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Xeni Jardin at 6:41 pm Mon, Feb 4 Slaying victims Alex and Macaila Marshall with their father, Phillip Marshall. The apparent murder-suicide was discovered at the family home in an upscale gated golfing community in Murphys, California. According to local news reports, teen friends of Alex Marshall, 17 (Facebook, Twitter, Instagram), and Macaila Marshall (Facebook, Twitter, Instagram), 14, noticed the siblings had not been active via text or social media updates since Thursday and went by the house on Saturday to check on them. The last posts made by either child to Instagram and Facebook were dated Thursday night. The friends told police that when they arrived, they found Phillip Marshall, 54, "lying in a pool of blood inside the home," his 9mm Glock nearby. Deputies believe the children were shot while sleeping on a couch. The family dog was found shot to death in a nearby bedroom. Marshall's estranged wife Sean, the children's mother, was out of the country at the time. Phillip Marshall has been identified as a former pilot for Eastern and United airlines. He self-published a number of books, including at least two about his 9/11 conspiracy theories: "The Big Bamboozle" (February 9, 2012) and "False Flag 911: How Bush, Cheney and the Saudis Created the Post-911 World" (July 29, 2008). A previous novel published in 2003, "Lakefront Airport, New Orleans," detailed his claimed experience as a pilot for the US during Iran/Contra. In his books and his social media bios (including multiple Facebook accounts, his Twitter account and a Tumblr), he claims to have served as a contract pilot for the CIA's Special Activities Division during the Iran-Contra affair, flying shipments to and from Nicaragua. He appeared on "outsider truth" shows like Coast to Coast to promote the theories in his books that 9/11 was an "inside job," the result of a plot between the US government and the Saudis. From his author bio on Createspace.com, Amazon.com's self-publishing service: Beginning with his role in the 1980s as a Learjet captain first as part of a Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) sting on Pablo Escobar, and later in the covert arming of the Nicaraguan Contras, Marshall has studied and written 30-years worth of covert government special activities and the revolving door of Wall Street tricksters, media moguls, and their well funded politicians. I am unable to confirm the veracity of the claims in his self-authored bio at this time. A Facebook page for "The Big Bamboozle" showed posts as recent as January 31 with titles like, "WHAT IS THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY HIDING?," "THE ARAB WORLD KNOWS THE RAID WAS A HOAX," and posts about the Bin Laden assassination having been faked. "PICTURES PAINT A THOUSAND WORDS," read one such Facebook post from Marshall about photographs of the assassinated Al Qaeda leader. "Since bin Laden died in 2001, these would be "alleged" photos of bin Laden. Give us a break." He once also pitched those theories to a television news journalist with whom this blogger is acquainted. A young friend of the two slain teens with whom this blogger is personally acquainted described them as "sweet, funny, lively, good kids." A tweet from Macaila on January 25: Would it be wrong if I threw my cat with his claws retracted at my dads face right now?... #pissoff— Macaila Marshall (@MacailaMarshall) January 25, 2013 Photos from the siblings' Instagram feeds suggest that they were outgoing, well-liked by friends, and loved one another very much. In one, Macaila is in the hospital after a "golf cart accident," with her father sitting in the background. In the last self-portrait she posted on January 28, her brother blows a hair dryer at her while she goofs in the mirror. "I pretty much just wanted to say how great of a big brother you are," Macaila writes to her brother in another Instagram caption, "I love you so much!" A family photo Instagrammed by Alex shows the boy at a much younger age. In it, he is helping his father mow the lawn with a toy lawnmower. Macaila Marshall, from her Facebook profile. Poster Comment: L.A. Times - Two teens killed by father in apparent murder-suicide, officials sayFormer pilot and 9/11 conspiracy theorist shoots and kills 2 teen children, then himself
Phillip (alternately, "Philip") Marshall, 54, a career airline pilot who claimed to have once served as a contract pilot for the CIA and DEA during the Iran-Contra affair, shot and killed his two teenage children, and the family dog, then killed himself. 
Philip Marshall, a veteran airline captain and former government "special activities" contract pilot, has authored three books on Top Secret America, a group presently conducting business as the United States Intelligence Community. 
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Phillip Marshall's twitter avatar: Here's Dan Hopsicker's story about how he got the photo and what it means: "Look out kid, They keep it all hid.” Bob Dylan “Subterranean Homesick Blues” WORLD EXCLUSIVE May 6 2006--Venice,FL. by Daniel Hopsicker Deposed CIA head Porter Goss was once a member of the CIA's super-secret Operation 40, an assassination squad which roamed through North and Central America during the 1960's. Along with a number of men whose names became famous and whose lives and careers comprise a large part of America’s Secret History, Goss appears (see a comparison) in the historic photograph at right, which also appears on the cover of "Barry & 'the boys': The CIA, the Mob, and America's Secret History." It is the only extant photograph of the members of Operation Forty, the CIA’s assassination squad, taken in a Mexico City nightclub in 1963. Coupled with his close proximity to the terrorist hijackers who used his Congressional District in Charlotte County as one of their main bases of operations, this fact virtually shouts out for closer examination during the post-mortems dissecting his tenure as CIA chief. When we first saw the photo, it was in the yellowed frame used by nightclub photographers back in the 60's. It bore the name of a nightclub (La Reforma) in Mexico City, and was stamped with a date, January 22, 1963, ten months to the day before the Kennedy assassination. "Guido, meet the General. General, meet Guido." The Mexico City nightclub photo reveals a mixed group of Cuban exiles, Italian wise guys, and square-jawed military intelligence types. It was discovered among keepsakes kept in the safe of the widow of CIA pilot and drug smuggler Barry Seal, where it was overlooked by a 7-man team from the U.S. State Department which showed up at her house in 1995 to comb through her records. Barry Seal had been recruited at the age of 17, along with Lee Oswald, by CIA agent David Ferrie, at a two week summer camp of the Louisiana Civil Air Patrol in 1957. The product of a patrician Connecticut upbringing, an elite preparatory school and Yale University, Goss entered the high-stakes espionage game being played out between the Florida Keys and the coast of Cuba after the CIA-backed coup against Castro collapsed at the Bay of Pigs. "During his junior year, he met a CIA recruiter through his ROTC commanders,” reported the September 24, 2002 Orlando Sentinel, in a story headlined “TERRORISM FIGHT KEEPS REP. GOSS IN POLITICAL FRAY.” “It is true I was in CIA from approximately the late 50's to approximately the early 70's,” Goss told antagonist Michael Moore. At the time the picture was taken Barry Seal was a young-looking 24-year old. Porter Goss was the same age. "They've given you a number, and taken 'way your name." Seal is seated third from left. Sitting right next to him (second from left) is Porter Goss. Beside Goss is notorious "freedom fighter" Felix Rodriguez (front left), a Cuban vice cop under the corrupt Mob-run Batista regime in Cuba who later became an Iran Contra operative and a confidant of the first George Bush. On the other side of the table is the the only spook celebrant displaying any regard for tradecraft... Covering his face with his sport coat is Frank Sturgis, famous for being one of the Watergate burglars. Beside Sturgis (front right) is another famous spook, at least among Kennedy assassination researchers, William Seymour, the New Orleans representative of the Double-Chek Corporation, a CIA front used to recruit pilots (like Seal). Seymour is regarded by many researchers as the man who on several notable occasions is said to have impersonated Lee Harvey Oswald, when that lone nut gunman was out of the country. At the time it was taken the CIA's covert action chief in Mexico City was David Atlee Phillips, AKA Maurice Bishop, who reportedly met with Oswald in Dallas before the assassination. "You don't have the negative too do you?" The sensitive nature of the picture was confirmed by a person who had known and worked with Seal, who incidentally had been the inspiration for the hit song "Secret Agent Man," by his buddy Johnny Rivers in the 'mid-60's. The man, also the executor of Seal's estate, reacted with unconcealed shock when first shown the picture. “Where did you get that?” he demanded. “I didn’t know there were any… Where did this picture come from?" “Yeah, Barry was Op Forty,” Jerry Patrick Hemming confirmed. “He flew in killer teams inside the island (Cuba) before the invasion to take out Fidel.” Frank Sturgis, a member of the team that broke into Democratic National Committee headquarters at the Watergate complex in 1972, later admitted to having been part of Operation Forty. Other famous names who belonged to Operation Forty include Thomas Clines, Edwin Wilson and "Blond Ghost" Ted Shackley. Colonel William Bishop showed author Dick Russell a series of photographs of Latin-looking individuals who belonged to the group. On the backs of the pictures were the words "Special talent 1960-65, Ice pick man ... Butcher... Sniper and demo [demolition] expert ... Propaganda ... Knife