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Published: Nov 27, 2013
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Post Date: 2013-11-27 09:50:44 by christine
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I received an email from Esso (Jim) this morning. He was involved in a very serious car accident last night. It was a head on collision. Jim's car is totaled. He sustained a fractured sternum, lacerated spleen, the doctor's suspect heart damage and internal bleeding.
Jim is one of the most unselfish, generous, good hearted men I have ever met. I think the world of him.
Please think healing thoughts or prayers of a speedy recovery for him.
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#71. To: Esso (#27)
How to Treat Sternal Fractures - eHow

6. Do not expect to have the injured sternum wrapped or placed in any type of cast as would be done with a fractured arm or leg. It is believed that the best healing occurs when you are able to breathe and move regularly rather than in a restricted manner.
8. ...support the area as well as you can so that movement is not excruciatingly painful.
Seat belts are often the cause of sternal fractures (although they prevent much worse injuries from occuring

6 and 8 seem contradictory.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-11-30 21:36:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#72. To: GreyLmist (#70)
My best guess is that the air bag did in Esso's sternum.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2013-11-30 21:49:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#73. To: Lod, Esso (#72)
My best guess is that the air bag did in Esso's sternum.

You might be right. They can cause severe injuries and if they can break a windshield, like this site mentions, I suppose they could break bones too:
Did I Fracture My Sternum?
In the Comments section there, someone wrote that wrapping a sternum injury can cause pneumonia. They also wrote that they still had chronic pain two years later. Maybe not wrapping is why. Another person said that hiccups caused them extreme pain. As long as someone isn't diabetic, I think some sugar on the tongue might help to stop hiccups quickly.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-11-30 23:16:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#74. To: GreyLmist, Esso, 4 (#73)
Back when, a horse and I went down resulting in fractured ribs and a punctured lung which put me in the hospital, flat on my back for a week.
Things like this take serious bed-rest to heal.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2013-11-30 23:57:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#75. To: Lod (#74)
Rest is best, no doubt. Did you have to have surgery? Did they wrap your ribs back then or not?
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-12-01 0:42:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#76. To: Esso (#27)
Holy cow.
Not a helluvalot can be done for a sternum!
One idea: Apply dmso. Might speed healing.
"If an angry bigot assumes this bountiful cause of Abolition, and comes to me with his last news from Barbados, why should I not say to him, 'Go love thy infant; love thy wood-chopper: be good-natured and modest; have that grace; and never varnish your hard, uncharitable ambition with this incredible tenderness for black folk a thousand miles off. Thy love afar is spite at home.'"
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson, Self-Reliance
Prefrontal Vortex posted on 2013-12-02 16:00:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#77. To: 4um, all, LATEST UPDATE (#76) (Edited)
[ Body of post deleted and archived to PM, too personal]
Thanks everyone for your kindness & concern.
Jim, alias Esso
The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso posted on 2013-12-02 20:21:18 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#78. To: All, wreck pic (#77) (Edited)
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The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso posted on 2013-12-02 20:51:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#79. To: Esso (#77)
My career is most likely over. The limits of her liability insurance might cover a year and a half of my salary. Her auto medical insurance is probably already near the limits then my car insurance takes over and will probably will exhaust itself quickly at which time my health insurance takes over and will also probably hit the million dollar lifetime limit. Xxxxx is saying rehabilitation may take years. I hope to hell he's wrong.
People here are telling me how lucky I am to be alive and should be grateful for it. I'm not so sure about that.

Jim, I have been worried about you. You are going to have to take it very easy on yourself for a while.
Her liability insurance may not be all that she has. If she has any assets it is likely that she has an umbrella policy. Also, look into the uninsured/under insured policy on the vehicle you were driving. Were you in a company vehicle? There are generally umbrella and under insured coverage available for this sort of incident.
Give your self and your body much needed rest. Folks are right that it is a blessing that you are alive. You have more to do and you will get through this. Remember, what doesn't kill us makes us stronger and everything happens for a reason, even the crappy things. We are all sending you prayers and best wishes.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
abraxas posted on 2013-12-02 20:52:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#80. To: Esso (#77)
Take it one day at a time, Esso. Healing takes time. Especially what you've been through.

purplerose posted on 2013-12-02 21:06:18 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#81. To: Esso (#77)
Jim, believe me when I tell you, your recovery is largely in your hands. You are still young enough to bounce back from this set back. It won't be easy; I couldn't get out of bed unassisted for two weeks when I went down, but I soon decided to become the physical therapist's best patient. I realize this might seem a long way off for you now, but may I suggest you make it your goal too?
Beat whatever is in front of you, you survived for a reason.

