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Sandy Hook Hoax "Medical Examiner" Wayne Carver
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#30. To: GreyLmist (#27)
WTF don't you understand about the fact the press conference took place on Saturday, December 15th, between 3 and 4 PM? You are all over the place with dates and times, ranging from the day of the shooting to four days later, and all over the place with geographic locations, ranging from the Connecticut coast (Little Danbury) to Hartford, to God knows where else. You refuse to accept that the temperature of 44 degrees with no wind does not require heavy clothing, nor will zero wind stir up people's hairdo's. You're beating a dead horse. Just admit you're wrong. Judging from your inability to read the weather pages which ARE available, or to determine the correct geographic location, I'd say you were off on that as well. Regardless, you posted post after post of weather from LITTLE DANBURY, NOT DANBURY, across a 4 or 5 day timeframe. You refuse to look at data from Newtown or Danbury, misrepresent and lie about data concerning Hartford, and are grasping at non-existant straws. Then you wonder why a lot of people can see right through your "no-planes" nonsense. I am not going to presume your terrorist-sounding Weather Underground site (for the area of Danbury in-general and from no weather station in particular, which could have been issued from somebody's garage, for all I know at this point)ought to be considered as more accurate than the friendlyforecast.com info that I posted from yet another official weather station -- in Bridgeport -- which shows winds at about 6 mph for the 2 hours of 3PM-4PM on Dec 15th. A) From Weather Underground (weather service) - Wiki B) Bridgeport is on the coast. Why is it you like to confuse inland weather with coastal weather? I found more detailed wind data as to speed and direction at your Weather Underground site, btw (past a large blank section and an astronomy section, towards the bottom of the page). Suffice it to say that the speed was not logged at 0 mph all day or at any time on the 15th -- Uh huh. From History for Danbury, CT (Weather Underground) Do you know how to read a graph? Between 2PM and 11PM there was 0 mph winds (ie. NO WIND). Get real. I am the first person to have posted an official weather report for Danbury -- not you -- and it was the one you rejected from NOAA .gov at Danbury Municipal Airport. So, I posted another offical weather station report for the nearby area -- friendlyforecast.com in Bridgeport -- and I have only posted those two official sources. It is you who have confused even yourself by injecting other than an official source and farther away; backtracking to cite Danbury in-general from a hodge-podge compiling of a commercial source when you refused to accept the official source from that very same area. Bye4now. Edited next to last sentence. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
You'll have to scroll down to the bottom of the page for what I already explained to you about loggings of Calm winds there not meaning no wind -- just less than 3 mph -- and how that would inaccurately translate as an average of no wind because of non-numerical/non-specific entries in those timeframes. Take a break. I have other work to do now. Edited italics. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
P.S. It's not a matter of "as I claim". The info at your very own source in that reply (Recent Weather in U.S.A. – Connecticut – Hartford at timeanddate.com) shows the temp plunging to 31 degrees by 6PM. Check it fast to verify because the data for Dec 15th is being phased off of the page now to move forward. Edited to include first sentence, for highlighting, parenthesis, spelling and to correct the link. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Like I said, you DON'T GIVE UP do you, even when proven wrong with factual data. Here's some more data for you. In case you didn't know, Eastern Standard Time (EST) is 5 hours behind Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), and in 24 hour time, 3PM is 1500, 4PM is 1600. Thus, 3PM to 4PM EST would be 2000 to 2100 GMT in 24 hour time. And oh yeah, 0 means ZERO. From Past Weather Conditions for KDXR (Danbury Municipal Airport) Edit: fixed link Tabular Listing: December 15, 2012 - 0:00 through December 16, 2012 - 00:00 GMT At 19:53 GMT (2:53 PM EST) there was ZERO wind, and at 20:53 GMT (3:53 PM EST) there was ALSO ZERO wind. Do you get it yet? Are you high, blind, or just lying to see if you can get away with it? From Recent Weather in U.S.A. – Connecticut – Hartford Dec 15 5:53 PM Clear. Chilly. 36 °F No wind - 62% 30.26 "Hg 10 mi Neil, I've tried various ways to fix this table, but no matter what I do in preview, once posted it'll delete the last < / table> tag and break the output. Any ideas? It looks like once subsequent text passed the last row of the table, everythings back to normal.