man... Pilot and navigator ... Mutilator." “Bishop said, ‘We weren't playing a nice game.’” When nephew Chuck Giancana wrote about Mob Boss Sam Giancana’s strategic move to Mexico in early 1963, he wrote this about Operation Forty... "It was to be an all-out, no-holds-barred Latin American push. Mooney (Giancana) settled into a lavish Mexico City apartment and went right to work, drawing on the expertise and mammoth resources of the recently-formed CIA team of assassins and operatives specifically trained for Latin American clandestine operations. CIA insiders jokingly dubbed the team the White Hand, an allusion to the Mafia killer progenitors the Black Hand." "You're not cleared for that information." Although the photo was available at the time of his confirmation as head of the CIA, the major media showed no inclination to press Goss on the matter. In fact, the party line rang out everywhere. "Rep. Porter J. Goss has disclosed precious few details of his CIA employment from roughly 1960 to 1971,” reported a profile in the Associated Press. Reuters called him a “mystery man,” and said he had been “close-mouthed about his past.” “He worked in Haiti, the Dominican Republic and Mexico-tumultuous countries during that decade of the Cold War,” Reuters reported. During a 2002 interview with The Washington Post, Goss joked that he performed photo interpretation and "small-boat handling," which led to "some very interesting moments in the Florida Straits." He acknowledged he had recruited and run foreign agents and said he would be uncomfortable traveling to Cuba but wouldn't say more. “With a prep-school education and a Greek major at Yale, Goss passed up the conventional life to be a CIA spook,” reads one typical wire service account. Actually, the facts lean heavily towards the proposition that with “a prep school education and a Greek major at Yale,” Goss’s choice to become a CIA spook in the early 60's was an entirely conventional one. "Closed orders and secret societies" The appointment of Porter Goss revealed that what passes for American civic life may in reality be just an elaborate game of Inside Baseball. Goss found himself paired often with fellow Floridian, Democratic Sen. Bob Graham, then the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, leading the joint congressional inquiry into the attacks. The two men share another unique distinction: both were having breakfast on the morning of September 11th, 2001 with a man who reportedly wired $100,000 to Mohamed Atta. "When the news [of the attacks on the World Trade Center] came, the two Florida lawmakers who lead the House and Senate intelligence committees were having breakfast with the head of the Pakistani intelligence service.” In testimony before Congress on February 9, 2004, Chief Weapons Inspector David Kay noted, "Closed orders and secret societies, whether they be religious or governmental, are the groups that have the hardest time reforming themselves in the face of failure without outside input." When was the last time anyone heard a weapons inspector mention secret societies? Do you ever get the feeling there's something they're not telling us? Wayne Madsen was on the radio program Coast 2 Coast last night to talk about his findings in the Phillip Marshall Case After a week-long on-site investigation, former National Security Agency officer Wayne Madsen is “100% certain” that 9/11 investigator and author Philip Marshall and his two children were killed in a black ops hit. Madsen’s conclusion is that the cover story – an alleged murder-suicide – is transparently absurd.
More Porter Goss: Bomb Goes Off At Pentagon During Porter Goss Q&A At that September 11 meeting were three lawmakers Bob Graham, Porter Goss and Jon Kyl who were part of the Congressional delegation to Pakistan. Also present at this meeting were Pakistan’s ambassador to the U.S. Maleeha Lodhi and several members of the Senate and House Intelligence committees. This meeting was described by one press report as a “follow-up meeting” to that held in Pakistan in late August. After the Capitol meeting, Porter Goss went to the Pentagon where he is seen being interviewed, on camera, by the mainstream US media, while the attack sequence was still being played out. This video gives us some evidence regarding what happened at the Pentagon, as Goss was speaking: There is a distant boom, and people in camerashot turn around and gasp. Then, a minute later, we hear the sound of a large commercial plane flying full throttle, engines screaming, and people look towards where the sound is coming from. There were TWO events at the Pentagon that morning, and Porter Goss likely knows exactly what happened, and who was responsible – and Phil Marshall was onto Porter Goss. Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q44verk-cwM (before youtube pulls it, yet again). What is that explosion before the screaming jet noise? Is that screaming jet noise Flt 77? Operation 40 was a Central Intelligence Agency-sponsored undercover operation in the early 1960s, which was active in the United States and the Caribbean (including Cuba), Central America, and Mexico. It was approved by President Dwight D. Eisenhower in March 1960, after the January 1959 Cuban Revolution, and was presided over by Vice-president Richard Nixon. The group included Frank Sturgis (who would later become one of the Watergate burglars); Felix Rodriguez (a CIA officer who later was involved in the capture and summary execution of Che Guevara); Luis Posada Carriles (held in the US in 2010 on charges of illegal immigration, he is demanded by Venezuela for his key role in the execution of the 1976 Cubana Flight 455 bombing); Orlando Bosch (founder of the counterrevolutionary Coordination of United Revolutionary Organizations, that organized the 1976 murder of Chilean former minister Orlando Letelier); Rafael 'Chi Chi' Quintero; Virgilio Paz Romero; Pedro Luis Diaz Lanz; Bernard Barker; Porter Goss; and Barry Seal. Members took part in the April 1961 Bay of Pigs Invasion directed against the government of Cuban revolutionary leader Fidel Castro. Operation 40 had 86 employees in 1961, of which 37 were trained as case officers Much much more>>
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“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken Great commentary at site. Many, many are not purchasing the bullshit. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken Like Philip Marshall, Bandar Bush was involved in Iran Contra. Am posting some Amazon.com reviews/comments here on Philip Marshall's book, "The Big Bamboozle": By L. C. Northern "Regular Guy": He entices you to read the book by explaining how he can show problems with plane number and identification which might help understand 9/11. Then he uses a bait and switch [sic] about Iran Contra in the 1980's. By doberman21: Another "Patcon" Tragedy The govt. trolls are already busy trashing Marshall for "alleged" mental illness." Social engineering tends to be more successful when the sheep think everyone else buys the "official" MSM story. Anyone gullible enough to believe the "official" story obviously wouldn't have bothered to read Marshall's book anyway... so let's not pretend to actually be writing a review. [sic] So what do all these random targets have in common? Ever heard of "Patcon"? Recent FBI docs released in the Trentadue case through FOIA reveal "OKC" & Elohim City were part of FBI/Mossad operation Patcon... to stigmatize militias [sic] in prep. for disarmament & the coming police state (i.e. "coming" as in past sense, since its now here [sic] Ever ponder why the US Govt. & Mossad wld create & fund "Radical Islam" & what benefit they get out of it (hmmm.... phony "War on Terror" & "911" come to mind, + uber profits for central bankers & military industrial complex). Why is the US & Israel currently funding, training & arming communists posing as "Rebels" in Syria? Why did they fund communist "Rebels" posing as the so- called "Muslim Bro-hood" throughout the "Arab Spring"... & where did the name "Arab Spring" even originate? Ever heard of the European Spring of 1848 & the `48'ers (the same 48'ers kicked out of Europe for attempting to overthrow various govts.--who then found Marxist asylum in America & went to work in various newspapers, sowing seeds of Marxism to help Marx incite Revolution right here--in a very uncivil war). BTW, that's the same Marx who worked as a corresp. for Horace Greeley's NY Tribune--the "official newspaper" of the Republican Party--founded on the very "un-American" principles of highly Centralized Fedl. Govt. or anti-Jeffersonian principles of elitist Hamiltonian Federalism (i.e. the same principles espoused in Marx's Manifesto). These same 48er's then went to work for Marx's fave. President, Lincoln, raping pillaging & marauding all over the South, while serving the Union in its very uncivil war to suppress the U.S. Constitution & its campaign to erect a new unconstitutional form of govt. alien to the one formed by the founders. Who were the 48ers...& who were the majority of commies in Europe in the 1800's? The majority were from a particular religious background w/a knack for funding communism--& they're not Muslim)! The most import. question is why the main financial supporters of commies are almost exclusively from this religious background--that's again far from Muslim, yet it's the same group that claims to be threatened by "Radical Islam"? Here's a clue, it's the ONLY group that actually benefits from the "War on Terror" [sic] What possible benefit could the US, ISRAEL & Central Bankers that control both get from funding "Radical Islam" throughout the Middle East (hmmm... perhaps WWIII to precipitate GLOBAL disarmament... think "Patcon" on a global scale, where they make lots of $$ fomenting war to disarm the slaves... & the war they create facilitates the creation of U.N. Utopia a/k/a the global police state necessary to keep the slaves subdued & oppressed in inescapable peonage to the New Central Banking Order). Marshall was on the right track about the Saudis-- but stopped short of exposing the whole truth behind 911. Saudi Arabia was just a front to hide the real wizard behind the curtain...