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Title: Air Force sidelines 17 ICBM officers at Minot AFB
Source: minotdailynews.com
URL Source: http://www.minotdailynews.com/page/ ... CBM-officers-at-Minot-AFB.html
Published: May 8, 2013
Author: WASHINGTON (AP)
Post Date: 2013-06-04 17:20:03 by GreyLmist
Keywords: None
Views: 624
Comments: 55

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"We are, in fact, in a crisis right now," the commander, Lt. Col. Jay Folds, wrote in an internal email obtained by The Associated Press and confirmed by the Air Force.

The Air Force publicly called the inspection a "success."

But in April it quietly removed 17 officers at Minot from the highly sensitive duty of standing 24-hour watch over the Air Force's most powerful nuclear missiles, the intercontinental ballistic missiles that can strike targets across the globe. Inside each underground launch control capsule, two officers stand "alert" at all times, ready to launch an ICBM upon presidential order.

The 17 cases mark the Air Force's most extensive sidelining ever of launch crew members, according to Lt. Col. Angie Blair, a spokeswoman for Air Force Global Strike Command, which oversees the missile units as well as nuclear-capable bombers. The wing has 150 officers assigned to missile launch control duty.

The trouble at Minot is the latest in a series of setbacks for the Air Force's nuclear mission, highlighted by a 2008 Pentagon advisory group report that found a "dramatic and unacceptable decline" in the Air Force's commitment to the mission, which has its origins in a Cold War standoff with the former Soviet Union.

In 2008, then-Defense Secretary Robert Gates sacked the top civilian and military leaders of the Air Force after a series of blunders, including a bomber's mistaken flight across the country armed with nuclear-tipped missiles. Since then the Air Force has taken numerous steps designed to improve its nuclear performance.

The email obtained by the AP describes a culture of indifference, with at least one intentional violation of missile safety rules and an apparent unwillingness among some to challenge or report those who violate rules.

Although sidelining 17 launch officers at once is unprecedented, the Air Force said stripping officers of their authority to control nuclear missiles happens to "a small number" of officers every year for a variety of reasons.

In addition to the 17, possible disciplinary action is pending against one other officer at Minot who investigators found had purposefully broken a missile safety rule in an unspecified act that could have compromised the secret codes that enable the launching of missiles, which stand on high alert in underground silos in the nation's midsection. Officials said there was no compromise of missile safety or security.

Folds also complained about unwarranted questioning of orders from superior officers by launch crews and failure to address superiors with the proper respect.

The launch simulator is used in testing for inspection because, for obvious reasons, they can't perform an actual missile launch.

Exposure of shortcomings within Vercher's unit recalls an earlier series of stunning mistakes by other elements of the nuclear force, including the August 2007 incident in which an Air Force B-52 bomber flew from Minot to Barksdale Air Force Base, La., without the crew realizing it was armed with six nuclear-tipped cruise missiles. One outcome of the incident was the creation of Global Strike Command in January 2009 as a way of improving management of the nuclear enterprise.

Bruce Blair, who served as an Air Force ICBM launch control officer in the 1970s and is now a research scholar at Princeton University, said the Folds email points to a broader problem within the nuclear weapons force.

Blair is co-founder of Global Zero, an international group that advocates the eventual elimination of nuclear weapons.

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#2. To: GreyLmist (#0)

August 2007 incident in which an Air Force B-52 bomber flew from Minot to Barksdale Air Force Base, La., without the crew realizing it was armed with six nuclear-tipped cruise missiles.

I still find it impossible to take that story at face value.

I have no experience with nukes, or any .mil experience at all. But I do know a few things from reading good sources. For example, no one is left alone with a nuke, ever. Someone is always watching. IOW, they don't play.

Incompetence does not even begin to explain how this happened. It would have to be universal incompetence, and I don't see that happening.

