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Title: The Official Story Of The Sandy Hook School Shooting Is Riddled With Holes
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URL Source: http://www.sandyhookhoax.com/
Published: Dec 31, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-12-31 11:41:43 by wudidiz
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#25. To: GreyLmist, wudidiz (#23)

wudidiz didn't ask for a video of gunfire at the school reported by the media, FL

ANY "reports of gunfire" will come from the media, since I doubt you personally know people who live in that town and can interview them yourself.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-01-02   10:35:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: GreyLmist (#23)

However, he is one of the many examples of children and adults [Edit to add: allegedly outdoors] in the area that day with no coat/jacket/sweater/sweatshirt on -- just a thin, summery shirt.

You REALLY love to jump to odd conclusions with the flimsiest of "evidence". That kid, if it's the one I saw in the video you refer to, is wearing what could possibly be a winter/fall longsleeve double shirt. It's impossible to tell exactly since you can only see the top inch or two of his shirt, the rest of it was out of frame.

I wouldn't base my case upon it if I were trying to use it as evidence in court.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-01-02   10:39:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: FormerLurker, GreyLmist (#25)

wudidiz didn't ask for a video of gunfire at the school reported by the media, FL

ANY "reports of gunfire" will come from the media, since I doubt you personally know people who live in that town and can interview them yourself.

You showed a vid with a girl saying she heard 7 loud booms. Could have been anything. You'd think she would have heard hundreds, don't you? Far from convincing anyway. Why isn't the media given the videos from the security cameras?


"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz  posted on  2013-01-02   13:17:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: wudidiz (#27)

Why isn't the media given the videos from the security cameras?

Possibly the same reason the FBI isn't releasing the Pentagon security videos from 9/11.

Unlike 9/11 Sandy Hook IS still an active investigation, but if they WANTED to show it, they damn well could and would, IF it supported the "lone gunman" theory, or in the case of 9/11, the "Flight 77 hit the Pentagon" theory.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-01-02   13:38:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: wudidiz (#27) (Edited)

In terms of gunshots wud, if there are 26 dead people with rifle wounds, I'd say there was gunfire.

WHO shot those 26 people is what the question is, especially being the murder weapon was locked in the trunk of the "lone nut's car", oh wait, it was in some drug dealer's car, or who knows where really.

Why there is so much confusion as to the facts in this case is ALSO a matter of question. Thing is, it smells of covert black op due to the conflicting reports, but it doesn't make any sense that the ENTIRE EVENT never happened.

The people behind such events have NO problem at all killing innocent people, as can be seen from past and current events.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-01-02   13:43:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: GreyLmist, wudidiz (#24)

Family photo of slain teacher Vicki Soto.

Saw a video on the occult issues that commented on the "oto" part of her last name possibly indicating the O.T.O. initials for Ordo Templi Orientis/Order of the Temple of the East.

Oh ya....Aleister Crowley and the OTO
9-11 numbers were his from his own writings....ie Airliner #'s...building floors at WTC

People who are open to gov false flag need to take the next step if they are hesitant towards the Occult [The Hidden]
The Great Seal of the United States on the US Dollar is cryptic/encoded as per nations destiny and the Path
Its no accident that Apollo** is prominent in NASA and especially the Moon [symbolic of Dominion,..dominion of the Night....the Light of Darkness]
Adolf Hitler and his occult cronies used the Zeus temple brought from ancient Pergamum/Pergama.
Obama gave a speech in Berlin in front of this.
and then had a Temple layout background for his Democratic party win.
Americans think the Great Seal speaks a message of the nations greatness and the prosperity they will all share in
They are wrong....the truth is.....this Occult points back to Zeus and Apollo
This is the unfinished work...
Washington DC is of course steeped in the Occult as per street layout,symbols,statues and numbers/lat/longitude.
The two seals interlaced.....there are 2 other interlace positions.

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2013-01-02   15:37:43 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: GreyLmist (#24)

Saw a video on the occult issues that commented on the "oto" part of her last name possibly indicating the O.T.O. initials for Ordo Templi Orientis/Order of the Temple of the East.