[sic] References on Patcon: Cached copy of Patriot Games BY J.M. BERGER | APRIL 18, 2012 | foreignpolicy.com -- 7 page article; excerpts [My note: Allegedly,] Members of The Order assassinated Jewish talk radio host Alan Berg in 1984, before most of its members were arrested and its leader killed in a standoff. Less than 10 percent of the money stolen by The Order was ever recovered, Code-named PATCON, for "Patriot-conspiracy," the investigation would last more than two years, crossing state and organizational lines in search of intelligence on the so-called Patriot movement, the label applied to a wildly diverse collection of racist, ultra-libertarian, right-wing and/or pro-gun activists and extremists who, over the years, have found common cause in their suspicion and fear of the federal government. The undercover agents met some of the most infamous names in the movement, but their work never led to a single arrest. When McVeigh walked through the middle of the investigation in 1993, he went unnoticed. [My note: Probable Patcon actor.] PATCON stayed under wraps for nearly 15 years, until it was discovered in Freedom of Information Act requests by the author. The account that follows is based on thousands of pages of FBI records on PATCON and the groups it targeted, as well as interviews with FBI agents who worked on the case, former FBI informants, and members of the targeted groups. PATCON had its origins in the investigation of Louis Beam, an infamous racial ideologue with connections to the original Order. In 1987, the government prosecuted him for sedition in connection with the group's activities, but he was acquitted and subsequently moved to the Austin, Texas, area. [My note: Probable Patcon actor; Leaderless resistance advocate: The concept of leaderless resistance was reportedly developed by Col. Ulius Louis Amoss, a former U.S. intelligence officer, in the early 1960s. An anti-communist, Amoss saw leaderless resistance as a backup for the possibility of a communist seizure of power in the United States. The concept was revived and popularized in an essay published by the anti-government Ku Klux Klan member Louis Beam in 1983 and again in 1992 (My note: or supposed anti-government Ku Klux Klan member Louis Beam)] [sic] In February 1992, not quite a year into the operation, the focus of PATCON shifted. The agent posing as Dave Rossi arranged an introduction to Thomas Posey, the leader of the Alabama group, Civilian Material Assistance (CMA). CMA had its origins as an anti-Communist group helping the Contras in the Nicaraguan civil war. It had murky connections to government through the Iran- Contra program, and Posey had been called to testify during congressional hearings on the scandal. When Iran-Contra wilted under public scrutiny, Posey repurposed CMA as a Patriot militia and began reaching out to like-minded organizations with an eye toward forging a Patriot alliance, according to former CMA members and FBI documents. Oklahoma City Bombing Secrets - PATCON and the Strategy of Tensions Ruby Ridge was a PATCON operation. Waco was a PATCON operation. And so, too, I believe was the Oklahoma City Bombing. After watching these news broadcast excerpts, it is very difficult to come to any other conclusion, but that McVeigh's 'truck bomb' was little more than a decoy for an FBI-run false-flag terror operation - for which they were already poised in nearby hotels to emerge as the 'heroes'. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Flashback From Sunday, February 3, 2013 ...Hewitt said investigators believe the murders occurred sometime between Thursday and Saturday morning. Hewitt said the coroner will take a liver temperature to get a more accurate time of death. No neighbors reported hearing any gun shots, Hewitt said. “The gun was not silenced,” he said. “The houses are not very close together and if they are well built and insulated with all the windows and doors closed, the shots would have been muffled.” Jeff Woods, who lives directly across the street from Marshall, said he did hear strange noises late Friday night while he worked in his downstairs office. “I was working with the television on in the background when I heard an unusual noise,” Woods said. “I stopped working and went upstairs, turned the lights on and looked around. I didn’t hear anything else, so I went back downstairs. Not too long after that, I heard another strange noise. I muted the television and listened for a second without hearing anything else.” According to the NRA: "Gunshot decibel levels, measured by John S. Odess, M.D., ranged between 143.5 from a .22 short to 174.4 from a .458 Win. Mag If 4 9mm gunshots were fired at night 100 feet in your next door neighbors house would you hear it? I think so. The house on the left of Marshalls in the photo above (107ft away) is occupied by an 80 year old woman and her 82 yr old husband. It is quite likely they were both home on both THU and FRI nights, and they probably weren't hosting band practice. Further research is called for... Phillip Marshall writes: http://thebigbamboozle.tumblr.com/ I soon learned that major flight training had been conducted in the middle of the night with military and civilian airplanes in top-secret fashion. Blackwater is one of several operators that use the very airport I had run across — Pinal Airpark, a secluded desert facility near the town of Marana, Arizona, and near the former home of Saudi Arabian pilot Hani Hanjour, the hijacker pilot of American 77. I discovered that over 80 perfectly airworthy commercial airliners are scattered around the airport and heavily guarded by a mercenary army with covert Saudi ties. The opportunities are perfect to “borrow” a Boeing for unlimited and undocumented air training in the dedicated practice range over the desert. The means and the opportunity to slip hijackers in for training were all in place. Pinal Airpark: Directly north of the airpark: Someone nailed it: The media in the US is held to a pathetic standard of conduct. They should feel nothing but shame because Marshall did their job. Instead they self righteously mock him for failing to buy their line of authoritarian cheerleading. Hey media ****** it isn't impressive for you to make fun of Marshall for trying to understand why almost 3,000 people were murdered. Respecting the victims doesn't mean turning your back on them in some bizarre display of allegiance to CIA bs.
Drugs are Bad! MEDIA RELEASE PDF http://sheriff.co.calaveras.ca.us/Portals/sheriff/Press/2013/Update_Marshall_Investigation.pdf From the Wiki page: ...the FDA issued a health advisory, which warned that the prescription of bupropion and varenicline for smoking cessation has been associated with reports about unusual behaviour changes, agitation and hostility. Some patients have become depressed or have had their depression worsen, have had thoughts about suicide or dying, or have attempted suicide.[87][88] This advisory was based on the postmarket review of anti-smoking products, which identified 153 reports of the suicidal adverse events for varenicline over the first year it was marketed and 75 reports for bupropion over ten years... pretty much case closed. Impressive report. The Sheriff heard the rumblings from the peanut galleries. explosion at pentagon *Before* flight77? (Thanks Phil)
And who's to say if that's the truth? The pictures that I've seen don't show a bug-eyed whackjob like the other recent shooters. I still believe it was a hit. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken Of course they could be lying. But the one thing underlying this whole case is how stupid it would be to get rid of him by sending an assassin in the middle of the night and not only kill him but his kids. He flew a private plane recently, having a propeller come loose or something would have been easy. Blowing him and his kids away just would accomplish the opposite of silencing his message-lots more know about every theory he had as it is now. And if he really had something he was about to release, I think more sophisticated means would have been used, that wouldn't involve his kids. But maybe I'm wrong, and we've devolved to having fed hit squads killing 14 yr old girls in the middle of the night. Wouldn't surprise me at this point. Regarding his picture, I agree. He doesn't look insane. But if we are to believe the Sheriff, recent troubles were made worse by poison pills- real drugs that cause Grown Men to shoot infants. there are thousands of cases like his documented here But yeah, maybe the Sheriff is lying. Who knows.
You seem to have changed your views of the case quite a bit but interesting video. Most interesting, imo, was G.W. Bush's statements starting at 5:58 that indicate he flew by the Pentagon, in a helicopter, while it was still in flames. Also, the statement by Peter Goss starting at 5:05 that the Speaker of the House is third in line of succession to the Presidency, which is disputable. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Howdy , .... sooooooooooooooo as a person who has been around the block and knows way more than he should I must point out that someone with that chemical cocktail flowing through them would not be in a walking state let alone a state capable of committing all of the acts alleged. Down to shooting the dog. They always shoot the dog. You would think During one of these assassinations one mossad agent would say to the other cia agent "maybe we shouldn't kill the dog lest we make ourselves obvious" LOL sad sigh. __ There are only two kinds of americans left in the USA those opposed to the tyranny and those that are wrong. Resist propaganda, Support strict constitutional adherence!
