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Title: The Official Story Of The Sandy Hook School Shooting Is Riddled With Holes
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URL Source: http://www.sandyhookhoax.com/
Published: Dec 31, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-12-31 11:41:43 by wudidiz
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#149. To: wudidiz (#147)
coinicidence?

Coincidence as in maybe it's a different Adam P. Lanza? Seems unlikely to me.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-01-31 15:16:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#150. To: wudidiz (#147)
Thanks for posting that pic, btw. I couldn't get it to display downsized.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-01-31 15:19:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#151. To: purplerose (#148)
This is a great discovery on that death certificate regarding Adam dying a day before the shooting incident in Sandy Hook.

Hat tip to the Intelhub and posters there for that investigative info. I just clerically filed it here with an archived-article reference on the family's New Hampshire roots.

If this is genuine that he died the day before the shooting, then the next questions begs as to what was the real cause of his death?

Yes and also about the possible complicity of his alleged family members in the Sandy Hook scheme of things.

Somebody seriously ought to submit this to those in Congress concerning yesterday's discussion on C-SPAN on gun control. Cause I'm really starting to suspect that the usual suspects are those in our government behind these shootings to create mass hysteria.

I suspect that too and suspect Congress would ignore all evidence that is contrary to their tyrannical agendas.

I'm just fed up and not listening to any more sob story accounts of shootings. I just change the channel. Too many shooting incidents which many lead up to coincidences that point to this clandestine government staging them. True, that some of these shootings may be isolated but too many have been related to each other and many of them have WAY too many holes in their stories for the people like myself to even have empathy for.

I suspect much of what's called world history has been stage-managed hoaxings, gov-sponsored clandestinely and otherwise.

Eric Holder appeases Mexican gang members over the Southern border by aiding, abetting and covering up gun supplying and ammunitions to the international drug cartel mafias. And of course, he's the same asshole that wants to take away our guns. I'm not sick of guns... I'm sick of the lies we are being fed!

Reconstituted citizen State Militias would be a powerful Constitutional antidote for their lies.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-01-31 16:17:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#152. To: GreyLmist (#149)
Coincidence as in maybe it's a different Adam P. Lanza?

No. Coincidence as in heavy sarcasm.
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz posted on 2013-01-31 16:52:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#153. To: GreyLmist (#150)
Thanks for posting that pic, btw. I couldn't get it to display downsized.

You're welcome.
Add "width=800" (without the quotations) after the " before the >

No more, no less.
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz posted on 2013-01-31 16:58:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#154. To: wudidiz (#152)
No. Coincidence as in heavy sarcasm.

Oh. lol My sarcasm detector was on the fritz. :/ Thanks for the pic sizing directions in your next post. I recalled you telling us about that before and tried it several times. It's worked well on other pics (like the Sandy Hook photos about the weather issue) but not that day for that one for some reason. Likewise, sometimes I can set video displays to start here at a particular point of time and sometimes I can't. Get a message about frames format incompatibility for that option or some such wording to that effect or else no message about why it isn't working. Usually works ok, though, for setting the video urls to start at the site at a particular point by appending #t=XhXmXs at the end of the url path with X being the number of hours, minutes, and seconds as needed.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-01-31 18:21:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#155. To: noone222 (#139) (Edited)
Pure speculation adds nothing and may be counter-productive if it leads to furthering negative opinions relative to "conspiracy theorists" "tin foil hat wearing bitter clingers."

I think she knows that all too well, which is exactly why she does it, and very poorly might I add. She certainly doesn't hold a candle to BeAChooser.
God is always good!
RickyJ posted on 2013-01-31 19:51:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#156. To: noone222, GreyLmist (#135)
...Riddled With Wide Eyed Speculation That Stretches The Imagination Far Past the Breaking Point Causing Ones Brain to Develop a Foggy Grey Mist...

Whose brain?
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz posted on 2013-01-31 21:05:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#157. To: GreyLmist, noone222 (#138)
Well, even if you do mind, I reckon.

Well, yeah.
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz posted on 2013-01-31 21:06:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#158. To: noone222, GreyLmist (#139) (Edited)
Pure speculation adds nothing and may be counter-productive if it leads to furthering negative opinions relative to "conspiracy theorists" "tin foil hat wearing bitter clingers."

