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Title: Esso
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Published: Nov 27, 2013
Author: C
Post Date: 2013-11-27 09:50:44 by christine
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I received an email from Esso (Jim) this morning. He was involved in a very serious car accident last night. It was a head on collision. Jim's car is totaled. He sustained a fractured sternum, lacerated spleen, the doctor's suspect heart damage and internal bleeding.

Jim is one of the most unselfish, generous, good hearted men I have ever met. I think the world of him.

Please think healing thoughts or prayers of a speedy recovery for him.

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#1. To: christine (#0)

Sorry to read this bad news. Hope he will be all healed up soon.

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-11-27   9:52:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine (#0)

Prayers up for our friend.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-11-27   9:57:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#0)

Please think healing thoughts or prayers of a speedy recovery for him.

Amen.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

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Original_Intent  posted on  2013-11-27   9:59:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine (#0)

I'm glad he survived, and prayers for a speedy recovery.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-11-27   10:16:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine (#0)

Esso will keep the faith and all will be right.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-11-27   10:22:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: christine (#0)

Please think healing thoughts or prayers of a speedy recovery for him.

Here's to a miraculous recovery!!!

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Hmmmmm  posted on  2013-11-27   10:32:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: christine (#0)

Esso's comments never fail to make me smile. One of my favorite members of 4. Good that he's able to send mail.

Deasy  posted on  2013-11-27   11:03:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: christine, Esso (#0)

If he's well enough to send an email, then it could have been much worse. That's a good start.

Get well soon, Jim.

Pinguinite  posted on  2013-11-27   11:05:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: christine (#0)

Damn. Will do.

"If an angry bigot assumes this bountiful cause of Abolition, and comes to me with his last news from Barbados, why should I not say to him, 'Go love thy infant; love thy wood-chopper: be good-natured and modest; have that grace; and never varnish your hard, uncharitable ambition with this incredible tenderness for black folk a thousand miles off. Thy love afar is spite at home.'"
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson, Self-Reliance

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2013-11-27   11:15:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: christine, Esso (#0)

Thank you for the head's up Christine.

Here's hoping for a speedy recovery, Jim!!

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-11-27   11:19:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: christine, esso (#0)

get well soon esso, Gods love be with you as we praise his name that he allows us the pleasure of your company for awhile longer yet. Heal strong, we'll all be saying a prayer for you.

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titorite  posted on  2013-11-27   11:30:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: christine (#0)

one of my favorites, prayers for his speedy recovery. and thanks for letting us know.


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farmfriend  posted on  2013-11-27   11:58:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: christine (#0)

Wow, so sorry to hear this news ... prayers are in motion.

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The Dearborn Independent / Henry Ford

noone222  posted on  2013-11-27   12:02:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Deasy, christine (#7)

Esso's comments never fail to make me smile.

Ditto for me.

Best wishes for a speedy recovery, Esso!

scrapper2  posted on  2013-11-27   12:03:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: scrapper2, all, update (#14)

I just spoke to Jim. He's been discharged as he's able to walk and they've done all they can do for him. His cellphone was crushed, so he's going to Verizon to get another. Jim said he's in much pain due to the horizontal fracture of his sternum. More later....

To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.

christine  posted on  2013-11-27   12:55:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: christine (#15)

Thanks.

Do you know if the airbags deployed?

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-11-27   12:57:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Lod (#16)

Yes. They did.

To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.

christine  posted on  2013-11-27   13:02:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Esso (#17) (Edited)

Do you have your new cellphone and truck yet?

Heal!

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-11-27   17:11:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: christine, Esso (#15)

He's been discharged as he's able to walk

Thanking God.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-11-27   18:20:37 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: GreyLmist, Esso, 4 (#19)

Amen.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-11-27   18:24:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: christine, Esso (#0)

Thank you for keeping us informed, Christine.

Esso, get well soon my buddy, there are many more battles to fight.

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus

Dakmar  posted on  2013-11-27   19:18:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: christine, Esso (#15)

He's been discharged as he's able to walk

Wow, that's amazing. Esso's blessed.

I was in the hospital for nine months after a traffic wreck. I can imagine what Jim's going through.

Best of luck & I know you'll really have something to be thankful for tomorrow.

Happy Thanksgiving, old paint!

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randge  posted on  2013-11-27   19:51:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: scrapper2, Esso (#14)

"Aus der Kriegsschule des Lebens. - Was mich nicht umbringt, macht mich stärker." --Nietzsche

www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/7203/pg7203.html

Deasy  posted on  2013-11-28   7:08:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Esso (#0)

Best wishes.