Why do you say that? “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken Why do you say that? This is the "conventional" short answer, contingent upon the Speaker of the House meeting the Constitutional requirements of Presidential office per Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 (natural born citizenship, age, and residency status): Speaker of the United States House of Representatives - Wikipedia The underlined part of that sentence is somewhat confusing, since the Vice President is the President pro tempore of the U.S. Senate. Presumably, it means that the Speaker of the House is [Edit to add: if Constitutionally qualified] second in the line of succession, ahead of whoever is [Edit to add: if Constitutionally qualified] the replacement President pro tempore of the U.S. Senate when that role is vacated by a Vice President being installed in the Presidency. [Edit to add: Vice Presidents must be Constitutionally qualified for the Presidency.] These are some sources pertinent to the Presidential line of succession issue and Constitutionality or lack thereof beyond a Vice President, age concerns, etc.: Presidential Succession Act - Wikipedia [1792, 1886, 1947, 20th and 25th Amendments] Additional info on Article II, Section 1, Clauses 5 and 6 Edited to include the noted bracketed inserts on Constitutional qualifications. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Adding another note here on Bandar Bush: 9-11 Philip Marshall and His Two children Silenced for Telling the truth -- apfn.org ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
My own government hates me, and all I can do is laugh about it. F**k em!
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Correction: Porter Goss Adding some additional notes here on Porter Goss, the alleged 9/11 hijackers, suspect connections, etc. Post #197 above: CIA's Porter Goss and the 9/11 cover up -- YouTube video, 15 minutes 9-11 Philip Marshall and His Two children Silenced for Telling the truth -- apfn.org Renovation to revolution: Was the Pentagon attacked from within? -- June 2012 article 9 11 Prior Knowledge Porter Goss Statements 8 10 2004 ABC -- YouTube video, 4.5 minutes No objection from me on his opposition to an Intel "Czar" but in this 15 minute YouYube video, Porter Goss Ex CIA Director on Camp Ashraf Paris 20 Jan 2012, Goss pushes for the delisting of the MEK/Mujahedeen-e-Kalq as an "Iranian Dissident" terror group as if they're more like displaced refugees and wonders why they were being listed as terrorists. Having been in Intel, Americans might expect he'd know that they not only participated in the 1979 U.S. Embassy takeover in Tehran, among other notorieties, but have also killed Americans. He mentions Camp Ashraf in Iraq -- a compound where thousands of them have prospered as a protected class. They even have their own lobbyists to campaign in America on their behalf and against Iran. One of their leaders has the Hebraic name of Maryam and this is a description of their compound as reported at the site of Zionist Daniel Pipes: Other reporters speak of a park with an artificial lake, sculptures, etc. But a New York Times article about the documentary, Iraq for Sale: The War Profiteers (2006) reports this: Soda said in that movie to be made locally; most likely in the MEK's Camp Ashraf. More on that issue and connection probability in the first 4 minutes of this 7.5 minute YouTube video: REALIST NEWS - Iraq for sale documentary everyone needs to see ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
America's real government is the Constitution, not the Secessionist transients who don't work for it but against it. I think you can be assured that it doesn't hate you. ;) ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Excerpts from a mild and stunted report on the MEK's terrorism: Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MEK) - The Investigative Project on Terrorism During the 1970s, the MEK killed U.S. military personnel and U.S. civilians working on defense projects in Tehran and supported the takeover in 1979 of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran. And there begins the Iran-Contra saga, basically, that factors into the Philip Marshall case, along with Barry Seal and Porter Goss of Operation 40. undergrounddocumentaries.com -- COVER UP: Behind the Iran-Contra Affair (Full Version): Strikingly relevant to current events. COVER UP: Behind the Iran-Contra Affair -- YouTube, 1:12:23 At 11:05, Reagan deal with Iran before 1980 election to send money and arms there in exchange for Iran agreeing to delay the release of our 52 hostages an additional 76 days; Reagan's campaign was afraid Carter would successfully bring them home [what was called the October Surprise] and win the election -- Barbara Honegger, member of Reagan-Bush campaign in 1980 56 hostages taken captive in 1979; 52? released after 14 months on the day of Ronald Reagan's inauguration At 14:34, Former President of Iran, Bani Sadr -- docs showing written orders for shipment of American parts and weapons to Iran through an Israeli owned company. More Americans were kidnapped during Reagan's Presidency. At 15:58, Jerry Levin allegedly taken hostage in Lebanon in March of 1984 and held for 7 months, then allowed to escape after his wife's negotiations with the Syrian government. She claims the Reagan agenda was to Iran. At 17:13-17:36, Sis Levin (wife of alleged hostage Jerry Levin) says: At 17:36-18:00, Honegger claims the Reagan-Bush administration was allied with the Ayatolla Kohmeini regime from the beginning and behind the scenes because Reagan feared a Soviet invasion of Iran. [My note: the Ayatolla was reportedly a British citizen who lived in France for some time] At 18:00, Ollie North states that he and Director Casey thought using "the Ayatolla's money" to support the Nicaraguan resistance was a right idea. Edited for punctuation, spelling and spacing. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
You're right of course; speaker is second in line behind veep. Bad math here... “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken Bad math here... I'm more of the opinion that it was due to the aftermath of misdirection about it by Porter Goss. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
This porter goss guy is quite a piece of work. That video should be seen right before or after the pentagon video: It's more than a bit interesting that this guy, the co-chair of the original 911 investigation- and the co-sponsor of the patriot act, was meeting with the pakistani ex-ISI chief that financed the hijacker of flt 77--on the morning of 911. But the people that bring it up are "conspiracy theorists". Punks like this Porter Goss eat decent people for breakfast.
actually the first thing that I thought when I read the headline was - here's another anti-depressant caused murder/mayhem incident. Then as I read more, it became even more curious. But really, if someone was trying to silence him this was a very dumb way to do it. The Sheriff's report was pretty convincing- if he really did buy that particular brand of bullet, and he's on tape, and they found those clothes, etc etc etc, and combine all that with antidepressants mixed with other drugs, well- unless someone comes out with a more credible theory, for now I'm going with the Sheriff's report- being well aware it could be chock full of lies or half truths. If there weren't specific cases documented that are identical (more or less) to Phillip Marshall, I'd probably be more skeptical. See; Annex- the legal cases at this link: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1564177/ If you read that paper at the NIH it's clear that if he was taking antidepressants it is not unusual for him to do what he did. Tomorrow, everything could be different!
That the neighbors heard no gun-shots says 'hit' to me. That, and the killing of poochie. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken One less witness... Aquila: It's more than a bit interesting that this guy [Porter Goss], the co- chair of the original 911 investigation- and the co-sponsor of the patriot act, was meeting with the pakistani ex-ISI chief that financed the hijacker of flt 77--on the morning of 911. But the people that bring it up are "conspiracy theorists". Yes. Will try to post more about that later. For now, at 2:05 of that video, Goss says that he got to the office of the Speaker of the House, Dennis Hastert, just as the plane hit the Pentagon; and he [talks at 1:53] of wanting the Capitol evacuated. From that statement about the timing of his arrival at Hastert's office, it can be presumed that the clip of him in a press interview at the beginning of the video (with booming and plane sound effects) was not filmed during the Pentagon attack. Speaker Hastert makes a critical statement at 2:47 about adjourning the House. The question is, in the paniced conditions of the day, did he adjourn it sine die? -- "without appointing a day on which to appear or assemble again."[2]; Reference: Adjournment sine die. That reference also notes an adjournment sine die of the 110th Congress in 2008. What's remarkable about that and possibly the 9/11 adjournment by Hastert is that to adjourn the legislature sine die with no appointed time to reassemble has the connotation/effect of dissolving Congress, not just dismissing it for a recess. Edited sentence 3 of paragraph 1. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
The 9/11 Breakfast Club (R-FL) Congressman and Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Porter Goss - Wikipedia; includes linked info for Senator Jon Kyl (R-AZ) and former FL Governor/Senator Bob Graham (D-FL), Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. Edited to include first parenthesis. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
During the 1970s, the MEK killed U.S. military personnel and U.S. civilians working on defense projects in Tehran and supported the takeover in 1979 of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran. And there begins the Iran-Contra saga, basically, that factors into the Philip Marshall case, along with Barry Seal and Porter Goss of Operation 40. See also the manufactured Arc of Crisis strategy of tension, spanning decades: Empire, Energy and Al-Qaeda: The Anglo-American Terror Network Lewis wrote a 1992 article in Foreign Affairs, the journal of the Council on Foreign Relations, titled, “Rethinking the Middle East.” In this article, Lewis raised the prospect of another policy towards the Middle East in the wake of the end of the Cold War and beginnings of the New World Order, “which could even be precipitated by fundamentalism, is what has of late become fashionable to call ‘Lebanonization.’ Most of the states of the Middle East – Egypt is an obvious exception – are of recent and artificial construction and are vulnerable to such a process. If the central power is sufficiently weakened, there is no real civil society to hold the polity together, no real sense of common national identity or overriding allegiance to the nation-state. The state then disintegrates – as happened in Lebanon – into a chaos of squabbling, feuding, fighting sects, tribes, regions and parties.”[28] ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
2. Iran-Contra Affair 1. Old hand CIA operatives here. 2. They were running Iran-Contra out of the airport at Mena, Arkansas when Bill Clinton was governor. He likely knew this was going on since I doubt they would run an operation in his state without informing him they were doing so. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
Hit the nail on the head with this one. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
www.hiddenmysteries.org/t...cles/crimes-clinton.shtml chimpy and bucky make me really miss the scumball... “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken I don't agree with many of his "details;" but I think his demise wasn't so much in the facts he presented; versus his ability to quickly and thoroughly "convince" skeptics. As a contrast, I've always been convinced that the demise of MLK was his ability to quickly and dynamically 'influence' the public; add that his speaking style was remarkably close to a certain scary German orator; of infamy - with obviously comparable effect. Similarly, JFK & RFK were unaffordable liabilities. For a 'reasonable' historical timeline, I look at 1960 as the "emergence" date of what Daddy Bush later referred to (profusely) as the "New World Order."