While I'm at it, here's the tabular data from the timeanddate.com page for Hartford CT on December 15th 2012 before it falls off the historical time window; Edit: Had another browser window with more complete data, so I updated the table. Dec 15 2:53 PM Sunny. Quite cool. 44 °F No wind 47% 30.25 "Hg 10 mi 3:53 PM Sunny. Quite cool. 42 °F 3 mph 49% 30.26 "Hg 10 mi 4:53 PM Clear. Chilly. 40 °F No wind 51% 30.25 "Hg 10 mi 5:53 PM Clear. Chilly. 36 °F No wind 62% 30.26 "Hg 10 mi 6:53 PM Clear. Chilly. 34 °F No wind 67% 30.27 "Hg 10 mi 7:53 PM Clear. Chilly. 31 °F 3 mph 79% 30.29 "Hg 10 mi 8:53 PM Clear. Chilly. 32 °F No wind 79% 30.29 "Hg 8 mi 9:53 PM Clear. Chilly. 36 °F No wind 64% 30.29 "Hg 10 mi 10:53 PM Passing clouds. Chilly. 36 °F 3 mph 62% 30.29 "Hg 10 mi 11:53 PM Clear. Chilly. 35 °F 3 mph 67% 30.28 "Hg 10 mi Post 39 was meant for you, I misspelled your handle in the To: field. Something about post 37 is messed up. Tried using a closing table tag, and it looks ok in preview, but once you hit the post button the last closing table tag is deleted, causing the post to get all messed up.
Quit giving me weather reports for Hartford. Dec 15th doesn't even appear at that one anymore. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Here's some more data for you. In case you didn't know, Eastern Standard Time (EST) is 5 hours behind Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), and in 24 hour time, 3PM is 1500, 4PM is 1600. Thus, 3PM to 4PM EST would be 2000 to 2100 GMT in 24 hour time. And oh yeah, 0 means ZERO. From Past Weather Conditions for KDXR (Danbury Municipal Airport) Edit: fixed link Tabular Listing: December 15, 2012 - 0:00 through December 16, 2012 - 00:00 GMT You haven't proven anything wrong. Let's recap what's going on here circularly with you. The discussion of weather reports started at Post #10, where I gave you this official NOAA .gov stamped link with the ID of KDXR in the path for Danbury Municipal Airport: http://w1.weather.gov/obhistory/KDXR.html Even though it is not necessary to do any Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) conversions there because the timeframes are posted more simply in Eastern Standard Time (EST), KDXR/Danbury Municipal Airport wasn't a suitable enough location for you then -- or at least not from the NOAA .gov source -- and you promptly detoured the matter at Post #13 to farther away Hartford; prefering instead to discuss the weather conditions there for comparison via your timeanddate.com link. At Post #16, I tried to bring the focus back closer to the Newtown area from an official weather station near there but one having a different location than KDXR/Danbury Municipal Airport, which you had found objectionable at that time. I picked: Bridgeport/Igor|Sikorsky Memorial, CT at the friendlyforecast.com site. Whereupon, at Post #18, you preferred to reference the Danbury area more generally from an unofficial, patchworked commercial-source: the terrorist sounding Weather Underground site. At Post #22, I listed the official weather station reports from friendlyforecast.com for the week of Dec 14th through Dec 20th and your two unofficial links, as well, for comparison. Then, after the above noted deflections from you, (this is the funny part) at Post #25 you accuse me of misdirecting people to the coast and tossing out red herrings there instead of using this friendlyforecast.com link (as my official weather station substitute-site for NOAA), which happens to be from...Danbury Municipal Airport and is the very same location I had posted in the first place that you replaced with Hartford. lol Now that you finally seem to be ok with the Danbury Municipal Airport location and that friendlyforecast website as an official reference, that'll be fine by me and, for ease of access, I'll even post links here for the week of Dec 14th through Dec 20th. At Post #26, you proceeded to give me more weather reports for farther away Hartford and stuff and now here we are at another funny part -- your info at Post #37 for ID:...KDXR (Danbury Municipal Airport), which is the very same KDXR ID I gave you with the official NOAA .gov link. lol I can only guess that maybe you just don't like NOAA .gov for some reason -- even though the format there does (afaik) numerically log precise speeds below 3 mph rather than using the less-specific, text-word "Calm" for those ranges -- but it has become unusable now anyway for the timeframes in question. I don't know how you circuitously got to that far removed, MesoWest / University of Utah locale for the Dec 15th tabulation