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Title: Keiser: The Collapse of the Current Bankster Regime is Upon Us
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URL Source: http://www.infowars.com/keiser-the- ... nt-bankster-regime-is-upon-us/
Published: Jun 17, 2013
Author: Max Keiser
Post Date: 2013-06-17 13:22:26 by Horse
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Views: 4213
Comments: 64

We’re in a post-capitalist, post-socialism world. I have just come back from the G8 protests in Belfast and it occurred to me – at this point; we’re post both capitalism and socialism – and this point needs to be made clear, but we also see some vestiges of both systems in a new, emerging economy that has yet to be named.

I agree with the G8 protesters in Belfast that capitalism – as it’s been iterated in the West in the post WWII era has run its course. The main cause for its demise, as I see it, is that during the 1980’s; thanks to deregulation, futures and options speculation and leverage migrated over to the burgeoning field of ‘financial futures’ and the price discovery mechanism associated with supply and demand and the ‘invisible hand’ – over the ensuing few decades – completely broke down. Money itself lost any anchor to value as futures traders speculated with virtually no risk on contracts worth many billions that had been willed into existence by financial engineers not by dint of any underlying economic activity.

And there’s no going back now. You see, financial futures are trading on prices that are based – not on any underlying economic reality – but rather a series of assumptions based on academically-concatenated theories and theorems which in turn generate a new set of prices. The result is that capital flows into destabilizing ‘malinvestments’ all hidden by the outsized returns of intermediaries like hedge funds who make billions mining what has become essentially a broken system of monetizing fraud.

Since the rising unemployment and social unrest these financially engineered malinvestments produce is ignored, because hedge funds have been making lots of money, nobody is willing to step forward and suggest that making money at the expense of a sound market might be a bad thing. The fake prices are never questioned and the fraudulently garnered riches are always celebrated.

Prices for all commodities and securities have permanently lost their connection to a functioning economy. Once a pickle, never a cucumber. Financialized capitalism is now in its death throes.

What about socialism?

As that term is generally understood – it has also burnt out. Central planning, hierarchical governments, and doctrines guaranteeing ‘fairness’ simply don’t work; primarily because all centrally planned systems of markets and governments fail the ‘naturalness’ test. Nothing in nature works for long that is so rigid and unadaptable as man made experiments in central planning except for a few parasites and cancer.

Today we have hybrid models that contain bits from the previous schools that are racing ahead to fill the vacuum left by collapse of both capitalism and socialism.

Crowdfunding is an emergent idea. It owes a debt of gratitude to socialism. It’s part of ‘social networking,’ a phenomenon of leveraging the ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ idea. Keep in mind that Google’s multi-billion dollar valuation is driven by billions of individuals donating their time and creativity to the collective. So too for ‘open-source’ software and p2p file swapping. But there is also a necessary component of competition associated with free market capitalism in crowd funding. A platform like Kickstarter allows for ideas to compete in a free market – where the funds flow where the market goes; not where a central planner wants funds to go.

Bitcoin is also a post capitalism/socialism hybrid. It’s growth is driven by a hard coded, centrally imagined algorithm while it’s adoption is possible via the free market activities of users who are rejecting centrally planned, bogus fiat currencies like Pounds, Dollars, and Yen and using Bitcoin instead.

The collapse of the current bankster regime is upon us. This means a whole new set of winners and losers. The point is that it’s not all grim. The future is being imagined and implemented as we speak.

Special for Infowars from Max Keiser, host of Russia Today’s Keiser Report, a no holds barred look at the shocking scandals behind the global financial headlines. See his latest report discussing the price holograms in a simulated economy.


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#1. To: Horse (#0) (Edited)

The Collapse of the Current Bankster Regime is Upon Us

Max has a limited perspective.

I really cannot wait for the FED to collapse. It has been robbing the people blind for too many years.

What we will get in its place is hard to tell at this point. But, hopefully those traitors in the District of Criminals will get some spines and give us something honest that we can all live with.

I hear Bitcoin has a few advantages over traditional fiat currency.

There is no money since the abrogation of the gold standard. All debts MUST be discharged. ;)

BTP Holdings  posted on  2013-06-17   16:43:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: BTP Holdings (#1)

There is no money since the abrogation of the gold standard. All debts MUST be discharged. ;)

Interesting.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-06-17   19:28:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: GreyLmist (#2)

There is no money since the abrogation of the gold standard. All debts MUST be discharged. ;)

Interesting.

There is also NO CONSTITUTION for the same reason, at least not in the jurisdictional environment of COMMERCE where debt is monetized but it's not constitutional money.

