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Title: The Official Story Of The Sandy Hook School Shooting Is Riddled With Holes
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Published: Dec 31, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-12-31 11:41:43 by wudidiz
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#112. To: scrapper2, christine, GreyLmist, titorite, FormerLurker, RickyJ (#107)
You know, you guys might be on to something.
Deflection and over loading with minutiae, not to mention looney theories, which would immediately serve to discredit legitimate concerns about the convenient events that occurred within 6 months of each other @ Aurora and Sandy Hook...
Makes one wonder if there's some method to all of this extraneous load of ...
Maybe it's not only Shooonra ( so obvious) in 4um's midst - another actively misdirecting discussions to deem this a "kook" site.

What looney theories?
Do you even know what you're talking about?
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz posted on 2013-01-18 2:56:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#113. To: wudidiz (#112)
Do you even know what you're talking about?

You bet I do.

scrapper2 posted on 2013-01-18 2:59:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#114. To: scrapper2 (#107) (Edited)
Maybe it's not only Shooonra ( so obvious) in 4um's midst - another actively misdirecting discussions to deem this a "kook" site.

Actually, Shoonra has some valid questions here and there and apparently HAS come around to looking at inconvenient facts which don't agree with the "official story" concerning more than a few topics. I may be wrong, but that's the impression I get. At minimum she's honest about her views and beliefs.
People pick on her simply because she's Jewish and hasn't always been as open minded as some people would like. I've never seen her outright lie or act like a drama queen though, unlike those other two.
What it comes down to is that I'd trust her before I'd trust those other two, if push ever came to shove.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2013-01-18 3:00:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#115. To: wudidiz (#112)
What looney theories?

Do you believe that the Sandy Hook shootings didn't actually occur and that the cops never went to the school, kids never fled the school, and that it was all filmed somewhere other than Newtown CT?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2013-01-18 3:04:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#116. To: FormerLurker (#115)
Do you believe that the Sandy Hook shootings didn't actually occur and that the cops never went to the school, kids never fled the school, and that it was all filmed somewhere other than Newtown CT?

That is kinda what I believe... I... but what I really wanna know if any of the children that attended the school remember any of the alleged dead.
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titorite posted on 2013-01-18 5:48:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#117. To: scrapper2 (#108)
Perhaps your personal affections blind you.

I just dislike the little disinfo agent. true to form he is quick to attempt to shut down those theories he disapporoves of. Like george bush said, let us never tolerate outragous conspiracy theories... well former lurker is the enforcer of the rule. When their is a conspiracy theory he disapproves of he will be there to constantly derail the topic and mess with the author/posters and make a general nuisance of himself as best as he can muster.
So I suppose i might be a bit blinded by my personal bias.
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titorite posted on 2013-01-18 5:52:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#118. To: titorite (#117)
I just dislike the little disinfo agent.

Funny how a disinfo agent such as yourself calls others who see through your bullshit "disinfo agents".
I've posted factual contradictions and legitimate questions concerning this probable staged event, yet you attack me as if I'm saying it all happened exactly as the media portrays it.
Yeah, it all happened on Mars titor ite. Surprised you aren't jumping on THAT bandwagon.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2013-01-18 9:20:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#119. To: scrapper2 (#113)
You bet I do.

I bet you don't.
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz posted on 2013-01-18 9:23:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#120. To: titorite (#116)
That is kinda what I believe... I... but what I really wanna know if any of the children that attended the school remember any of the alleged dead.