Peace brother.

Jethro Tull posted on 2013-12-02 21:26:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#82. To: Esso (#77)
Damn Bro -
Best wishes for a great night's rest tonight.
Nothing can beat a solid rest for healing.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2013-12-02 21:30:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#83. To: Jethro Tull (#81) (Edited)
I'll do what I can, Tom, but this one's largely in the hands of the creator, not the hands of men.
The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso posted on 2013-12-02 21:35:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#84. To: Lod (#82) (Edited)
Best wishes for a great night's rest tonight.

Thanks, Loddy.
The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso posted on 2013-12-02 21:48:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#85. To: Esso (#83)
Don't give up the ship.
All joking aside, one of the reasons I am still here is that, among my many vices, I am stubborn as hell.
Don't let a little reversal get you down. Look for ways to keep busy and enjoy life. Life is good. I have my artwork and music, and I need to get back to writing.
However, the greatest jewel of all is having friends that care.
Be well, and get well.
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")
Original_Intent posted on 2013-12-02 22:28:18 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#86. To: GreyLmist (#73)
They also wrote that they still had chronic pain two years later.

oooh noooo.
To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.
christine posted on 2013-12-02 22:52:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#87. To: Original_Intent (#85)
love that sentiment, Warren.
To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.
christine posted on 2013-12-02 22:53:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#88. To: christine (#87)
Merci Madame Bon. :-)
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")
Original_Intent posted on 2013-12-02 22:56:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#89. To: Esso (#77)
Aye, you are in a bad way. I always want to help those in suffering. Alas... This is one of those things. If you have Keegan water or know someone with a Keegan machine... IF ANY OF YOU READING THIS HAS A KEEGAN WATER FILTER Maybe take to esso for three to eight weeks :). The Keegan thing makes cleaner better water that honestly can stimulate and accelerate healing. However the Keegan people are remarkably proud of their expensive device. ....

Otherwise only rest and light movement will make you right.... I wish I could offer more or do more. Your road maybe hard but you're alive , you get to keep all your limbs, no permeant brain damage requiring short busses and caretakers... I am very glad you felt strong enough to update us. Rest easy and know our prayers and love is with you. May Christ be with you.
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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.
titorite posted on 2013-12-03 0:57:37 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#90. To: christine, Esso (#0)
I've been absent so I was late getting the news but, thank you, chris for alerting us (and me) about the accident..
And, Jim, having re-broken the same poorly knitted rib three more times in twenty years and having it nick my lung and result in a nasty infection the last time, I can only sympathize with what must be considerably more discomfort than I endured. (It required surgery to clean out the messy 4-inch thick infection hanging on my lung and finally repair the rib)
The worst part was waking up and discovering that a balloon catheter was inserted after I went under. (There were only women in the super chilly OR!)
But, seriously Jim, I have two things to recommend; OXYCONTIN and COD LIVER OIL. The injury to your sternum will require heap big medicine so you can sleep, and the CLO will greatly minimize the constipation that narcotics often cause.
The new (brand med) OXYCONTIN contains something to minimize off label abuse, i.e., crushing and shooting and/or snorting and I've been told that some people have complained about the pills passing through without even dissolving. When I took the original compound they were the most effective oral med and you could have cut my head off with a chainsaw without me feeling much. And, they ain't cheap even with prescription coverage, but at least try them if you require serious amelioration of any pain.
Please don't be afraid to ask your doctor for what you want. All MDs are so gun shy these days (thanks to the FEDs who would rather shoot pain patients than permit the freedom to self medicate) that you'll end up seriously under-medicated (with 5 mg Percocet) if you don't assert your need for relief.
Managing our health in general and moderate to severe long term pain in particular is a partnership and there's no reason for anyone to suffer when relief is readily available. (We aren't sheep and we don't seek treatment from Vets)
If the med you have ain't makin' it then call the doctor immediately! Don't wait until it's time for a refill.
I am so sorry to learn of your accident and despite the fact that it could have been worse, it's not unusual for soft tissue injuries (i.e., neck and back muscles) to manifest days or even weeks after the initial trauma. And your sternum injury may granulate fairly slow and not without regular reminders not to roll over,, roll your shoulders forward, breathe, etc.,.
I'll feel better if I know that you or better yet an assertive advocate is seeing to your needs. And, you may want to use a driver and protect yourself with a large, firm pillow when riding shotgun in the unlikely event of another airbag deployment.
Please take care.
_JimDAWG
"Privileged information is the ambrosia of elitists. It gives them a sense of power, and the human ego loves to feed from the trough of power."
HOUNDDAWG posted on 2013-12-03 8:25:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#91. To: Update (#90)
Please think healing thoughts and pray for Jim. He wrote earlier to let me know that his condition seems to be worsening. He's scheduled an emergency appointment with his physician for morning.
To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.
christine posted on 2013-12-04 0:13:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#92. To: christine, Esso (#91)
Thanks for the update, Christine. Prayers up for Jim.
>“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2013-12-04 0:23:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#93. To: christine (#91)
Thanks for the update. Hope that things will start improving soon.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts
James Deffenbach posted on 2013-12-04 1:31:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#94. To: christine (#91)
Best wishes and prayers for Jim. Please let us know the results of his appointment this morning.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
abraxas posted on 2013-12-04 10:10:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#95. To: christine, Esso, HOUNDDAWG, Dakmar, Prefrontal Vortex, Horse, Jethro Tull (#91)
*!%$#@%@&. &*+=#.