As long as we had Constitutionally authorized "MONEY" we had a Constitution.

noone222  posted on  2013-06-17   20:11:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: noone222 (#3)

There is also NO CONSTITUTION

I have a book at home titled, "Constitution, Fact or Fiction". Have not read it in a while but it seems to me that you are correct about what you say. ;)

BTP Holdings  posted on  2013-06-18   16:50:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: BTP Holdings, noone222 (#6)

noone222 at Post #3: There is also NO CONSTITUTION

BTP Holdings at Post #6: I have a book at home titled, "Constitution, Fact or Fiction". Have not read it in a while but it seems to me that you are correct about what you say. ;)

Jumpin' Jimminy Crickets! You are not being helpful to the case you presented yourself at Post #1, BTP: "There is no money since the abrogation of the gold standard. All debts MUST be discharged. ;)"

On what basis of law, praytell, would your call to cancel all debts as unrepayable due to the abrogation of the gold standard be even partially correct without the Constitution's stipulation that the States make nothing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment for their debt purposes?

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-06-18   17:26:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: GreyLmist (#8) (Edited)

On what basis of law, praytell, would your call to cancel all debts as unrepayable due to the abrogation of the gold standard be even partially correct without the Constitution's stipulation that the States make nothing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment for their debt purposes?

The founders knew that meaningless "promises to pay" (commercial paper) utilized by banksters and merchants should not be associated in any way with their Constitutional Govt, and to this day it isn't associated with the organic, Constitutional Government. It is the property of the FEDERAL RESERVE, permitted by the UNITED STATES INCORPORATED.

Today, those with bank accounts are considered under their laws as CREDITORS to the bank where they thought they had a deposit and will be treated as such when the banks collapse.

Have you collected the interest on your loan TO THE BANK ?

EDIT: Isn't that usury ?

Of course, most Americans are card carrying members of the FEDERAL SYSTEM (which shouldn't be confused with the National Government) that operates within the UNITED STATES CORP. through socialist security - which the framers would have scoffed into oblivion.

noone222  posted on  2013-06-18   18:08:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: noone222, BTP Holdings (#9) (Edited)

noone222 at Post #5 and Post #9

So, discharging debt is the proper terminology for the issue rather than cancellation of debt. Ok, will use that phrasing instead. As you might recall, noone, I'm not much of a goldbug except on the matter of States being directed by the Constitution to use gold and silver for their debt purposes, fixed in value to a Standard of Weights and Measures set by Congress rather than erratic market fluctuations. I think that some of our problem is that fiat-issued money looks the same as money earned by We the People in exchange for our goods and services. I don't think it's the paper-form itself that is undermining our Republic when that paper represents actual time and effort invested in producing goods and services. Usurious/debt-based/fractional reserve/fiat conjured pretend money should be stamped with a warning label about that and money issued to We the People for our economic and societal contributions should be stamped as sound, production-backed and approved by the government. Neither do I think that businesses can override the Constitution by contracts that violate it and interfere with our right to a Republican form of government rather than a gambling casino-model run by Mafiosos. If they could just do whatever they want contractually, the Supreme Court and others would be less busy, imo.

We might not be able to agree on all of that but I was watching videos on Nixon's speech about taking America off the gold standard and would like to point out that he said it was a temporary measure to defend the dollar from speculators, with conditional exceptions for convertability to gold in the interest of monetary stability. He was wrong that it would keep our money from losing value and Constitutionally wrong on other points in the speech (like taxing imports himself, for instance) but am posting it below because I would like to hear your opinions and others on the temporary and conditional aspects that he mentioned around the 1:00 mark:

Nixon Ends Bretton Woods International Monetary System -- 4 minutes

Edited for formatting.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-06-18   21:50:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: GreyLmist (#10)

OK, I listened. Nixon was a liar. And, by the way, our currency (internally) had already been dispossesed of its backing prior to this action. The action Nixon was taking at this time was more impacting upon international organizations that had been collecting gold payments that were being terminated. In that regard Nixon was merely telling the international community that we were going to start "discharging" our obligations with fiat currency instead of gold.

[Whether or not we had gold reserves remaining is questionable.]

Lastly, manufacturing and production of marketable goods that the world wishes to purchase from us is the critical element to the establishment of a solid currency. When we build or create the things the world can't do without then they have to find a way to trade with us. By that, I mean they have to convert their currency to ours in order to make a purchase and at that point WE DETERMINE the value of their currency.

Since we have been sliding backwards with respect to manufacturing and production in general our currency has declined in value proportionately.

noone222  posted on  2013-06-19   8:29:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: noone222 (#12) (Edited)

...manufacturing and production of marketable goods that the world wishes to purchase from us is the critical element to the establishment of a solid currency. When we build or create the things the world can't do without then they have to find a way to trade with us. By that, I mean they have to convert their currency to ours in order to make a purchase and at that point WE DETERMINE the value of their currency.

Since we have been sliding backwards with respect to manufacturing and production in general our currency has declined in value proportionately.