Speculation is counter-productive?
Is it the cause of negative opinions to "conspiracy theorists"?
I think that credit goes to the conspirators.
Now, anyone who buys that "tin-foil hat conspiracy theory" load of counter-productivity is useless and doesn't matter anyway.
Just sayin.
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz posted on 2013-01-31 21:13:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#159. To: RickyJ, GreyLmist, noone222 (#155) (Edited)
Pure speculation adds nothing and may be counter-productive if it leads to furthering negative opinions relative to "conspiracy theorists" "tin foil hat wearing bitter clingers."

I think she knows that all too well, which is exactly why she does it, and very poorly might I add. She certainly doesn't hold a candle to BeAChooser.

How the hell can you compare BeAChooser to GreyLmist?

"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz posted on 2013-01-31 22:10:30 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#160. To: wudidiz, RickyJ, GreyLmist, noone222 (#159)
What is it exactly that you're trying to prove wud?
Serious confusion exists on the reported facts alone, it it not necessary to try to tie Charles Linberg or King Tut from Egypt to the killings. What purpose does wild speculation serve other than to cloud the picture?
It comes down to dealing with the most likely scenarious, not the most remote and unlikely ones unless there is truly strong reason to do so.
So I'm asking, what are you trying to achieve?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2013-01-31 22:17:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#161. To: FormerLurker, GreyLmist (#160)
making an effort to stop the hypocritical control freaks from bothering someone who's very bright, very hard working and putting in a lot of painstaking effort to discover the truth about things that have happened.
understand I'm biased as I know firsthand how much more perceptive and discerning Grey is than some of the posters that are antagonizing her.
I don't expect this answer to satisfy you, but there you have it anyway
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz posted on 2013-02-01 0:19:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#162. To: purplerose (#148)
Eric Holder appeases Mexican gang members over the Southern border by aiding, abetting and covering up gun supplying and ammunitions to the international drug cartel mafias. And of course, he's the same asshole that wants to take away our guns. I'm not sick of guns... I'm sick of the lies we are being fed!

"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
James Deffenbach posted on 2013-02-01 0:23:47 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#163. To: GreyLmist (#151)
I suspect much of what's called world history has been stage-managed hoaxings, gov-sponsored clandestinely and otherwise.

The old adage is proven true all the time, the victors write the history books. And the first casualty of war is the truth.

"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
James Deffenbach posted on 2013-02-01 0:26:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#164. To: All (#161)
The producers of these psyops know something most of us don't.
They know that most people will believe the Big Lie.
They know that anyone who looks and sees through the veil will be ridiculed and ostracized.

They're counting on it.
And so they should. It happens every time.
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz posted on 2013-02-01 0:32:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#165. To: wudidiz, All (#164)
www.veteranstoday.com/201...on-aurora-and-sandy-hook/
The Nexus of Tyranny: The Strategy Behind Tucson, Aurora and Sandy Hook

christine posted on 2013-02-01 1:16:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#166. To: christine, GreyLmist, *Black Ops - Psyops*, *Bilderberg and NWO Watch*, *No Planers* (#165)
Sandy Hook poses so many uncertainties and even contradictions that it should come as no surprise that virtually every aspect of whatever happened is being subjected to the most minute scrutiny.
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz posted on 2013-02-01 1:42:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#167. To: wudidiz (#164)
The producers of these psyops know something most of us don't.
They know that most people will believe the Big Lie.
They know that anyone who looks and sees through the veil will be ridiculed and ostracized.

They're counting on it.
And so they should. It happens every time.

I agree.
We should all be livid. Stop acting like docile, mentally castrated pussies and grow a pair. It's time to get in their face. Why should we speak in hushed tones and act all polite when we are being literally raped every day?
noone222 posted on 2013-02-01 4:42:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#168. To: christine (#165)
The Nexus of Tyranny: The Strategy Behind Tucson, Aurora and Sandy Hook

This is an extremely interesting look at the mass shootings. It shows to what extremes some entity is willing to go in order to subjugate us. It's actually very concerning, dangerously concerning to consider how well their programming has worked. These ghouls are not a part of us. They can't be, can they ?
We should all be livid. Stop acting like docile, mentally castrated pussies and grow a pair. It's time to get in their face. Why should we speak in hushed tones and act all polite when we are being literally raped every day?
noone222 posted on 2013-02-01 4:51:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#169. To: noone222 (#167)
I agree.