Something new from the Union Democrat: The mother of two teenagers, slain more than two months ago by their father, revealed details of the downward spiral of their marriage in an exclusive interview and various legal records she provided to The Union Democrat. Sean Plummer married Philip Marshall on April 14, 1995. In the earliest years of their marriage, there were no signs of Marshall’s dark side, she said. “He was not mentally ill when I met him,” Plummer said. “He was very charming and funny … everybody loved him. I was fooled, and that’s how good these people are.” About a year after their son, Alex, was born in November 1995, Plummer said she “started seeing signs of anger … he couldn’t find something (so) he’d just tear things up.” According to a Jan. 7, 2009, treatment summary written by Florida psychiatrist Dr. Liana Urfer, and provided by Plummer to The Union Democrat, Marshall was diagnosed with bipolar affective disorder after “a period of apparent manic symptoms occurring in 2001 to 2003.” In 2002, Marshall, a professional airline pilot, “was smoking a lot of (marijuana) … and absolutely should not have been flying a plane,” Plummer recalled. Urfer wrote that prescriptions of Wellbutrin, Lamictal and Provigil were successively given to Marshall then discontinued “due to lack of perceived efficacy.” She saw “no evidence of active manic or hypomanic symptoms” during treatment from September 2006 to December 2007. When the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks occurred, Plummer said Marshall developed an obsession. “I think whenever you get that intent on something … you start alienating yourself,” she said. “That was his whole life.” Marshall went on to research and write two books theorizing Saudi Arabian and United States government collusion in the attacks — 2008’s “False Flag 911: How Bush, Cheney and the Saudis Created the Post-911 World” and “The Big Bamboozle: 9/11 and the War on Terror,” published in February 2012. The United Airlines pilot injured himself on Sept. 3, 2004, carrying several pieces of luggage up a jetway and stairs when he experienced a pop in his left knee, according to records from a Redwood City clinic. A February 2006 visit to the same clinic revealed non-work-related degenerative damage to his hip. He took the painkiller Vicodin at that time and went on to have knee surgery in November 2006 as well as an injection to block the hip pain. Marshall made brief attempts to return to work but last flew for United on Nov. 30, 2005, effectively ending his 16-year career with the airline. A Nov. 17, 2006, letter to Marshall from United stated the airline began to pay him a $9,008 monthly disability benefit in December 2005. The family moved regularly. In retrospect, Plummer said she can look back and see it as an aspect of Marshall’s controlling nature. She worked as a buyer for Nordstrom and started her own clothing line among jobs at various stops. “Whenever I would do really well, we would move,” Plummer said. The couple separated briefly in 2006 while living in Florida. Plummer said Marshall convinced her then to see a psychotherapist. The therapist helped in an unexpected way. “All the sudden I figured out it wasn’t me,” she said, adding the therapist described Marshall to her as a “charismatic sociopath” and a narcissist. Though not a formal diagnosis, this is how Plummer views Marshall’s mental illness. “This is a charismatic sociopath,” Plummer said. “Period. The end. There is no medication for that.” Marshall obsessed about having control and bullied people, including herself and their children, Alex and Macaila, in different ways, Plummer said. “Phil treated Alex totally different from how he treated Macaila,” she said. “She always stood up for herself. She would never leave my side. He was scared of Macaila and he never showed Alex his true colors (regarding) me. With Alex, it was more like ‘You’re too short to play this sport or that sport.’ … Macaila, he basically just ignored her for years.” Later in 2006, the family moved together to the Forest Meadows home where Philip Marshall ended his and their children’s lives. Plummer said she then found out Marshall was having an affair with a woman who lived in Murphys. The tension in their marriage peaked in 2008. Plummer often refers to that year as a shorthand for the ugliest point in their family’s history prior to the double murder-suicide. The couple legally separated on Aug. 15, 2008, according to court records. Plummer moved into a home in the Fieldstone subdivision of Murphys, while Marshall remained at the Forest Meadows house. Plummer said Marshall had cut off all financial support to her for six months and she found part-time work at a candle shop in downtown Murphys. She relied on a support group of dedicated friends and family, she said. On Nov. 11, 2008, a Calaveras County sheriff’s deputy arrested Plummer on suspicion of petty theft, trespassing and possession of drugs without a prescription after Marshall hid in a shower and videotaped her removing his painkillers from the bathroom of the Forest Meadows home. Plummer claims she took the pills to give to her lawyer as proof of Marshall’s drug use. She spent two days in jail, and charges were dropped nearly a year later after she attended Narcotics Anonymous meetings. On Nov. 21, 2012, Calaveras County Superior Court Judge John Martin signed an order granting the couple’s mediated agreement to share custody of the children and have Marshall begin to pay $2,400 a month in child support and $1,000 in temporary spousal support. On Dec. 5, Marshall allegedly slapped Erin Chamberlain, Plummer’s sister, and was arrested on suspicion of domestic violence. No charges were ever filed. Plummer’s friend Deana Richter was there when the Dec. 5 incident occurred and recalled in an email to Plummer last week that “Phil pointed his finger at me like a gun and smiled. After that he would do that to me whenever he saw me. It was disturbing when I would see him with the kids, they would run up to me with hugs, like they always did, and I would look over at him and he was pointing that finger gun at me.” Another friend, Sheila Krpan, said she never liked Marshall and could see disturbing aspects of his personality. “Phil was very, very good … at manipulating people and getting people to buy his side of the story,” she said. Despite all the turmoil of 2008, Plummer dropped the divorce proceedings the following year. She said Marshall had become suicidal. “It’s hard. Being a mom you know, you just want to be a family,” she said. “I didn’t want the kids to lose their dad. He was on his best behavior a month and then he started with the bullying (again) … if I left with the kids, it would have been called kidnapping. We dropped the proceedings because it was too gnarly. I was winning and (Marshall) said I was winning.” Though their relationship remained strained, “I took (Phil) to Istanbul with me,” Plummer said, recalling a trip done as part of Broads Abroad, her business buying goods overseas for domestic retailers. “I had him here for the holidays. I included him fully in our life because I never wanted to go back to 2008.” Plummer was back in Turkey when she learned of her children’s deaths at Marshall’s hands sometime between Jan. 31 and Feb. 2. As she holds plastic bags containing the children’s ashes, she recalls her first thoughts upon receiving them. “I was literally thinking, ‘Can I put them together again?’” she said. Raised on beaches from Southern California to the Spanish island of Ibiza, Plummer said she found something comforting in the ashes’ appearance. “It’s sand,” she said. “The whitest of white.” Marshall also killed the dog Plummer had bought for Macaila, a Shih Tzu named Sukie. The dog, like Macaila, usually lived with Plummer. Alex split time more evenly between his parents. Plummer said just the right set of circumstances had to come into play to put them all there the weekend they were killed. While Plummer was in Turkey, Macaila would have typically stayed with friends, but she went to her father’s house after a golf cart mishap that left her legs badly scraped up, Plummer said. “I thought that bullet would be for me always,” she said. Plummer said Marshall devised a plan to hurt her even worse than just killing her. “I had become too strong. I became the woman he married again,” she said. “There is no category for that (act). This is not something I would have expected ever … he loved his kids. He loved that dog. (But) he loved himself more than anything.” “He couldn’t control (Alex) anymore. He could never control Macaila,” she said. “He couldn’t control me anymore.” Plummer said toxicology reports of moderate levels of alcohol in the system of each child surprised her. “Alex would never, ever have anything to drink in front of Phil,” she said. “He set Alex up. He probably said something like ‘You’re a big guy, c’mon.’” Records provided by Plummer showed the Forest Meadows home was financially distressed. The couple had “negative equity” of $63,000 in the house, according to a letter to the couple from a mediator in their divorce proceedings, which Plummer renewed in October 2012. Marshall also left records at the crime scene indicating $67,000 in unspecified debts, sheriff’s