Perhaps you should take a ride there and go ask them. Don't you think if none of those people were real there'd be SOMEBODY from that town posting such info on YouTube?
Don't you think SOMEONE from the town would say nothing happened, that no cops were called to the scene, and don't you think the State Police would quickly deny such a thing occured, and those who faked such an event would be quickly identified and delt with?
As usual, you ignore the very real evidence of a true conspiracy, and jump on the "EVERYONE in CONNECTICUT is lying" bandwagon, and imply that all of the news media, police, and actual victims are lying or are "actors".
You ignore the fact factions within our own government murdered 3000 people on the morning of 9/11/2001, and try to convince people that they'd somehow find it difficult to kill a relative handful of people in Newtown CT in order to push for "gun control".
Do you think the Aurora CO movie theater shootings never really happened either?
It's quite obvious to me and a few others that you and your girlfriend are doing your best to divert attention away from the REAL conspiracy here.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2013-01-18 9:28:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#121. To: FormerLurker, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#115)
Do you believe that the Sandy Hook shootings didn't actually occur and that the cops never went to the school, kids never fled the school, and that it was all filmed somewhere other than Newtown CT?

I believe the parents of the supposed victims are lying actors.
I haven't seen any evidence of dead children. Have you?
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz posted on 2013-01-18 9:31:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#122. To: FormerLurker (#120)
It's quite obvious to me and a few others that you

are a few units short of a full set of units.
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz posted on 2013-01-18 9:33:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#123. To: All, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#122)
Some Newtown residents say the school should be demolished and a memorial built on the property in honour of those killed Dec. 14. Others believe the school should be renovated and the areas where the killings occurred removed.
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz posted on 2013-01-18 9:36:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#124. To: All (#123)
any of you fuckin half-wits that think this wasn't staged watch this:
www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/83011813/
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz posted on 2013-01-18 9:48:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#125. To: wudidiz (#121)
So let me see. Nobody in Newtown is real, since if they were, they'd be screaming bloody murder how the parents aren't real people. And the kids aren't real, since if they were, they'd be telling everyone how nothing happened at their school.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2013-01-18 10:00:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#126. To: FormerLurker (#125)
Get those kids to tell you how there's no santa claus.
Show me a picture of Emily Parker with her "family" that wasn't photoshopped.
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz posted on 2013-01-18 10:11:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#127. To: All, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#126)
Get those kids to tell you how there's no santa claus.

Kids what don't believe in santa get NO presents.
;)
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz posted on 2013-01-18 10:14:42 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#128. To: All (#87) (Edited)
Post #87 | Video and Photographic Record + Analyses and Newtown Weather Reports
Post #89 | YouTube video there:
SANDY HOOK HOAX BLOWN TO PIECES - THE ACTORS, PUPPETS AND MOTIVES - GUN CONTROL AGENDA SCAM (OLD)

References bump. Edited for spacing.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-01-18 11:04:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#129. To: GreyLmist (#128)
Anyone who spends an hour and a half watching that and still thinks this event wasn't staged...
there's no sense discussing anything further with them imo...
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz posted on 2013-01-18 12:33:19 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#130. To: All (#128)
Post #87 | Video and Photographic Record + Analyses and Newtown Weather Reports

Post #67; pics and video posted by GreyLmist

The Parkers are at photo #14 of Post #67. Robbie Parker is the man in a blue T-shirt.
Little girl killed in Connecticut lived in NM - YouTube
Published on Dec 15, 2012 by KRQE

Little girl killed in Connecticut lived in NM
Comments at the site:
"This story states that she attended school in New Mexico, they must move around a lot-maybe not, the stories are changing so fast nobody can keep up or get any reliable info."
"The Ogden, Utah newspaper reported the Parker family had moved from Ogden to Newtown eight months prior to the massacre 12/14/12."
"He moved his family from Utah to Connecticut eight months ago after accepting a job as a physician's assistant in the newborn unit at Danbury Hospital.
By Chelsea J. Carter, CNN
cnn.com/2012/12/16/us/connecticut-emilie-parker/index.html"

Ogden, Utah lawyer, Jill Cottle-Garrett, is the alleged aunt of Emilie Parker:
Father remembers his last talk with daughter, Emilie Parker [1.75 min. WTNH video at left of article]
Updated: Sunday, 16 Dec 2012
Stephanie Simoni

"Emilie Allis Parker was the sweetest was the sweetest little girl I've ever known," Jill Cottle Garrett, the girl's aunt, said. [sic]
Parker revealed his final conversation with his young daughter.
"I'd actually been teaching her Portuguese and so our last conversation was in Portuguese, and she told me good morning and asked how I was doing and I said I was doing well. She said that she loved me and I gave her a kiss and I was out the door."

