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Title: Keiser: The Collapse of the Current Bankster Regime is Upon Us
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URL Source: http://www.infowars.com/keiser-the- ... nt-bankster-regime-is-upon-us/
Published: Jun 17, 2013
Author: Max Keiser
Post Date: 2013-06-17 13:22:26 by Horse
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Views: 4208
Comments: 64

We’re in a post-capitalist, post-socialism world. I have just come back from the G8 protests in Belfast and it occurred to me – at this point; we’re post both capitalism and socialism – and this point needs to be made clear, but we also see some vestiges of both systems in a new, emerging economy that has yet to be named.

I agree with the G8 protesters in Belfast that capitalism – as it’s been iterated in the West in the post WWII era has run its course. The main cause for its demise, as I see it, is that during the 1980’s; thanks to deregulation, futures and options speculation and leverage migrated over to the burgeoning field of ‘financial futures’ and the price discovery mechanism associated with supply and demand and the ‘invisible hand’ – over the ensuing few decades – completely broke down. Money itself lost any anchor to value as futures traders speculated with virtually no risk on contracts worth many billions that had been willed into existence by financial engineers not by dint of any underlying economic activity.

And there’s no going back now. You see, financial futures are trading on prices that are based – not on any underlying economic reality – but rather a series of assumptions based on academically-concatenated theories and theorems which in turn generate a new set of prices. The result is that capital flows into destabilizing ‘malinvestments’ all hidden by the outsized returns of intermediaries like hedge funds who make billions mining what has become essentially a broken system of monetizing fraud.

Since the rising unemployment and social unrest these financially engineered malinvestments produce is ignored, because hedge funds have been making lots of money, nobody is willing to step forward and suggest that making money at the expense of a sound market might be a bad thing. The fake prices are never questioned and the fraudulently garnered riches are always celebrated.

Prices for all commodities and securities have permanently lost their connection to a functioning economy. Once a pickle, never a cucumber. Financialized capitalism is now in its death throes.

What about socialism?

As that term is generally understood – it has also burnt out. Central planning, hierarchical governments, and doctrines guaranteeing ‘fairness’ simply don’t work; primarily because all centrally planned systems of markets and governments fail the ‘naturalness’ test. Nothing in nature works for long that is so rigid and unadaptable as man made experiments in central planning except for a few parasites and cancer.

Today we have hybrid models that contain bits from the previous schools that are racing ahead to fill the vacuum left by collapse of both capitalism and socialism.

Crowdfunding is an emergent idea. It owes a debt of gratitude to socialism. It’s part of ‘social networking,’ a phenomenon of leveraging the ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ idea. Keep in mind that Google’s multi-billion dollar valuation is driven by billions of individuals donating their time and creativity to the collective. So too for ‘open-source’ software and p2p file swapping. But there is also a necessary component of competition associated with free market capitalism in crowd funding. A platform like Kickstarter allows for ideas to compete in a free market – where the funds flow where the market goes; not where a central planner wants funds to go.

Bitcoin is also a post capitalism/socialism hybrid. It’s growth is driven by a hard coded, centrally imagined algorithm while it’s adoption is possible via the free market activities of users who are rejecting centrally planned, bogus fiat currencies like Pounds, Dollars, and Yen and using Bitcoin instead.

The collapse of the current bankster regime is upon us. This means a whole new set of winners and losers. The point is that it’s not all grim. The future is being imagined and implemented as we speak.

Special for Infowars from Max Keiser, host of Russia Today’s Keiser Report, a no holds barred look at the shocking scandals behind the global financial headlines. See his latest report discussing the price holograms in a simulated economy.


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#1. To: Horse (#0) (Edited)

The Collapse of the Current Bankster Regime is Upon Us

Max has a limited perspective.

I really cannot wait for the FED to collapse. It has been robbing the people blind for too many years.

What we will get in its place is hard to tell at this point. But, hopefully those traitors in the District of Criminals will get some spines and give us something honest that we can all live with.

I hear Bitcoin has a few advantages over traditional fiat currency.

There is no money since the abrogation of the gold standard. All debts MUST be discharged. ;)

BTP Holdings  posted on  2013-06-17   16:43:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: BTP Holdings (#1)

There is no money since the abrogation of the gold standard. All debts MUST be discharged. ;)

Interesting.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-06-17   19:28:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: GreyLmist (#2)

There is no money since the abrogation of the gold standard. All debts MUST be discharged. ;)

Interesting.

There is also NO CONSTITUTION for the same reason, at least not in the jurisdictional environment of COMMERCE where debt is monetized but it's not constitutional money.

As long as we had Constitutionally authorized "MONEY" we had a Constitution.

noone222  posted on  2013-06-17   20:11:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: noone222 (#3)

There is also NO CONSTITUTION

I have a book at home titled, "Constitution, Fact or Fiction". Have not read it in a while but it seems to me that you are correct about what you say. ;)

BTP Holdings  posted on  2013-06-18   16:50:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: BTP Holdings, noone222 (#6)

noone222 at Post #3: There is also NO CONSTITUTION

BTP Holdings at Post #6: I have a book at home titled, "Constitution, Fact or Fiction". Have not read it in a while but it seems to me that you are correct about what you say. ;)

Jumpin' Jimminy Crickets! You are not being helpful to the case you presented yourself at Post #1, BTP: "There is no money since the abrogation of the gold standard. All debts MUST be discharged. ;)"

On what basis of law, praytell, would your call to cancel all debts as unrepayable due to the abrogation of the gold standard be even partially correct without the Constitution's stipulation that the States make nothing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment for their debt purposes?