there of KDXR (Danbury Municipal Airport) in Connecticut or why (since you already knew that the friendlyforecast site is the more direct and user-friendly path for Danbury Municipal Airport info) but it is unnecessarily overcomplicated with the Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) format rather than the Eastern Standard Time (EST) format used for Danbury Municipal Airport readings at the friendlyforecast site. I'm supposing that you selected it because it numerically shows wind speeds of 0 mph rather than the text-format of "Calm" for speeds below 3 mph. Perhaps you've decided that every other weather site posted, even by you, is unreliable if it states "Calm" instead of 0. (Ex: your Weather Underground site at the bottom of the page) | Edited to correct this section by extracting what I had mistakenly said about the number of zeros listed at the MesoWest/Utah site so as to minimize confusion here about it. Edited to correct errors in this section by rewording and highlighting: My impression of your weather source out West is that they only log whole number estimations of wind speeds and maybe don't log wind speeds there below Observed at: Danbury Municipal Airport, CT [scroll down approx. 1/3 of the page to reference] Newtown CT (Fairfield County) Hourly Weather Data For December 14 2012 Newtown CT (Fairfield County) Hourly Weather Data For December 15 2012 Newtown CT (Fairfield County) Hourly Weather Data For December 16 2012 Newtown CT (Fairfield County) Hourly Weather Data For December 17 2012 Newtown CT (Fairfield County) Hourly Weather Data For December 18 2012 Newtown CT (Fairfield County) Hourly Weather Data For December 19 2012 Newtown CT (Fairfield County) Hourly Weather Data For December 20 2012 Edited for various readability issues and Post #25 link correction. Two additional error-edits noted with major restructuring at ending paragraphs 6 and 7. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Dec 15 2:53 PM Sunny. Quite cool. 44 °F No wind 47% 30.25 "Hg 10 mi 3:53 PM Sunny. Quite cool. 42 °F 3 mph 49% 30.26 "Hg 10 mi 4:53 PM Clear. Chilly. 40 °F No wind 51% 30.25 "Hg 10 mi Does this mean you're willing to agree that those temps in the 40s are not quite comforable but quite cool and chilly? ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
You're the one who keeps trying to say that Hartford had high winds, and that it dropped to freezing in the day. Stop spewing bullshit and perhaps I wont have to keep correcting you. However, your own Hartford weather report reference (from timeanddate.com that you posted first as being comparable to Newtown) shows the temperature dropping rapidly there from 44 degrees at Noon to below freezing at 6PM with the 3PM-4PM range around 36 degrees (barely above freezing) but it has no data for wind speeds. I proved you were full of it on that comment. You also loved to post weather for the Connecticut coast, which has nothing to do with the weather in Newtown. As far as Newtown, it was 44-42 degrees at the time of the news conference with no wind. Do you acknowledge that to be true or not? Warm enough to be comfortable with a light jacket. Do you agree that no wind would result in no wind blown hair? Hey genius, that is the official weather data for the Danbury Municipal Airport, which you love to toss around yet you can't seem to understand it. 0 mph means exactly that. AND, GMT is the official time for weather data. If it's too tough for you to understand, stop posting about things that are beyond your understanding. What don't you comprehend about the fact the NOAA site only goes back several days, and doesn't show the weather for the 15th anymore? Are you saying that the official data isn't correct, that really it was below freezing with high winds, just because YOU say so? A quick look seems to show it is a rather complex table. The program code that does the work with this is 3rd party. The idea is to ensure that all the HTML coding is properly done so no unclosed HTML tagging bleeds past the end of the document and screws up the rest of the text on the web page. It does that by first tearing the HTML text apart, preserving the HTML codes along side each piece of text, and then reassembling it. So if it's missing the / table tag, then I can only guess things were a bit too complex for that module to handle. A bug. I know that's not a helpful answer. I'll have to play with it to be sure before seeing about a possible fix. I don't expect my working with that 3rd party software would be very productive though, but maybe there is an update.
