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Title: Here is a possible example of a paid shill in action
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URL Source: http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/dail ... s=u#mediacommentsugc_container
Published: Jun 24, 2013
Author: Henry Blodget
Post Date: 2013-06-24 11:11:41 by PSUSA2
Keywords: None
Views: 1150
Comments: 21

Edward Snowden, the 30-year-old former contractor who leaked U.S. intelligence secrets, didn't show up for a flight from Moscow to Cuba today.

Many members of the media did show up, however, and they're now presumably floating across the world to Havana looking and feeling like fools.

According to media reports, which may not be worth much in this case, Snowden left his hideout in Hong Kong on Saturday night and flew to Moscow, where, to the chagrin of some American politicians, he was apparently welcomed with open arms. Later reports said that Snowden had been booked on today's flight to Cuba and, from there, would fly on to Venezuela or Ecuador, where he is said to be seeking asylum.

Related: Edward Snowden Is "Heroic" Says David Stockman

But now that Snowden isn't on the Cuba plane, no one is sure where he is, or what his plans are. Suddenly, it's hard to be certain that he actually left Hong Kong. The Washington Post is even wondering aloud whether he even exists.

Assuming Snowden does exist, and that this isn't one of the greatest red-herring hoaxes ever, his great escape is another finger in the eye of the United States, the country that he once swore to be loyal to.

Related: Is NSA Leaker Edward Snowden a Hero or a Traitor?

Although some Americans still support Snowden and consider him a patriot, most Americans now want him tossed in jail. Snowden's initial leaks focused on data that the U.S. National Security Agency is collecting about Americans, which triggered perfectly reasonable questions about whether the NSA is collecting too much data and whether Americans' privacy rights are being violated.

But in the past week, Snowden's leaks have turned to exposing U.S. spying on world leaders at a G20 conference and, according to a Chinese newspaper, detailing computer hacking attacks by the U.S. on Chinese targets. These leaks seem self-serving and motivated not by concern about Americans but by a desire to curry favor with China and a personal dislike of spying of any kind.

According to Wikileaks, the organization run by another government-hating fugitive, Julian Assange (who is himself hiding from authorities in the arms of Ecuador), Snowden is being escorted to "a democratic country." Once there, Snowden will presumably continue to try to avoid facing the consequences of committing what most people agree were serious crimes.

And, perhaps, if he is treated well in his new country, Snowden will continue to believe that the U.S. government's imperfect efforts to protect Americans are reprehensible and that only in other countries do governments understand what democracy, freedom, and privacy really mean.

It appears that Snowden is driven by a personal philosophy that most mainstream Americans would consider extreme, one that is arguably anti-American, idealistic, and naive.

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#1. To: All (#0)

Now about the hack author, Henry Blodget

www.sec.gov/news/press/2003-56.htm

Seems Henry is a bit of a real criminal himself. He is enthusiastically supporting the same government that bitchslapped him. Is his working for them a part of his settlement?

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Why should we worship in God what we detest in man? -Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2013-06-24   11:14:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: PSUSA2 (#1)

In order to pull off this ruse, they'd need China and Russia to play along. Is that possible?

Support bacteria.

(The world needs more culture)

Obnoxicated  posted on  2013-06-24   11:31:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Obnoxicated (#2)

I dont understand your question. Can you be more specific?

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Why should we worship in God what we detest in man? -Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2013-06-24   11:49:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: PSUSA2 (#1)

Nice catch - thanks.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-06-24   11:53:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: PSUSA2 (#3)

If it's a red herring, as the author seems to be implying, then china and russia would have to be going along with the game.

Support bacteria.

(The world needs more culture)

Obnoxicated  posted on  2013-06-24   12:18:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: PSUSA2 (#0)

Calling Snowden a shill seems to dovetail with a suspicion that popped up in my mind. Suppose Snowden was actually instructed by the US Govt to do what he did, make the announcements he made, reveal the documents he has???

It could have worked this way: The NSA and CIA say to each other, "There are a lot of computer/telecom systems we cannot break into, and even where we can, our computerized filtering for suspicious wording is ineffective, and we only have a tiny fraction of the number of translators we need to analyze this stuff. But what if we make the terrorists believe that we are fully functional, that we can listen to everything everywhere? Some terrorists would quit altogether and others would have to slow way down to use pre-electronic methods of communication." So they pick Snowden and coach him on what to do and say in order to make the world, terrorists included, believe that the US is successful in spying everywhere on everybody. And to make Snowden credible, they go through the motions of trying to chase him down. But since he's really doing the CIA's bidding, they won't really be hard on him.

Shoonra  posted on  2013-06-24   12:34:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Shoonra, Esso (#6) (Edited)

When Esso said he was unsure about Snowdon's credibility, I considered it possible.

But when Shoonra says Snowdon might be doing the CIA's bidding, I question why Esso and I questioned Snowdon in the first place.

No offense intended, Shoon. It simply is what it is.

scrapper2  posted on  2013-06-24   12:49:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: scrapper2, Shoonra, Esso (#7)

don't you know she-ra claims to be one the DC elite.


I used to be in a hurry, then I figured out I was just getting nowhere fast.

IRTorqued  posted on  2013-06-24   14:24:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: PSUSA2 (#0)

You mean it is not BAC from El Pee? ROTFLOL!

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2013-06-24   17:38:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Obnoxicated (#5)

If it's a red herring, as the author seems to be implying, then china and russia would have to be going along with the game.

I dont see why.

The author is focusing on character assassination. I dont see what China and Russia would have to do with that.

