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Title: Snowden's Censored Comments About 9-11
Source: Hang the Bankers
URL Source: http://www.hangthebankers.com/the-s ... s-about-911-that-nbc-censored/
Published: Jun 1, 2014
Author: Unknown
Post Date: 2014-06-01 10:08:19 by Turtle
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Views: 1210
Comments: 24

Only around a quarter of the recent NBC News interview with former intelligence contractor Edward Snowden made it to broadcast, but unaired excerpts now online show that the network neglected to air critical statements about the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

When the four-hour sit-down between journalist Brian Williams and Snowden made it to air on Wednesday night, NBC condensed roughly four hours of conversation into a 60-minute time slot.

During an analysis of the full interview afterwards, however, the network showed portions of the interview that didn’t make it into the primetime broadcast, including remarks from the former National Security Agency contractor in which he questioned the American intelligence community’s inability to stop the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

In response to a question from Williams concerning a “non-traditional enemy,” Al-Qaeda, and how to prevent further attacks from that organization and others, Snowden suggested that United States had the proper intelligence ahead of 9/11 but failed to act.

“You know, and this is a key question that the 9/11 Commission considered. And what they found, in the post-mortem, when they looked at all of the classified intelligence from all of the different intelligence agencies, they found that we had all of the information we needed as an intelligence community, as a classified sector, as the national defense of the United States to detect this plot,” Snowden said. “We actually had records of the phone calls from the United States and out. The CIA knew who these guys were. The problem was not that we weren’t collecting information, it wasn’t that we didn’t have enough dots, it wasn’t that we didn’t have a haystack, it was that we did not understand the haystack that we have.”

“The problem with mass surveillance is that we’re piling more hay on a haystack we already don’t understand, and this is the haystack of the human lives of every American citizen in our country,”Snowden continued. “If these programs aren’t keeping us safe, and they’re making us miss connections — vital connections — on information we already have, if we’re taking resources away from traditional methods of investigation, from law enforcement operations that we know work, if we’re missing things like the Boston Marathon bombings where all of these mass surveillance systems, every domestic dragnet in the world didn’t reveal guys that the Russian intelligence service told us about by name, is that really the best way to protect our country? Or are we — are we trying to throw money at a magic solution that’s actually not just costing us our safety, but our rights and our way of life?

Indeed, the director of the NSA during Snowden’s stint there, Gen. Keith Alexander, reportedly endorsed a method of intelligence gathering in which the agency would collect quite literally all the digital information it was capable of.

“Rather than look for a single needle in the haystack, his approach was, ‘Let’s collect the whole haystack,’” one former senior US intelligence official recently told the Washington Post. “Collect it all, tag it, store it. . . .And whatever it is you want, you go searching for it.”

In recent weeks, a leaked NSA document has affirmed that under the helm of Alexander, the agency was told it should do as much as possible with the information it gathers: “sniff it all, know it all, collect it all, process it all and exploit it all,” according to the slide.

“They’re making themselves dysfunctional by collecting all of this data,” Bill Binney, a former NSA employee-turned-whistleblower himself, told the Daily Caller last year. Like Snowden, Binney has also argued that the NSA’s “collect it all” condition with regards to intelligence gathering is deeply flawed.

“They’ve got so much collection capability but they can’t do everything. They’re probably getting something on the order of 80 percent of what goes up on the network. So they’re going into the telecoms who have recorded all of the material that has gone across the network. And the telecoms keep a record of it for I think about a year. They’re asking the telecoms for all the data so they can fill in the gaps. So between the two sources of what they’ve collected, they get the whole picture,” Binney said.

Although NBC neglected to play Mr. Snowden’s remarks to Williams in which he questioned the efficiency of modern intelligence gathering under the guise of being a counterterrorism tool, it did air on television other remarks from the former contractor concerning the terrorist attacks.

“It’s really disingenuous for the government to invoke and sort of scandalize our memories to sort of exploit the national trauma that we all suffered together and worked so hard to come through to justify programs that have never been shown to keep us safe, but cost us liberties and freedoms that we don’t need to give up and our Constitution says we don’t need to give up,” he said in an excerpt broadcast on air.


Poster Comment:

Golly gee, there was no conspiracy! The children, of course, will stick their fingers in their ears, squinch their eyes shut and yell, "Is too! Is too!"

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#1. To: Turtle (#0)

The reaction to the attacks is where all the trouble is. And the lies.

Deasy  posted on  2014-06-01   10:17:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Turtle (#0)

it wasn’t that we didn’t have a haystack, it was that we did not understand the haystack that we have.”