Looking forward to having you back online as soon as you're up for it.

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Buzzard  posted on  2013-11-28   10:30:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: randge (#22)

9 months??? what were your injuries?

To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.

christine  posted on  2013-11-28   11:19:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: christine (#25)

Smashed femur, near fatal blood loss, nerve damage, concussion covers most of it.

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randge  posted on  2013-11-28   12:17:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: christine, James Deffenbach, Lod, Original_Intent, Jethro Tull, Cynicom, Hmmmmm, Deasy, Pinguinite, Prefrontal Vortex, X-15, titorite, farmfriend, noone222, scrapper2, GreyLmist, Dakmar, randge, Buzzard, 4um, All (#0) (Edited)

Thank you, everyone, for the kind words.

Here's what happened: At about 6:00pm on Tuesday I was travelling northbound on Maplecrest Road in the company 2007 Honda Fit wagon. I approached the stoplight at Lake Avenue which was green to continue on northbound. The turn arrow for northbound traffic to proceed west on Lake was also activated. The northbound turn arrow went to solid green (yield for turn) and both southbound lights went solid green (proceed straight, yield for turn eastbound).

When that happened, the driver in the southbound lane turning east must've thought it was a green arrow and darted into the intersection directly in my path about 30 feet in front of me. I was travelling 40-45mph (speed limit 45) and slammed directly into them head-on.

The event probably lasted about a quarter of a second. I didn't even have time to lift my foot off the gas. The last thing I remember was the initial sound of the crunching metal then I was out.

When I came to, the police, fire trucks and ambulances were there. I knew I was hurt pretty badly. The firemen removed my coat in the car and slid me out onto the backboard and strapped me onto it and taped my head down. A cop got in my face and told me it was pretty obvious that the other driver was at fault and not to worry, I would be taken care of. Into the ambulance I went.

Enroute to the Parkview Trauma Center, they went to work on me cutting my clothes off, right down to my boxer-briefs, hooked up their electrical DooDads to me and worked me over with their tools of the trade. At that point, I was alert, lucid and able to answer all of their questions and monitor my vital statistics.

My blood pressure was running about 200 systolic, pulse was in the high 100s, glucose was high, cardiac rhythm was OK. The high readings were probably caused mostly by shock and fright.

They got me to the hospital and did their hospital stuff. Bottom line: Fractured sternum, lacerated spleen, just about all my internal organs showed signs of stress from the impact, but not too much internal bleeding. The only visible injuries were a small scrape on my left pinky and my right knee. They took me up to the room, hooked up their monitors, IVs, etc. They started me on pain killers and Pepcid. Trying to sit up caused me much dizziness but it passed. I tried to sleep, but they had pressure cuffs on my lower legs that would inflate and deflate every minute or so which kept me awake all night.

The next morning some young cocky punk doctor came in and I told him I wanted the hell out of there. He told me I couldn't even walk and needed to stay longer. I told him of course I couldn't walk with all their tubes and wires hooked to me and to take them off and I'd walk. He did and I did. Then he said I wouldn't be released until I ate something and was able to keep it down. I ate and was fine. I was released about 1:00pm Wednesday.

I am one, hurting sumbitch. Any upper body movement causes a shearing pain in me that about makes me pass out. Mundane tasks such as putting on my socks is a lesson in pain. Bending, twisting and lifting are out for awhile. Walking isn't too bad. The painkillers they gave me don't seem to help the pain much, but they sure make me feel crappy and tired. I'm going to try to get into my GP tomorrow, my fingers started going numb today, that has me a little concerned.

All-in-all, I'm doing OK. Your kind words mean a lot to me.

Thanks,
Jim

Edit: I saw the Honda yesterday and recovered my belongings out of it. The car is totaled. The entire front end of the car is destroyed and twisted badly. The engine is pushed into the firewall, windshield is broken from the unibody distortion. Driver's side front airbag is deployed. The driver's side B column is distorted and the seatbelt is destroyed. There is a lot of damage to the inside of the car from the G forces. The impact turned my reading glasses into a pretzel, and my fancy new metal e-cigarette which was sitting on the passenger seat was broken in half and badly dented. My cellphone which was clipped to my belt was nonfunctional. And I just filled up the goddamned gas tank that morning. Dammit.

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Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-11-28   18:04:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Esso (#27)

Jim, we're sending over a lap dancer ASAP.

Get well soon, man ... the best place is any place that ain't a hospital.