I also noticed the original code contains a < clear="all"> at the end, but it get's converted to < c***r="all"> on a preview. Some public officers have very poor media relations skills, and Dr. H. Wayne Carver is among those. Because of the very nature of the duties of the Office of Medical Examiner (or coroner, a common law elected position that has been replaced in many jurisdictions) most do not employ press relations people. The duties also seem to attract ghoulish doctors, some of who would likely fail in private practice. (Viewing the video speaks for itself.) Do any of you kiddies remember what a weirdo "The Coroner To The Stars", Dr. Thomas Noguchi was? He finally went too far and was fired when he speculated about the death of Natalie Wood, weaving a press conference scenario of how she may have fallen from a boat with no way of knowing if his account resembled the facts. Carver's attempts at levity (it was a spree killing at a school you goddam weirdo) was not only in extremely poor taste but it also demonstrates just how socially deprived/disordered he is. (Here's a hint, Doctor. When no one returns your smiles get serious and remember that it isn't about you, you inept and disgusting tub of shit) Also, his layer of blubber and possible use of narcotics (used by many doctors and health care professionals with access to them) may reduce his sensitivity to cold. When I take opiates or synthetic equivalents I'm less susceptible to wind chill.
No wind chill that day. There was no wind after 2 in the afternoon, and the temperature was 44 to 42 degrees. That's a balmy winter day for New Englanders, light coats or a doctor's smock over a t-shirt would be sufficient. Noted, although he's much less critical, imo, concerning investigations of observed weather-effect anomalies than are more pertinent examples of others and the landscape on Dec 14th. There were no calm winds reported for Newton from 9:00 a.m. until 6 p.m. on that date. Winds were between a low of 4 mph and a high of 11.5 mph the entire time for daylight-condtions re: allegedly filming outdoors and other factors in question like noticeable movements or not of things such as hair, breath-vapor, tree branches, leaves, etc.; people in thin shirts -- especially children -- appearing not to be cold after supposedly being outside for quite a while; many parents and adults seemingly unconcerned about children without warmer clothing in-transit to and from the fire station and during interviews. From midnight until the hour of 11 a.m., temperatures decreased for 8 hours far below the freezing point (from 23 to 21 degrees), then went to very near freezing (34 degrees) for 2 hours until 11 a.m. when it registered at 40 degrees but went no higher in the afternoon than 46 degrees for the 3 hours of 3 p.m. through 5 p.m. -- dropping rapidly from there during the hour of 5 p.m. (approx. sunset) to very near the freezing point again at 6 p.m. (33 degrees) and steadily dropping below freezing therafter to 26 degrees through 11 p.m.; with the winds and humidity impacting the windchill factor, which would make it seem colder than the logged temperatures. Edited for clarifications, readability, etc. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Yep, the entire town of Newtown is filled with actors, people who don't have a real life, and are just there to act for the cameras. Uh huh. Please try to post more relevant info if you're going to give a weather report. First off, the children did not begin to leave the school till somewhere around 10 AM. At that time, the temperature was 38 degrees with a 7 mph wind. The temperature then climbed steadily up to 48 degrees through 3 PM. The winds ranged from 5 to 12 mph during that timeframe. From Past Weather Conditions for KDXR Tabular Listing: December 14, 2012 - 0:00 through December 15, 2012 - 00:00 EST You can report weather at 11 PM and say that it was freezing, but so what? These events did not happen at 11 PM at night, so why even bother bringing it up? As far as your claims of "thin shirts" and all that, can you post an image of any examples? Concerning "seeing" the breaths of people outdoors, that usually doesn't happen unless the humidity is high and the difference between the dew point and actual temperature is 5 degrees or less. Throughout the timeframe of the evacuation and reuniting of the children and their parents, the difference was greater than that, so not seeing condensation is to be expected. In fact it'd be quite odd if there HAD been condensation at those temperatures on a sunny day. As far as wind, there are signs of wind in various clips. You won't see the tree branches sway at those wind speeds however. In terms of clothing, all of the images I've seen appear consistant with what people would wear in those conditions, with some children wearing heavy winter coats, while others wore sweatshirts or light jackets. You again are gyrating around some dubious claims in an effort to conclude that this was all shot in a Hollywood studio. Get a grip of yourself. Uh huh. What we can be relatively certain about is that officialdom typically tells us absurdities malevolently and you will act like the crab for them that pulls others back into the box if they try to think outside of it beyond the setting of your one-dimensional parameters. Secretive societies with a penchant for playing funeral games -- and idealogues, too, that tend to believe the ends justify the means and will lie or worse to get what they want -- probably aren't news to you so posturing as if there couldn't be any such thing involved in this is odd, especially considering that this is from your post at #58 of 4um Title: How 9-11 Was Done: From Wiki ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
