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Title: Why People Identify with Jordan Dorner
Source: UncleBob's Treehouse
URL Source: http://uncabob.blogspot.com/2013/02 ... entify-with-jordan-dorner.html
Published: Feb 9, 2013
Author: Bob Wallace
Post Date: 2013-02-09 19:38:04 by Turtle
Keywords: None
Views: 927
Comments: 29

Trample, trample, trample, kick, shoot, punch, beat, murder, laugh, get away with it.

No one in his right mind agrees with Jordan Dorner murdering people, but I have met a lot of people who are living through him vicariously. They don't much care - or don't care at all - as long as he's killing police officers. They don't even much care he's murdered innocent people - because they are the relatives of people that Dorner thinks humiliated and abused him.

The next question is, of course, why are people getting a vicarious thrill out of this?

It's got to the point where many police forces are deadly corrupt. They get away with murdering innocent people, shooting or beating them to death, paralyzing them, putting them into permanent comas or anything else you can think of.

And they almost always get away with it. And they laugh and high-five each other.

That's why people are angry. And most police just don't get it. They have no comprehension that many people see them as the bad guys, because they are the bad guys.

They also don't get that humiliation is always followed by revenge. The Greeks called it Hubris followed by Nemesis. Hubris meant to originally humiliate someone in public, and they considered it so obscene they banned it from the theater. Nemesis, for all practical purposes, means "revenge."

Dorner was clearly a psychologically fragile man from the git-go. You don't take someone like that and just dump him in the street and say "bye bye." He saw it as unbearable humiliation, and now he's taking his revenge. That's a law of human nature, and many of the police are too stupid and naive to understand how human nature works.

Police officers aren't supposed to be "police" officers. They're supposed to be Peace Officers. Some are, but many aren't.

People tell me there are many "good cops" out there. Oh really? Name one "good" cop who's turned in a bad cop. Not three bad cops. Not two bad cops. One bad cop.

The last time I can remember that happening was Serpico, and his fellow cops tried to kill him.

When I was growing up police officers did not act like this. I never had a problem with the police in my hometown, even though they pulled me over once when I accidentally ran a red light at night, in the rain, during construction. They didn't even give me a ticket.

I even had two pick me up when I was hitchhiking as a teenager. So don't think I'm against the police. I'm against bad cops who do very bad things to innocent people, and then have no problem with it.

On the other hand, I've dealt with police forces, that if someone was killing them, and I knew who it was, I wouldn't turn him in.

It's amusing how the cops in California have suddenly turned coward. One guy told me there are no longer any motorcycle cops to be seen. And now they're proving Dorner's point about corruption by shooting up vans with innocent people in them, including one with two tiny Aian women.

Personally I have problems telling two tiny Asian women (including one over 70 years old) from a 270-pound black muscleman.

I also find it interesting that one determined man with a gun has tied up an entire police force. So much for those who think tyrants cannot be fought because they have tanks, planes, etc. It's all for naught if those on the ground are targeted...or their families, as Dorner did.

Malicious coward and bullies, abusing people, ignoring their rights, murdering, beating and stealing, including in illegal searches, ignoring every Constitutional right....and nothing happens to them. Where is the justice?

That is why people are vicariously living through Jordan Dorner. Because they don't like cowardly, sadistic, fascist thugs pretending to be Peace Officers. And getting away with evil and the legal system doing nothing about it except calling it good.

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#5. To: Turtle (#0) (Edited)

The next question is, of course, why are people getting a vicarious thrill out of this?

I'm not getting any thrill out of this.

What I want to see transpire out of this are those officers named be brought to a Grand Jury. What I want also to see are the victims also mentioned along with those officers, to come forward and also testify at the Grand Jury.

The Grand Jury process is not open to the public. It is secret but since we have police officers who have grossly violated State and Federal laws, assaulted and battered innocent people, the Grand Jury is about the only avenue to allow these people to have their day.

By no means do I get a thrill out of this at all.