"The amount of our National Debt is the measure of our enslavement to Jewish World Finance. We live in a democracy, yet loans are contracted that always cost more than the amount of the loan, and no one has a word to say about it. We Americans do not know how much interest we pay every year, and we don't know to whom we pay it."

The Dearborn Independent / Henry Ford

noone222  posted on  2013-11-28   18:10:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Esso (#27)

Thanks for the update. Hope you heal up soon and all this will just be a bad, but passing, memory.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-11-28   18:26:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Esso (#27)

Thanks for the information.

Good idea to see your GP asap.

Continued prayers, lod

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-11-28   19:12:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Esso (#27)

Iron man.

Glad to hear you're home in one piece.

Just goes to show that you never know how fate may turn when you get up out of the sack in the morning.

Have you heard what happened to the putz that pulled out in front of you?

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randge  posted on  2013-11-28   19:16:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: noone222, Esso (#28)

Jim, we're sending over a lap dancer ASAP.

In case Esso is not up to a lap dance, I would be willing to sub for him.

Thats what friends are for.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-11-28   20:15:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Esso (#27)

They got me to the hospital and did their hospital stuff. Bottom line: Fractured sternum, lacerated spleen, just about all my internal organs showed signs of stress from the impact, but not too much internal bleeding. The only visible injuries were a small scrape on my left pinky and my right knee. They took me up to the room, hooked up their monitors, IVs, etc. They started me on pain killers and Pepcid. Trying to sit up caused me much dizziness but it passed. I tried to sleep, but they had pressure cuffs on my lower legs that would inflate and deflate every minute or so which kept me awake all night.

good grief. this is the first ive seen this. Sounds like quite an accident. Im very sorry that happened, but glad you are ok enough to post and be on the internet. Me & my wife will be praying for your continued recovery, take good care.

Ive always heard of a 'ruptured spleen.' im gonna have to look up & see what a 'spleen' is. ;-/

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2013-11-28   20:37:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Cynicom (#32)

lol - take a number on this one.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-11-28   20:39:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Cynicom (#32)

I was once thrown from a Jeep when I was 18. I rolled across the highway, across the meridian, across the other side of the highway, and came to rest in the ditch. I wasn't hurt but when I stood up my socks and boots were gone. I never found them.

"Have Brain, Will Travel

Turtle  posted on  2013-11-28   21:28:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Esso (#27) (Edited)

Prayer for Healing

Lord, look upon me with eyes of mercy, may your healing hand rest upon me, may your lifegiving powers flow into every cell of my body and into the depths of my soul, cleansing, purifying, restoring me to wholeness and strength for service in your Kingdom. Amen.

Prayer for Healing

O God who are the only source of health and healing, the spirit of calm and the central peace of this universe, grant to me such a consciousness of your indwelling and surrounding presence that I may permit you to give me health and strength and peace, through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen.

Prayer for the Sick

Omnipotent and eternal God, the everlasting Salvation of those who believe, hear us on behalf of Thy sick servant, N., for whom we beg the aid of Thy pitying mercy, that, with his bodily health restored, he may give thanks to Thee in Thy church. Through Christ our Lord. Amen.

This one is also very interesting:

http://www.catholichealingprayers. com/

Healing Scriptures

The following scripture passages have the power to bring healing and strength to your heart, mind, body, soul and spirit. Meditate on them day and night. Allow God to speak to your situation through his written Word. Accept the Word of God as if the Lord himself were speaking directly to you. Take what is being said deep into your heart.

Allow your faith to grow to the point where you can command the mountain of sickness, hardship and despair out of your life. For according to Mark 11:23– 24, Jesus says, “Truly I tell you, if you say to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and thrown into the sea,’ and if you do not doubt in your heart, but believe that what you say will come to pass, it will be done for you. So I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.”

Exodus 15:26

Exodus 23:25

Deuteronomy 7:15

Deuteronomy 28:1–14

Deuteronomy 30:19–20

I Kings 8:56

Psalm 91

Psalm 103:1–3

Psalm 107:19–20

Psalm 118:17

Proverbs 4:20–22

Isaiah 41:10

Isaiah 53:4–5

Jeremiah 1:12

Jeremiah 30:17

Matthew 8:1–3

Matthew 8:17

Matthew 18:18–19

Matthew 21:21–22

Mark 11:23–24

Mark 16:17–18

John 10:10

Romans 4:16–21

Romans 8:11

II Corinthians 10:4–5

Galatians 3:13–14

Ephesians 6:10–17

Philippians 2:13

Philippians 4:6–7

II Timothy 1:7

Hebrews 10:23

Hebrews 10:35

Hebrews 13:8

James 5:14–16

I Peter 2:24

I John 3:21–22


Books of the Bible (online Bible)

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2013-11-28   21:32:23 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Turtle (#35)

Driving by the median, I found one sock.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-11-28   21:32:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Lod (#37)

Driving by the median, I found one sock.