I thought of what you said there as I was watching a video yesterday about our nation's money problems and others -- much of our impoverishment due to the inflationary "Quantitative Easing" fiascos of bailouts and banker bonuses and such. I set that link to 18:35 for a segment of the video (until 20:23) where G. Edward Griffin talks about America exporting its inflation to import foreign products here. That, of course, is further damaging to our manufacturing and production which was already drastically reduced long ago. He didn't exactly say that Federal Reserve notes were being mass produced like trinkets for exporters but that's the impression I got. Then he described how the foreign countries flood our markets with that near worthless FRN junk by importing it back here to get rid of it. I was trying to think of what American markets they would even be interested much in purchasing from, since our manufacturing and production is so scarce: Weaponry, some farm and food products, some vehicles, so-called "entertainment industry" items that are mostly trash. And then it occurred to me that buying exports from us was probably not their objective so much as is buying up our properties, businesses and infrastructures. Americans are being genocidally poverty-stricken and dispossesed of our country. Their malevolent money schemes are designed to ensure that most of us cannot save up enough monetarily to stop their asset takeovers and many can't even sustain their own households anymore. We need a money system of our own and fast.

Edited for punctuation.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-07-16   17:11:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: All (#25)

Americans are being genocidally poverty-stricken and dispossesed of our country. Their malevolent money schemes are designed to ensure that most of us cannot save up enough monetarily to stop their asset takeovers and many can't even sustain their own households anymore. We need a money system of our own and fast.

Fixing the Money System - 2.5 minutes

Uploaded on Nov 10, 2008 by AdaptAdoptAndImprove

The US dollar is backed by nothing, and its value is rapidly spiralling out of control, taking the markets with it.

Many people are talking about the problem with fiat (unbacked) currency, but few people discuss solutions.

Here is a simple workable solution. (This is an excerpt from the movie Fiat Empire. The speaker is Edwin Vieira Jr., author of a 1700 page book on currency and the constitution.)

I'm not as certain as Dr. Vieira was at the time of his closing statement in that 2008 video on the availability of gold and silver as competing currencies for us to diminish the fiat paper farce. I think another currency system should also be implemented here that is based on our time and efforts invested to improve economic and societal conditions. That can be arranged in addition to whatever we are able to do to put gold and silver back into action as much as possible instead of Federal Reserve junk. This link for a 4-minute 2010 video about the "Don't Tread on Me" film is set to start at 2:37 for an example of how we could maybe put Federal taxes into an escrow account when D.C. is acting Unconstitutionally, which could serve as well to counter the preferential status of Federal Reserve notes in governmental transactions. I think it's a good idea even though it hasn't been enacted yet at the State level, afaik. If they won't do it, we the citizenry could consider diverting those payments to an escrow account established by us:

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-07-17   0:30:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: GreyLmist (#28)

That is the best clip I've seen from Dr. Vieira, most of them lately, eeh not so much. It is surely an understatement that with competition over time FRN would lose to anything, including tulips. They are not just debt instruments, they are instruments of theft codified as "Legal Tender" by fiat.

I see you as very sharp, rational, a person who knows this and doesn't believe they can be easily tricked or fooled with your skills at research. Not able to fall for every conspiracy theory that comes along.

Contrary to what the lamestream media tells us I believe the "Greatest Generation" may have been born in the 1700's. They fought for state government and rights presided over by the individual, provided for a common currency that could not be permanently corrupted, a limited and balanced national government, and this country was built based on common law courts.

The leap from their intent to what we suffer today is not something they would recognize our have expected us to allow, although the evidence is there that they did expect attempts to be made.

It is hard for a smart, rational, careful person to grasp what has been done to us without jumping into the rabbit hole and looking at all these attacks on our freedom and the Constitution as a malevolent conspiracy.

States rights and common law courts disappeared in the 1860's

The third Rothschild central bank in this country was installed in secret in 1913, along with the IRS.

As a result gold was taken from us as legal tender in 1933, silver in 1964. Since 1972 the fed has went into overdrive sucking the life out of this country.

We have many problems to deal with, that only an optimist would think will ever be resolved.

Today's mantra is "Move on", "Moving forward" it is repugnant to accept what has been done to us and posterity without placing or accepting responsibility for the grievous acts that got us HERE.

If you do jump in, all research will take you to kooks and nuts, by definition.

Hmmmmm  posted on  2013-07-18   22:31:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Hmmmmm (#35) (Edited)

Thank you for your kind words and interesting post but I actually do tend to think that much of what's thought to be world history is conspiratorial with deliberate malevolence and hoaxes rather than happenstance -- to herd the masses for the war and power plans of elitists. My views on those topics are sometimes outside the range of the alt-media orthodoxy, as well as officialdom's recitations.

I think big media doesn't want to refer to our Founding Generation as the Greatest for a number of Communistic
reasons -- one being that they and their cohorts want Americans to think and act Globally, not Free and Independently. We certainly do have many problems to deal with. Studying what's been happening to America and the world since the time of Lincoln and Marx makes it difficult to look forward and move ahead with much optimism. The MSM markets optimism for warmongers and oppressors and Leftists. The alt-media has the best articles, imo, for assessing and addressing the issues of the times, past and present, but optimism seems scarce there. I find it helpful to read things occasionally that are not so glum and to think about how the Founders' perspectives could help resolve problems peacefully. Also, these two sentences in your opening paragraph were very good, optimistically and summarily:

It is surely an understatement that with competition over time FRN would lose to anything, including tulips. They are not just debt instruments, they are instruments of theft codified as "Legal Tender" by fiat.

Edited for spacing.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-07-20   3:59:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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