I believe in transparency and full accountability of those officers involved. If a citizen should not commit a crime if they cannot do the time, then the same should apply to those officers and others in public office involved. What I'm talking about here is misprision of felony, collusion, obstruction of justice, tampering with witnesses, concealing and destroying evidence of scenes of crimes, fabricating charges on innocent people leading to those innocent going to jail murdered in jail or by the Governor of the State for a crime they never even committed. That's what I'm talking about.

purplerose  posted on  2013-02-09   21:16:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: purplerose (#5)

What I want to see transpire out of this are those officers named be brought to a Grand Jury. What I want also to see are the victims also mentioned along with those officers, to come forward and also testify at the Grand Jury.

That would be an excellent outcome. It might stop Dormer's murder spree ( if he's not dead already).

I think MSM could play an important role in this regard, if they chose to do some investigative journalism and make the LAPD Chief of Police and LA's DA "uncomfortable" so they are the ones to call for a Grand Jury hearing.

The only down side to this scenario - and it's a big one - is that other people who feel they have been shafted by The System might use Dorner's tactics to get attention, to get "justice."

scrapper2  posted on  2013-02-09   22:28:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: scrapper2 (#6)

What I want to see transpire out of this are those officers named be brought to a Grand Jury.

That would be an excellent outcome.

Years ago I lived in San Diego and belonged to a fairly large "patriot" group (300-400 people meeting weekly) made up primarily of the disenfranchised and ill affected. Most of these people had been attacked by the FEDS financially or the State had abducted their kids.

One year, on July 4th, we had quite a large "patriot rally" consisting of about 500-600 people. We had invited Ted Gunderson and John DeCamp to speak (and some others) at a Lions Club facility.

My point here is this; at the end of the meeting we were all standing proudly, singing, God Bless America and the Star Spangled Banner, when I began to get tears in my eyes and the anger I felt was extreme, overwhelming, because I realized that nearly everyone there still LOVED a country that had been butt fucking them since birth.

Some here might feel Dorner's gone to extremes that they consider out of bounds or over the line. Others, like myself, might actually be living vicariously through him. In any event, the truth is that there is a very real war going on in this country and the American people are reacting much like a retarded kid would to a gang of bullies. Most Americans just don't fucking get it.

If Dorner makes it to Texas I might even help him. I hate the hypocrits in uniform that have made a mockery of the Constitution and the ideal of a peace officer. It's taken me a very long time to develop the intense hatred I have for the FEDERAL FEUDAL FARM that has taken our liberty, as well as the phoney bologna political class that has managed to perpetuate the fraud while pretending to "represent" Americans.

Fuck a Grand Jury.

noone222  posted on  2013-02-10   4:37:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: noone222 (#19)

Well said there, noone222. If not a Grand Jury, what other means can there be justice for him and the victims? The courts are packed with corrupt judges out there. Especially those that were former L.A Police Commissioners now turned judges who see day to day that cases brought before them concerning their good old boys are quashed in the courts. Of course, you can sue the judge, if you can find them to have them served legal process. Been there, done that.

purplerose  posted on  2013-02-10   13:26:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: purplerose (#23)

Of course, you can sue the judge, if you can find them to have them served legal process. Been there, done that.

I've been there and done that too. In one instance I even got satisfaction but that was a rare instance and still wasn't justice.

The chances that the judicial system will correct itself are pretty slim IMO. In this matter concerning Dorner I doubt there will be a trial. I don't think he'll live to see a court room or even a jail cell.

noone222  posted on  2013-02-11   5:26:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: noone222 (#24)

I doubt there will be a trial. I don't think he'll live to see a court room or even a jail cell.

I don't think he intends to go to trial. I think he's a Frost fan.

"The woods are lovely, dark, and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep."

Hmmmmm  posted on  2013-02-11   15:53:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Hmmmmm (#26)

Frost fan?

christine  posted on  2013-02-11   17:41:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#28. To: Hmmmmm (#27)

oh, i get it. i missed the quote below.

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