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Title: Pope proclaims first saints, says Christians still persecuted (lol)
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URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/pope-proclaim ... till-persecuted-111217305.html
Published: May 12, 2013
Author: k
Post Date: 2013-05-12 09:25:37 by PSUSA2
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VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Francis on Sunday proclaimed as saints some 800 Italians killed in the 15th century for refusing to convert to Islam, and said many Christians were still being persecuted for their faith.

The Vatican seemed at pains not to allow the first canonizations of Francis' two-month-old papacy to be interpreted as anti-Islamic, saying the deaths of the 'Otranto Marytrs' must be understood in their historical context.

The 800 were killed in 1480 in the siege of Otranto, on the southeastern Adriatic, by Ottoman Turks who sacked the city, killed its archbishop and told the citizens to surrender and convert.

When they refused, the Ottoman commanding officer ordered the execution of all men aged 15 or older, most by beheading.

"While we venerate the Otranto Martyrs, we ask God to sustain the many Christians who, today, in many parts of the world, right now, still suffer violence and give them the courage to be faithful and to respond to evil with good," Francis said before more than 70,000 people in St. Peter's Square.

He did not mention any countries, but the Vatican has expressed deep concern recently about the fate of Christians in parts of the Middle East, including Coptic Christians who have been caught up in sectarian strife in Egypt.

A booklet handed out to participants said the "sacrifice" of the Otranto Martyrs "must be placed within the historical context of the wars that determined relations between Europe and the Ottoman Empire for a long period of time".

HEALING MIRACLE

Francis' predecessor, Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI, made a speech in Regensburg, Germany, in 2006 that was perceived by Muslims as equating Islam with violence.

Benedict said at the time he had been misunderstood. He is now living in retirement in a Vatican convent, after stepping down in February.

Roman Catholic sainthood requires that two miracles be attributed to those who are being made saints - one before beatification, and another before canonization.

In the case of the 800 Italians, the requirement for the first miracle was waived because they were killed "in hatred of the faith".

The miracle approved for their canonization was that of a nun who had cancer which, according to the Church, was healed after she prayed at a memorial to the martyrs in Otranto.

At Sunday's ceremony, Francis also proclaimed Colombia's first saint, a nun who died in 1949, and canonized a Mexican nun who died in 1963.

At the end of the Mass, he made his first appeal as pope against abortion, saying life must be "respected from the moment of conception" and throwing his support behind an Italian group promoting legal protection for embryos.

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#1. To: All (#0) (Edited)

00 Italians killed in the 15th century for refusing to convert to Islam

And how many were murdered by catholics for not converting to xtianity?

How many did you murder because they didn't agree with YOUR version of xtianity?

Are you going to make them saints too, you fucking asshole?

It's all in who's doing it.

But don't forget now. Satan is the bad guy. Hail Satan!

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Can you demonstrate a single instance in history where incursion by niggers blacks has resulted in excellence, prosperity, or improvement owing to their presence, inventiveness, or disposition?

PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-12   9:28:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: PSUSA2 (#0)

By making a point of canonizing so many whose single claim is that they died for rejecting Islam, this Pope has (metaphorically) stuck his tongue out at the jihadists.

Shoonra  posted on  2013-05-12   10:31:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Shoonra (#2)

Religion. Isn't it just grand?

I think I can see why he did this.

It is a political decision on his part. Does anyone really think the poop gives a damn about some dead people?

But he can use them to create (or rather maintain / strengthen) a siege mentality, a us vs them scenario. The catholic church is weak and he thinks things like this will strengthen it. It's all lip service, but religious people eat that up. THey love lip service and other useless symbolism.

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Can you demonstrate a single instance in history where incursion by niggers blacks has resulted in excellence, prosperity, or improvement owing to their presence, inventiveness, or disposition?

PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-12   10:43:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: PSUSA2 (#3)

Christians still fleeing today -

www.foxnews.com/opinion/2...stians-from-muslim-world/

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-05-12   10:54:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Lod (#4)

Fleeing due to religious differences. Get rid of religion and that gets rid of the problems.

Why people care so much about what others believe is beyond me. Beliefs are personal, not corporate. Leave other people out of it.

They're authoritarian pricks. They make demands of others that they have no right to make. Then they complain of persecution when they meet resistance. Everyone wants to convert everyone else.

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Can you demonstrate a single instance in history where incursion by niggers blacks has resulted in excellence, prosperity, or improvement owing to their presence, inventiveness, or disposition?

PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-12   11:08:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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