If there was a foot in it, then it's not mine.

"Have Brain, Will Travel

Turtle  posted on  2013-11-28   21:46:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Esso (#27)

And I just filled up the goddamned gas tank that morning. Dammit.

Bummer Dude! ;-)

Glad you're around to relate the experience.

Now hurry up and finish healing before you get me to telling "Sea Stories" about my visit to the Cardiac ICU last year. :-)

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-11-28   22:47:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Cynicom, noone222, Esso (#32)

Jim, we're sending over a lap dancer ASAP.

In case Esso is not up to a lap dance, I would be willing to sub for him.

Thats what friends are for.

You sir, have a hard heart of gold. :-)

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-11-28   22:50:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: randge (#31)

Have you heard what happened to the putz that pulled out in front of you?

No, not really. I asked the ambulance attendants if anyone else was hurt. and they said no, they refused treatment. I asked if any children were involved and they said no again.

I'll probably go downtown Monday and get the police report and see what it says. I don't know anything about what is being claimed by the other driver or witnesses, if any.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-11-28   23:05:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Esso (#27)

I'm glad you made it through, bro. Sounds like a life changing experience.

I think about that once in awhile. It could happen to me or anyone else in a split second.

Best wishes,

Fred

Fred Mertz  posted on  2013-11-28   23:29:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Turtle (#35)

across the meridian

WTF is meridian?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2013-11-28   23:31:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Cynicom, noone222, 4um (#32)

In case Esso is not up to a lap dance, I would be willing to sub for him.

Go ahead, OM. I'm not up for much jostling around right now. Last night, one of my gal friends went to hug me which was not what I needed right then. When I got home, I sat down on the couch and laid down on my side. When I did, this intense shear of pain went through me, my vision when went pure white like someone shining a spotlight in my eyes, I had this wave of intense dizziness and nausea come over me, I thought I was going to throw up which would be damned painful. I won't be doing that again anytime soon.

Now if you happen to know of a good nursemaid (thin, beautiful, smart, 29-42) to help me get my socks on & off, we'll talk. If you're wondering, I'm 52 and can afford to be picky. Damned picky.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-11-28   23:40:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Esso, Lod, scrapper2, HOUNDDAWG (#44)

I agree with Lod on visiting a GP. Keep the acerbic wit coming.

Deasy  posted on  2013-11-29   1:42:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Fred Mertz (#43)

I rolled across the highway, across the meridian, across the other side of the highway, and came to rest in the ditch.

WTF is meridian?

Hmmm.... Must be one of these:

1.Geography .
a) a great circle of the earth passing through the poles and any given point on the earth's surface.
b) the half of such a circle included between the poles.
2.Astronomy . the great circle of the celestial sphere that passes through its poles and the observer's zenith.
3.a point or period of highest development, greatest prosperity, or the like.
4.(in acupuncture) any of the pathways in the body along which vital energy flows.
adjective
5.of or pertaining to a meridian.
6.of or pertaining to midday or noon: the meridian hour.
7.of or indicating a period of greatest prosperity, splendor, success, etc.

My guess is #3 or #4.

Pinguinite  posted on  2013-11-29   1:47:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Esso (#27)

Almost 20 years while in my Eagle Talon I broadsided an SUV that was travelling the opposite direction but went to make a U-turn right in front of me. I had no airbag, but my seatbelt was on.

Car was totalled... Front end was maybe 1.5 feet shorter than it was before, but I felt okay immediately afterwards. About 2 weeks later couldn't swing a baseball bat. Discovered how wonderful the treatment of chiropractic can be. Took several months of that, and needed more sessions a few years later. I think the seat belt's single point of restraint across the center of my chest was the reason, which caused strain & micro damage at that point on my backbone. Perhaps the airbag served you a bit better.

Keep chiro in mind, starting in maybe a month. Thanks for the report.

Pinguinite  posted on  2013-11-29   2:00:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Pinguinite, Fred Mertz, Turtle (#46)

median strip

n. Eastern, Midwestern, & Southern U.S.