Sandy Hook - Jill Cottle Aunt Of Emilie Parker says Emilie has two big sisters - YouTube

Published on Jan 10, 2013 by JrStudi0s
Sandy Hook Aunt Of Emilie Parker Confused About her own nieces

Approx. 2 months before the alleged shooting:
2nd cyclist dies after crashing in LOTOJA race
By Paul Nelson
October 3rd, 2012

SALT LAKE CITY — A second man who crashed at this year's LOTOJA Classic Bike Race Sept. 9 has died. Family members are remembering him as a man who loved to compete but also loved to share everything he had with the community.
This was the ninth time retired dentist Douglas Cottle rode the LOTOJA Classic. His daughter, Jill Cottle-Garrett, believes another rider clipped his tire, throwing him off the bike. She says he crash-landed on his face.
"[He had] over 30 fractures in his face," she said. She says her father was sent to an elderly care facility after he was discharged from the hospital. [sic]
She also says he tried to stand, even though doctors said he wasn't ready to. During one of these attempts, she says her father fell and hit his head, sending him into a coma he wouldn't recover from.

LOTOJA - Wikipedia

The LoToJa Bicycle Classic is a 206-mile (332 km), one-day amateur bicycle road race from Logan, UT to Jackson Hole, WY, USA. It is usually held in September the first Saturday after Labor Day, and attracts national and International participants. LoToJa is one of the longest one-day road cycling races in the U.S, and is the longest one-day race sanctioned by USA Cycling, the sport's governing body based in Colorado Springs, CO. The race began in 1983 and will celebrate its 30th anniversary in 2012. In 1983 the race had nine participants. In 2011, it had over 1,500 riders.
LoToJa is pronounced “low-to-juh” by some and "la-TOE-juh" by others. It starts at Sunrise Cyclery in Logan, Utah and heads north into southeastern Idaho and winds across western Wyoming. The finish line is near the base of the Grand Teton at Jackson Hole Mountain Resort, one of America's top ski destinations.

Newtown, Connecticut - Wikipedia

Newtown Seal pic link

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-01-18 13:14:10 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#131. To: All (#130)
Father remembers his last talk with daughter, Emilie Parker [1.75 min. WTNH video at left of article]
"I'd actually been teaching her Portuguese and so our last conversation was in Portuguese, and she told me good morning and asked how I was doing and I said I was doing well. She said that she loved me and I gave her a kiss and I was out the door."

Minutes of carnage lead to lifetime of grief and anxiety in Newtown - CNN.com

In another Newtown house, 6-year-old Emilie Parker woke up to say goodbye to her father, Robbie, before he left for work at a local hospital. He had been teaching Portuguese to his daughter, and she practiced by saying "bom dia" (good morning) and asking how he was.
Emilie told her daddy she loved him and gave him a kiss. Then Robbie Parker dashed out the door.

Excerpts from Post #96:

On a sidenote, besides the Parker family of Newtown being connected to the Utah region you've directed us to, so is Ryan T. Murphy who is a "native of Newtown, Connecticut" (listed under the Notable people header at that link) and "attended Brigham Young University". "While a student at BYU Murphy served as an assistant to then BYU professor Mack Wilberg" and "has since March 2009 been the associate music director of the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, working with music director Mack Wilberg."
On another sidenote (since the alleged Sandy Hook shooting is being used to attack the 2nd Amendment like the Leftist version of the PNAC Neocon's "New Pearl Harbor" invocation soon before 9/11), I was watching a documentary recently about former CIA Director William Colby, iirc, that mentioned the Mormon Tabernacle Choir was being broadcast as Pearl Habor was bombed in December of 1941. It was interesting enough under the aforementioned circumstances, I thought, to make note of it here.