You're trying to equate the "legend" of Hani Hanjour's flying experience with the existance of an entire town of people, many who know each other personally, who are neighbors with the people whose lives were affected by this massacre. You are claiming that these people who have had their children killed, along with the families of the teachers and principal, are all fake. You are trying to claim that everyone, including the children, are all actors. Do you not realize how insane you sound? I posted a summary of the weather for the day at Newtown, CT from the nearby Danbury Municipal Airport (not somewhere out West, like your college-reference) with a link to verify. That you post something conflicting doesn't make mine wrong. I sort of suspect your MesoWest site and maybe you too are linked to the NSA facility in Mormonly-covert Utah. Regardless, take a hike and find somebody else to talk to. Edited sentence 1. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Are you retarded? Did you even look at the source of the MesoWest data? It's from the National Weather Service you fool. The weather I posted is THE OFFICIAL NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DATA FROM DANBURY MUNICIPAL AIRPORT. Do you UNDERSTAND? That you can't read tabular data just indicates you aren't very bright. You didn't exactly post conflicting data, you just tossed out a lot of red herrings that had nothing to do with the weather around the time of the evacuation of the school. You can report weather at 11 PM and say that it was freezing, but so what? These events did not happen at 11 PM at night, so why even bother bringing it up? As far as your claims of "thin shirts" and all that, can you post an image of any examples? No wind chill that day. There was no wind after 2 in the afternoon, and the temperature was 44 to 42 degrees. That's a balmy winter day for New Englanders, light coats or a doctor's smock over a t-shirt would be sufficient. Well, that's a bit cool for me, and I did notice that the doctor was wearing a long lab coat and that he kept his hands in his pockets while keeping his arms tight to his body. In short, he was posing as expected of a doctor in 40°-ish weather who wanted to be recorded in a clean white lab blouse instead of something more appropriate, i.e., his classic grey tweed LONDON FOG overcoat.
I sort of suspect you work for the folks at Fort Meade, that or Tel Aviv. You toss out these "it was all done in Hollywood" tales on sensitive topics, such as 9/11 and now the Sandy Hook shootings, to make anyone who questions the official tale look like an idiot or worse. There ARE some serious questions that need to be asked about this case. However, insisting that it was all done in a studio, that there were no children killed that morning, and that all of the town is fake, the people are all actors, well, that's something somebody would post if they are ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING in the COVER UP itself of what REALLY happened that morning. Also, remember that the temps dip to the 20's at night, so on a sunny day with no wind, and the temps around the mid-forties, a typical New Englander would find that to be pretty mild. Congratulations Former Lurker, you got the nut to crack. God is always good!
I think the nut cracked well before this evening... LOL
I've lost track of how many times I've heard that type of thing from you and Ricky. I guess that means you're both way more "cracked" than me, as you said. You don't look like an idiot because I question things of official presentations, FL. More like because you don't question their presentations enough and instead would rather mangle and twist most anything I and other questioners say or post info about on such subjects and then fabricate it into an unrecognizable mess. Edited sentence 1 at section 1 and sentence 2 at section 2. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Many but none to you. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Especially a man as fat as that medical examiner was. All that fat insulates him pretty good. God is always good!
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"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#31. To: GreyLmist (#27)
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The NOAA .gov link that I posted first (but is no longer showing the timeframe in question) was for Danbury Municipal Airport, not the coast
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#32. To: GreyLmist (#27)
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Weather Underground is a commercial weather service that provides real-time weather information via the Internet. Weather Underground provides weather reports for most major cities across the world on its Web site, as well as local weather reports for newspapers and Web sites. Most of its United States information comes from the National Weather Service (NWS), as information from that agency is within the public domain by federal law. The Web site is available in many languages, and an ad-free version of the site with additional features is available for an annual fee.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#33. To: GreyLmist (#27)
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"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#34. To: FormerLurker (#31)
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You refuse to look at data from Newtown or Danbury, misrepresent and lie about data concerning Hartford, and are grasping at non-existant straws.
#35. To: FormerLurker (#33)
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Between 2PM and 11PM there was 0 mph winds (ie. NO WIND).
#36. To: FormerLurker (#26)
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At 6PM (from the Hartford-Brainard Airport) the temperature was 40 degrees. The observation for 5:53 PM from the timeanddate site is reported as 36 degrees. Both sites report 34 degrees at 7PM and 6:53PM. So no, the temperature did not dip to below freezing at 6PM as you claim, which really doesn't matter, but indicates you are either making this up as you go or are seriously confused when it comes to looking up data.