Thank you.
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz posted on 2013-02-01 5:02:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#170. To: noone222, christine, all (#168)
www.abeldanger.net/2012/1...rayleigh-enterprises.html
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz posted on 2013-02-01 5:21:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#171. To: wudidiz (#170)
If you think about it the PTB have had us living in an illusion that they've created for at least 100 years (through a financial prison) ... is it a stretch to think that these shootings are simply more of the same ?
We should all be livid. Stop acting like docile, mentally castrated pussies and grow a pair. It's time to get in their face. Why should we speak in hushed tones and act all polite when we are being raped every day?
noone222 posted on 2013-02-01 5:26:23 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#172. To: noone222 (#171)
Not according to my experience.
I'm looking at Serco RCA DHS Freemason Satanic Pedophile Ring Hollywood
It goes deep.

It's too much, I'm going to sleep.
(rhyme unintended)
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz posted on 2013-02-01 6:12:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#173. To: James Deffenbach (#163)
I suspect much of what's called world history has been stage-managed hoaxings, gov-sponsored clandestinely and otherwise.

The old adage is proven true all the time, the victors write the history books. And the first casualty of war is the truth.

I think the truth can be mended despite its enemies. Their ahistorical and histrionic bunkum we can do without.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-02-01 13:39:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#174. To: wudidiz (#161)
Thank you, wud. My independent research here on the Lanza family has been more controversial than I thought it would be, sparse as it was. Even so, I think the New Hampshire info that I might not have noticed or archived otherwise was useful, at least to me, regarding the social security data until further research from elsewhere was more publicly known. My research on the Paley family is even sparser, so hopefully there will be less rumblings when I post that at another thread where I have a some notes stored pertaining to them.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-02-01 14:39:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#175. To: All (#141)
BEST NEWS Sandy Hook School Teacher Vicki Soto, Died a Hero Shielding Her Students From Gunman - YouTube

Noticed that the Soto family interview video that was posted and linked at #137 and #141 has been deleted. Am re-posting it from the todaynews.today.com source.
Article with video at the page: Slain hero teacher's family: 'She loved those students more than anything'
Video popout link

Visit NBCNews.com for breaking news, world news, and news about the economy
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-02-01 15:02:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#176. To: wudidiz (#172)
MUST SEE! Sandy Hook Versus Real Existence School Shootings! And Also The Academy Award Would Go To?

Itistoolate posted on 2013-02-01 15:50:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#177. To: wudidiz (#166)
Sandy Hook was another attampt by the anti-gunners to whip up support to take our guns away.
This would be the first step to tyranny.
The Bill of Rights spells out our rights in the First Amendment, and then tells us how to protect those rights in the 2nd Amendemnt with the 'right to keep and bear arms". This right is an "individual right" as noted by the Supreme Court in Heller v. City of Chicago. ;)
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
BTP Holdings posted on 2013-02-05 17:46:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#178. To: wudidiz (#170)
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

What a great quote - thanks and Amen!
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod posted on 2013-02-05 18:04:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#179. To: GreyLmist (#143)
Excerpt from an article at veteranstoday.com: Sandy Hook was “them” doing 9/11 “on the cheap.”

I agree with this completely. ;)
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
BTP Holdings posted on 2013-02-06 17:11:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#180. To: wudidiz, Lod (#170)
This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless.

This is the most important part of the quote. ;)
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
BTP Holdings posted on 2013-02-06 17:13:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#181. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#77) (Edited)
"...Drill before the event: A highly circulated photo depicts students walking in a single file formation with their hands on each others’ shoulders and eyes shut. Yet this was the image of a drill event that took place some months prior to the event itself...."

Cross-referencing Post #7 at 4um Title: Joyce Riley Interviews Mike Powers Sandy Hook Investigation (Edited version no commercials)
Re: interview statements by the alleged school nurse, the Paley twins, and student Ella Seaver on being told to close their eyes while walking; similar to Barry Jennings' statement about being instructed repeatedly by a firefighter to not look down while walking through WTC 7.
Edited for spacing.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-02-08 0:34:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#182. To: All (#67)
Sandy Hook Elementary School Nurse Sally Cox EXPOSED Newtown Shooting FRAUD - YouTube
At 1:29-1:32 boy in short sleeve shirt, female in white shirt
At 1:37-1:41 several children with no coats and thin shirts, two in short sleeve shirts
At 6:49 boys with thin shirts and no coats, one in short sleeves

That video has been removed and I can't find a copy of it.
Replacement video and pic showing people dressed in summery clothing (shorts, short sleeves) and others without coats, not appearing to be cold:
Sandy Hook News Chopper Helicopter - Crystal Clear - HD and Zooms - YouTube
Published on Jan 24, 2013
@4:31 we see Gene Rosen near the corner of the building, @4:41 the man in the purple top steps precisely with his back to the sun on the shadow of the utility pole, the shadow of the utility pole and this man line up precisely. Extending that shadow path to the driveway across the street, we can arrive at a Time Stamp due to shadow direction analysis of 10:57am EST. Plus or minus 4 minutes.

