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Title: Why People Identify with Jordan Dorner
Source: UncleBob's Treehouse
URL Source: http://uncabob.blogspot.com/2013/02 ... entify-with-jordan-dorner.html
Published: Feb 9, 2013
Author: Bob Wallace
Post Date: 2013-02-09 19:38:04 by Turtle
Keywords: None
Views: 1671
Comments: 29

Trample, trample, trample, kick, shoot, punch, beat, murder, laugh, get away with it.

No one in his right mind agrees with Jordan Dorner murdering people, but I have met a lot of people who are living through him vicariously. They don't much care - or don't care at all - as long as he's killing police officers. They don't even much care he's murdered innocent people - because they are the relatives of people that Dorner thinks humiliated and abused him.

The next question is, of course, why are people getting a vicarious thrill out of this?

It's got to the point where many police forces are deadly corrupt. They get away with murdering innocent people, shooting or beating them to death, paralyzing them, putting them into permanent comas or anything else you can think of.

And they almost always get away with it. And they laugh and high-five each other.

That's why people are angry. And most police just don't get it. They have no comprehension that many people see them as the bad guys, because they are the bad guys.

They also don't get that humiliation is always followed by revenge. The Greeks called it Hubris followed by Nemesis. Hubris meant to originally humiliate someone in public, and they considered it so obscene they banned it from the theater. Nemesis, for all practical purposes, means "revenge."

Dorner was clearly a psychologically fragile man from the git-go. You don't take someone like that and just dump him in the street and say "bye bye." He saw it as unbearable humiliation, and now he's taking his revenge. That's a law of human nature, and many of the police are too stupid and naive to understand how human nature works.

Police officers aren't supposed to be "police" officers. They're supposed to be Peace Officers. Some are, but many aren't.

People tell me there are many "good cops" out there. Oh really? Name one "good" cop who's turned in a bad cop. Not three bad cops. Not two bad cops. One bad cop.

The last time I can remember that happening was Serpico, and his fellow cops tried to kill him.

When I was growing up police officers did not act like this. I never had a problem with the police in my hometown, even though they pulled me over once when I accidentally ran a red light at night, in the rain, during construction. They didn't even give me a ticket.

I even had two pick me up when I was hitchhiking as a teenager. So don't think I'm against the police. I'm against bad cops who do very bad things to innocent people, and then have no problem with it.

On the other hand, I've dealt with police forces, that if someone was killing them, and I knew who it was, I wouldn't turn him in.

It's amusing how the cops in California have suddenly turned coward. One guy told me there are no longer any motorcycle cops to be seen. And now they're proving Dorner's point about corruption by shooting up vans with innocent people in them, including one with two tiny Aian women.

Personally I have problems telling two tiny Asian women (including one over 70 years old) from a 270-pound black muscleman.

I also find it interesting that one determined man with a gun has tied up an entire police force. So much for those who think tyrants cannot be fought because they have tanks, planes, etc. It's all for naught if those on the ground are targeted...or their families, as Dorner did.

Malicious coward and bullies, abusing people, ignoring their rights, murdering, beating and stealing, including in illegal searches, ignoring every Constitutional right....and nothing happens to them. Where is the justice?

That is why people are vicariously living through Jordan Dorner. Because they don't like cowardly, sadistic, fascist thugs pretending to be Peace Officers. And getting away with evil and the legal system doing nothing about it except calling it good.

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#5. To: Turtle (#0) (Edited)

The next question is, of course, why are people getting a vicarious thrill out of this?

I'm not getting any thrill out of this.

What I want to see transpire out of this are those officers named be brought to a Grand Jury. What I want also to see are the victims also mentioned along with those officers, to come forward and also testify at the Grand Jury.

The Grand Jury process is not open to the public. It is secret but since we have police officers who have grossly violated State and Federal laws, assaulted and battered innocent people, the Grand Jury is about the only avenue to allow these people to have their day.

By no means do I get a thrill out of this at all.

I believe in transparency and full accountability of those officers involved. If a citizen should not commit a crime if they cannot do the time, then the same should apply to those officers and others in public office involved. What I'm talking about here is misprision of felony, collusion, obstruction of justice, tampering with witnesses, concealing and destroying evidence of scenes of crimes, fabricating charges on innocent people leading to those innocent going to jail murdered in jail or by the Governor of the State for a crime they never even committed. That's what I'm talking about.

purplerose  posted on  2013-02-09   21:16:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: purplerose (#5)

What I want to see transpire out of this are those officers named be brought to a Grand Jury. What I want also to see are the victims also mentioned along with those officers, to come forward and also testify at the Grand Jury.

That would be an excellent outcome. It might stop Dormer's murder spree ( if he's not dead already).

I think MSM could play an important role in this regard, if they chose to do some investigative journalism and make the LAPD Chief of Police and LA's DA "uncomfortable" so they are the ones to call for a Grand Jury hearing.

The only down side to this scenario - and it's a big one - is that other people who feel they have been shafted by The System might use Dorner's tactics to get attention, to get "justice."

scrapper2  posted on  2013-02-09   22:28:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: scrapper2 (#6)

The only down side to this scenario - and it's a big one - is that other people who feel they have been shafted by The System might use Dorner's tactics to get attention, to get "justice."

Well, here it is. What "tactics" should other people who feel they have been shafted by The System use? Should they vote, write their representatives, protest, sue, or hit the reset button? We're in bad shape, it is a big country, if it wants an omlet it's going to take a lot of cooks breaking a lot of eggs.

Continue eating your shit sandwich.

Hmmmmm  posted on  2013-02-09   23:15:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Hmmmmm (#8)

Continue eating your shit sandwich.

I'm eating salmon and halibut and filet every week. What about you? Is bluster effective?

Listen up, sistah. You are not the only one who has suffered injustice.

I was shafted by The System - 14 months, 3 weeks, 4 days ago to be exact.

And I've been positioning myself to exact revenge by making influential friends and by giving generous donations to "good causes." My revenge, if I'm successful, will be delivered as a dish served very very cold by proxy (another person) through the courts system. If I'm unsuccessful this time round, oh well, what have I lost besides a few bucks? Another opportunity will present itself in the future. Yes, Virginia, $ can buy justice.

People like you talk revolution, but that ain't happening in our life time, maybe never.

scrapper2  posted on  2013-02-10   0:30:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: scrapper2 (#10) (Edited)

What about you? Is bluster effective?

Hell no, of course not! My activist days are over. Now I sit on the sidelines and contribute comments, support, satire, and snide remarks.

I think we are way past the point of return and whatever happens is going to be bad or worse and sooner rather than later. Years ago I told 1talmosttoolate that it was time to change his name (I had another name then on some POS west coast forum) it took him a couple years and forums before he did. A revolution to restore "a constitutional republic" where man is sovereign is a pipe dream, hell it didn't last 10 years. Good luck with your vengeance thing I hope it works out, I doubt it would for me but I don't mind standing on the sidelines cheering as cops shoot each other and make more people aware of their incompetence and thuggery.

The shit sandwich wasn't meant to be directed to you but:

“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless shit sandwich reference I published. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm  posted on  2013-02-10   1:34:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#14. To: Hmmmmm (#12)

The shit sandwich wasn't meant to be directed to you but:

“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless shit sandwich reference I published. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm

"Wanna buy a tooth brush" ???

noone222  posted on  2013-02-10 03:58:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Hmmmmm (#12)

The shit sandwich wasn't meant to be directed to you but:

I think I may have got it by mistake since I've developed a shitty attitude and they say "you are what you eat" !

noone222  posted on  2013-02-10 04:10:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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