#37. To: GreyLmist (#35)
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You'll have to scroll down to the bottom of the page for what I already explained to you about loggings of Calm winds there not meaning no wind -- just less than 3 mph -- and how that would inaccurately translate as an average of no wind because of non-numerical/non-specific entries in those timeframes.
Time(GMT) Temperature Dew Wet Bulb Relative Wind Wind Quality Pressure Sea level Altimeter 1500 m Weather Visibility Point Temperature Humidity Speed Direction check pressure Pressure conditions ° F ° F ° F % mph in in in in miles 23:53 33.1 27.0 30.8 78 0 29.76 30.27 30.26 25.25 clear 10.00 22:53 32.0 27.0 30.1 81 0 29.75 30.27 30.25 25.24 clear 10.00 21:53 37.0 27.0 33.1 67 0 29.75 30.26 30.25 25.24 clear 10.00 20:53 42.1 26.1 35.7 53 0 29.75 30.26 30.25 25.24 clear 10.00 19:53 44.1 26.1 36.9 49 0 29.75 30.26 30.25 25.24 clear 10.00 18:53 44.1 26.1 36.9 49 0 29.75 30.26 30.25 25.24 clear 10.00 17:53 44.1 26.1 36.9 49 5 NE 29.77 30.28 30.27 25.26 clear 10.00 16:53 42.1 26.1 35.8 53 5 NNE 29.80 30.31 30.30 25.29 clear 10.00 15:53 41.0 28.0 35.8 60 5 E 29.82 30.32 30.32 25.30 clear 10.00 14:53 34.0 28.9 32.0 82 0 29.82 30.33 30.32 25.30 clear 7.00 13:53 28.0 25.0 27.0 88 0 29.81 30.32 30.31 25.29 fog 6.00 12:53 21.9 19.0 21.1 88 0 29.80 30.31 30.30 25.29 clear 7.00 11:53 21.9 19.0 21.1 88 0 29.78 30.30 30.28 25.27 clear 8.00 10:53 21.9 19.0 21.1 88 0 29.78 30.29 30.28 25.27 clear 8.00 9:53 21.9 19.0 21.1 88 0 29.76 30.27 30.26 25.25 clear 9.00 8:53 23.0 19.9 22.1 88 0 29.76 30.27 30.26 25.25 clear 9.00 7:53 23.0 21.0 22.4 92 0 29.76 30.27 30.26 25.25 clear 7.00 6:53 26.1 21.9 24.7 84 0 29.75 30.26 30.25 25.24 clear 10.00 5:53 25.0 21.9 24.0 88 0 29.74 30.24 30.23 25.23 clear 10.00 4:53 26.1 23.0 25.1 88 0 29.74 30.24 30.23 25.23 clear 9.00 3:53 26.1 23.0 25.1 88 0 29.72 30.22 30.21 25.21 clear 9.00 2:53 28.9 24.1 27.3 82 0 29.72 30.22 30.21 25.21 clear 10.00 1:53 27.0 23.0 25.6 85 3 WSW 29.73 30.23 30.22 25.22 clear 10.00 0:53 28.9 24.1 27.3 82 0 29.72 30.22 30.21 25.21 clear 10.00 23:53 30.0 24.1 27.9 78 0 29.70 30.20 30.19 25.19 clear 10.00
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#38. To: GreyLmist (#36)
P.S. It's not a matter of "as I claim". The info at your very own source in that reply (Recent Weather in U.S.A. – Connecticut – Hartford at timeanddate.com) shows the temp plunging to 31 degrees by 6PM.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#39. To: Pinguinte (#37)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#40. To: All (#39)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#41. To: GreyLmist (#36)
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P.S. It's not a matter of "as I claim". The info at your very own source in that reply (Recent Weather in U.S.A. – Connecticut – Hartford at timeanddate.com) shows the temp plunging to 31 degrees by 6PM. Check it fast to verify because the data for Dec 15th is being phased off of the page now to move forward.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#42. To: Pinguinite (#39)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#43. To: FormerLurker (#41)
While I'm at it, here's the tabular data from the timeanddate.com page for Hartford CT on December 15th 2012 before it falls off the historical time window;
#44. To: FormerLurker (#38)
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Like I said, you DON'T GIVE UP do you, even when proven wrong with factual data.
strike5out 3 mph. Am not sure but think that the zero readings are probably numerical-shorthand for the word "Calm" (meaning below a mph point, which doesn't necessarily equate to 0 exactly) and may not really be an accurate reflection of no wind at all, imo. Due to the MesoWest/Utah problems of GMT complexity and non-proximity to Connecticut, I suggest we use the official friendlyforecast data for Danbury Municipal Airport in any other discussions of the weather conditions for the Newtown, CT area:
#45. To: FormerLurker (#41)
Edit: Had another browser window with more complete data, so I updated the table.