The dividing area, either paved or landscaped, between opposing lanes of traffic on some highways. Also called median; also called regionally boulevard, mall1, medial strip, meridian, neutral ground. See Regional Note at neutral ground.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition

www.thefreedictionary.com/median+strip

Deasy  posted on  2013-11-29   2:02:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Esso (#44)

(thin, beautiful, smart, 29-42)

leaves me out. one out of 4 ain't bad.


A study group recently released its findings as to the best presidents of the United States of America.

Obama has been rated as the 4th best president ever:

Reagan and 9 others tied for first, 15 presidents tied for second, 18 tied for third, and Obama came in fourth.

farmfriend  posted on  2013-11-29   2:05:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Turtle (#35)

my socks and boots were gone. I never found them.

some turtle probably made off with them.


A study group recently released its findings as to the best presidents of the United States of America.

Obama has been rated as the 4th best president ever:

Reagan and 9 others tied for first, 15 presidents tied for second, 18 tied for third, and Obama came in fourth.

farmfriend  posted on  2013-11-29   2:11:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: farmfriend, turtle (#50)

some turtle probably made off with them.

A+++

Snicker hehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2013-11-29   6:59:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Esso (#44)

I truly wish you a speedy recovery, Esso !

"The amount of our National Debt is the measure of our enslavement to Jewish World Finance. We live in a democracy, yet loans are contracted that always cost more than the amount of the loan, and no one has a word to say about it. We Americans do not know how much interest we pay every year, and we don't know to whom we pay it."

The Dearborn Independent / Henry Ford

noone222  posted on  2013-11-29   7:04:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Fred Mertz (#43)

across the meridian

Where I'm from we called them meridians. It's the grassy area on an interstate between the two lanes.

"Have Brain, Will Travel

Turtle  posted on  2013-11-29   8:01:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Deasy (#48)

n. Eastern, Midwestern, & Southern U.S.

I'm from the Midwest.

"Have Brain, Will Travel

Turtle  posted on  2013-11-29   8:03:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: farmfriend (#50)

some turtle probably made off with them

Insolent puppy gets smacked on its nose with a rolled-up newspaper.

"Have Brain, Will Travel

Turtle  posted on  2013-11-29   8:05:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Esso (#27)

Sorry you got hurt, but I'm very glad you survived this. I hope you heal fully and quickly.

Ferret  posted on  2013-11-29   8:31:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Cynicom (#56)

A++ to Cyni for being such a selfless friend. ;)

To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.

christine  posted on  2013-11-29   10:41:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Turtle (#55)

Insolent puppy gets smacked on its nose with a rolled-up newspaper.

hey you walked into that one.


A study group recently released its findings as to the best presidents of the United States of America.

Obama has been rated as the 4th best president ever:

Reagan and 9 others tied for first, 15 presidents tied for second, 18 tied for third, and Obama came in fourth.

farmfriend  posted on  2013-11-29   13:33:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: christine (#57)

It's just wonderful how some people will just go ahead and do just about anything for a friend, isn't it? Thinking nothing of his own happiness, he volunteered for that lap dance meant for someone else. >(;^{] Just about brought a tear to my eye.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-11-29   13:38:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: James Deffenbach, Esso, Cynicom, 4 (#59)

interesting bus ride -

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-11-29   13:50:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Esso (#27)

The car is totaled. The entire front end of the car is destroyed and twisted badly. The engine is pushed into the firewall, windshield is broken from the unibody distortion.

Jim, you're fortunate to walk away from that one. That's what the Honda is designed to do: crumple up like a cheap beer can and absorb as much energy as possible. Like others have mentioned, line up a good chiropractor.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-11-29   13:51:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Esso (#44)

I hope for your sake you recover soon, Esso. Take it easy on the hugs right now. I cannot imagine the pain you're going through. I'm real surprised you survived.

purplerose  posted on  2013-11-29   14:11:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: farmfriend (#58)

hey you walked into that one.

smack smack smack yelp yelp yelp.

"Have Brain, Will Travel

Turtle  posted on  2013-11-29   14:29:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Turtle (#63)

LOL


A study group recently released its findings as to the best presidents of the United States of America.

Obama has been rated as the 4th best president ever:

Reagan and 9 others tied for first, 15 presidents tied for second, 18 tied for third, and Obama came in fourth.

farmfriend  posted on  2013-11-29   16:15:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Lod (#60)

I am speechless.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-11-29   19:41:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Lod (#60)

interesting bus ride -

I think that is the k-13 route, that bus is always that crowded.