officials said. Plummer said she knows “for a fact” Marshall told friends she was suicidal and he expected her to discover the bodies and kill herself after learning of his act. Friends of Alex and Macaila saw Philip Marshall’s body from a front window Feb. 2 and called police, who discovered the children’s and dog’s bodies upon entry. Plummer said she has paid little mind to conspiracy theories circulating online and even picked up by Iranian television that say the U.S. government covered up a murder of Marshall and his children. Plummer did say she thinks Marshall knew those theories would abound in light of his books. “He wanted me to see (the crime scene). He was the epitome of a bully. Society helped him be a bully, not just society but government … sure, yeah, give him a gun. Let him buy ammo,” she said. “I’ll never be able to be inside his head. I’ll never be able to know for sure … (but) he missed a little something about me. I have too much faith in God.” Plummer said she did not learn until long after Marshall bought the 9mm Glock he used to kill himself and their children that he possessed it. “He said pilots had to have them for work,” she said. Marshall retained his pilot’s license at the time of his death despite his grounding by United. New Orleans media reported he flew planes over the Saints’ practice facility and MetLife Stadium in New Jersey last summer carrying a banner to protest the NFL’s suspension of Saints coach Sean Payton. Plummer said she will campaign for increased gun control and better treatment of mental illness. “I need to use my voice for Macaila. I need to use my voice for Alex,” she said. “Just because they’re physically gone doesn’t mean they’re gone.” Plummer left her rented Greenhorn Creek home this week to move back to Southern California and be closer to other family members. Philip Marshall’s toxicology screen showed the painkillers hydrocodone and morphine in his blood as well as hydroxybupropion, a derivative of the antidepressant bupropion, according to the Calaveras County Sheriff’s Office. A property report of items seized from Marshall’s home by investigators after the killings lists numerous prescription bottles belonging to Marshall: a bottle of hydrocodone mixed with Tylenol; two bottles of bupropion; and one or two bottles each of the antidepressants amitriptylene, escitalopram, aripiprazole and bupropion, some of which were empty. Plummer said the Sheriff’s Office has provided her the name of the laboratory that still has possession of Marshall’s computer and her children’s cell phones. She is working to have them returned. She also expects drugs seized from Marshall’s home to be tested to help determine what effects they may have had on his mind when combined. “It’s going to take a lot of people to figure out what went wrong,” she said. http://www.uniondemocrat.com/News/Local-News/Plummer-says-killer-husband-controlling-sociopath
it's buy-partisan now, thanks to the creator of the Drug Czar, Joey Biden.
This sounds totally bogus to me.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken The audience, at 1:45, collectively look like they're all thinking, "Are you shitting me? and what the hell are you talking about?" “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken Thanks; I missed this one. Unfortunately, it's obviously the identical message as Daddy Bush. It's not good news.
2. Iran-Contra Affair 1. Old hand CIA operatives here. 2. They were running Iran-Contra out of the airport at Mena, Arkansas when Bill Clinton was governor. He likely knew this was going on since I doubt they would run an operation in his state without informing him they were doing so. ;) Iran-Contra seems to be the link between several people discussed in this topic who are reportedly dead or presumed dead under somewhat mysterious circumstances or by alleged assassination: Barry Seal, Prince Bandar Bush, Hank Asher, Philip Marshall. Marshall's case serves the Anti-2nd Amendment agendists and also those opposed to 9/11 Truth investigations. He sort of reminds me of the character, Gabriel Singer, in the Bruce Willis movie, RED. Frank Moses (Bruce Willis), a former black-ops CIA agent, is retired and living a quiet life in a Cleveland suburb. His life is disrupted when a hit squad raids his house in the middle of the night. the title is derived from the designation of the status of agent Frank Moses (Bruce Willis), meaning "Retired, Extremely Dangerous". The film was released on October 15, 2010. A sequel, is scheduled for release on July 19, 2013. Frank first goes to New Orleans and finds his terminally ill mentor Joe Matheson (Morgan Freeman), living in a retirement community. They then track down Marvin Boggs (John Malkovich), also a former black ops agent and a paranoid conspiracy theorist, to provide more information. Marvin tells them that the names on the [hit] list are all connected to a 1981 secret mission in Guatemala in which Frank and Marvin participated, and that one person, [pilot] Gabriel Singer (James Remar), is still alive. The trio track down Singer, who tells them that the mission involved extracting a person from a village and that everybody on the list has been killed to silence them. Singer is then assassinated by a helicopter-borne machine-gunner, and the team escapes ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
It can only happen in the movies. But, I've lead an interesting life. Not as complex as in the movie, but darn close. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
Speaker Hastert makes a critical statement at 2:47 about adjourning the House. The question is, in the paniced conditions of the day, did he adjourn it sine die? -- "without appointing a day on which to appear or assemble again."[2]; Reference: Adjournment sine die. That reference also notes an adjournment sine die of the 110th Congress in 2008. What's remarkable about that and possibly the 9/11 adjournment by Hastert is that to adjourn the legislature sine die with no appointed time to reassemble has the connotation/effect of dissolving Congress, not just dismissing it for a recess. Cross-referencing pilotsfor911truth.org link at Post #266 of 4um Title: 9 11 Fake Video Stars The J Star Clones – Why Covert Operation’s Cointel Must Have ‘Fake’ Video and ‘No Planes’: Excerpts: http://www.gpoaccess.gov/c record/01crpgs.html http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/ge...mp;position=all [accessible at the pilotsfor911truthpage] RECESS 0952 PRAYER RECESS 1003 AFTER RECESS Noted for procedural and evacuation research, etc. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Excerpts: goss is officially on record as being on the floor of the House at 9:52am, where he calls everyone to a quick prayer: http://www.gpoaccess.gov/c record/01crpgs.html RECESS 0952 PRAYER RECESS 1003 AFTER RECESS Noted for procedural and evacuation research, etc. I think that is very strange and this is why: Timeline for the day of the September 11 attacks - Wikipedia [Relevant summary with bracketed inserts by me for the House of Representatives info] 9:03:02: Flight 175 crashes into the South Tower 9:08: The FAA bans all takeoffs nationwide for flights going to or through New York Center airspace. [9:20 The House of Representatives is recessed for 40 minutes until 10:00.] 9:39: Fox News Channel reports, "We -- we are hearing -- right now that another explosion that -- has taken place. At the Pentagon." 9:42: the FAA issues the execution order for SCATANA grounding all air traffic over the United States and diverting any incoming international traffic to alternate destinations. 9:43: The White House and the Capitol are evacuated and closed. 9:45: United States airspace is shut down. No civilian aircraft are allowed to take off, and all aircraft in flight are ordered to land at the nearest airport as soon as possible. [9:52 After the Capitol is in evacuation for 9 minutes, Porter Goss as Speaker pro tempore ends the House recess 8 minutes early. The House stays in session for 1 minute, supposedly for a prayer -- 32 minutes after recess had initially been called -- but who is still there?] [9:53 The House of Representatives goes into recess again, but this time is subject to the call of the Chair] -- i.e. not Speaker of the House, Hastert, or the appointed Speaker pro tempore acting in his place...meaning that during the minute that the House was recalled to session (supposedly for a prayer but more than half an hour after the House had recessed and after evacuation/closing of the Capitol was being implemented for 9 minutes), the status of the House of Representatives was seemingly changed somehow to Committee of the Whole mode. See Wikipedia excerpt below for more on that.] 9:58:59 The South Tower of the World Trade Center collapses [10:03 The 2nd House recess ended after 10 minutes (but 3 minutes after the 1st recess was scheduled to end), when it was apparently re-called to order at this time by the Chair. If anyone had returned by 10:00, thinking that was when the recess they had heard called was scheduled to be over, they might have been told that the House was in an indefinite recess period due to the crisis and then left again -- to await notification from "the Chair" to return whenever conditions had improved enough. Legislation could then have been passed by stealth in "Committee" mode without a quorum. However, an indefinite recess amounts to adjournment sine die (without a set time to return), which has the connotation/effect of dissolving Congress. Reference: Post #220 above.] 