Bom dia, she said. Such a coincidence...and more over at 4um Title:
Israeli ‘witch hunt’ cripples freedom of speech and ICC

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-01-18 14:40:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#132. To: wudidiz (#129)
Anyone who spends an hour and a half watching that and still thinks this event wasn't staged...
there's no sense discussing anything further with them imo...

For those who haven't watched it yet, here's a highlight:
At 1:18:38 Alexis/Alexi Haller, alleged uncle of Noah Pozner - no accent but a slight one at 1:20:53 and 1:21:13. Alexi Haller with an accent at 1:22:23.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-01-18 15:00:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#133. To: All (#131)
On a sidenote, besides the Parker family of Newtown being connected to the Utah region you've directed us to, so is Ryan T. Murphy who is a "native of Newtown, Connecticut" (listed under the Notable people header at that link) and "attended Brigham Young University". "While a student at BYU Murphy served as an assistant to then BYU professor Mack Wilberg" and "has since March 2009 been the associate music director of the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, working with music director Mack Wilberg."
On another sidenote (since the alleged Sandy Hook shooting is being used to attack the 2nd Amendment like the Leftist version of the PNAC Neocon's "New Pearl Harbor" invocation soon before 9/11), I was watching a documentary recently about former CIA Director William Colby, iirc, that mentioned the Mormon Tabernacle Choir was being broadcast as Pearl Habor was bombed in December of 1941. It was interesting enough under the aforementioned circumstances, I thought, to make note of it here.

Utah - Wikipedia

Nickname(s): Beehive State
The Utah Territory was created with the Compromise of 1850

Newtown, Connecticut - Wikipedia

The Newtown Bee, the local weekly newspaper, has been serving the area since 1877, and has been owned and operated by the Smith family since 1881.

Wondering if that Smith family of Newtown is linked to this one, originally from New England:
Joseph Smith - Wikipedia

founder of the Latter Day Saint movement, the predominant branch of which is Mormonism. [Brigham Young] led them to the Utah Territory
Joseph Smith became interested in religion at about the age of twelve,[11 With his family, he also took part in religious folk magic,[14]

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-01-20 17:20:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#134. To: All (#130) (Edited)
Ogden, Utah lawyer, Jill Cottle-Garrett, is the alleged aunt of Emilie Parker
[sic]
Approx. 2 months before the alleged shooting:
2nd cyclist dies after crashing in LOTOJA race
By Paul Nelson
October 3rd, 2012

SALT LAKE CITY — A second man who crashed at this year's LOTOJA Classic Bike Race Sept. 9 has died. Family members are remembering him as a man who loved to compete but also loved to share everything he had with the community.
This was the ninth time retired dentist Douglas Cottle rode the LOTOJA Classic. His daughter, Jill Cottle-Garrett, believes another rider clipped his tire, throwing him off the bike. She says he crash-landed on his face.
"[He had] over 30 fractures in his face," she said. She says her father was sent to an elderly care facility after he was discharged from the hospital. [sic]
She also says he tried to stand, even though doctors said he wasn't ready to. During one of these attempts, she says her father fell and hit his head, sending him into a coma he wouldn't recover from.

LOTOJA - Wikipedia

Cross-referencing + notes for investigative research:
Post #41 of 4um Title: Cabal Having Difficulty Telling a Consistent Sandy Hook Story
Nancy Lanza's brother is Kingston Police Officer James Champion
Albert Champion (founder of Champion Spark Plug) | Champion (spark plug)
Was wondering if the mother's family is related to the family that Champion Spark Plug was named after.
Before founding Champion Spark Plug, Albert Champion was a French road bicycle racer, who won the 1899 Paris–Roubaix. [sic] In 1927 (aged 49), he collapsed and died of a heart attack while escorting his wife to the dance floor of the Hotel Meurice during a banquet in Paris. He was being honoured for making the spark plugs that helped Charles Lindbergh cross the Atlantic alone that year.
Edited for formatting + next to last sentence.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-01-21 7:19:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#135. To: GreyLmist (#134)
The Official Story Of The Sandy Hook School Shooting Is Riddled With Holes