Deasy posted on 2013-12-04 12:06:37 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#96. To: Deasy, Hmmmmm, All (#95)
I just spoke to Jim. The good news is that the internal bleeding seems to have ceased. His red blood cell count has stabilized. The not so good news is that he does have a concussion. His doctor is sending him for brain and spinal MRIs next week.
All in all, Jim sounded much better and more positive this morning.
To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.
christine posted on 2013-12-04 13:12:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#97. To: christine (#96)
All in all, good news, thanks.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2013-12-04 13:17:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#98. To: christine, Esso, Lod (#96)
Nausea and white flashes may have been indications of concussion. Given everything else that happened it's hard to nail those symptoms down to just that. Lod's advice to see a GP was spot on.

Deasy posted on 2013-12-04 23:41:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#99. To: Esso, christine (#96)
Jim, you hanging in there?? Give us an update!!!
>“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2013-12-07 19:40:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#100. To: X-15, Esso (#99)
Amen.
Ring in brother.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2013-12-07 21:11:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#101. To: christine (#96)
All in all, Jim sounded much better and more positive this morning.

Keeping him in my heart and prayers. Recover swiftly Esso. And remember, God loves you :)
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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.
titorite posted on 2013-12-07 21:56:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#102. To: titorite (#101)
God loves you

Maybe, but Odin sure seems to be pissed off at me.
The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso posted on 2013-12-07 22:21:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#103. To: Esso (#102)
Maybe, but Odin sure seems to be pissed off at me.

I swear this is true.
This last Halloween about 11:00 PM some young lady ran through my neighborhood screaming ODIN repeatedly at the top of her lungs. As near as I could tell, it went on for about 15 - 20 minutes.
It had not happened before or since.
Any thoughts?
It's the bankers fault !
Buzzard posted on 2013-12-08 10:37:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#104. To: Buzzard (#103)
Stuff happens, south of the river.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2013-12-08 10:42:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#105. To: Buzzard (#103)
This last Halloween about 11:00 PM some young lady ran through my neighborhood screaming ODIN repeatedly at the top of her lungs.
Any thoughts?

Too much Jägermeister.
The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso posted on 2013-12-08 11:26:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#106. To: christine, Esso (#96)
The road to recovery on something of this magnitude is never a smooth one. Hang in there.

Pinguinite posted on 2013-12-08 12:16:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#107. To: christine, Esso (#96)
All in all, Jim sounded much better and more positive this morning.

Good.
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")
Original_Intent posted on 2013-12-08 12:54:19 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#108. To: cynicom, christine, 4um, freinds, newbies, X-15, Lod, pinguinite, all (#0)
And sure, bring someone new in. Be happy to repopulate the place again.

Jim isn't going to recover, he just wants to say goodbye to all my erstwhile friends.
Jim's wife divorced him ASAP after the accident, because she didn't "want to be married to a cripple and a retard."
Well, I'm still here, barely, but hell pinguinite wants more folks here.
Do it up kiddos, me and Cynicom can't hold this joint up forever...
The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso posted on 2020-02-10 6:28:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#109. To: X-15, 4um (#108)
(Cute cat in a zen pose)
Positive energy is all around you...

Jim,
I know you've got a lot on you're plate right now, I hope you get on the mend real quick.
If you need a friendly voice to to don't hesitate to call me!!
cell xxx-xxx-xxx
xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.com

...feel that energyand know that I'm always sending you good vibrations.

Xxxx X.
"X-15"
(at the bottom)
freedom4um
The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso posted on 2020-02-10 6:50:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#110. To: 4um (#109) (Edited)
Hey, these are the folks that've been here since 2013!
Hey! look at the names, look at the dates!
Fvck, forget the politics, please! Just live. Go with God.
The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso posted on 2020-02-10 6:53:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
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