10:03:11 United Airlines Flight 93 is crashed 10:10 Part of the west side of the Pentagon collapses. 10:28:22 The North Tower of the World Trade Center collapses. 10:50:19 Five stories of part of the Pentagon collapse due to the fire. Speaker of the United States House of Representatives - Wikipedia On the floor of the House, the presiding officer is always addressed as "Mister Speaker" or "Madam Speaker," even if it is a Speaker pro tempore, [sic] When the House resolves itself into a Committee of the Whole, the Speaker designates a member to preside over the Committee as the Chairman, who is addressed as "Mister Chairman" or "Madam Chairwoman." Committee of the Whole (United States House of Representatives) - Wikipedia Procedurally, the Committee of the Whole differs from the House of Representatives even though they have identical membership. The Committee of the Whole only requires 100 members for a quorum, while only 25 members are required to force a recorded rather than voice vote. In the version of the Committee of the Whole that existed in the British House of Commons, the original use of this committee was to debate bills privately and prevent a recorded vote from being taken. It is normally invoked to give initial consideration of important legislation, including bills for raising revenue, and serves to expedite the process since debate over amendment occurs under a special five-minute rule. The House and the Committee of the Whole do not operate at the same time; rather, to consider bills, the House must resolve itself into the Committee of the Whole. To dissolve itself, the Committee of the Whole must "rise and report with a recommendation". The Committee of the Whole can recommend amendments to any bill. The House must then approve these amendments before the amendments are added to the final bill. It allows bills and resolutions to be considered without adhering to all the formal rules of a House session, such as needing a quorum of 218. Edited for spelling. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
9/11: Is this AA Flight 77? And what is this explosion? - YouTube [Link set to start at 1:47] 1:47-3:04 -- Hastert and Goss statements, which conflict with the reported timelines noted above at Post #235. Also, in the first 22 seconds, Goss makes a statement that contradicts assertions by officials like Condoleezza Rice that the use of a plane in a terrorist attack was not a possibility that had been considered previously. Edited for formatting and timestamping. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
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#197. To: All (#196)
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Phil Marshall cast much suspicion on Porter Goss in his most recent book “The Big Bamboozle”. Goss (who was later appointed to CIA Director by President Bush, only to mysteriously resign shortly afterwards, no reason given) was one of those present at that infamous breakfast meeting at the Capitol, on the morning of September 11, 2001, with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of the Pakistani ISI. According to the FBI, Indian Intelligence and several press reports, the Mahmoud Ahmad was instrumental in providing financial support to the 9/11 terrorists. Ahmad had allegedly ordered the transfer of $100,000 to the presumed 9/11 ring-leader Mohamed Atta.
From Bloggulator
Edit to add: There's a whole bunch of stuff about Operation 40 at Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_40
#198. To: Aquila (#197)
#199. To: Aquila (#197)
#200. To: noone222, Aquila, wudidiz, All, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#86)
At 1:01:23 and approx. 1:22:00 of the Coast to Coast video that noone222 posted [at #39], Philip Marshall talks about Prince Bandar Bush and funding by him through Riggs Bank. He mentions too that Bandar Bush is/was from the same hometown as alleged Flt. 77 hijacker-pilot on 9/11, Hani Hanjour.
By M. Hatfield: The statement by Prince Bandar that lying and deception are all part of the political process and one accepts it or gets out of the game really sums up the global politics of the post 9/11 world.
In 1990, the FBI began picking up on rumors about an effort to reconstitute a notorious terrorist-criminal gang known as The Order.
PATCON is an acronym for "Patriot Conspiracy", a Clinton-Reno- Holder, FBI and ATF undercover operation. PATCON was designed to infiltrate and incite the milita and evangelical Christians to violence so that the Department of Justice could crush them.
#201. To: wudidiz (#0)
A Murphys man killed his two children...(before any hard evidence he was convicted by the Calaveras Enterprise)
http://www.calaverasenterprise.com/news/article_71f9b8da-6e27-11e2-99e8-001a4bcf887a.html 
And just another reminder: 
One would think journalists would have some loyalty to the people murdered on 9/11. Meaning the best way to honor the victims would be to find out why they were murdered. Instead we have a media mindset of arrogance and authoritarian cheerleading. To the point where Marshall is derided as some sort of whacky conspiracy nut for daring to claim the Saudis and CIA were involved in facilitating 9/11. This just so happens to be supported by public record information. But because it is not establishment consensus the media pretends it is conspiracy nuttery. I read articles, blogs and message boards about the Marshall murders and it is very sad the way many people are evidently pleased by their allegiance to a government approved 9/11 narrative...
#202. To: wudidiz (#0)
Uudate: Marshall Investigation
Contact: Sgt Chris Hewitt
Release Date: 03/29/13
...Phillip Marshal's blood sample contained .08 mg/L hydrocodone (pain reliever/narcotic), .02 mg/L morphine (pain reliever/narcotic), and .80 mg/L hydroxybupropion (anti-depressant). Alcoholic beverages, including a bottle of whiskey and an open l2-pack of beer, were found inside the Marshall home.
youtube.com/watch?v=CwBX_XPTrrE
#203. To: Aquila, GreyLmist, 4 (#202)
...Phillip Marshal's blood sample contained .08 mg/L hydrocodone (pain reliever/narcotic), .02 mg/L morphine (pain reliever/narcotic), and .80 mg/L hydroxybupropion (anti-depressant). Alcoholic beverages, including a bottle of whiskey and an open l2-pack of beer, were found inside the Marshall home.
#204. To: Lod (#203)
And who's to say if that's the truth? The pictures that I've seen don't show a bug-eyed whackjob like the other recent shooters. I still believe it was a hit.
ssristories.com
at least every week another otherwise "sane" person takes some of these antidepressants and blows away a few members of their family and then themselves. Search father murder suicide, happens all the time. Just heard about one like that in Washington. It's these drugs, seriously. That's what's causing our troops to commit suicide in the numbers they are too.
#205. To: Aquila, *9-11* (#202)
explosion at pentagon *Before* flight77? (Thanks Phil)
youtube.com/watch?v=CwBX_XPTrrE
#206. To: Aquila (#202)
...Phillip Marshal's blood sample contained .08 mg/L hydrocodone (pain reliever/narcotic), .02 mg/L morphine (pain reliever/narcotic), and .80 mg/L hydroxybupropion (anti-depressant). Alcoholic beverages, including a bottle of whiskey and an open l2-pack of beer, were found inside the Marshall home.
#207. To: GreyLmist (#205)
...the Speaker of the House is third in line of succession to the Presidency, which is disputable.
#208. To: Lod (#207)
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...the Speaker of the House is third in line of succession to the Presidency, which is disputable.
The Speaker is second in the United States presidential line of succession, after the Vice President and ahead of the President pro tempore of the U.S. Senate.[2]
United States presidential line of succession - Wikipedia | 3 U.S.C. § 19
#209. To: All (#86)
Like Philip Marshall, Bandar Bush was involved in Iran Contra.
One Saudi official in particular, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, Saudi Ambassador to the United States from 1983 to 2005, was quickly traced to direct funding of the hijackers, through cashier’s checks, not from him he would say, but from his wife.
#210. To: GreyLmist (#209)
#211. To: All (#205)
the statement by Peter Goss
Goss (who was later appointed to CIA Director by President Bush, only to mysteriously resign shortly afterwards, no reason given) was one of those present at that infamous breakfast meeting at the Capitol, on the morning of September 11, 2001, with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of the Pakistani ISI. [sic] At that September 11 meeting were three lawmakers Bob Graham, Porter Goss and Jon Kyl who were part of the Congressional delegation to Pakistan. Also present at this meeting were Pakistan’s ambassador to the U.S. Maleeha Lodhi and several members of the Senate and House Intelligence committees. This meeting was described by one press report as a “follow-up meeting” to that held in Pakistan in late August.