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Why should we worship in God what we detest in man? -Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2013-06-24   18:29:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: scrapper2 (#7)

Now that 4um's resident propagandist and Obomba fellator have weighed in with the official mossad/CIA talking points, it lends a lot of credibility to Snowden.

On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-06-24   19:16:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: PSUSA2, all concerned (#0)

his great escape is another finger in the eye of the United States, the country that he once swore to be loyal to.

The U.S. Inc. is comprised today of the most disgusting low-lifes to have ever walked upon God's green earth. This "IMPOSTER" so-called government is nothing more than a cabal of blood-drinking, baby killing, PSYCHOPATHIC butchers that are in preparation to kill many of us.

There have always been bad people on the planet and some have even infested America, but never on the scale we're witnessing for the last 50 years. We owe these murderers nothing. We have a duty to pass freedom on to our descendants and by God we must.

When I think back on Vietnam, which I seldom do, I ask myself did I actually spend a year in that warmonger made shit hole dodging bullets, mortars and rockets so I could come home and be terrorized, spied upon, and droned by the maggots and other parasitic cocksuckers that have invaded D.C. - I think not. I couldn't have imagined the hoops this ungrateful government would force upon me and other vets that went to war for all the right reasons even though we were IGNORANT.

The country that Snowden swore to be loyal to NO LONGER EXISTS except in the feeble minds of cowards that prefer to accept the pretense of freedom to demanding the real thing and doing what ever the fuck is necessary to restore it. Snowden did the right thing and he did it for the country he swore a loyalty oath to. He saw what was happening to the country he swore loyalty to and it was horrifying.

I'd like to think my own concern regarding the state of affairs in America is based upon patriotism but I don't even recogize the country I grew up in. I don't recognize the American people that I once saw as imperfect but strong and committed to live free or die. Being honest, I fucking don't like bullies. I don't like scumbag politicians that hire bullies to go around the world and slaughter children in my (our) name.

Whoever these self-centered murderers are they are heartless sons of ugly bitches that are intentionally destroying the country that Snowden swore loyalty to and regardless of Snowden's motivations, these motherfuckers needed to be outed.

Does anyone really think the Kenyan or John McCain or Charles Schumer, or Diane Feinstein represent America ? Well, if you do or even if you're simply willing to accept their presence in their OFFICIAL capacity then you are on the other side of righteousness and deserve the future those murderers have in store for you.

D.C. is public enemy #1 and the international bankers are public enemy #2. D.C. is legalizing the overthrow and the banksters are financing it while using the tax code to keep you from having the funds to fight back.

Quit supporting the real terrorists. Snowden did.

Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehood’s school. And the one man who dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.

– Plato (429-347 BC)

noone222  posted on  2013-06-25   3:44:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: PSUSA2 (#0)

Although some Americans still support Snowden and consider him a patriot, most Americans now want him tossed in jail.

I don't know any Americans that want him tossed in jail. TV talking heads don't count as Americans as far as I am concerned.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2013-06-25   4:03:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: RickyJ (#13)

TV talking heads don't count as Americans as far as I am concerned.

UN american at best.

Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehood’s school. And the one man who dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.

– Plato (429-347 BC)

noone222  posted on  2013-06-25   4:29:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: noone222, noone222, all (#12)

D.C. is public enemy #1 and the international bankers are public enemy #2. D.C. is legalizing the overthrow and the banksters are financing it while using the tax code to keep you from having the funds to fight back.

It doesn't take funds to destroy them. All it takes is for a percentage of people to withdraw their consent and cooperation.

There were more .gov shills commenting on that article than there have been in the past, but they were still outnumbered. I always read the comments, because they are very telling. They never match the tone of the articles.

The author, however, IS a criminal. The SEC busted him and now he can't have anything to do with trading until he reincarnates, because he's done in this lifetime. He ripped people off.

I wonder if foreign intelligence types read the comments too. I hope they do. They need to know that we are not the same as our government. Russia and China are not MY enemy. They have never done anything to me.

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Why should we worship in God what we detest in man? -Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2013-06-25   8:11:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: RickyJ (#13)

ping to above

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Why should we worship in God what we detest in man? -Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2013-06-25   8:13:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: All (#6)

The US seems remarkably ineffective about chasing Snowden. Especially by charging him, while he was in China, with 'espionage'. Snowden can be assured that, around the world, countries - especially those not entirely friendly to the US - will say to him, "We'll treat you as an honored guest and keep you safe. Please tell us how the US was spying on us."

Snowden will recite his spiel about how thoroughly the US is listening and reading everything. In that foreign country (and also probably some other countries) both the govt and whatever terrorists are wandering around will be intimidated about making electronic communications hostile to the US. Mission accomplished.

Shoonra  posted on  2013-06-25   10:11:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: noone222, Post of the day (#12)

Does anyone really think the Kenyan or John McCain or Charles Schumer, or Diane Feinstein represent America ? Well, if you do or even if you're simply willing to accept their presence in their OFFICIAL capacity then you are on the other side of righteousness and deserve the future those murderers have in store for you.

That was excellent (all of it, not just the part I quoted). Thanks for posting it.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-06-25   10:19:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: James Deffenbach (#18)

Well, thank you !

Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehood’s school. And the one man who dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.

– Plato (429-347 BC)

noone222  posted on  2013-06-25   14:39:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Esso (#11)

Snowden

He sure is getting a lot of zionist propaganda coverage. Like Assange. High profile whistle blower.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-06-25   14:51:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: noone222 (#19)

You're welcome.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-06-25   18:17:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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