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Title: The Consequences of Backing a Liberal Republican for President: Obama Administration Says We Can and Will Force Christians to Act Against Their Faith
Source: CNS News
URL Source: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/oba ... orce-christians-act-against-th
Published: Dec 29, 2012
Author: Terence P. Jeffrey
Post Date: 2012-12-29 23:09:16 by F.A. Hayek Fan
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Views: 182
Comments: 16

In a legal argument formally presented in federal court in the case of Hobby Lobby v. Kathleen Sebelius, the Obama administration is claiming that the First Amendment—which expressly denies the government the authority to prohibit the “free exercise” of religion—nonetheless allows it to force Christians to directly violate their religious beliefs even on a matter that involves the life and death of innocent human beings. …

The Obama administration is making a two-fold argument for why it can force Christians to act against their faith in complying with the regulation it has issued under the Obamacare law that requires virtually all health care plans to cover, without co-pay, sterilizations, contraceptives, and abortion-inducing drugs.

The first argument the administration makes against the owners of Hobby Lobby is that Americans lose their First Amendment right to freely exercise their religion when they form a corporation and engage in commerce. A person’s Christianity, the administration argues, cannot be carried out through activities he engages in through an incorporated business. … The second argument the administration makes to justify forcing Christians to act against their faith is more sweeping. Here the administration argues it can force a person to act against his religion so long as the coercion is done under the authority of a law that is neutral and generally applicable—in other words, as long as the law was not written specifically to persecute Christians as Christians, the government can use that law to persecute Christians.

“Hobby Lobby is a for-profit, secular employer, and a secular entity by definition does not exercise religion,” said Acting Assistant Attorney General Stuart Delery in a filing submitted in the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Oklahoma.

“Because Hobby Lobby is a secular employer, it is not entitled to the protections of the Free Exercise Clause or RFRA [the Religious Freedom Restoration Act],” Delery told the court on behalf of the administration. “This is because, although the First Amendment freedoms of speech and association are ‘right[s] enjoyed by religious and secular groups alike,’ the Free Exercise Clause ‘gives special solicitude to the rights of religious organizations.’”

In keeping with Delery’s argument, the Washington Post, as a corporation, can use its First Amendment-protected freedom of speech to write editorials in support of the Obama administration imposing its contraception mandate on businesses like Hobby Lobby. But the members of the family that created and owns Hobby Lobby, because they formed Hobby Lobby as a corporation, have no First Amendment freedom of religion that protects them from being forced by the government to act against their religious beliefs in providing abortion-inducing drugs.

The second argument the administration makes to justify forcing Christians to act against their faith is more sweeping. Here the administration argues it can force a person to act against his religion so long as the coercion is done under the authority of a law that is neutral and generally applicable—in other words, as long as the law was not written specifically to persecute Christians as Christians, the government can use that law to persecute Christians.

Hobby Lobby is a family business. David Green created it in his garage in Oklahoma City in 1972. He and his wife, Barbara, and their three children—Steve, Mart and Darsee Green Lett-- have grown the business to where it now operates 500 stores in 41 states. David Green is Hobby Lobby’s CEO; Steve Green is its president; Mart Green is vice CEO; and Darsee Lett is vice president. Mart Green is also CEO of the privately owned Mardel chain of Christian bookstores, which operates 35 stores in 7 states. Through Hobby Lobby, the Greens have created more than 13,000 jobs. Mardel has created 372 jobs.

The Greens, who are Evangelical Christians, do not suspend their religious beliefs while running their businesses. Instead, they strive to run them fully in accordance with their Christian beliefs. They are unanimous in stating that they have always “sought to run Hobby Lobby in harmony with God’s laws and in a manner which brings glory to God.” They do not have two sets of morals—one for when they are at church or at home and another for when they are working on their businesses. They have only one set of morals—that they strive to follow at work or any other activity. For example, they close their business on Sundays, so their employees can spend that day with their families, and they pay their full-time workers a minimum hourly wage of $13, which is far exceeds the federal minimum wage.

They also provide their employees with a generous self-insured health care plan, and they even operate an on-site, cost-free health clinic at their corporate headquarters. But, guided by their Christian faith, the Greens believe that human life begins at conception and that aborting on unborn life is wrong. In keeping with this, they do not cover in their employee health plan abortions, abortion-inducing drugs or IUDs that prevent implantation of an embryo.

Unlike Catholics, the Greens do not believe that contraception and sterilization are morally wrong.

In September, the Greens, Hobby Lobby and Mardel bookstores sued Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, Labor Secretary Hilda Solis, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and the departments of Health Human Service, Labor and Treasury. Their complaint said that the Obamacare contraception mandate violates their First Amendment right to the free exercise of religion because supporting abortion or counseling for abortion is contrary to their religious faith.

As the mandate now stands, the Greens must begin complying with it on Jan. 1. On Nov. 11, U.S. District Judge Joe Heaton refused to grant a preliminary injunction to stop the mandate from being enforced on the Greens while the court decided their case on its merits. In his ruling on the injunction, Judge Green determined that the Greens were not likely to establish they had a right to “free exercise” of religion while operating Hobby Lobby.

