certainly wasn't freezing or close to it, and there was NOT any wind.
You jump to absurd conclusions without doing even the most basic research, and make announcements as if they were fact, where in reality they are just delusions in your mind.
In terms of the date, look at the date the press conference video was posted...
Here's the CNN link that reports the medical examiner's news conference;
#16. To: FormerLurker, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#13)(Edited)
What's your point? The video you referenced in your post is no longer available here and was not available yesterday for viewing at the CNN article link that you referenced either -- which oddly happens to be dated Dec. 15 but the date on the video there is Dec. 16. ??? I was able to view it by clicking on the Full Story link at the bottom of the page and it is not the same video referenced here [Edit to add: by wudidiz, which I commented on]. Afaik, your Medical Examiner video- reference is an interview that was from days earlier.
Hartford is about 50 miles from Newton -- nearly an hour away; much farther than the .gov weather report that I referenced for nearby Danbury. We can surmise that the videos in question were allegedly filmed before sunset (which was reportedly around 5:00 p.m.) because it is still daylight. These weather reports below from Newton (for a three day span which includes Dec 14 through Dec 16, when the video-ref. you posted was stamped at the CNN site) show that there were no calm winds recorded there on Dec 16 at any time frame and no calm winds from about 7:00 a.m. until after sunset on the 14th and 15th. Note, too, that there were freezing and near freezing temperatures recorded and calm winds does not mean no wind, just less than 3 mph. Temps in the 40s are not warm without a coat and windchill factor makes it seem colder than it is. (Scroll down; Observed at: Bridgeport/Igor|Sikorsky Memorial, CT):
According to the Weather Underground website, the wind speed for Newtown CT on the 15th of December 2012 was 0 mph at 3PM and the temperture was 44 degrees at that time.
According to the Weather Underground website, the wind speed for Newtown CT on the 15th of December 2012 was 0 mph at 3PM and the temperture was 44 degrees at that time.
The Weather Underground?!? Let me get this straight. I posted an official NOAA .gov weather report link for nearby Danbury spanning the timeframe which was relevant to the video referenced by wudidiz that I had commented on; but that wasn't good enough for you, someone who believes the official presentations are factual, so you instead:
1. gave me your own personal weather report and this link from timeanddate.com of conditions in Hartford that is farther away and
2. injected into the discussion a different video of the Medical Examiner being interviewed, which was likely from a different timeframe (i.e. not the same day as the video referenced by wudidiz; which shows a fence in the background and your reference doesn't), and then posted a link to CNN where your video example couldn't be viewed there (except by going through a Full Story routing link to a different article) but it does show a date-stamp conflict on the video box that's a day later than the article you posted -- which has no updated time-stamp to explain that discrepancy.
I addressed your video-sidetrack issues anyway, with linked weather reports from the nearby Danbury area going days further back to Dec 14 (the day of the reported shooting) showing that there were no calm winds recorded between 7:00 a.m. until after sunset for the timeframe of your posted video; but that still wasn't good enough for you. So, you have now:
1. given me very abbreviated linked-info for Danbury...from The Weather Undergound...which calls to mind the terrorists Bernadine Dohrn (who declared War on America) and her husband, Bill Ayers (who regrets that more wasn't done along the lines of the murderous bombings that their terrorist group inflicted).
2. You claimed a 3PM timeframe of 0 mph wind logged there in a graph for Dec 15 as relevant to the Medical Examiner interview that you had referenced tangentially and then provided two linked articles for me to search through that say nothing at all about 3PM or any other specific time for that interview.
3. You state that the interview you referenced tangentially took place at 3:55 PM December 15th, as if it was my job to research and pinpoint that hour for your reference when it has nothing to do with the video from wudidiz that I commented on; with reference to other questionable examples than just the Medical Examiner on that particular day (or not) regarding wind and temperature; especially re: the 14th -- the day of said shooting.
4. You also state: "even IF the weather info you posted was relevant, the temperature was almost 50 degrees, far from freezing, and would be quite comfortable."
However, your own Hartford weather report reference (from timeanddate.com that you posted first as being comparable to Newtown) shows the temperature dropping rapidly there from 44 degrees at Noon to below freezing at 6PM with the 3PM-4PM range around 36 degrees (barely above freezing) but it has no data for wind speeds. That info is relevant to your posted video somewhat in consideration of distance (from Hartford to Treadwell Park, Newton -- about 1 mile from the school; which is cited at your news.yahoo.com link as the location of the Dec 15th Medical Examiner interview) but it is not relevant to the issues I noted in my first comment here as to numerous other examples of other dates and timeframes.
FL: Little Danbury CT is right on the coast, which typically has some type of breeze or wind on most days. Newtown CT on the other hand is further inland, almost as far from the coast as Hartford, but more to the southwest towards NYC.