“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele

“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb

“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm  posted on  2013-11-29   19:43:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: James Deffenbach, Hmmmmm, 4 (#65)

Shortened into a commercial, that vid would get folks behind mass transit, imo.

I know that I'd give it a ride.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-11-29   20:30:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Lod (#67)

I know that I'd give it a ride.

And the bus too? ahaha.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-11-29   20:45:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Esso (#44)

I hope to hear that your feeling even better today. Get well soon.

______________________________________

Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.

titorite  posted on  2013-11-30   11:26:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Esso (#27) (Edited)

Fractured sternum

It sounds like someone did CPR chest-compressions while you were unconcious. That can result in broken sternums and possibly heart bruising. Broken sternums can take 10-24 weeks to heal. Something like these elastic supports might help reduce the pain:

Elastic Rib Belt

Rib Belt / Chest Support

For nausea from pain, try peppermint tea or candy, ginger ale pop or ginger root tea, or coca cola syrup (namebrand example: Flents) sold at drugstores.

Edited for spelling.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-11-30   21:19:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Esso (#27)

How to Treat Sternal Fractures - eHow

6. Do not expect to have the injured sternum wrapped or placed in any type of cast as would be done with a fractured arm or leg. It is believed that the best healing occurs when you are able to breathe and move regularly rather than in a restricted manner.

8. ...support the area as well as you can so that movement is not excruciatingly painful.

Seat belts are often the cause of sternal fractures (although they prevent much worse injuries from occuring

6 and 8 seem contradictory.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-11-30   21:36:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: GreyLmist (#70)

My best guess is that the air bag did in Esso's sternum.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-11-30   21:49:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Lod, Esso (#72)

My best guess is that the air bag did in Esso's sternum.

You might be right. They can cause severe injuries and if they can break a windshield, like this site mentions, I suppose they could break bones too:

Did I Fracture My Sternum?

In the Comments section there, someone wrote that wrapping a sternum injury can cause pneumonia. They also wrote that they still had chronic pain two years later. Maybe not wrapping is why. Another person said that hiccups caused them extreme pain. As long as someone isn't diabetic, I think some sugar on the tongue might help to stop hiccups quickly.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-11-30   23:16:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: GreyLmist, Esso, 4 (#73)

Back when, a horse and I went down resulting in fractured ribs and a punctured lung which put me in the hospital, flat on my back for a week.

Things like this take serious bed-rest to heal.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-11-30   23:57:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Lod (#74)

Rest is best, no doubt. Did you have to have surgery? Did they wrap your ribs back then or not?

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-12-01   0:42:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Esso (#27)

Holy cow.

Not a helluvalot can be done for a sternum!

One idea: Apply dmso. Might speed healing.

"If an angry bigot assumes this bountiful cause of Abolition, and comes to me with his last news from Barbados, why should I not say to him, 'Go love thy infant; love thy wood-chopper: be good-natured and modest; have that grace; and never varnish your hard, uncharitable ambition with this incredible tenderness for black folk a thousand miles off. Thy love afar is spite at home.'"
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson, Self-Reliance

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2013-12-02   16:00:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: 4um, all, LATEST UPDATE (#76) (Edited)

[ Body of post deleted and archived to PM, too personal]

Thanks everyone for your kindness & concern.

Jim, alias Esso

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-12-02   20:21:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: All, wreck pic (#77) (Edited)

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The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-12-02   20:51:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Esso (#77)

My career is most likely over. The limits of her liability insurance might cover a year and a half of my salary. Her auto medical insurance is probably already near the limits then my car insurance takes over and will probably will exhaust itself quickly at which time my health insurance takes over and will also probably hit the million dollar lifetime limit. Xxxxx is saying rehabilitation may take years. I hope to hell he's wrong.

People here are telling me how lucky I am to be alive and should be grateful for it. I'm not so sure about that.

Jim, I have been worried about you. You are going to have to take it very easy on yourself for a while.

Her liability insurance may not be all that she has. If she has any assets it is likely that she has an umbrella policy. Also, look into the uninsured/under insured policy on the vehicle you were driving. Were you in a company vehicle? There are generally umbrella and under insured coverage available for this sort of incident.