[My note: Post #70: From midnight until the hour of 11 a.m., temperatures decreased for 8 hours far below the freezing point (from 23 to 21 degrees), then went to very near freezing (34 degrees) for 2 hours until 11 a.m. when it registered at 40 degrees ... with the winds and humidity impacting the windchill factor, which would make it seem colder than the logged temperatures.]

Sandy Hook - woman in short sleeve blue shirt:

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-02-08 2:22:06 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#183. To: All (#182)
Post #87: Video and Photographic Record + Analyses and Newtown Weather Reports

Video near the bottom of Post #67 listed there was removed. A replacement video and pic are posted at #182.

This post is my updated template for the Newtown weather issues and info.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-02-08 2:39:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#184. To: GreyLmist, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, christine, Itistoolate, titorite, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#183)
asheepnomore.net/2013/10/...ananda-street-sandy-hook/
sandyhooktruth.wordpress....records-yogananda-street/
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz posted on 2013-10-29 2:43:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#185. To: wudidiz, 4 (#184) (Edited)
asheepnomore.net/2013/10/...ananda-street- sandy-hook/ [Title: "Interesting Property Records – Yogananda Street (Sandy Hook)" Posted on October 28, 2013 | Pic: record of addresses for Peter Lanza; Adam Lanza not listed as a relative]
sandyhooktruth.wordpress....records-yogananda- street/ [Title: "Interesting Property Records – Yogananda Street" Posted on January 10, 2013 | Pic: record of addresses for Peter Lanza; Adam Lanza not listed as a relative]

Very interesting indeed. Other than a slight variation in the above pic addresses for the Peter Lanza Properties Record, the article info and linked sources for it seem to be the same at both sites, with an easier reading format at the 2nd site: sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com
Am archiving the article's linked sources here:

The properties can be viewed here, just type in “Yogananda” street.
data.visionappraisal.com/NewtownCT/search.asp [Edit to add: Routes to vgsi.com/vision/Applications/ParcelData/Home.aspx]
John Trentacosta is the CEO of Newtown Savings Bank
nsbonline.com/blog/?p=202
and is also on the Federal Reserve Advisory Council.
acorn-online...trentacosta-named-to-federal-reserve-advisory-council.html [Edit to add: link not working]
Snapshot of Trentacosta article with United Way info
sandyhooktruth.files.wordpress...trentacosta-federal-reserve.jpg?w=640
Fundraising info link:
montville-ct.patch.com...newtown-savings-bank-teams-with-united-way...

The endnote at the site you listed 1st, asheepnomore.net, has an interesting Pic on the school demolition. It recommeds reading all of the comments at the sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com but I recommend the Comments section at both sites. There is only one currently at asheepnomore.net and it talks about the Navy shipyard shooting too. The sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com site references much intriguing research at September cluesforum.info on CT State Rep. John Frey of the "White House Fellows" program.
Re: the United Way fundraising management/Disaster Capitalism connection in the article, noted and linked above
In the aftermath of 9/11, CNSNews.com did extensive investigative reporting regarding September 11th Fund misspending and administrative abuses of trust by its handlers: the United Way, the Red Cross, the New York Community Trust, etc. This link has a copy of one of those reports: UNITED WAY - 9/11 funds go to left-wing causes unconnected with terror (you MUST read this!) 4um Post-reference for that at #76 here. More at #66 here re: "some undetermined amount that was being allocated through Red Cross/United Way managers of the 9/11 Fund for the purpose of legal representation for incarcerated terror suspects like the Dancing Israelis."
Edited for bracketed link notations, spelling and spacing + to reword last paragraph.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-10-29 19:42:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#186. To: wudidiz, All (#185) (Edited)
John Trentacosta is the CEO of Newtown Savings Bank
nsbonline.com/blog/?p=202

Excerpts from the statements posted there by John F. Trentacosta on January 5, 2013:

Our Bank is actively providing support in our role as depository for the Sandy Hook School Support Fund. We have been receiving thousands of letters, phone calls and contributions from all over the world. ... The volume of mail over the past several weeks has been so great that we reassigned many of our employees to attend to this. Last weekend, our Trustees, and their spouses, provided generous assistance opening mail and sorting checks in our Community Room.