For the record: The distance between Hartford and Newtown is approx. 50 miles/1 hour. The distance from Newtown to New York City is approx. 80 miles/1.5 hours. The distance from Newtown/Little Danbury Municipal Airport to the Bridgeport weather station is approx. 20-30 miles/30 mins. Since the NOAA .gov site for Danbury Municipal Airport (that I linked first) has changed to info for Dec 19th through the 22nd, I will repost here (for reference and comparison convenience) your timeanddate.com weather report site and your date-changeable wunderground.com weather report site for Danbury, CT. Also, the 3 friendlyforecast.com links that I listed at #16 [for Little Danbury CT (Fairfield County)/Bridgeport/Igor|Sikorsky Memorial, CT] with an additional 4 more for the week onward from Fri, Dec 14 through Thu, Dec 20. Incidentally, your own wunderground.com site for Danbury, CT shows a minimum temp of 21 degrees, a maximum temp of 48 degrees and an average temp of 34 degrees with winds reaching above 10 mph from 8AM to 5PM on the date of Dec 14 (which is the date and timeframes of most relevance to what I initially commented on, aside from the Medical Examiner) and that info corroborates my suspicion "that what we've been seeing could be staged to some extent from an indoor set somewhere." Note that I didn't say everything we've been seeing about this matter was staged on an indoor set somewhere, as you insinuated that's what I meant.
I do not have unlimited time to debate your side issues on this. Suffice it to say, regarding your video reference, that there was wind speed of close to 6 mph recorded at the Danbury link I posted for the 15th during the 3PM-4PM timeframe, which you noted for the Medical Examiner interview in question on the 15th -- high enough that it should have been noticeable as to hair ruffling and such in that video; with the windchill factor likely colder than the 45 degrees recorded there. I, too, live in a northern region and have for most of my life. I do not consider temps in the 40s (windy or not) to be warm enough to be outdoors for an extended period without a coat/jacket/sweater/sweatshirt, which is what is depicted in a number of videos with no sign of the people appearing to feel cold. So, unless you want to stand in a temp adjusted walk-in cooler for quite some time in a thin shirt with a fan blowing at adjusted wind speeds for every video example in question and then testify that your hair wasn't blowing and you didn't feel chilly at all, what you've declared to be comfortable and mild conditions for others is entirely irrelevant and I thoroughly disagree with that assertion.
However, your own Hartford weather report reference (from timeanddate.com that you posted first as being comparable to Newtown) shows the temperature dropping rapidly there from 44 degrees at Noon to below freezing at 6PM with the 3PM-4PM range around 36 degrees (barely above freezing) but it has no data for wind speeds.
You are lying. If you use the same website you've been using to look up weather on the coast of Connecticut, and instead enter HARTFORD for December 15, 2012, you will see that the temperature there was 44 to 42 degrees between 3 and 4 PM of that day, with no wind at 3PM, and a mild wind of 3.5 mph at 4PM.
In terms of what I had posted in regards to Hartford earlier, it matches what the Friendly Forecast website gives. Anybody can look it up to verify that fact.
As far as the wind data, scroll down on the timeanddate webpage till you see "Detailed list of observations in Hartford" and expand the item for "Weather on Dec 15". You will see that there was no wind at 2:53 PM, and a 3 mph wind at 3:53 PM, which agrees with the Friendly Forecast site.
At 6PM (from the Hartford-Brainard Airport) the temperature was 40 degrees. The observation for 5:53 PM from the timeanddate site is reported as 36 degrees. Both sites report 34 degrees at 7PM and 6:53PM. So no, the temperature did not dip to below freezing at 6PM as you claim, which really doesn't matter, but indicates you are either making this up as you go or are seriously confused when it comes to looking up data.
Regardless, it's the weather for Hartford, not Newtown, where Newtown stayed at 44 degrees during the timeframe and had no wind at all.
Is it that you don't know how to look things up, or are you deliberately misleading people on this for whatever reason? Can't you just admit that you were wrong?
At 6PM (from the Hartford-Brainard Airport) the temperature was 40 degrees. The observation for 5:53 PM from the timeanddate site is reported as 36 degrees. Both sites report 34 degrees at 7PM and 6:53PM. So no, the temperature did not dip to below freezing at 6PM as you claim, which really doesn't matter, but indicates you are either making this up as you go or are seriously confused when it comes to looking up data.
P.S. It's not a matter of "as I claim". The info at your very own source in that reply (Recent Weather in U.S.A. – Connecticut – Hartford at timeanddate.com) shows the temp plunging to 31 degrees by 6PM. Check it fast to verify because the data for Dec 15th is being phased off of the page now to move forward.
Edited to include first sentence, for highlighting, parenthesis, spelling and to correct the link.
I saw the crisis actors at Sandy Hook it convinced me that it was a fraud. But here is an interesting fact that no one has ever mentioned. Gun control advocate Josh Sugarman is from Newtown Connecticut. Sugarman is the head of the top gun control organization in America. Oh guns are so scary. I know something about the zionist sugar interests in the Americas. So I always wondered why a zionist named Sugarman would be a leading advocate of gun control. The sugar people committed so many horrors, they would be the last ones you would ever want to surrender your guns to. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Sugarmann
Thank you for your reply. I was never there, I saw that character on youtube laughing and smiling until the cameras began to roll, and then he began to cry as if on cue. But I thought it was interesting that Josh Sugarmann, the head of the largest gun control organization in America, grew up in Newtown Connecticut. I've never heard that mentioned before. If I were a detective, Sugarmann would be a prime suspect, seeing as how his organization benefitted.