Hmmm. Did you know that the name Smith ends with "ith", which could mean "In Thy Hell", and that the first two letters, "Sm", could mean "Sadistic Murderer"?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-01-02   15:43:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: GreyLmist, FormerLurker, Parrot on Speed Dial (#31)

Hmmm. Did you know that the name Smith ends with "ith", which could mean "In Thy Hell", and that the first two letters, "Sm", could mean "Sadistic Murderer"?

GreyLmist and Parrot,

I do tend to agree with FL's tongue-in-cheek observation. Please note that FL and I rarely agree on anything.

While referencing the Occult with friends after knocking back several brewskies might evoke considerable interest in that setting, introducing the Occult to sober people as support for a theory that there's more than meets the eye regarding 9-11, Sandy Hook massacre, etc will tend to throw dust and damage the credibility of your original supposition.

Just saying....

scrapper2  posted on  2013-01-02   16:07:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: scrapper2 (#32)

Please note that FL and I rarely agree on anything

Really? I thought we were on the same page on most topics. Guess I missed the memo... :)


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-01-02   16:20:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: FormerLurker (#33)

Weren't you the guy who argued with me non-stop for 30 days and 30 nights a few years ago about some forgettable issue? I think christine finally had to intervene and close the thread because it was so nauseatingly drawn out - primarily by you.

And there have been other topics that have came up since - Obamacare related I seem to recall - wherein you and I have held diametrically opposed positions.

scrapper2  posted on  2013-01-02   16:55:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: scrapper2 (#34)

Weren't you the guy who argued with me non-stop for 30 days and 30 nights a few years ago about some forgettable issue? I think christine finally had to intervene and close the thread because it was so nauseatingly drawn out - primarily by you.

And there have been other topics that have came up since - Obamacare related I seem to recall - wherein you and I have held diametrically opposed positions.

I think you're confusing me with someone else, unless you're in favor of Obamacare or something.

I don't recall ever getting into any "argument" over Obamacare with anyone, here on the forum or in the real world.

If you look over our posting history back and forth, there is nothing there which matches what you say, and christine never had to get involved with anything between us. Like I said, you probably have me confused with someone else, but jeez, don't be so quick to hurl accusations at someone who's not even the person you have a problem with.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-01-02   17:27:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: FormerLurker (#35)

you probably have me confused with someone else, but jeez, don't be so quick to hurl accusations at someone who's not even the person you have a problem with.

1. you are correct that I have you confused with someone else, if you checked back and did not come across any lengthy mind numbing thread with me and you have never supported Obamacare - sorry!

2. why so touchy? In my previous post, I ASKED if you were the guy who blah, blah...I did not "hurl accusations" - sheesh - take a chill pill, eh?

scrapper2  posted on  2013-01-02   18:06:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: scrapper2 (#36)

2. why so touchy? In my previous post, I ASKED if you were the guy who blah, blah...I did not "hurl accusations" - sheesh - take a chill pill, eh?

Huh? You're the one who just said "Weren't you the guy who argued with me non- stop for 30 days and 30 nights a few years ago about some forgettable issue? I think christine finally had to intervene and close the thread because it was so nauseatingly drawn out - primarily by you. "

You didn't say "christine finally had to intervene and close the thread because it was so nauseatingly drawn out - primarily by whoever that guy was. ", you said "primarily by you. ".

So yeah, what do expect me to say, thank you sir may I have another?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-01-02   18:11:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: FormerLurker (#37)

Oh brother the way this thread dialogue between you and me is starting to snowball over nothing important, it all seems so jarringly familiar. Just sayin'....

Bye.

scrapper2  posted on  2013-01-02   18:17:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: scrapper2 (#38) (Edited)

Oh brother the way this thread dialogue between you and me is starting to snowball over nothing important, it all seems so jarringly familiar

Have you ever considered the possibility that whoever it was you argued with "for 30 days and nights" might not have been the one at fault, since you appear to be quick on the trigger?