This is to clarify and correct the header info for these two Trentacosta links:

and [John Trentacosta] is also on the Federal Reserve Advisory Council.
acorn-online...trentacosta-named-to-federal-reserve-advisory-council.html [Edit to add: link not working]
Snapshot of Trentacosta article with ~~United Way~~ Federal Reserve info
sandyhooktruth.files.wordpress...trentacosta-federal-reserve.jpg?w=640

On the Trentacosta/Fed Res issue: Couldn't find even a Wayback Machine page-copy for the non-working, acorn-online newslink. Also couldn't find a newscopy for the unsourced article-snapshot linked at sandyhooktruth.files.wordpress (dated April 1, 2011 and titled there as: "Newtown Savings Bank president John Trentacosta named to Federal Reserve advisory council") but I was able to find a corroborative Press Release from March 2011 by Newtown Savings Bank, titled there as: "Newtown Savings Bank President Named to Federal Reserve Bank Council" and "Newtown Savings Bank President Named to Federal Reserve Bank of NY CDIA Council". That's also corroborated at jasperjottings-daily.com...page/2/ | jlinkedin-trentacosta-john and at linkedin.com under John Trentacosta's Additional Information: ... Federal Reserve Board Community Depository, Institutions Advisory Council 2009 – Present ...
This is a link for Google's html cache of the file: http://www.newyorkfed.org/aboutthefed/annual/annual12/advisory.pdf for the "FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF NEW YORK ADVISORY GROUPS 2012 ANNUAL REPORT", where Trentacosta's name is listed on Pg. 2 there but somewhat anomalously (like numerous others throughout those 6 sample pages) with an odd mixture of caps and lowercase letters (JOhN F. TRENTACOSTA President and Chief Executive Officer Newtown Savings Bank Newtown, Conn. COMMUNITY DEPOSITORY INSTITUTIONS ADVISORY COUNCIL). Rather sloppy for an official report.
The federalreserve.gov site has a posted letter, allegedly from Trentacosta, that is addressed to them, the Treasury Dept., the FDIC and is also copied to Senators Richard Blumenthal and Joseph I. Lieberman (Sample pages at Google's html cache here; Full version at: http://www.federalreserve.gov/SECRS/2012/October/20121025/R-1442/R- 1442_101612_109393_566338455062_1.pdf). Will post some excerpts from that 4 page letter in another posting.
This is to expand the header of this link (which is last in the archived list at Post #185 above for the sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com references) to clarify that it is the link Re: the United Way fundraising management/Disaster Capitalism connection

Fundraising info link: CT newsource with article info on the United Way,
Newtown Savings Bank and its CEO/Pres. Trentacosta (Federal Reserve council/advisor)
montville-ct.patch.com...newtown-savings-bank-teams-with-united-way...

This is an excerpt from that article:

The bank can't disclose how much has been raised so far, but support has been widespread and the United Way has been utilizing the press and social media to spread the word.

Edited for spacing.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-10-30 21:00:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#187. To: wudidiz, Itistoolate, All, *Banker and Finance Weirdness* (#186) (Edited)
The federalreserve.gov site has a posted letter, allegedly from Trentacosta, that is addressed to them, the Treasury Dept., the FDIC and is also copied to Senators Richard Blumenthal and Joseph I. Lieberman (Sample pages at Google's html cache here; Full version at: http://www.federalreserve.gov/SECRS/2012/October/20121025/ R-1442/R- 1442_101612_109393_566338455062_1.pdf). Will post some excerpts from that 4 page letter in another posting.