Computers are fine but it takes a human to sit down, analyze the haystack and come out with a result that 2 + 2 does in fact equal 5.

A computer cannot do that.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-06-01   10:57:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Cynicom (#2)

An ocean of hay and looking for a few needles.

"Have Brain, Will Travel

Turtle  posted on  2014-06-01   11:15:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Turtle (#3)

An ocean of hay and looking for a few needles.

Indeed...

Long ago, I entered a one story building, took the elevator down three floors, was under armed guard, was in heavy mesh wire enclosure at all times.

Came out adjacent to a huge room lined with back to back desks, endless rows, military person sitting at each desk, men sitting there studying papers in their hands.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-06-01   12:11:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Turtle (#0)

Two questions:

#1--Why was the info they had ignored?

#2--Why were those responsible for ignoring that info promoted instead of being fired?

Support bacteria.

(The world needs more culture)

Obnoxicated  posted on  2014-06-01   12:23:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Obnoxicated (#5)

Two questions:

#1--Why was the info they had ignored?

#2--Why were those responsible for ignoring that info promoted instead of being fired?

It's the ameriKan way.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-06-01   12:28:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Turtle (#0)

Golly gee, there was no conspiracy! The children, of course, will stick their fingers in their ears, squinch their eyes shut and yell, "Is too! Is too!"

Sooooooo.......now we have Crisis Posters along with Crisis Actors?!?!?!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-06-01   13:12:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Lod (#6)

You know what? I see box turtles crossing the small backroads down here all the time and I always go around them, unless my daughter is with me. She always has me stop so she can get out and remove them from the road. I think I might have to revise my "save the turtles" policy and start turning them into buzzard bait. If they don't care, why should I?

Support bacteria.

(The world needs more culture)

Obnoxicated  posted on  2014-06-01   13:15:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Deasy (#1)

A good example would be Cheney's reaction to the incoming missile at the pentagon.

Support bacteria.

(The world needs more culture)

Obnoxicated  posted on  2014-06-01   13:20:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Obnoxicated (#8)

save the turtles" policy and start turning them into buzzard bait. If they don't care, why should I?

You'll be facing my brain-eating pug.

"Have Brain, Will Travel

Turtle  posted on  2014-06-01   13:34:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Turtle (#0)

There isn't one thing that Snowden said there that precludes that 9/11 was an Inside Job.

To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.

christine  posted on  2014-06-01   17:26:22 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Obnoxicated (#9)

Nah...keep on sparing the terrapins, they need all the help that they can get.

Be glad that you live where you can see them; it's been decades now since I have...

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-06-01   17:29:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Obnoxicated, Turtle (#8)

"save the turtles" policy and start turning them into buzzard bait.

Everything our friend posts here is "buzzard bait".

Were it not for the fact that I promised Christine I wouldn't pick on him so much, I'd be taking him to the woodshed on a regular basis.

It's the bankers fault !

Buzzard  posted on  2014-06-01   18:04:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: christine (#11)

There isn't one thing that Snowden said there that precludes that 9/11 was an Inside Job.

I've not found anything from Snowden which confirms it either.

No evidence of who sold short the airline stocks. No evidence of contractors and thermite. No evidence of who wired Building 7. No evidence of who placed the phone calls warning certain people not to go into work that day.......

To me, this interview just arouses more suspicion of Snowden.

It's the bankers fault !

Buzzard  posted on  2014-06-01   18:14:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Buzzard (#13)

Were it not for the fact that I promised Christine I wouldn't pick on him so much, I'd be taking him to the woodshed on a regular basis.

My pug's coming and he likes raw brains. Think any zombie movie.

"Have Brain, Will Travel

Turtle  posted on  2014-06-01   19:16:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Obnoxicated, christine, James Deffenbach, Jethro Tull (#5) (Edited)

Two questions:

#1--Why was the info they had ignored?

#2--Why were those responsible for ignoring that info promoted instead of being fired?

9/11 was a most fortuitous stroke of luck. It was exactly what THE PROJECT for a NEW AMERICAN CENTURY (PNAC) called for to implement their renovation plans. It was the last hurdle to clear to install a Kosher govt, largely controlled by unelected (and unaccountable) policy makers.

The omniscient in power need not be accountable because their system does not make errors that will need reversal or warrant punishment. Whatever the end result it's better than before, and our reps are no longer expected to answer to lowly proles in their districts/home states. Their directives come from the invisible top and the elected are supposed to rubber stamp them with little or no debate and no amendments or modification.