The UN-Official Story Of The Sandy Hook School Shooting Is Riddled With Wide Eyed Speculation That Stretches The Imagination Far Past the Breaking Point Causing Ones Brain to Develop a Foggy Grey Mist.
We should all be livid. Stop acting like docile, mentally castrated pussies and grow a pair. It's time to get in their face. Why should we speak in hushed tones and act all polite when we are being metaphorically raped every day?
noone222 posted on 2013-01-21 7:35:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#136. To: All (#130) (Edited)
Little girl killed in Connecticut lived in NM - YouTube
Published on Dec 15, 2012 by KRQE

Family Speaks At Memorial Service For Emilie Parker

(KUTV) One of the twenty students killed in the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in Connecticut was 6-year-old Emilie Parker.
“This sucks, there is no reason for us to be here tonight,” Robbie Parker began his speech at a memorial service held for his daughter Emilie on Thursday at Ben Lomond High School in Ogden.
He, along with friends and family, wore green to the memorial service, the colors of Sandy Hook Elementary School, to show support to the other grieving families.
Although the Parkers live in Connecticut, they chose to return to Ogden to bury Emilie Parker. Ogden is where the family is from and Emilie was born.

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Cross-referencing 4um Title: 'Horrific' New Mexico shooting leaves 5 dead; investigators arrest 15-year- old
Edited for spacing.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-01-21 7:48:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#137. To: All (#136)
Family Speaks At Memorial Service For Emilie Parker [KUTV, Utah]

[Robbie Parker], along with friends and family, wore green to the memorial service, the colors of Sandy Hook Elementary School, to show support to the other grieving families.

Pic link

The smiling Soto family (below) on Dec 16, 2012 - Today Show interview, approx. 48 hrs. after the alleged shooting; wearing green because it was Vicki's favorite color. No mention of green being a Sandy Hook Elementary school-color:
todaynews.today.com article: Slain hero teacher's family: 'She loved those students more than anything' - with video at the site
By Jillian Eugenios, TODAY contributor
16 Dec 2012 9:23am, EST

The Soto family paid homage to Vicki with her favorite color -- wearing green scarves and handing out green ribbons to the community.

BEST NEWS Sandy Hook School Teacher Vicki Soto, Died a Hero Shielding Her Students From Gunman - YouTube

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-01-21 8:40:00 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#138. To: noone222 (#135)
You don't like my research notes and filing system?
The Champion family might not be as well known in your area as around here. I'm interested in checking the possibility that there might be a familial link there to Nancy Lanza, if you don't mind. Well, even if you do mind, I reckon.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-01-21 8:54:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#139. To: GreyLmist (#138)
I'm interested in checking the possibility that there might be a familial link there to Nancy Lanza, if you don't mind. Well, even if you do mind, I reckon.

There seems to be a ton of info swirling about without unfounded speculation added. If your research found indisputable facts that could be entered into the fray I believe it would be of value. Pure speculation adds nothing and may be counter-productive if it leads to furthering negative opinions relative to "conspiracy theorists" "tin foil hat wearing bitter clingers."
A cursory perusal of any metropolitan phone book would illustrate the zillions of people named Champion without any connection to Spark Plugs, butt plugs or hair plugs.
Jus sayin !
We should all be livid. Stop acting like docile, mentally castrated pussies and grow a pair. It's time to get in their face. Why should we speak in hushed tones and act all polite when we are being metaphorically raped every day?
noone222 posted on 2013-01-21 9:03:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#140. To: noone222 (#139) (Edited)
Are you having a bad hair day? I posted some of that info on the founder of Champion Spark Plug quite awhile ago in the thread I linked to above and it didn't irk you so much before. Maybe you didn't see it then but I've posted info since on Emilie Parker's grandfather, who was a bicycle racer too, and was reminded of Champion's bicycle racing again so I wanted to file the data in one post for my research convenience. If you're not interested even in the Charles Lindberg notation regarding Albert Champion and can't or don't want to help with researching the Champion family lineage, maybe someone else might read the post who can help out with info on that.
Edited to reword for accuracy + reference-link addition.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-01-21 9:35:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#141. To: All (#137)
BEST NEWS Sandy Hook School Teacher Vicki Soto, Died a Hero Shielding Her Students From Gunman - YouTube

