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Title: 3 dead after suburban Kansas City shooting
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Published: Apr 13, 2014
Author: MARIA SUDEKUM
Post Date: 2014-04-13 22:50:43 by Tatarewicz
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OVERLAND PARK, Kan. (AP) — A man in his 70s opened fire Sunday outside of a Jewish community center and nearby retirement community, killing three people, authorities said.

Overland Park Police Chief John Douglass said at a news conference Sunday evening that a person who had been reported to be in critical condition earlier was among three killed in the attacks, which apparently occurred minutes apart.

"Today is a sad and very tragic day," Douglass said. "As you might imagine we are only three hours into this investigation. There's a lot of innuendo and a lot of assertions going around. There is really very little hardcore information."

Shots were fired behind the Jewish Community Center of Greater Kansas City in a parking lot about 1 p.m., Douglass said. One male died at the scene, another male died at a hospital. The gunman then fled and opened fire at nearby Village Shalom, killing a female, before later being arrested near an elementary school. Two other people were shot at, but the gunfire missed them, Douglass said.

Douglass said it was too early in the investigation to determine if the shootings were hate crimes. The Jewish festival of Passover begins Monday.

"We know it was a vicious act of violence, and we know obviously it was at two Jewish facilities. One might make that assumption," Douglass said. View gallery Kansas State Troopers stand outside a police line near … Kansas State Troopers stand outside a police line near the location of a shooting at the Jewish Comm …

He described the suspect as a white man in his 70s who is not from Kansas. He said the suspect is being held at the Johnson County Detention Center, but did not provide further information.

"We have no indication he knew the victims," Douglass said, adding that the suspect was not known to Kansas City-area authorities before the shootings. Douglass said a shotgun was used, and investigators were trying to determine whether a handgun and assault-style rifle also were involved.

The Jewish Community Center of Greater Kansas City in Overland Park posted on its Facebook page Sunday afternoon that a "shooting incident" happened near its White Theater entrance.

"Everyone participating in JCC programming has been released to their homes," the center posted later Sunday.

There was a heavy police presence at the campus, which spans several acres in an affluent area of Johnson County, Kan. Police had also taped off the entrance to Village Shalom on Sunday afternoon, and several patrol cars and a crime scene unit van were parked in front.

St. Louis resident Kristy Straeb, 47, said her sister-in-law Stacie Ventimiglia was at the center's pool with a friend and four little girls under the age of 7 for a swimming lesson, which ended about 12:45 p.m. Straeb said they decided at the last minute to get the girls showered.

"They had just gotten the four babies naked, and somebody yelled into the family locker room, 'We have an active shooter situation. You need to get safe,'" Straeb said.

The women got into a cubby area and were "ready to push the little girls into 4 empty lockers," Straeb said. She noted that the women and their children were not harmed and left the center about 2:45 p.m. Sunday.

Auditions for the KC SuperStar competition were scheduled to be held Sunday at the Jewish Community Center. On Sunday afternoon, the website for KC SuperStar, which is a singing competition for high school students, said the auditions were cancelled.


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[Mary S] Oh, Jesus, I was shopping just a couple of blocks away from there last night (down that way all the time)!! This a week after the series about the heroin epidemic featured an interview w/ a doctor I used to work w/ at the hospital where I used to work in OH. Turns out that the man and his son who were killed in the parking lot at the community center were METHODISTS; members of my daughter's best friend's church. Why was there NOTHING on here about the nut who is shooting at cars on certain sections of the greater KC freeways?? My husband who still lives in OH was the first to tell me; my daughter assumed I already knew. +12-6

[Betty O'neal] The country's gone crazy. All the trashy behavior on TV that's considered cool, violent lyrics in every other song, graphic violence in movies and TV, the breakdown of the family with kids getting little parental guidance. Schools do their best, but many of them are in trouble too; teachers can't be expected to deal with neglected kids, disturbed kids, violent kids, and kids that don't speak English. But they get the brunt of it along with law enforcement who are accused of brutality by any and every criminal. Schools and cops and families are all endangered by people who are high on narcotics. People are without work or taxed to death or have mountains of medical bills, education bills, or taxes. We are told to be tolerant, but that's out of control too. Must we tolerate anything and everything? Then if someone wants tolerance for being Christian, or straight, or even wealthy then you become a target. So what's the answer? God only knows. Literally.+20-7