Anything less than 100% cooperation and the dribbling Jewesses who so cheerfully with-no-strings-attached puffed on the bicameral valve stems may start phone chatting with those who just can't keep secrets.

In short, we are porked with a capital ORKED.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2014-06-01   19:16:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: HOUNDDAWG, Obnoxicated, christine, James Deffenbach, 4 (#16)

In short, we are porked with a capital ORKED.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2q2mD2HaKA

Regarding 9-11, when anyone can rationally explain the Larry Silverstein's comment regarding the pulling of Building 7, I'll sit patiently and listen to the rest of the government's story.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-06-01   20:46:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Buzzard (#14)

this interview just arouses more suspicion of Snowden.

i am on the fence with Snowden...

To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.

christine  posted on  2014-06-01   21:21:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Buzzard (#14)

To me, this interview just arouses more suspicion "of" Snowden.

i agree.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2014-06-01   22:03:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Buzzard, christine, Rotara, Obnoxicated, HOUNDDAWG, Cynicom, Jethro Tull, Turtle (#14)

To me, this interview just arouses more suspicion of Snowden.

Best not to attack the messenger before there is any available evidence he has personally tainted the message. Missing information isn't such evidence. If 9/11 were an inside job, would that fact be stored in an analysis memo sitting on the NSA's computers? Unlikely. NSA jobs are usually out of the question for people who think like that. It's a club for conformists.

Another way to look at this: Snowden's cache has the potential to shake up the status quo in ways the 9/11 Truth "movement" hasn't achieved yet. That Snowden's verifiable information hasn't caused more "change" yet demonstrates why other attempts to upset the populace with "truth" haven't worked. The average American citizen depends on the system as it is currently structured and fears what would happen if it began to crumble.

Instead of saying "here's a conjecture that will really shiver your timbers," Snowden has government documents. How to interpret them is up to us. After years of hearing that the Nazis were coming from the Truther Movement, when asking "Cui Bono? answers Israel and PNAC's global agenda, I'm more interested in what Snowden has to offer. I just don't expect much real change from the "Stamp Act" material Snowden has already released: Americans are a timid lot after a century of social engineering and have so little moral fiber left that it wouldn't matter what came on the news next week.

Deasy  posted on  2014-06-01   23:22:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Ed (#0)

The problem was not that we weren’t collecting information, it wasn’t that we didn’t have enough dots, it wasn’t that we didn’t have a haystack, it was that we did not understand the haystack that we have.”

yeah, that, and......?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2014-06-03   15:24:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: All (#21)

he is 'spinning'.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2014-06-03   15:25:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: christine (#11)

But, chris, he avoided 9/11 for the same reason Ron Paul did. Irrefutable logic is meaningless to the 90 percentile, those who assume that when the media and the govt both savage your character and patriotism then you ain't supposed to say it even if it's true.

Snowden stuck to facts that he has first hand knowledge and proof of. And that doesn't require American dummies to learn absolute laws of physics, and then be drilled until they understand that not even the govt can suspend those laws for the primary benefit of an unnamed "ally".

When the network was showing the ads for the upcoming interview after each question the camera simply showed the same shot of Snowden sitting mute, and they made him appear shady and stupid days before the big event.

Other interviews I've seen proved that he is an intelligent, articulate, principled patriot who never hesitated to give answers that made govt squirm, which is why it was time for a carefully edited Yehudiview.

You kept beating Ron Paul up for the same thing-failing to fall on his sword for 9/11. The American people are the only people who still don't see the truth and nothing Paul could say would change that. Not without lecturing them for years on the cost of courage in the face of a corrupt police state first. If they don't want to hear that then they damn sure don't deserve his personal sacrifice and career suicide. And earning your respect is a poor trade for all it would have cost him. Hell, all Paul Wellstone did was stand firm in principled opposition against invading the country of the guy who did it according to Bush, and then didn't do it according to Bush.

The more cred you have the higher the priority to kill you if you dare speak forbidden truth.

And when the heroes of our time are recorded in the book of eternal truths American Patriot Edward Snowden will have a star on the walk of honor, particularly because there aren't 100 govt employees in lucrative positions who would sacrifice for us the way he did. In fact, the majority would keep silent about planned mass genocide. They wouldn't forfeit a govt janitor's pension and certainly not their freedom or their lives.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2014-06-06   2:59:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: HOUNDDAWG (#23)

It's telling how quick truthers are to attack Snowden.

Deasy  posted on  2014-06-06   9:44:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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