Flagged Itis to this post because the alleged Trentacosta letter to the Federal Reserve, et al. (noted above and from October of 2012 -- two months before the alleged Sandy Hook shootings), seems to have something to do with Switzerland's Bank of International Settlements and its Basel III regulations wreaking havoc on mortgage and bank solvency issues here. These are some excerpts about that:

RE: Basel III Capital Proposals
Over the past fifteen years, in order to continue to service its marketplace and to enhance earnings, the Bank has entered the secondary mortgage market. We currently have $825 million in loans that we have sold but have retained servicing. Given the capital constraints of a mutual bank, placing these loans in portfolio would have been virtually impossible.
with respect to mortgage banking the current proposal's restrictions on mortgage servicing rights will negatively impact our capital and consequently our ability to maintain our current position in our market place. This will clearly reduce competition, create a higher reliance on the national players and result in higher pricing for our consumers.
The complexity of the mortgage risk weights based on loan-to-value ratios will create a regulatory burden for us. Over the last several months, we have reacted to the needs of certain borrowers that would have qualified for Federal programs such as HAMP or HARP except that we had sold these loans to the Federal Home Loan Bank under their MPF Program. Non-eligibility for favorable treatment for loans sold to the FHLB system remains a mystery to us. These borrowers have reached out to us for assistance and we have attempted to meet their needs by repurchasing these loans and offering more favorable terms.
the current proposal's restrictions on mortgage servicing rights will negatively impact our capital and consequently our ability to maintain our current position in our market place. This will clearly reduce competition, create a higher reliance on the national players and result in higher pricing for our consumers.
In addition this aspect of the proposal could materially impact the Bank's earnings.
I am sure I am not the only banker concerned with the proposal to increase risk weights for delinquent loans. Since we already set aside reserves for loans that fall into more serious stages of delinquency, this proposal would have us take charges to capital twice. This appears to make no sense to us in the industry as loan risk is currently managed through the ALLL process. If this proposal were to be adopted, we would clearly be less inclined to work with our borrowers and more likely to deploy balance sheet clean-up strategies through loans sales. Once placed in the hands of "problem asset purchasers" this could have a negative impact on housing, in general.
Also we question the limitation of 1.25% of total risk-weighted assets for the loan loss reserve. We believe this to be counter-intuitive to building stronger balance sheets and safer banks.
The Bank currently has an unrealized gain of $1.1 million in available for sale securities on its bond portfolio. When rates eventually rise, these bonds have the capacity to be significantly under-water, negatively impacting capital under the proposed rules. This will eventually lead the Bank into classifying more securities into "Held to Maturity" which will have an adverse effect on the Bank's liquidity management. An increasing focus on HTM classifications will also result in the Bank purchasing shorter duration instruments and require management to adjust investment policies and practices, accordingly.
More specifically, the changes to the residential mortgage risk-weights will have a profound impact on the Bank's regulatory capital ratios causing our risk-weighted assets number to increase by at least $20 million for this change alone. The increase is likely to be higher than that; however, it is difficult to track all of those instances where the Bank holds both a first and second mortgage on the same property whereby the second lien pushes the loan-to-value above the stated threshold causing both loans to be treated as Category 2 loans.
The impact of a 150% risk weight for non-residential nonaccrual loans results in an additional $4.7 million increase for risk-weighted assets. Finally, although not fully effective until 2018, the amount of the Bank's combined mortgage servicing assets and deferred tax assets below the deduction threshold level must be risk weighted at 250%. The Bank's risk-weighted assets will jump another $15 million when this goes into effect. Although difficult to model with certainty given the complexity and vagueness of the proposed rules, the Bank's Tier 1 Risk-Based Capital and Total Risk-Based Capital ratios will be further negatively impacted by all of these risk-weighting changes.
While supporting stronger capital requirements for the U.S. banking system, Basel III makes no differentiation for community banks and in particular, the mutual form of organization.
It appears that our form of organization was not considered at all when considering these proposed capital rules.
If left unaddressed, the Basel III proposals could be the beginning of a rapid decline of the mutual form of organization among Banks. This would be a terrible loss for the industry and the communities that we serve.

Soon thereafter, Fed Res councilman/advisor John Trentacosta's Newtown Savings Bank became the depository for undisclosed amounts of money contributed to the Sandy Hook School Support Fund -- in conjuction with the United Way, a notorious maladministrator of the September 11th Fund (Reference the last paragraph of Post #185 above).
Edited for spelling, spacing and highlighting.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-10-30 22:22:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#188. To: All, *9-11* (#187) (Edited)
Soon thereafter, Fed Res councilman/advisor John Trentacosta's Newtown Savings Bank became the depository for undisclosed amounts of money contributed to the Sandy Hook School Support Fund -- in conjuction with the United Way, a notorious maladministrator of the September 11th Fund (Reference the last paragraph of Post #185 above).

Sandy Hook School Support Fund and September 11th Fund info ping, Posts #185, #186 and #187.
Edited to add clarifications.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-10-30 22:38:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
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