Hey, aren't you the guy who said George W Bush was one of our finest presidents, and that 9/11 happened just like he said it did?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-01-02   18:23:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: scrapper2, FormerLurker, Parrot on Speed Dial, wudidiz (#32) (Edited)

FormerLurker: Hmmm. Did you know that the name Smith ends with "ith", which could mean "In Thy Hell", and that the first two letters, "Sm", could mean "Sadistic Murderer"?

scrapper2: GreyLmist and Parrot,

I do tend to agree with FL's tongue-in-cheek observation. Please note that FL and I rarely agree on anything.

While referencing the Occult with friends after knocking back several brewskies might evoke considerable interest in that setting, introducing the Occult to sober people as support for a theory that there's more than meets the eye regarding 9-11, Sandy Hook massacre, etc will tend to throw dust and damage the credibility of your original supposition.

Just saying....

scrapper, if you entered this thread at the point of my one sentence reply at Post #24 on what FL had presented and innocuously dubbed as a family-photo of Vicki Soto, I can understand why you mistakenly got the impression, which you apparently did, that I had "drunkenly" introduced the occult angle here and with no basis. What you've described as FL's "tongue-in-cheek observation" (as if a credible rebuttal to my making overmuch, seemingly, about nothing) is actually a backhanded-strawman swipe from FL -- for no apparent reason that I can fathom other than to cause confusion and conflict over what was, until then, simply a conversationally supportive remark (from my video observations) on the occult angle that FL had enlarged upon here after Newtown's Masonic-org medical care complex was noted at Post #1.

Beginning at Post #2, FL presented a 7.5 minute video of Newtown as a major hub of Satanism and then presented the horned hand-gestured Soto family-photo at Post #3, which I made a short comment on 21 posts later. In the meantime, FL had said at Post #6 (as if unaware of the redundant circularity of their opinion) that they were still not convinced the Sandy Hook parents are actors but COULD be Satanists, when their own 7.5 minute video at Post #2 had described Satanists precisely as a network of actors pretending in society that they aren't such. Rather than kick up dust argumentatively by asking FL if they had even watched their own video, I tried to simply show a corroborative example of other investigative research along the very same lines that FL had themself injected into the discussion -- not me or Parrot on Speed Dial Parrot with speed dial either; who had offered their insight-confirmations on the occult issue to me and wudidiz and not to dispute FL or go off-topic of what FL had turned attentions to in this subject multiple times.

And now, here we are in a mixed up mess at the bottom of FL's slippery slope as if they had nothing at all to do with any of that -- just us other "woo-hoos" or whatever -- and you claiming agreement with FL's sarcastic swing. Please try to not be misused so again for their confrontational manuevers, scrapper. Just sayin' and good luck on that.

Edited paragraph 1 + formatting, punctuation and spelling.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-01-02   20:56:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Parrot with speed dial (#40)

Ping to Post #40. Had misspelled your name in my post and the To: address line. Sorry about that.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-01-02   21:28:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: GreyLmist (#40)

What it comes down to GL is that if you see the devil everywhere to the point you see something sinister about a person's name just because it ends with the letters "oto", not only are you grasping at straws, but you are jumping to absurdities which are so far from being meaningful observations as to deserve a "sarcastic swipe" across the head.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-01-02   21:44:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: FormerLurker, GreyLmist (#42)

There's nothing wrong with looking at All the data, leaving no rock unturned, to be meticulously thorough. Especially if there aren't really any conclusions being drawn.

Maybe it's you who's jumping to conclusions here, FL. You seem to be quick to play the devil's advocate and incline to the offcial story. Using news reports as evidence and attacking any noncomformist idea like one of those dogs that barks and lunges at everyone for no apparent reason. Take a chill pill indeed. You're not obliged to determine the outcome of any investigation.


"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz  posted on  2013-01-02   22:02:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: wudidiz (#43) (Edited)

Like I said to GL, wudidz, watch out for people whose last name is Smith, they might be satanic murderers, or is it sadistic murderers. Either way, they are in thy hell.

It's about as logical as trying to say the victim, Victoria Soto, might be satanic because her last name ends with oto.

It's one thing to notice the devil sign coming from people in the town of Newtown CT, including kids, but a totally different thing to suspect satanic involvement because of a common Mexican name.