‘[T]he court concludes plaintiffs have not established a likelihood of success as to their constitutional claims,” said Judge Heaton. “The corporations lack free exercise rights subject to being violated and, as the challenged statutes/regulations are neutral and of

general applicability as contemplated by the constitutional standard, plaintiffs are unlikely to successfully establish a constitutional violation in any event.”

The Greens appealed their request for an injunction to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit. A panel of two appeals court judges refused their plea. They then appealed to Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor, who sits over that circuit, and she declined to reverse the lower courts and issue an injunction.

When Sotomayor ruled against a preliminary injunction on Thursday, the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, which is representing the Greens, issued a statement indicating that the Greens would not start complying with the mandate on Tuesday and that they would continue to pursue their case in federal court.

“Hobby Lobby will continue their appeal before the Tenth Circuit,” said Becket Fund General Counsel Kyle Duncan. “The Supreme Court merely decided not to get involved in the case at this time. It left open the possibility of review after their appeal is completed in the Tenth Circuit. The company will continue to provide health insurance to all qualified employees. To remain true to their faith, it is not their intention, as a company, to pay for abortion-inducing drugs.”

As the nation approaches the much publicized fiscal cliff, it also approaches a moral cliff: Will the Obama administration compel Christians to act against their faith? As of now, the answer seems plain: Starting Tuesday, it will.

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#1. To: All (#0)

Bwhahahahahahaha! Suck on that Republicans. You want to run a Massachusetts socialist for your presidential candidate? You get what you deserve mother fuckers! LOL!

I love it. Give it to them good and hard Obama.

Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown

I WITHDRAW MY CONSENT!
Any perceived compliance with unconstitutional “laws” or orders put forth by government employees is NOT recognition of their authority; it is simply the result of carefully calculated submission to an entity exhibiting superior firepower.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-12-29   23:11:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#0) (Edited)

Here's another laugh. The Jews they support so much support abortion by a whopping 86% - 11%.

http://anepigone.blogspot.com/2012/05/jews-and-abortion.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/15/crisis-pregnancy-group-re_n_877105.html

So AKA Stone and the rest of the evanginuts on LF, LP, and FR support baby murderers. The irony is delicious. Of course, real conservatives knew that Romney supports were baby murderers anyway.

Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown

I WITHDRAW MY CONSENT!
Any perceived compliance with unconstitutional “laws” or orders put forth by government employees is NOT recognition of their authority; it is simply the result of carefully calculated submission to an entity exhibiting superior firepower.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-12-29   23:17:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#0)

The second argument the administration makes to justify forcing Christians to act against their faith is more sweeping. Here the administration argues it can force a person to act against his religion so long as the coercion is done under the authority of a law that is neutral and generally applicable—in other words, as long as the law was not written specifically to persecute Christians as Christians, the government can use that law to persecute Christians.

Sounds like a "law" that should be met with righteous civil disobedience.

King Nebuchadnezzar built a statue of gold of himself, and commanded that everyone bow down and worship the golden image. Whoever did not bow down the image would be casted into burning furnace. Chaldean men informed the king that Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego did not serve the king's gods, nor did they bow down to the golden image. The king called the trio before him to give them a chance to bow to the golden image, and then proceeded to question if their god would be able to deliver them from the furnace. When they told him (to his face!) that not only would they not worship the golden image, but their God WOULD deliver them, and if He didn't they STILL were not going to bow to the golden imgage. The king became furious and commanded the furnace to be heated seven times hotter than usual. The king got his strongest men to bind the three up, fully clothed, and casted them into the furnace. The flame was so hot that it killed the king's men. Nebuchadnezzar was surprised when he saw not three but four figures in the fire, one of which he acknowledged looked the Son of God. The three men were not burned. He called Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego to him along with his counsel, and they saw that the men were not so much as singed, nor did they smell like smoke. Nebechadnezzar blessed the God of the three, and demanded that no one spoke against their God, because no other God could deliver in this way!

3rd chapter, book of Daniel

reflectionsinthewalk.blog...meshach-and-abednego.html


"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-12-29   23:37:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: James Deffenbach (#3)

The king became furious and commanded the furnace to be heated seven times hotter than usual. The king got his strongest men to bind the three up, fully clothed, and casted them into the furnace. The flame was so hot that it killed the king's men. Nebuchadnezzar was surprised when he saw not three but four figures in the fire, one of which he acknowledged looked the Son of God. The three men were not burned. He called Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego to him along with his counsel, and they saw that the men were not so much as singed, nor did they smell like smoke.

That's some powerful Juju. I think I want to see that tape.

“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele

“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb

“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm  posted on  2012-12-30   1:34:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#1)

Suck on that Republicans. You want to run a Massachusetts socialist for your presidential candidate? You get what you deserve mother fuckers! LOL!

I love it. Give it to them good and hard Obama.

Ok, I get your anger at the RINO infested GOP and at the phoney's running the RNC who picked at Dem Party Light Prez candidate like Romney.