Didn't know until I saw an infomercial yesterday on TV that this brand of coffee machine is what Vicki Soto's alleged brother was pitching in answer to the reporter's question at 1:23, although there are other examples of it more advanced:
How to use the Keurig Coffee Machine

Because of this alleged Soto family pic and others like it re: the Parker family, etc., regarding research of Sandy Hook as an occult hub, perhaps, it might arguably be considered that the alleged Soto brother's anecdote could possibly have been a "witch's brew" inside-joke. I'll just surmise instead that the Keurig system isn't very environmentally friendly.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-01-26 5:20:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#142. To: GreyLmist (#141)
I think the use of the keurig was more of an NLP "grounding" it is something the remaining struggling middle class can relate to in many of their homes. When watching that particular piece of propaganda that morning many folks will of already brewed themselves a keurig.
They want you into their "stories" They want to paint a picture of this a tragedy. Tough to do as they are all so smiley .... WTF are they all so smiley about?.... it darn sure runs counter to the convayence of sorrow.

Checkered jacket bitch is the professional there I think. Her intonations , her amount of time on the propaganda shot, her superior acting skills , I mean I dare say out of all of them hers was the best performance in this charade of villainy..
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titorite posted on 2013-01-26 5:56:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#143. To: All (#137) (Edited)
[Robbie Parker], along with friends and family, wore green to the memorial service, the colors of Sandy Hook Elementary School, to show support to the other grieving families.
The smiling Soto family [sic] approx. 48 hrs. after the alleged shooting; wearing green because it was Vicki's favorite color. No mention of green being a Sandy Hook Elementary school-color:

Research notes:
YouTube video hypothesis : The Sandy Hook Owl Code. [yellow + blue = green; letter frequencies of those colors re: 9/11]
Excerpt from an article at veteranstoday.com: Sandy Hook was “them” doing 9/11 “on the cheap.”
Excerpt from the Comments section of another article at veteranstoday.com: George [~~_H_~~ W] Bush's Grandfather Prescott Bush who was Senator of Conn[ecticut]
Edited for strikethrough and initial correction + 2nd line in the quoted section.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-01-26 6:02:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#144. To: All (#140)
researching the Champion family

References re: the Lanza family
Post # 26 of 4um Title: Sandy Hook massacre Official story spins out of control
Killer's family rooted in Merrimack Valley, NH » Merrimack Valley » EagleTribune.com, North Andover, MA
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-01-26 6:06:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#145. To: titorite (#142)
I think the use of the keurig was more of an NLP "grounding" it is something the remaining struggling middle class can relate to in many of their homes. When watching that particular piece of propaganda that morning many folks will of already brewed themselves a keurig.
They want you into their "stories" They want to paint a picture of this a tragedy.

Agreed.

They want to paint a picture of this a tragedy. Tough to do as they are all so smiley .... WTF are they all so smiley about?.... it darn sure runs counter to the convayence of sorrow.
Checkered jacket bitch is the professional there I think. Her intonations , her amount of time on the propaganda shot, her superior acting skills , I mean I dare say out of all of them hers was the best performance in this charade of villainy..