You two are experts in jumping to conclusions that defy logic or reason.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-01-02   22:07:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: wudidiz, GreyLmist (#43)

So wud, do you agree with GL that a slender yet relatively shapely 27 year old victim, Victoria Soto, is the same person as a somewhat chubby 15 year old girl from the opposite end of the country who survived a mall shooting in Oregon?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-01-02   22:12:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: FormerLurker (#45)

My first guess is no.


"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz  posted on  2013-01-02   22:13:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: wudidiz (#46)

Well at least you didn't jump on THAT bandwagon. Thus far, I think GL is the only one driving that one.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-01-02   22:15:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: FormerLurker (#47)

Do you think Gene Rosen is an actor?


"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz  posted on  2013-01-02   22:22:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: wudidiz (#48)

Do you think Gene Rosen is an actor?

I would say the odds of Newtown residents being professional actors is between slim and none.

I would also say, however, that some of them are acting quite bizarrely. There are several possibilities as to WHY they are acting that way, ranging from something in the water to satanic involvement.

Who knows exactly what the cause is, but something isn't right about that place. I've experienced first hand strange behavior of the locals in some parts of New York, and I did actually find that there WAS satanic activity in those towns.

The depth of how far it goes is anyone's guess, but Gerarld Rivera had a pretty interesting series of investigative reports on the matter.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-01-02   22:30:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: FormerLurker, GreyLmist (#42)

What it comes down to GL is that if you see the devil everywhere to the point you see something sinister about a person's name just because it ends with the letters "oto", not only are you grasping at straws, but you are jumping to absurdities which are so far from being meaningful observations as to deserve a "sarcastic swipe" across the head

Its the fact that most Americans are so dumbed down.....that they can't see the Occult flung in their faces daily.
So dumbed down,.....they believe the Mars Curiosity Rover....is on Mars.
The level of Illusion and magic is just over the top of late....but then....it was 2012....a very Occult numbered year....and the kickoff to big things,...just as 2001 was with false flag 9-11.
Those reading along who are wondering about Mars Curiosity Rover,....drop by
Cluesforum.....there you will find scientific data showing the impossibility of this supposed mission and its bullet descent/bottle rocket/cable landing.
Its CGI....cluesforum knocks it outta the park.
Those of us who understood the Apollo Moon missions were faked.....know they will go to the well again and again....and get their funding...and toy with the world....in world wide deception.
This is part of the rite of the Occult....crafting the deception and pulling it off.
We find this continually in news cycle.....
The invasion of Libya had fake sets in Qatar which Al Jazerra duped Islam with.
The attack on Syria finds the same game of illusion and magic [words]..used to achieve.
except...all that is not going so well for the Globalists.
Even with Russia hardly supporting Assad regime.....that Army is winning.
of course....that may change soon...as the machine has many impatient movers demanding a different outcome.
GL's not wrong to consider Conspiracy or the Occult in the mix of things.

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2013-01-02   22:37:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Parrot with speed dial (#50)

GL's not wrong to consider Conspiracy or the Occult in the mix of things.

You appear to be quick to jump to conclusions yourself there Parrot. Again, I didn't say there was no occult involvement, but the fact that a person's name ends with "oto" is proof of nothing.

Soto is a common Mexican name, just like Smith is a common British name, hence my attempt at humor with the analysis of the name Smith.

Get it?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-01-02   22:42:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: FormerLurker (#42)

What it comes down to GL is that if you see the devil everywhere to the point you see something sinister about a person's name just because it ends with the letters "oto", not only are you grasping at straws, but you are jumping to absurdities which are so far from being meaningful observations as to deserve a "sarcastic swipe" across the head.

It is you who imagines something sinister almost everywhere, to the point of arguing like a control freak "puppetmaster" bent on recklessly smashing input contributions that you deem unapproved -- and for no logical reason, imo, other than to smite in spite. It is you who are grasping at absurdity straws and jumping strangely to transmute accusingly even a benevolent, corroborative comment made conversationally (on a topic you yourself had inserted here) into something warranting enmity and a targeted strike from you. Evidently (and typically again of you), even my short, one sentence comment wasn't really comprehensively read by you but you've misread much into it, as usual. FYI: I'm not the analyst who interpreted the "oto" letters as a possible Satanic signal in the name of a possibly fictitious character or Crisis Actor. I merely relayed, as a gesture of support, an abbreviated summary on their video-assessment of it to you in response to the horned hand-gesture signal-issues that you had presented as a meaningfully relevant observation in this discussion. I'm not clear on why you've arbitrarily drawn the line of meaningful occult observation at your input only but go ahead and stomp and swipe like an agitated ogre over it, if you insist on manifesting so. I'll just laugh at your shows of force.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-01-02   23:05:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: FormerLurker (#51)