But the fact of the matter is that this republic was settled and defended by those who were persecuted by government because of their religious beliefs. Ergo, that's why the separation of state and religion is a protected Constitutional principle - a very important principle as a matter of fact that speaks to the raison d'etre of our fair beleaguered nation.

Geez Louise - FAHF for all your anger at the faux GOP and its blind voters, can't you see past that and recognize that the KenyanInChief is attacking the very foundation of our country?

scrapper2  posted on  2012-12-30   3:44:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: F.A. Hayek Fan, 4 (#2)

Here's another laugh. The Jews they support so much support abortion by a whopping 86% - 11%.

I told Stone once if he wanted to experience the full flavor of Tel Aviv, he should move his family and business to the area surrounding Ocean Parkway, Brooklyn. Once there he could paint endless rows of apartments, while never once receiving a dime as the residents claim his work product sucked, even if it didn't. Given a few months of such abuse, and countless days spent in small claims court, he'd be out of business, but no doubt still excited to be living among the Chosen Ones.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-12-30   9:59:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: scrapper2 (#5) (Edited)

Geez Louise - FAHF for all your anger at the faux GOP and its blind voters, can't you see past that and recognize that the KenyanInChief is attacking the very foundation of our country?

And that would make them different than today's Republicrats how?

EDIT:

The KenyanInChief, the Republicrats and the supporters of both parties are walking hand-in-hand in the destruction of the foundation of this country. The only reason while the KenyanInChief has the ability to do what he is doing is because the House-controlled Republicrats voted to fund Obamacare. They have passed no legislation to reduce the harm of Obamacare. They have done NOTHING to stop the actions that Obama is set to take. Even if one makes the case that any legislation they passed would be voted down in the Senate or not signed by Obama, the very least they could do is make and attempt. But they don't. Why? Because they are marching lock-step with the KenyanInChief. They have the same goals. And so do AKA Stone and the rest of their followers.

Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown

I WITHDRAW MY CONSENT!
Any perceived compliance with unconstitutional “laws” or orders put forth by government employees is NOT recognition of their authority; it is simply the result of carefully calculated submission to an entity exhibiting superior firepower.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-12-30   10:03:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Jethro Tull (#6)

Stone is a traitor to this country, plain and simple. It's lucky he's just a low life nobody, for if he worked in government he'd likely be selling secrets to Israel.

Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown

I WITHDRAW MY CONSENT!
Any perceived compliance with unconstitutional “laws” or orders put forth by government employees is NOT recognition of their authority; it is simply the result of carefully calculated submission to an entity exhibiting superior firepower.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-12-30   10:29:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#8)

www.jewishvirtuallibrary....ce/US-Israel/jewvote.html

Oy vey....

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-12-30   10:54:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Hmmmmm (#4)

That's some powerful Juju. I think I want to see that tape.

It isn't on any tape (so far as I know anyway). It's in the Bible and presented as a righteous act of civil disobedience (there are many examples in the Bible).

Here is a page where you can find more if you are interested:

bible.cc/acts/5-29.htm


"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-12-30   11:04:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: James Deffenbach (#3)

Sounds like a "law" that should be met with righteous civil disobedience.

About time - fuck Obama-Nebuchadnezzar

Treason has conspired with Greed and colluded with Murderers to overthrow "OUR" country.

"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!

noone222  posted on  2012-12-30   11:10:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: All (#9)

In the presidential election of 1920, Debs (Socialist) received 38% of the Jewish vote. Chosen Ones my ass.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-12-30   11:12:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#0)

To believe that an artificial entity (government) has real authority to order support for murder of real living beings is ludicrous. I am underwhelmed by the complete forfeiture of human rights by non-thinking ignoramuses that actually have the "right to vote" ...

Treason has conspired with Greed and colluded with Murderers to overthrow "OUR" country.

"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!

noone222  posted on  2012-12-30   11:22:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#7)

SCOTUS has pretty much upheld Obamacare except for this aspect. What are the pubbies supposed to do at this point in the House without a Senate majority after SCOTUS's ruling? What's the point of taking a vote that they'd lose?

Look the GOP ( RINO neocon majority) are scumbags in their own right. I agree with you. But they are not "in lock step" on every issue with the Dems. There's not a war in the future the GOP wouldn't love to get us into. But Obamacare - socialized medicine- basically a domestic entitlement for the Dem Party deadbeat voters ( expanded Medicaid rolls) isn't in the GOP's voter blocks' interests. If the GOP had the votes in both houses, Obamacare would be legislated out of existence by the pubbies, imo.

scrapper2  posted on  2012-12-31   3:40:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: James Deffenbach (#10)

It isn't on any tape (so far as I know anyway).

Yes I remember the story from when I was a kid. I used to read it to my son because I liked to say the names Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. Somewhere along the way I lost the ability to believe the fairy tales really can come true.

“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele

“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb

“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm  posted on  2013-01-01   1:08:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Hmmmmm (#15)

Personally I don't believe it is a fairy tale. Since God created everything there is I guess he can do with it as he chooses and far be it from me to second guess him.


"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-01-01   1:13:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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