Give your self and your body much needed rest. Folks are right that it is a blessing that you are alive. You have more to do and you will get through this. Remember, what doesn't kill us makes us stronger and everything happens for a reason, even the crappy things. We are all sending you prayers and best wishes.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2013-12-02   20:52:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Esso (#77)

Take it one day at a time, Esso. Healing takes time. Especially what you've been through.

purplerose  posted on  2013-12-02   21:06:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Esso (#77)

Jim, believe me when I tell you, your recovery is largely in your hands. You are still young enough to bounce back from this set back. It won't be easy; I couldn't get out of bed unassisted for two weeks when I went down, but I soon decided to become the physical therapist's best patient. I realize this might seem a long way off for you now, but may I suggest you make it your goal too?

Beat whatever is in front of you, you survived for a reason.

Peace brother.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-12-02   21:26:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Esso (#77)

Damn Bro -

Best wishes for a great night's rest tonight.

Nothing can beat a solid rest for healing.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-12-02   21:30:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Jethro Tull (#81) (Edited)

I'll do what I can, Tom, but this one's largely in the hands of the creator, not the hands of men.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-12-02   21:35:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Lod (#82) (Edited)

Best wishes for a great night's rest tonight.

Thanks, Loddy.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-12-02   21:48:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Esso (#83)

Don't give up the ship.

All joking aside, one of the reasons I am still here is that, among my many vices, I am stubborn as hell.

Don't let a little reversal get you down. Look for ways to keep busy and enjoy life. Life is good. I have my artwork and music, and I need to get back to writing.

However, the greatest jewel of all is having friends that care.

Be well, and get well.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-12-02   22:28:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: GreyLmist (#73)

They also wrote that they still had chronic pain two years later.

oooh noooo.

To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.

christine  posted on  2013-12-02   22:52:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Original_Intent (#85)

love that sentiment, Warren.

To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.

christine  posted on  2013-12-02   22:53:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: christine (#87)

Merci Madame Bon. :-)

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-12-02   22:56:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Esso (#77)

Aye, you are in a bad way. I always want to help those in suffering. Alas... This is one of those things. If you have Keegan water or know someone with a Keegan machine... IF ANY OF YOU READING THIS HAS A KEEGAN WATER FILTER Maybe take to esso for three to eight weeks :). The Keegan thing makes cleaner better water that honestly can stimulate and accelerate healing. However the Keegan people are remarkably proud of their expensive device. ....

Otherwise only rest and light movement will make you right.... I wish I could offer more or do more. Your road maybe hard but you're alive , you get to keep all your limbs, no permeant brain damage requiring short busses and caretakers... I am very glad you felt strong enough to update us. Rest easy and know our prayers and love is with you. May Christ be with you.

______________________________________

Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.

titorite  posted on  2013-12-03   0:57:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: christine, Esso (#0)

I've been absent so I was late getting the news but, thank you, chris for alerting us (and me) about the accident..

And, Jim, having re-broken the same poorly knitted rib three more times in twenty years and having it nick my lung and result in a nasty infection the last time, I can only sympathize with what must be considerably more discomfort than I endured. (It required surgery to clean out the messy 4-inch thick infection hanging on my lung and finally repair the rib)

The worst part was waking up and discovering that a balloon catheter was inserted after I went under. (There were only women in the super chilly OR!)

But, seriously Jim, I have two things to recommend; OXYCONTIN and COD LIVER OIL. The injury to your sternum will require heap big medicine so you can sleep, and the CLO will greatly minimize the constipation that narcotics often cause.

The new (brand med) OXYCONTIN contains something to minimize off label abuse, i.e., crushing and shooting and/or snorting and I've been told that some people have complained about the pills passing through without even dissolving. When I took the original compound they were the most effective oral med and you could have cut my head off with a chainsaw without me feeling much. And, they ain't cheap even with prescription coverage, but at least try them if you require serious amelioration of any pain.

Please don't be afraid to ask your doctor for what you want. All MDs are so gun shy these days (thanks to the FEDs who would rather shoot pain patients than permit the freedom to self medicate) that you'll end up seriously under-medicated (with 5 mg Percocet) if you don't assert your need for relief.

Managing our health in general and moderate to severe long term pain in particular is a partnership and there's no reason for anyone to suffer when relief is readily available. (We aren't sheep and we don't seek treatment from Vets)

If the med you have ain't makin' it then call the doctor immediately! Don't wait until it's time for a refill.

I am so sorry to learn of your accident and despite the fact that it could have been worse, it's not unusual for soft tissue injuries (i.e., neck and back muscles) to manifest days or even weeks after the initial trauma. And your sternum injury may granulate fairly slow and not without regular reminders not to roll over,, roll your shoulders forward, breathe, etc.,.

I'll feel better if I know that you or better yet an assertive advocate is seeing to your needs. And, you may want to use a driver and protect yourself with a large, firm pillow when riding shotgun in the unlikely event of another airbag deployment.