PSUSA2  posted on  2013-06-04   17:39:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: PSUSA2 (#2)

August 2007 incident in which an Air Force B-52 bomber flew from Minot to Barksdale Air Force Base, La., without the crew realizing it was armed with six nuclear-tipped cruise missiles.

I still find it impossible to take that story at face value.

I have no experience with nukes, or any .mil experience at all. But I do know a few things from reading good sources. For example, no one is left alone with a nuke, ever. Someone is always watching. IOW, they don't play.

Incompetence does not even begin to explain how this happened. It would have to be universal incompetence, and I don't see that happening.

Good points. Like the article said: "One outcome of the incident was the creation of Global Strike Command in January 2009 as a way of improving management of the nuclear enterprise." Couldn't be possible that outcome was pre-planned and the incident was the premise to implement it, could it? Nah, that would be like a conspiracy with too many people involved, etc., etc. /s

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-06-04   19:26:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: GreyLmist (#4)

All I know about nukes is that they don't just go grab a few from the bunker and load them up just because they felt like it. They don't play with these weapons. I wish I could remember more about the protocol used, because it would show the complete impossibility of something like this happening because someone had a massive brain fart.

And all I know is that we weren't even given a reasonable explanation on how this could possibly happen. I wouldn't argue if it's claimed there was a conspiracy, simply because no one could ever do this alone.

PSUSA2  posted on  2013-06-04   19:42:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: PSUSA2 (#5)

I wish I could remember more about the protocol used, because it would show the complete impossibility of something like this happening

And all I know is that we weren't even given a reasonable explanation on how this could possibly happen. I wouldn't argue if it's claimed there was a conspiracy, simply because no one could ever do this alone.

We haven't been given a reasonable explanation on a lot of things and impossibilites that couldn't happen as said. Questions are practically verboten, especially as to more than a few involved. How much does it matter if the stories are true or not? The world has been run on stories for millenia, regardless of veracity, and that's still how most people seem to insist that it continues -- no resistance to whatever storylines are being scripted next for us by supposed officialdom, even though it's almost without exception something devastating. It's not like we're supposed to solve any of the puzzles or even find missing nukes, yes? The system hasn't changed course from our investigative efforts and findings because it is a system alien to our Founders' intentions. It's like the media's reporting is just meant to be a preview of coming attractions: war, oppressive legislation, "security" or departmental restructuring, more financial and taxation burdens and such. Any suggestions?

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-06-04   21:21:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: GreyLmist (#7)

Any suggestions?

Strike! Loudly! Refuse to participate. Sign up for benefits if you want to, suck them dry. Do not submit! I'm not joking.

Hmmmmm  posted on  2013-07-12   23:03:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#43. To: Hmmmmm, 4 (#39) (Edited)

Any suggestions?

Strike! Loudly! Refuse to participate. Sign up for benefits if you want to, suck them dry. Do not submit! I'm not joking.

Everyone can't go on strike and keep their job, can't get benefits just by signing up, can't refuse to participate or submit without going to jail -- maybe losing custody of their children...maybe losing their home. There are women and children with no adult male in the household to help them as providers and protectors...elderly and handicapped people too who are not practically able to resist even if they wanted to do that. Random acts of resistance are not enough to comprehensively correct the situation.

Amendment 2

...Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State...

...not a Police State, not a Surveillance State...a Free State. Who will do their duty as our Constitutional guards and who refuses to participate?

America's Secret Army

if you are an adult American male between the ages of 17 and 45, you are part of the militia, whether you knew it or not, whether or not you want to be, and whether or not you are armed. Just so you know.

Committees of Safety then and today by Dan McGonigle.MTS - 27:45

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Dan McGonigle of the Massachusetts Committees of Safety discusses the historical background of the Committees of Safety and the need for us to establish Constitutional State Militias. This was done in Boston's North end near the spot of the first Committee of Safety meeting.

Committee of Correspondence

Committee of Safety (American Revolution)

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GreyLmist  posted on  2013-07-14 16:43:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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