Bizzare, indeed, imo -- like so many other things are about the narrative.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-01-26 6:22:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#146. To: All (#144) (Edited)
Killer's family rooted in Merrimack Valley, NH » Merrimack Valley » EagleTribune.com, North Andover, MA

Noting for research:
SSDI Death Index Sandy Hook ‘Shooter’ Adam Lanza Died One Day Before School Massacre

The following data is available at GenealogyBank.com;

The SSDI database shows Adam Lanza to be expired on December 13, 2012, one day prior to the school shooting. Confirmation Status is listed as “Proven”. However the state of issue is New Hampshire.

Comment at the site: "New Hampshire is where the SSN was issued. Lanza was born in New Hampshire. They did not move to Newtown until ’98."
Another comment at the site:
http://bayimg.com/OAJMmAAEa
"This is from the master file. I paid 10.00 to look it up."

Edited to try and display that pic. View at the bayimg.com site.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-01-28 12:05:04 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#147. To: GreyLmist, Itistoolate (#146)
coinicidence?

"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz posted on 2013-01-31 13:42:35 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#148. To: GreyLmist (#146) (Edited)
This is a great discovery on that death certificate regarding Adam dying a day before the shooting incident in Sandy Hook. If this is genuine that he died the day before the shooting, then the next questions begs as to what was the real cause of his death?
Somebody seriously ought to submit this to those in Congress concerning yesterday's discussion on C-SPAN on gun control. Cause I'm really starting to suspect that the usual suspects are those in our government behind these shootings to create mass hysteria.
I'm just fed up and not listening to any more sob story accounts of shootings. I just change the channel. Too many shooting incidents which many lead up to coincidences that point to this clandestine government staging them. True, that some of these shootings may be isolated but too many have been related to each other and many of them have WAY too many holes in their stories for the people like myself to even have empathy for.
Eric Holder appeases Mexican gang members over the Southern border by aiding, abetting and covering up gun supplying and ammunitions to the international drug cartel mafias. And of course, he's the same asshole that wants to take away our guns. I'm not sick of guns... I'm sick of the lies we are being fed!

purplerose posted on 2013-01-31 14:13:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#149. To: wudidiz (#147)
coinicidence?

Coincidence as in maybe it's a different Adam P. Lanza? Seems unlikely to me.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-01-31 15:16:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#150. To: wudidiz (#147)
Thanks for posting that pic, btw. I couldn't get it to display downsized.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-01-31 15:19:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#151. To: purplerose (#148)
This is a great discovery on that death certificate regarding Adam dying a day before the shooting incident in Sandy Hook.

Hat tip to the Intelhub and posters there for that investigative info. I just clerically filed it here with an archived-article reference on the family's New Hampshire roots.

If this is genuine that he died the day before the shooting, then the next questions begs as to what was the real cause of his death?

Yes and also about the possible complicity of his alleged family members in the Sandy Hook scheme of things.

Somebody seriously ought to submit this to those in Congress concerning yesterday's discussion on C-SPAN on gun control. Cause I'm really starting to suspect that the usual suspects are those in our government behind these shootings to create mass hysteria.

I suspect that too and suspect Congress would ignore all evidence that is contrary to their tyrannical agendas.

I'm just fed up and not listening to any more sob story accounts of shootings. I just change the channel. Too many shooting incidents which many lead up to coincidences that point to this clandestine government staging them. True, that some of these shootings may be isolated but too many have been related to each other and many of them have WAY too many holes in their stories for the people like myself to even have empathy for.

I suspect much of what's called world history has been stage-managed hoaxings, gov-sponsored clandestinely and otherwise.

Eric Holder appeases Mexican gang members over the Southern border by aiding, abetting and covering up gun supplying and ammunitions to the international drug cartel mafias. And of course, he's the same asshole that wants to take away our guns. I'm not sick of guns... I'm sick of the lies we are being fed!

Reconstituted citizen State Militias would be a powerful Constitutional antidote for their lies.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-01-31 16:17:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#152. To: GreyLmist (#149)
Coincidence as in maybe it's a different Adam P. Lanza?

No. Coincidence as in heavy sarcasm.
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz posted on 2013-01-31 16:52:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

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