Please take care.

_JimDAWG

"Privileged information is the ambrosia of elitists. It gives them a sense of power, and the human ego loves to feed from the trough of power."

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2013-12-03   8:25:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Update (#90)

Please think healing thoughts and pray for Jim. He wrote earlier to let me know that his condition seems to be worsening. He's scheduled an emergency appointment with his physician for morning.

To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.

christine  posted on  2013-12-04   0:13:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: christine, Esso (#91)

Thanks for the update, Christine. Prayers up for Jim.

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“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-12-04   0:23:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: christine (#91)

Thanks for the update. Hope that things will start improving soon.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-12-04   1:31:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: christine (#91)

Best wishes and prayers for Jim. Please let us know the results of his appointment this morning.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2013-12-04   10:10:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: christine, Esso, HOUNDDAWG, Dakmar, Prefrontal Vortex, Horse, Jethro Tull (#91)

*!%$#@%@&. &*+=#.

Deasy  posted on  2013-12-04   12:06:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Deasy, Hmmmmm, All (#95)

I just spoke to Jim. The good news is that the internal bleeding seems to have ceased. His red blood cell count has stabilized. The not so good news is that he does have a concussion. His doctor is sending him for brain and spinal MRIs next week.

All in all, Jim sounded much better and more positive this morning.

To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.

christine  posted on  2013-12-04   13:12:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: christine (#96)

All in all, good news, thanks.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-12-04   13:17:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: christine, Esso, Lod (#96)

Nausea and white flashes may have been indications of concussion. Given everything else that happened it's hard to nail those symptoms down to just that. Lod's advice to see a GP was spot on.

Deasy  posted on  2013-12-04   23:41:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Esso, christine (#96)

Jim, you hanging in there?? Give us an update!!!

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“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-12-07   19:40:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: X-15, Esso (#99)

Amen.

Ring in brother.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-12-07   21:11:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: christine (#96)

All in all, Jim sounded much better and more positive this morning.

Keeping him in my heart and prayers. Recover swiftly Esso. And remember, God loves you :)

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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.

titorite  posted on  2013-12-07   21:56:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: titorite (#101)

God loves you

Maybe, but Odin sure seems to be pissed off at me.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-12-07   22:21:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Esso (#102)

Maybe, but Odin sure seems to be pissed off at me.

I swear this is true.

This last Halloween about 11:00 PM some young lady ran through my neighborhood screaming ODIN repeatedly at the top of her lungs. As near as I could tell, it went on for about 15 - 20 minutes.

It had not happened before or since.

Any thoughts?

It's the bankers fault !

Buzzard  posted on  2013-12-08   10:37:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Buzzard (#103)

Stuff happens, south of the river.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-12-08   10:42:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Buzzard (#103)

This last Halloween about 11:00 PM some young lady ran through my neighborhood screaming ODIN repeatedly at the top of her lungs.

Any thoughts?

Too much Jägermeister.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-12-08   11:26:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: christine, Esso (#96)

The road to recovery on something of this magnitude is never a smooth one. Hang in there.

Pinguinite  posted on  2013-12-08   12:16:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: christine, Esso (#96)

All in all, Jim sounded much better and more positive this morning.

Good.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-12-08   12:54:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: cynicom, christine, 4um, freinds, newbies, X-15, Lod, pinguinite, all (#0)

And sure, bring someone new in. Be happy to repopulate the place again.

Jim isn't going to recover, he just wants to say goodbye to all my erstwhile friends.

Jim's wife divorced him ASAP after the accident, because she didn't "want to be married to a cripple and a retard."

Well, I'm still here, barely, but hell pinguinite wants more folks here.

Do it up kiddos, me and Cynicom can't hold this joint up forever...

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2020-02-10   6:28:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: X-15, 4um (#108)

(Cute cat in a zen pose)

Positive energy is all around you...

Jim,

I know you've got a lot on you're plate right now, I hope you get on the mend real quick.

If you need a friendly voice to to don't hesitate to call me!!

cell xxx-xxx-xxx

xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.com

...feel that energyand know that I'm always sending you good vibrations.

Xxxx X.

"X-15"

(at the bottom)
freedom4um

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2020-02-10   6:50:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: 4um (#109) (Edited)

Hey, these are the folks that've been here since 2013!

Hey! look at the names, look at the dates!

Fvck, forget the politics, please! Just live. Go with God.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2020-02-10   6:53:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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