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Title: Alex Jones lost the battle but won the war! He was exposed to Main Stream Media !!! (VIDEO)
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Published: Jan 12, 2013
Author: DESTINE2RISE.COM
Post Date: 2013-01-12 08:52:27 by Itistoolate
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Views: 1847
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RM - Piers Morgan Vs Alex Jones Reaction! (VIDEO)

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noone222  posted on  2013-01-12   9:03:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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noone222  posted on  2013-01-12   9:05:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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noone222  posted on  2013-01-12   9:06:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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noone222  posted on  2013-01-12   9:07:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: noone222 (#4)

Sandy Hook - Mock Terror Drills - Crisis Actors

Itistoolate  posted on  2013-01-12   9:13:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Itistoolate, noone222, Lod, 4um (#5)

Troops Ordered To Kill All Americans Who Do Not Turn In Guns

When I opened 4um up a minute ago, the above headline was the first thing I saw. Nothing new here, but it's never felt closer to reality. So tell me again why we should "debate" fascists in hushed tones when they have already decided to confiscate our guns? AJ admitted he could have done a lot of things differently on Piers Scumbag's show, but upon further review, he did fine. Is there anyone on this board who could hold their temper in the presence of evil? I certinly couldn't, and I could care less who AJ turned off. They'll be the first to turn in their guns anyway.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-01-12   10:13:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Jethro Tull (#6) (Edited)

Is there anyone on this board who could hold their temper in the presence of evil? I certinly couldn't, and I could care less who AJ turned off. They'll be the first to turn in their guns anyway.

You cannot solve any problem by approaching it at the same level in which it was created. Anger isn't going to solve our problems...it will be used against us. Piers Morgan isn't even worthy of rising to anger, not worth the energy. lol.....so Piers Morgan is too tough and tricky for AJ to control himself? Piers made him lose it? AJ needs to learn self control.

Is there any case where losing your temper improved the situation? I can't think of any. I would not turn in my guns, but I will not lose my temper. An inability to control emotions gets people killed every day. The person who can master himself/herself prevails.

I can't give AJ a free pass for his inability to control himself......nor can I take him seriously when he fails to do so again and again and again.

abraxas  posted on  2013-01-12   12:02:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: abraxas (#10)

I suppose it depends on how deeply one feels about the ultimate goal of our enemies; total gun confiscation. If one believes this to be the true goal, those believers have three viable options when confronting a fascist. 1) play the debate game with a person who has no desire to be reasonable and expect to be interrupted and mocked a la Larry Pratt, 2) don't bother engaging the s'bags as it's a waste of time, of 3) risk going on a show like Morgan's only to lose one's temper as Jones did.

Yesterday Jones acknowledged he behaved poorly during that interview and had he a second chance (I wouldn't be suprised if he does get that chance) would do it differently. I can relate to his sitch, having lost my cool all too often. In the end it's all pretty irrelevant as the gun grab has commenced and how we all respond to it won't be determined on how Jones behaved, but rather how we each will react when the knock on the door comes.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-01-12   12:44:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Jethro Tull (#11)

I suppose it depends on how deeply one feels about the ultimate goal of our enemies; total gun confiscation.

1) play the debate game with a person who has no desire to be reasonable

Yesterday Jones acknowledged he behaved poorly

No, self control is NOT situation dependent. It is consistent. One who is master of self is first and foremost consistent and, therefore, able to WIN the battles before they ever play out.

Not play the debate game....like AJ getting played like a fiddle. WIN the debate game. Every battle is won before it every plays out. I don't even think Piers Morgan is much of an adversary for a smart and prepared participant in debate. Think of how Ben Swann would handle puny Piers.

AJ has a pattern of self abasement after doing the same thing over and over again. Hence, I question any sincerety on his part and acknowledge that his repeat behavior and day late self abasement does more damage to any notion of truth or freedom than help. This makes sense because if he can't help himself then he is in no position to "help" a movement or other people. I say beware of following a man with a bullhorn.

abraxas  posted on  2013-01-12   12:53:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: abraxas (#12)

No, self control is NOT situation dependent. It is consistent. One who is master of self is first and foremost consistent and, therefore, able to WIN the battles before they ever play out.

I don't for a second think AJ has self control. Anyone who takes the time to listen to his show for a week will reach that same conclusion. Control, in the face of extreme danger, is a not a virtue (/Goldwater). Despite this flaw he has awakened countless people to what is, and what will be. I wish we had a few more who could claim the same.

I have no idea if he caused more damage than good, but given the small numbers (my take) on who will actually fight when there is no other option, I doubt the needle moved at all. As I said, over talking Piers Morgan should be a prerequisite for any freedom loving guest, as all it really does is beat the elitist Brit to the punch.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-01-12   13:07:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Jethro Tull (#13)

Control, in the face of extreme danger, is a not a virtue (/Goldwater).