You appear to be quick to jump to conclusions yourself there Parrot. Again, I didn't say there was no occult involvement, but the fact that a person's name ends with "oto" is proof of nothing.

Soto is a common Mexican name, just like Smith is a common British name, hence my attempt at humor with the analysis of the name Smith.

Get it?

Ya....your working to keep people from exploring this trail

that gives me pause.

Tell us.....were the Apollo missions real [ie...they landed men on the moon],...or was that faked?
You appear willing to admit deceptions occurred on 9-11...but do ninny over certain details.

You maybe need* to go and read the verses pulled from Virgil's work and the Sibylline Oracles ..so as to grasp why those phrases were used in the making of the Great Seal of the United States.
and then consider why that was transposed on the US Dollar.

Start looking at the Occult like it was a machine....which has buttons which get pushed and then outcomes occur.

Satanism exists....but it is not**...whats operating the levers of the machine.
At times....Satanism or Saturn Cult is convenient deception which the powers do not mind you chasing down the rabbit hole with.

Accept that Illusion and magic occur....so that a desired outcome can be achieved.

Look for it.....its part of the game[competition] and the rite,...which they openly show.

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2013-01-02   23:17:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Parrot with speed dial (#53)

Ya....your working to keep people from exploring this trail

Uh huh. I have a new lead for you. It was actually Hillary Clinton who shot all those kids, that's why she's in the hospital. You can go ahead and make a Youtube video describing the details and claim all the credit for yourself.

I really don't know what the fuck you and your breathren here have been smoking, but it must be some REALLY good shit.

If you paid attention at all to anything I've said here, I'M the one who raised the topic of the satanic symbology in certain photos of the Sandy Hood families and victims.

Is it that it's a bit too close to the truth, and you feel a need to discredit me with your rants and accusations?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-01-03   0:53:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: FormerLurker (#39)

Hey, aren't you the guy who said George W Bush was one of our finest presidents, and that 9/11 happened just like he said it did?

You are a certifiable jerk. And yes, now that I think about it longer, your argumentative obnoxious style reminds me of the kook who debated me for 30 days and 30 nights over nothing. Kook!

scrapper2  posted on  2013-01-03   1:36:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: FormerLurker (#47)

Well at least you didn't jump on THAT bandwagon. Thus far, I think GL is the only one driving that one.

It's not a bandwagon. It's my investigative and comparative research of possible Crisis Actors and fictional characters in official terror-storylines, as well as suspect covert-agents of foreign powers regarding PsyOps/BlackOps against our nation; such as alleged mall and school shootings, 9/11, etc. For any readers confused by your obscurations of that here, am cross-referencing this 4um thread, titled: "BREAKING NEWS: CT School Shooter Killer Link To LIBOR SCANDAL" -- with emphasis on Posts #11, #13, #15, #17 and #21.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-01-03   1:42:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: FormerLurker (#26) (Edited)

Me: However, he is one of the many examples of children and adults [Edit to add: allegedly outdoors] in the area that day with no coat/jacket/sweater/sweatshirt on -- just a thin, summery shirt.

You: That kid, if it's the one I saw in the video you refer to, is wearing what could possibly be a winter/fall longsleeve double shirt. It's impossible to tell exactly since you can only see the top inch or two of his shirt, the rest of it was out of frame.

I wouldn't base my case upon it if I were trying to use it as evidence in court.