#46. To: GreyLmist (#43)
Quit giving me weather reports for Hartford. Dec 15th doesn't even appear at that one anymore.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#47. To: GreyLmist (#45)
Does this mean you're willing to agree that those temps in the 40s are not quite comforable but quite cool and chilly?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#48. To: GreyLmist (#44)
University of Utah locale for the Dec 15th tabulation there of KDXR (Danbury Municipal Airport) in Connecticut or why (since you already knew that the friendlyforecast site is the more direct and user-friendly path for Danbury Municipal Airport info) but it is unnecessarily overcomplicated with the Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) format rather than the Eastern Standard Time (EST)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#49. To: GreyLmist (#44)
(Edited)
your info at Post #37 for ID:...KDXR (Danbury Municipal Airport), which is the very same KDXR ID I gave you with the official NOAA .gov link.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#50. To: FormerLurker (#39)
Neil, I've tried various ways to fix this table, but no matter what I do in preview, once posted it'll delete the last < / table> tag and break the output.
#51. To: Pinguinite (#50)
So if it's missing the / table tag, then I can only guess things were a bit too complex for that module to handle. A bug.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#52. To: wudidiz (#0)
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#53. To: HOUNDDAWG (#52)
When I take opiates or synthetic equivalents I'm less susceptible to wind chill.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#54. To: HOUNDDAWG (#52)
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his layer of blubber and possible use of narcotics (used by many doctors and health care professionals with access to them) may reduce his sensitivity to cold. When I take opiates or synthetic equivalents I'm less susceptible to wind chill.
#55. To: GreyLmist (#54)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#56. To: GreyLmist, All (#54)
(Edited)
There were no calm winds reported for Newton from 9:00 a.m. until 6 p.m. on that date. Winds were between a low of 4 mph and a high of 11.5 mph the entire time for daylight-condtions re: allegedly filming outdoors and other factors in question like noticeable movements or not of things such as hair, tree branches, leaves, breath-vapor, etc.; people in thin shirts -- especially children -- appearing not to be cold after supposedly being outside for quite a while; many parents and adults seemingly unconcerned about children without warmer clothing in-transit to and from the fire station and during interviews. From midnight until the hour of 11 a.m., temperatures decreased for 8 hours far below the freezing point (from 23 to 21 degrees), then went to very near freezing (34 degrees) for 2 hours until 11 a.m. when it registered at 40 degrees but went no higher in the afternoon than 46 degrees for the 3 hours of 3 p.m. through 5 p.m. -- dropping rapidly from there during the hour of 5 p.m. (approx. sunset) to very near the freezing point again at 6 p.m. (33 degrees) and steadily dropping below freezing therafter to 26 degrees through 11 p.m.; with the winds and humidity impacting the windchill factor, which would make it seem colder than the logged temperatures.