JoeFor being a small minority (less than 1% in the whole world), I notice Jews sure seem to have a lot of representation in these forums. +1-1

Gary Owen Just one more loser on the road of life who decided to Murder due to his ignorance. Some said he yelled Heil Hitler as he drove and shot making it possible he is another nazi loser. +6-1

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#1. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

My first impression,

The old white guy was on a cocktail of psychiatric drugs.

Those psychiatric drugs made an ordinary old peaceful old white guy an angry and violent person.

Escentially, some quack doctor created another mass murderer.

This one will be another great endorsement for more mental health care and of course more and more psychiatric drugs from Big Pharma. Exactly how they planned it.

sizzlerguy  posted on  2014-04-13   23:01:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: sizzlerguy (#1)

more mental health care

That's what most of the 4K comments following article said. Unfortunately no one seems to want to tackle the issue of what was it that made guy go crazy. Even those genetically predisposed to exhibit mental illness can hold it in check until someone, something triggers it.

The 4000+ comments is a bit phoney because Yahoo allows posters to repeat their comments to bring them up to the top of the list.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2014-04-13   23:37:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

Again. It goes back to the fact that this well timed event happened in order to distract everyone in the media away from Harry Reid and his Chinese land deal. Then there's the fact that this prick went from two Jewish centers to an elementary school.

The first two on the scene interviews were with some stupid chick in a minivan. The first thing out of her mouth was how it reminded her of Sandy Hook with all those children. The second guy was a guy named Metcalf who was there with his son at one of the centers who were there for some function.

This is the single most obvious staged event ever.

"Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2014-04-13   23:59:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

The guy who did, Fraiser Cross Jr., also known as Glenn Miller, lives in Aurora, MO and is pretty big in the local white supremest movement. Here is an interview he did in 2005 with local TV station KY3

Several years ago on this site there was a guy who posted for a short time who threatened to sick this Miller guy me. Miller is supposed to be some Army Ranger/Special Forces bad ass. The guy was supposed to tell me where to meet Miller but I never heard back from him.

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F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2014-04-14   10:48:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#4)

The shooter is mentally ill - at his age (73) I'm guessing arteriosclerosis (hardening of the arteries of the brain). It could have started years ago.

The last laugh is on this wack job:

"None of the victims of the shooting were identified as Jewish, authorities said. At least two of the victims are believed to be Christian, according to the Associated Press."

www.washingtonpost.com/ne...-face-hate-crime-charges/

scrapper2  posted on  2014-04-15   1:39:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: scrapper2 (#5)

The shooter is mentally ill - at his age (73) I'm guessing arteriosclerosis (hardening of the arteries of the brain). It could have started years ago.

Maybe. Then again, at 73 years old with one foot in the grave he may have thought he had nothing to lose and said WTF, I'll take a few with me. Or he may have health issues that he was unable to afford to treat and decided to let Uncle Sammy and the American taxpayer foot the bill.

I expect we'll hear the details soon enough. The media won't bury this like they do black on white crime. It will be front page news as the Jews use it as evidence they are being "persecuted" and warn of a new American holocaust in order to drum up support for Israel and liberals use it as evidence that non-liberal whites need to have their firearms taken from them.

Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown

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Any perceived compliance with unconstitutional “laws” or orders put forth by government employees is NOT recognition of their authority; it is simply the result of carefully calculated submission to an entity exhibiting superior firepower.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2014-04-15   11:58:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#6)

Accused Jewish Community Center shooter was government informer

Yer gonna see more of tuis kind of stuff. I see this morning that Obongo wants $1.1 billion for gun control. Don't have time to find the link, but you can google it.

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randge  posted on  2014-04-15   12:51:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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