It looks like an ordinary, lightweight shirt to me (and he gave more than one interview that day -- at a van in one and the other not -- if you think that view of his shirt is questionable) but I haven't based my weather-attire case on just that. As I said, he's one of many such examples -- of children and adults, a few even wearing short-sleeve summery shirts. You might not have seen the videos and pics showing that or noticed it, if you did see them, but one of the more frequently posted pics that I think you probably have seen (which is one of the strangest photos, imo, of the supposed aftermath) shows the children being marched outdoors in single-file with their hands on the shoulders of the child in front of them. Unlike the children, the two offical-looking adults are dressed warmly but the children are not. Stranger still, those children are being led outdoors in a convenient targeting-formation like ducks in a shooting- gallery row when two other suspects were apprehended outside of the school and nearby it that day. Could have been others roundabout in the area, for all those "guardian officials" knew for sure. Let's not spar about all of that, though. The main reason I'm posting a reply here now is to cite additional points of consideration about the aforementioned-boy and his family, possibly relevant to my research on rings of PsyOp/BlackOp covert-agents of foreign powers here.

In one of his interviews, his mother is interviewed too, with her first and last name reported (last name: Nikitchyuk) and his reported name as "Bear" -- perhaps in reference to Russia/The Bear. He's sometimes reported as a third grader and sometimes as a fourth grader but is described as a first grader at a photo in the February 11, 2011 issue of photos.newtownbee.com so, unless he skipped a grade, he's probably a third grader. This is the caption there:

Sandy Hook School first grader Bear Nikitchyuk created a “dragon that bites” after learning about mythological animals in Chinese culture. (Hallabeck photo)

His father, Andrei/Andre Nikitchyuk, authored this New York Daily News article posted there on December 17, 2012 excerpted below:

BREAKING THE SILENCE! Father of surviving Sandy Hook student admits turning a blind eye to gun violence can no longer be an option

Pic: Andre Nikitchyuk, with son Bear, 8, a third-grader at Sandy Hook Elementary who escaped harm when a teacher pulled him into a room as the shooting began.

My son, a third-grader nick-named “Bear,” went to school on Friday, like any normal day. At school that day, he was the classroom helper with another child and had the job of walking the attendance sheet to the principal’s office.

He describes his experience as hearing gunshots and “seeing” bullets come by them, turning toward them to see what’s going on, but — thankfully — smoke clouded his view.

Our kids were so lucky. A heroic teacher, Abbey Clements, whom we can never sufficiently thank, saw them in the hallway and pulled him into her classroom.

Not only is he said to have been in a position to act as a witness by being selectively sent into the hall when most of the children would be in classrooms, he is the only child who claims at all to have seen bullets flying, maybe -- although smoke clouded his view...and they didn't sound like gunshots but someone kicking a door...and he didn't actually see any gun(s) fired...says he saw smoke and smelled smoke...then a teacher pulled him into her classroom. Moreover, his father with a Russian sounding last name (like the alleged Clackamas/Oregon 15 year-old survivor and her brother) is gunning against our 2nd Amendment, you could say metaphorically. Ergo, I'm going to cross-reference their rather suspicious family (as I see it) with the data compiled in another thread, starting at Post #11 there [Edit to add: and noted above in this thread at Post #56], on the issue of possible and known covert-agents of foreign powers moving in America as enemies of our Republic.

Edited also the Post number linked in the last sentence of the last paragraph.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-01-03   21:35:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: GreyLmist, scrapper2 (#52) (Edited)

It is you who imagines something sinister almost everywhere, to the point of arguing like a control freak "puppetmaster" bent on recklessly smashing input contributions that you deem unapproved

Just as in your little circle of pals, you are guilty of projecting your own faults onto others, specifically, those who disagree with you and/or call you on your far fetched schemes.

To see something sinister in a common name is beyond rational. I doubt you would make those claims to people in real life as they may well view you as certifiably insane.

Oh boo hoo hoo, I told you that you were off the deep end because you tried to claim Victoria Soto was satanic JUST BECAUSE the three letters of her name ends with "oto".

That I tried to inject a bit of humor rubs you the wrong way, and now I'm all sorts of bad things.

Now I should get ready for your fellow gang of misfits to come tell me I'm an asshole, a jerk, and all sorts of other things because I popped your little balloon.

You folks are all very quick to pounce on others over perceived wrongs, but cry like little drama queens when someone tries to speak to you as if you were actually adults.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-01-03   22:25:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: scrapper2 (#55)

You are a certifiable jerk. And yes, now that I think about it longer, your argumentative obnoxious style reminds me of the kook who debated me for 30 days and 30 nights over nothing. Kook!