Dr. David Graham poisoned; claimed he met 3 of the 9/11 hijackers in Shreveport, Louisiana a year before the attacks
Phil Marshall’s first wife, who lives in New Orleans now, contacted that paper with a screed against her husband. She hasn’t seen him since 1998, since they were divorced. She lives in New Orleans, he moved to the West Coast, [sic] and this individual who the first wife’s married too is the…is an auditor for the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, down in Louisiana, that’s run by the Energy Department, but that we know that reserve is tied in directly to the oil industry, and y’know, when we talk oil, we’re talking Cheney, we’re talking Bush.
Whether it was cordite or something else, there were a number of highly credible witnesses that reported secondary explosions going off in and around the impact hole for nearly an hour after the aircraft crashed.[80] One of these was the CIA agent turned Florida congressman, Porter Goss, in whose district the alleged hijackers received their training. Goss went on to lead the first official inquiry into the events of 9/11.[81]
Goss opposes 9/11 Commission reform recommendation of an Intel Czar that would outrank the CIA Director as just another layer bureaucracy
It has shops, a swimming pool, an ice cream store, a bakery and a soda factory that makes a cola-and orange-flavored drink locals call Ashraf Cola.
outsourced food services that allow Halliburton to charge soldiers $45 for a six-pack of soda.
#212. To: Dakmar (#210)
My own government hates me, and all I can do is laugh about it. F**k em!
#213. To: All, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#211)
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in this 15 minute YouYube video, Porter Goss Ex CIA Director on Camp Ashraf Paris 20 Jan 2012, Goss pushes for the delisting of the MEK/Mujahedeen-e-Kalq
A Marxist element of the MEK murdered several of the Shah's U.S. security advisers prior to the Islamic Revolution, and the group helped guard the U.S. Embassy after Islamic students seized it in 1979.
"Many of us think, in looking at it, that if there had not been hostages, they would've had to have been created because, if the agenda to get arms to Iran were discovered, the only thing the American people would take as an excuse would be the very human element of a very human President weeping over hostages."
#214. To: GreyLmist (#208)
#215. To: Lod (#214)
You're right of course; speaker is second in line behind veep.
#216. To: GreyLmist (#213)
Porter Goss Ex CIA Director on Camp Ashraf Paris 20 Jan 2012
#217. To: GreyLmist (#205)
You seem to have changed your views of the case quite a bit
In 1998, a new family doctor, unaware of this adverse reaction to fluoxetine, prescribed paroxetine 20 mg to DS, for what was diagnosed as an anxiety disorder. Two days later having had, it is believed, two doses of medication, DS using a gun put three bullets each through the heads of his wife, his daughter who was visiting, and his nine-month-old granddaughter before killing himself.
#218. To: Aquila (#217)
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#219. To: Lod (#218)
the killing of poochie
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy
#220. To: Aquila, All (#216)
(Edited)
9-11 Is this AA Flight 77 And what is this explosion - YouTube posted at #216
#221. To: All (#220)
(Edited)
#222. To: All (#213)
A Marxist element of the MEK murdered several of the Shah's U.S. security advisers prior to the Islamic Revolution, and the group helped guard the U.S. Embassy after Islamic students seized it in 1979.
Bernard Lewis was a former British intelligence officer and historian who is infamous for explaining Arab discontent towards the West as not being rooted in a reaction toward imperialism, but rather that it is rooted in Islam; in that Islam is incompatible with the West, and that they are destined to clash, using the term, “Clash of Civilizations.” For decades, “Lewis played a critical role as professor, mentor, and guru to two generations of Orientalists, academics, U.S. and British intelligence specialists, think tank denizens, and assorted neoconservatives.” In the 1980s, Lewis “was hobnobbing with top Department of Defense officials.”[27] He was also one of the originators, along with Brzezinski, of the “Arc of Crisis” strategy employed in the late 1970s.
#223. To: GreyLmist (#213)
1. Barry Seal and Porter Goss
#224. To: Lod (#184)
it was what he was writing and telling that was his undoing.
#225. To: BTP Holdings, 4 (#224)
more on clinton, mena, cocaine, women, etc -
#226. To: BTP Holdings, christine, *9-11* (#224)
#227. To: All (#217)
Plummer says killer husband controlling ‘sociopath’
Written by Sean Janssen, The Union Democrat April 19, 2013 06:53 am
More concern about the gun than the drugs. Typical American circa 2013.
#228. To: SKYDRIFTER (#226)
Bush later referred to (profusely) as the "New World Order."
#229. To: Aquila (#227)
#230. To: Aquila (#228)
too funny -
#231. To: Aquila, *9-11* (#228)
#232. To: BTP Holdings, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#223)
1. Barry Seal and Porter Goss
Excerpts:
#233. To: GreyLmist (#232)
The trio track down Singer, who tells them that the mission involved extracting a person from a village and that everybody on the list has been killed to silence them. Singer is then assassinated by a helicopter-borne machine-gunner, and the team escapes
#234. To: Aquila, All (#220)
9-11 Is this AA Flight 77 And what is this explosion - YouTube posted at #216
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/lofiversion/index.php?t21402.html
goss is officially on record as being on the floor of the House at 9:52am, where he calls everyone to a quick prayer:
The SPEAKER pro tempore. There
being no further requests for morning
hour debates, pursuant to clause 12,
rule I, the House will stand in recess
until 10 a.m. today.
Accordingly (at 9 o’clock and 20 minutes
a.m.) the House stood in recess
until 10 a.m. today.
AFTER RECESS
The House was called to order by the
Speaker pro tempore (Mr. GOSS) at 9
o’clock and 52 minutes a.m., thereby
terminating the recess.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Due to
the circumstances of today, the Chair
calls the House to order at this time.
The prayer will be offered by the
guest chaplain.
The Reverend Gerard Creedon, St.
Charles Borromeo Catholic Church, offered
the following prayer:
God of peace and life, send Your spirit
to heal our country; bring consolation
to all injured in today’s tragedy in
New York and Washington. Protect us
and help our leaders to lead us out of
this moment of crisis to a new day of
peace. Amen.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The
House will stand in recess subject to
the call of the Chair, pursuant to
clause 12 of rule I.
Accordingly (at 9 o’clock and 53 minutes a.m.), the House stood in recess
subject to the call of the Chair.
The recess having expired, the House
was called to order at 10 o’clock and 3
minutes a.m.
#235. To: Aquila, All, *9-11* (#234)
(Edited)
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/lofiversion/index.php?t21402.html
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/ge...mp;position=all
The SPEAKER pro tempore. There
being no further requests for morning
hour debates, pursuant to clause 12,
rule I, the House will stand in recess
until 10 a.m. today.
Accordingly (at 9 o’clock and 20 minutes
a.m.) the House stood in recess
until 10 a.m. today.
AFTER RECESS
The House was called to order by the
Speaker pro tempore (Mr. GOSS) at 9
o’clock and 52 minutes a.m., thereby
terminating the recess.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Due to
the circumstances of today, the Chair
calls the House to order at this time.
The prayer will be offered by the
guest chaplain.
The Reverend Gerard Creedon, St.
Charles Borromeo Catholic Church, offered
the following prayer:
God of peace and life, send Your spirit
to heal our country; bring consolation
to all injured in today’s tragedy in
New York and Washington. Protect us
and help our leaders to lead us out of
this moment of crisis to a new day of
peace. Amen.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The
House will stand in recess subject to
the call of the Chair, pursuant to
clause 12 of rule I.
Accordingly (at 9 o’clock and 53 minutes a.m.), the House stood in recess
subject to the call of the Chair.
The recess having expired, the House
was called to order at 10 o’clock and 3
minutes a.m. 8:46:30[10] Flight 11 crashes into the North Tower
As presiding office of the House of Representatives, the Speaker holds a variety of powers over the House but usually delegates them to another member of the majority party. The Speaker may designate any member of the House to act as Speaker pro tempore and preside over the House. [sic] The Speaker may also designate a Speaker pro tempore for special purposes, such as designating a Representative whose district is near Washington, DC to sign enrolled bills during long recesses.
In the United States House of Representatives, the Committee of the Whole, short for Committee of the Whole House on the State of the Union, is a parliamentary device in which the House of Representatives is considered one large congressional committee. The presiding officer is chosen by the Speaker of the House and is normally a member of the majority party who does not hold the chair of a standing committee.
#236. To: All (#235)
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