Time(EST) Temperature Dew Wet Bulb Relative Wind Wind Quality Pressure Sea level Altimeter 1500 m Weather Visibility Point Temperature Humidity Speed Direction check pressure Pressure conditions ° F ° F ° F % mph in in in in miles 23:53 26.1 23.0 25.1 88 0 29.74 30.24 30.23 25.23 clear 9.00 22:53 26.1 23.0 25.1 88 0 29.72 30.22 30.21 25.21 clear 9.00 21:53 28.9 24.1 27.3 82 0 29.72 30.22 30.21 25.21 clear 10.00 20:53 27.0 23.0 25.6 85 3 WSW 29.73 30.23 30.22 25.22 clear 10.00 19:53 28.9 24.1 27.3 82 0 29.72 30.22 30.21 25.21 clear 10.00 18:53 30.0 24.1 27.9 78 0 29.70 30.20 30.19 25.19 clear 10.00 17:53 33.1 24.1 29.8 69 0 29.68 30.18 30.17 25.18 clear 10.00 16:53 37.9 23.0 32.4 54 0 29.66 30.16 30.15 25.16 clear 10.00 15:53 46.0 19.9 36.3 35 5 WNW 29.65 30.15 30.14 25.15 clear 10.00 14:53 48.0 21.0 37.6 34 6 W 29.64 30.14 30.13 25.14 clear 10.00 13:53 46.0 23.0 37.0 40 10 W 29.64 30.14 30.13 25.14 clear 10.00 12:53 45.0 24.1 36.8 43 12 WSW 29.66 30.16 30.15 25.16 clear 10.00 11:53 42.1 25.0 35.4 50 9 WSW 29.68 30.18 30.17 25.18 clear 10.00 10:53 39.9 25.0 34.2 55 10 WSW 29.72 30.22 30.21 25.21 clear 10.00 9:53 37.9 24.1 32.8 57 8 WSW 29.74 30.24 30.23 25.23 clear 9.00 8:53 34.0 25.0 30.7 69 7 WSW 29.75 30.25 30.24 25.24 clear 8.00 7:53 21.9 18.0 20.8 84 0 29.75 30.26 30.24 25.24 fog 5.00 6:53 21.0 19.0 20.4 92 0 29.75 30.26 30.25 25.24 clear 7.00 5:53 21.0 18.0 20.1 88 0 29.75 30.27 30.25 25.24 clear 8.00 4:53 21.9 19.0 21.1 88 0 29.76 30.27 30.26 25.25 clear 8.00 3:53 21.9 19.0 21.1 88 0 29.77 30.28 30.27 25.26 clear 7.00 2:53 23.0 19.9 22.1 88 0 29.79 30.30 30.29 25.28 clear 8.00 1:53 23.0 19.9 22.1 88 0 29.80 30.31 30.30 25.29 clear 7.00 0:53 24.1 21.0 23.1 88 0 29.80 30.31 30.30 25.29 clear 7.00 23:53 23.0 21.0 22.4 92 0 29.82 30.33 30.32 25.30 clear 8.00 
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"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#57. To: FormerLurker (#55)
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Yep, the entire town of Newtown is filled with actors, people who don't have a real life, and are just there to act for the cameras.
You will find NO "professional experience", since the man couldn't even fly a single engine plane. Apparently he was handed this "license" as part of the "Legend".
See also: Russian Spy Ring Aimed to Make Children Agents - WSJ.com - with 3.5 min. audio In larger networks the organization can be complex with many methods to avoid detection, including clandestine cell systems. Often the players have never met. [sic] sometimes a person with a well-prepared synthetic identity, called a Legend in tradecraft, may attempt to infiltrate a target organization.
The spies' false identities, also called "legends," were good enough for them to get jobs and mortgages and start families in America,
#58. To: GreyLmist (#57)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#59. To: FormerLurker (#56)
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#60. To: GreyLmist (#59)
I posted a summary of the weather for the day from Danbury Municipal Airport. That you post something conflicting doesn't make mine wrong. I sort of suspect your MesoWest site and maybe you too are linked to the NSA facility in Mormonly- covert Utah.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#61. To: GreyLmist (#59)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#62. To: FormerLurker (#53)
When I take opiates or synthetic equivalents I'm less susceptible to wind chill.
#63. To: GreyLmist, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#59)
I sort of suspect your MesoWest site and maybe you too are linked to the NSA facility
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#64. To: HOUNDDAWG (#62)
I did notice that the doctor was wearing a long lab coat and that he kept his hands in his pockets while keeping his arms tight to his body. In short, he was posing as expected of a doctor in 40°-ish weather who wanted to be recorded in a clean white lab blouse instead of something more appropriate
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#65. To: GreyLmist, FormerLurker (#59)
I sort of suspect your MesoWest site and maybe you too are linked to the NSA facility in Mormonly- covert Utah. Regardless, take a hike and find somebody else to talk to.
#66. To: RickyJ (#65)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#67. To: FormerLurker, RickyJ (#63)
(Edited)
I sort of suspect you work for the folks at Fort Meade, that or Tel Aviv.
You toss out these "it was all done in Hollywood" tales on sensitive topics, such as 9/11 and now the Sandy Hook shootings, to make anyone who questions the official tale look like an idiot or worse.
#68. To: FormerLurker (#61)
As far as your claims of "thin shirts" and all that, can you post an image of any examples?
#69. To: FormerLurker (#64)
Also, remember that the temps dip to the 20's at night, so on a sunny day with no wind, and the temps around the mid-forties, a typical New Englander would find that to be pretty mild.
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