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-06-18   17:26:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: GreyLmist (#8) (Edited)

On what basis of law, praytell, would your call to cancel all debts as unrepayable due to the abrogation of the gold standard be even partially correct without the Constitution's stipulation that the States make nothing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment for their debt purposes?

The founders knew that meaningless "promises to pay" (commercial paper) utilized by banksters and merchants should not be associated in any way with their Constitutional Govt, and to this day it isn't associated with the organic, Constitutional Government. It is the property of the FEDERAL RESERVE, permitted by the UNITED STATES INCORPORATED.

Today, those with bank accounts are considered under their laws as CREDITORS to the bank where they thought they had a deposit and will be treated as such when the banks collapse.

Have you collected the interest on your loan TO THE BANK ?

EDIT: Isn't that usury ?

Of course, most Americans are card carrying members of the FEDERAL SYSTEM (which shouldn't be confused with the National Government) that operates within the UNITED STATES CORP. through socialist security - which the framers would have scoffed into oblivion.

noone222  posted on  2013-06-18   18:08:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: noone222, BTP Holdings (#9) (Edited)

noone222 at Post #5 and Post #9

So, discharging debt is the proper terminology for the issue rather than cancellation of debt. Ok, will use that phrasing instead. As you might recall, noone, I'm not much of a goldbug except on the matter of States being directed by the Constitution to use gold and silver for their debt purposes, fixed in value to a Standard of Weights and Measures set by Congress rather than erratic market fluctuations. I think that some of our problem is that fiat-issued money looks the same as money earned by We the People in exchange for our goods and services. I don't think it's the paper-form itself that is undermining our Republic when that paper represents actual time and effort invested in producing goods and services. Usurious/debt-based/fractional reserve/fiat conjured pretend money should be stamped with a warning label about that and money issued to We the People for our economic and societal contributions should be stamped as sound, production-backed and approved by the government. Neither do I think that businesses can override the Constitution by contracts that violate it and interfere with our right to a Republican form of government rather than a gambling casino-model run by Mafiosos. If they could just do whatever they want contractually, the Supreme Court and others would be less busy, imo.

We might not be able to agree on all of that but I was watching videos on Nixon's speech about taking America off the gold standard and would like to point out that he said it was a temporary measure to defend the dollar from speculators, with conditional exceptions for convertability to gold in the interest of monetary stability. He was wrong that it would keep our money from losing value and Constitutionally wrong on other points in the speech (like taxing imports himself, for instance) but am posting it below because I would like to hear your opinions and others on the temporary and conditional aspects that he mentioned around the 1:00 mark:

Nixon Ends Bretton Woods International Monetary System -- 4 minutes

Edited for formatting.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-06-18   21:50:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: GreyLmist (#10)

I will listen to Nixon's speech after I respond to your post and may have more to add afterwards.

Our low opinion of the currency in place today is very similar. We don't like it. I also agree that it looks like the former "silver backed" currency in order to fool the public into thinking nothing has changed. (But much did change because the FEDERAL RESERVE NOTE is the private property of the banksters and they have no obligation to uphold or even recognize the constitution.)

Is this situation born out of fraud ? I think so as do you.

What has happened is that we the people have unwittingly entered the bank's private area of authority by agreement through usage of their INTERNAL currency and credit system. At the same time, Washington D.C. has been incorporated under the title United States (FEDERAL GOVT not national govt) and is obligated to honor the FEDERAL RESERVE.

I wish it weren't so and believe it will ultimately lead to some form of revolution or WW III.

The only way for America to operate under the original Constitution is to return to sound monetary policies that are at the same time authorized constitutionally. If there's an Amendment that's properly passed to use paper currency without regard to a gold/silver standard that would also suit me and I think it would be lawful and leave us with our constitutional republic.

As I mentioned above, for all practical purposes we are currently "residing" within the structure of the bank (or owned by the FEDERAL RESERVE) and not the Constitutional republic.

There is a case, Clearfield Trust Co. v. United States, 318 U.S. 363 (1943) wherein the court states (paraphrasing) that when a governmental organization resorts to the use of commercial paper it reduces its authority to that of any other commercial enterprise. At this juncture all organizations utilize commercial paper because that's all there is in circulation.

noone222  posted on  2013-06-19   8:13:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: noone222 (#11)

What has happened is that we the people have unwittingly entered the bank's private area of authority by agreement through usage of their INTERNAL currency and credit system. At the same time, Washington D.C. has been incorporated under the title United States (FEDERAL GOVT not national govt) and is obligated to honor the FEDERAL RESERVE.

The entire monetary system is a fraud, including the Federal Reserve itself.

When we accept those FRNs for the work we perform, we are engaged in commerce. The same holds true when you use those Notes to purchase "items" at the grocery store, mall, or gas station.

When you use a credit card or debit card, the same holds true. ;)

BTP Holdings  posted on  2013-07-18   17:24:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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