For one, dig up that thread if it exists and post a link. For two, who are you, BeAChooser? Did you create the scrapper2 handle just to have a sleeper account?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-01-03   22:28:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: FormerLurker (#58) (Edited)

That post was made yesterday, almost 24 hours ago, in response to your whirlwind wardances in-process then over a short, conversational sentence about somebody else's interpretation of the 3 "oto" letters, as well as a 3 word file-summary comment posted by me, "Noting a resemblance". Since then, I thought we had reached an amicable understanding and had hoped, if I replied to your post here on the issues of the boy, Bear, and his family that you would have the presence of mind to remember that prior conflict was over with -- or so I thought but, apparently, I was wrong about you having that much rationality and composure. Oh, well. I think that's your problem, not mine.

Edited sentence 1 + for grammar and punctuation.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-01-03   23:14:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: GreyLmist (#60)

I just read your comment today, must have missed it yesterday. I don't spend all my time on forums, I have more pressing matters to attend to.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-01-04   1:46:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: FormerLurker (#61) (Edited)

I just read your comment today, must have missed it yesterday. I don't spend all my time on forums, I have more pressing matters to attend to.

Ok, then. I apologize for the curt reply but would like to suggest a quick check of the posting-date stamp logs before dashing off an unnecessarily overheated message. While I'm here again, am using this time to list some video examples for the record that I've noticed of children and adults outside that day in shirts and no coat/jacket/sweater/sweatshirt -- a number of them even in short sleeve, summery shirts. View at the YouTube sites:

At least 27 dead, including 18 children, in Connecticut school shooting - YouTube
At 0:21 children walking in a line with no coat
Girl in no coat and adult female in short sleeve summer shirt at 1:24
Girl in short sleeves at 1:31 and man at 2:06 in white shirt

Connecticut Shooting: Parents React Dec 14th, 2012
At 0:44 girl in white shirt
At 2:20 woman in short sleeve summer shirt

Connecticut Shooting Sandy Hook Elementary Teachers' Reactions to Gunshots - ABC News - YouTube
At 2:08 female in white shirt
At 2:23 and 2:26 children in short sleeve shirts

US school shooting: Children tell of terror
At 0:22 boy in green shirt with scarf but no coat; 0:36 girl in white shirt
At 1:10-1:20 several with no coat, including a baby boy in green shirt

Connecticut Shooting Sandy Hook Elementary Teachers' Reactions to Gunshots - ABC News - YouTube
Baby in green shirt with no coat at 1:21; also seen in the previous video and the one below
Man in background wearing short sleeve summer shirt at 1:52

Sandy Hook Massacre Exposed? (With Evidence) 1/2
At 12:17 shirt sleeves, including baby boy in green shirt

Edited for video notations, time-stamp markers and sequence order. Also to add this child in no coat pic example not seen in those videos:

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-01-04   4:52:17 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: GreyLmist (#62) (Edited)

All the plates are nice and neatly covered... That ford is very dusty.

That has to be the most awkward way to run I have ever seen....

I would have to shun the stupidity and run for my life proper.

Love how that cop is too weak to pick up a small 50 pound girl and RUN!!!.. nope... Not these actors.

___FIRE

titorite  posted on  2013-01-04   6:02:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: titorite (#63)

Astute observations, titorite. Thanks for your analysis of the pic.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-01-04   6:10:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: GreyLmist, 4um, *The Pending Gun Grab* (#62)

Grey, your #62 is a terrific breakdown of the many examples of the inconsistencies related to Sandy Hook.

Take a close look at the picture you end your post with. It's clearly staged. When one is running from an active gunman, they run. Now, look at the feet of the female in the blue top. If she's running she takes the smallest steps I've ever seen, the same applies for all of them. Also, the cop involved wouldn't be holding hands and running in a line along with the civilians. I'd think his training would be to place those folks in front of him (he has a bullet proof vest on for crying out loud) and shield them as they ran.

This pic is a major FAIL.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-01-04   9:52:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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