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Title: Rand Paul on Bradley Manning Verdict: “I don’t have a lot of sympathy”
Source: ECONOMIC POLICY JOURNAL
URL Source: http://www.economicpolicyjournal.co ... bradley-manning-verdict-i.html
Published: Aug 20, 2013
Author: ROBERT WENZEL
Post Date: 2013-08-20 09:48:40 by Artisan
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There's terrible news out about Rand Paul and comments he has made about Bradley Manning and Edward Snowden.

At a Cato University event, Rand stated that there need to be some laws that protect certain secrets and that Manning put many lives at risk by releasing millions of pages “willy-nilly,” reports DL Magazine.

“There do have to be laws to protect some secrets. I think if you’ve got the, you know, the plans on how to make a nuclear bomb that is a state secret. If you give that to the enemy, that is being treasonous,” said Rand, “Even if you reveal it, you just have to have laws against that. What Manning did was just willy-nilly, just released millions of pages of things and I think some people have said there is potentially some harm from that. You know individual agents that could have been killed or put at risk from this. So there is a problem with that. So I just can’t support that.”

“If you are doing something for a political purpose; you know, in fact, in some ways the Snowden case is a little bit different,” said Paul, “But even with the Snowden case, I still think you have to have laws against what he did. So he did break the law.”

His continued his comments about Snowden in an even more muddled fashion, attempting to hide is views by saying what others might do and not showing any strong support for Snowden

“Snowden, if he were here, could maybe make the defense ‘Well I released this information because I’m a whistle blower. I’m telling you the head of the intelligence agency isn’t telling the truth. So I’m correcting a lie by another official.’ Some have said he would have had an easier time with that argument if he had come to a member of Congress and gone through the official whistleblower, kind of, pathway,” said Paul, “I think they still would have probably put him in jail and thrown away the key.”

DL reported on reaction from the libertarian community on Rand's comments.

The District of Columbia’s Libertarian Party Chairman, Ryan Sabot stated that Rand's “attempts to wipe away credibility, gravity, and value of both Snowden and Manning’s leaks by Senator Paul are distasteful.”

Jayel Aheram, blogger for Young Americans for Liberty, said that he was"disappointed that Sen. Rand Paul chose repeat the lie that Manning’s release and Wikileaks’ publication of the diplomatic cables harmed people. Brig. General Robert Carr, the man who was in charge of the Pentagon’s review of the leaks, admitted during Manning’s trial that no one was killed or harmed by the release of the cables."

Young Americans for Liberty NY State Chair, Taweh Beysolow II said:

It’s very obvious to me that Senator Paul would be against what Bradley Manning and Snowden did simply because he is a politician who has presidential aspirations within the Republican Party. The broad conservative movement does not have sympathy, nor feels empathy for either of these individuals because they feel as if they betrayed this country to some degree, despite how much it works against the Obama administration to their pleasure.Again, it serves more as a reminder that Senator Paul will most likely mimic a George Bush presidency rather than the ideal pie in the sky dream of a libertarian president in my opinion. Subscribe to *RAND PAUL*

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#28. To: Artisan, All, All Adults, All Taxpayers (#0)

Rand stated that there need to be some laws that protect certain secrets

I've been lied to by the U.S. Govt most of my life. The lies have out numbered the truths ever since the CIA (and others) murdered JFK. (I was 13 when Kennedy was gunned down and I'm sure the govt was lying long before that but I wasn't aware).

We have never been treated as adults living in a free and transparent country by the U.S. Govt. Maybe that's because we never acted like adults. We have allowed the liars and thieves that occupy the offices of power to get away with this secrecy and outright lies for so long that it's become their modus operandi.

The secrecy and lies told us by the govt are usually considered by them to be a national security requirement despite our having been the greatest super power on earth at least since 1945 and the end of WW II.

Their lies and secrecy are paid for by the taxpayers. This is tantamount to buying your enemy a gun so he can kill you. It's suicidal.

Rand Paul, Ron Paul, Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin ... blah, blah, blah. If the plumber came to your home and destroyed your plumbing so that your house was flooded would you pay him ? If the fire department came to your house and threw gasoline on the flames would you call them the next time you had a fire ? If you hired a babysitter only to find your kids slaughtered and laying in pools of blood in their beds when you returned home, would you pay the babysitter and take her/him home ?

Well, I think when Americans gather a little backbone and start acting like adults then they may have some chance to live free from the bullies in D.C. We don't have to tolerate their bullying, their lies, their lies about lies, their spying on our every activity, their wars that kill and maim our youth, their banker bailout thefts that caused millions of foreclosures, their treason that has provided control of our monetary system that allegedly finances wars that have indebted our great, great, great, grand-children (if they survive the vaccines that the govt has allowed immunity for BIG PHARMA when they cause death or autism) so that we might ENJOY $4.00 gasoline today. [Gimme a break].

Children often tolerate extensive abuse at the hands of cruel adults. Often, even children are smart enough to run away from home. What is really wrong with Americans ? Why are we allowing these criminal bullies to even exist ?

Personally, I think it's time for Americans to grow up and stop cowering before the bully U.S. Govt. and voting for the new boss same as the old boss. It's unamerican to vote for or fund these butchers. It's really that simple and the inconvenience or harm incurred is the cost of freedom. What you save today by paying them tribute or by lying to avoid it is only a temporary measure. These criminals are coming for everything we have ever imagined we owned and our imagined liberty ... and they couldn't care less about the "rules" !

Just say no to drugs and FUCK YOU to Uncle Sambo !

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#38. To: noone222 (#28)

Personally, I think it's time for Americans to grow up and stop cowering before the bully U.S. Govt. and voting for the new boss same as the old boss. It's unamerican to vote for or fund these butchers. It's really that simple and the inconvenience or harm incurred is the cost of freedom. What you save today by paying them tribute or by lying to avoid it is only a temporary measure. These criminals are coming for everything we have ever imagined we owned and our imagined liberty ... and they couldn't care less about the "rules" !

Just say no to drugs and FUCK YOU to Uncle Sambo !

Great post and you summed it all up very well.

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