I have to disagree with Goldwater. The thinking, rational, controlled person makes calculated responses to danger. This person is PREPARED to act in the face of danger. This person is EFFECTIVE in the face of danger.

I have to go with Sun Tzu over Goldwater:

A leader leads by example not by force.

風 Swift as the wind

林 Quiet as the forest

火 Conquer like the fire

山 Steady as the mountain

To know your Enemy, you must become your Enemy.

It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperilled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperilled in every single battle.

The master of self is controlled in all situations. : )

abraxas  posted on  2013-01-12   13:28:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: abraxas, 4um (#16)

I boxed some as a kid. Regardless of the level of training, when the bell rung, and you took your first shot on the nose, most would resort to instinct over training. It's a weakness, but it's the construct of a person in eminent danger. The same applied to shooting situations. Survival trumped discipline nearly every time. Just as there has been only one Sun Tzu, there is one Jones, one you and one me. We arrive here with strengths and weaknesses which, IMO, are about to be tested to the extreme by a rogue government. I pray I'm wrong but I know I'm right. I think we all do. Good luck to us all in what promises to be the fight none of us wanted and one that can't be avoided given what we've learned over the years.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-01-12   13:52:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Jethro Tull (#17)

I boxed some as a kid. Regardless of the level of training, when the bell rung, and you took your first shot on the nose, most would resort to instinct over training.

Great boxers win before they get in the ring........think Ali and how he showed the world how great he was. Weakness is to be overcome, not an excuse or a crutch.

Every master is first a master of self. AJ wants to be considered a leader, wants that recognition.....without accepting the RESPONSIBILITY for it. That's no leader, IMHO.

Who do you want to have your back in a fight? The guy who can't even control himself or the man who has shown you by action that he can lead and succeed? Who do you want with a finger on the trigger? The guy who is too busy barking with a bullhorn to react or the guy who has a plan for every scenario?

abraxas  posted on  2013-01-12   14:13:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: abraxas (#18)

I agree, AJ is no leader he's a town crier and to that point he has awoken some of the more somnolent among us. At this point it's irrelevant, IMO. They'll be no further infowar. That was cast in stone with the rejection of RP and the installation of the Kenyan this past November. And about Ali? I thought Frazer was the better fighter :) I never joined the national acceptance of a Black Muslim who has at his core the notion that Whites are "blue eyed devils."

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-01-12   14:25:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Jethro Tull (#19)

And about Ali? I thought Frazer was the better fighter :) I never joined the national acceptance of a Black Muslim who has at his core the notion that Whites are "blue eyed devils."

I as referring to Ali's adept ability to spot weakness in an opponent and exaggerate his strengths.......before the battle ever took place. : )

Frazier was a great boxer--powerful hook. In that first great match between Ali and Frazier, Frazier did his homework and was the master of strategy. Second time around, Ali was the master. Both fights were won before they stepped in the ring.

abraxas  posted on  2013-01-12   14:49:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: abraxas (#20)

Both fights were won before they stepped in the ring.

I didn't see that from my cheap seats, A. They were classics because of how they developed as they progressed. For either man to have entered the ring bound to a pre fight strategy, would have been a massive fail. They hated each other. The standard probe, injury and finish never showed up. They were about a 15 rounds of pure power punching in the form of hooks, crosses and combinations.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-01-12   15:55:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Jethro Tull (#23)

They hated each other.

Sure, but know the enemy was the strategy that prevailed in each fight.

That first fight, Frazier had Eddie Futch develop a strategy based on Ali's weak points that determined the win, the key rounds-11,15--were won by Frazier based on the strategy of know the enemy--watch Ali's right hand, when it drops deliver a left hook to his face. Another strategy was to take the blows early on and come on strong when Ali was weaker.

In that Manila fight, Ali won but conceded the fight was the "Closest thing to dying that I know of." In that fight, Ali went after Frazier's weak points in a strategy for the win while Frazier maintained his strategy. Great match. But, this one came down to Ali's work before the fight to undermine Frazier, IMHO.

I say both were great fights because each knew the enemy, not how much they hated the enemy, and the win was determined by who knew more. In each, the one who knew the enemy best prevailed. Thus said, I didn't personally witness the fights. I just tried to see them through the eyes of Sun Tsu.

abraxas  posted on  2013-01-12   16:32:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: abraxas (#26)

I just tried to see them through the eyes of Sun Tsu.

No mas, no mas! Lets go for a bowl of chop suey and a few brews :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-01-12   16:45:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Jethro Tull, all (#27)

Can we agree that Ted Nugent kicked Piers Morgan's ass?

78 or 80 are criminals who walk and get a weapon illegally. Worst gun control, highest crime rate.

You're playing the idiot's advocate here! Ted LOL!!

abraxas  posted on  2013-01-12   17:17:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: abraxas (#30)

Uncle Ted 'pwned' the perv! thanks!

Lod  posted on  2013-01-12   17:58:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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