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Title: Bill Clinton Advised McCain During Height Of 2008 Financial Crisis, New Book Says
Source: HuffPo
URL Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/ ... l3%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D505486
Published: Jul 22, 2014
Author: Sam Stein
Post Date: 2014-07-22 23:43:24 by X-15
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Views: 340
Comments: 46

WASHINGTON -- In retrospect, it is widely perceived to have been a mistake. As the financial crisis shook the country in the backstretch of the 2008 presidential election, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) chose abruptly to suspend his campaign and head back to Washington to forge a solution.

The idea was to look dignified and presidential. But it shocked Republicans, and Democrats largely pounced on the Arizona Republican for making a panicked, ceremonial and ultimately feckless move. What wasn’t widely known at the time was that one top Democrat was giving McCain political and economic advice, according to a newly released book.

That book, Clinton, Inc., says former President Bill Clinton was talking to the senator during the financial crisis even as McCain was running against then-Senator Barack Obama for president. The book gives the impression but does not say outright that Clinton persuaded McCain to suspend his campaign as the stock market tanked (a McCain aide said Clinton didn't make that case). Rather, according to the author, Daniel Halper of the Weekly Standard, Clinton offered advice on what to emphasize and say. The two, he writes, “flirted, quite obviously.”

"During the 2008 campaign I talked to President Clinton on several occasions," McCain tells me with a slight smile, as if realizing what he is about to let slip. "We talked about the campaign. We talked about various aspects of it."

McCain shied away from calling Clinton’s outreach "advice." "It wasn’t 'you should do this, you should do that,'" McCain says.

"It was sort of 'well, here’s where I think things are standing and here’s the issues I think you should emphasize.'" The conversations continued well into the fall, even after Clinton endorsed Obama at the conventions. McCain recalls that Clinton called him to share thoughts about the 2008 financial bailout, which had led McCain to "suspend" his campaign against Obama and urge a legislative solution.

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#1. To: scrapper2, X-15 (#0)

Reform this, scrap.

Deasy  posted on  2014-07-23   1:35:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Deasy (#1)

Reform this, scrap.

What's to reform?

Toss the RINO out on his fat as* - he's better suited to hanging with his pals in the DemRat Party.

RINO's are DemRats in disguise.

Don't you get the acronym?

The GOP is being reformed by the Tea Party who challenge, expose, and shame RINO's like McCain.

scrapper2  posted on  2014-07-23   1:59:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: scrapper2, Katniss, Jethro Tull, christine, Lorie Meacham, Lod (#2) (Edited)

The GOP is being reformed by the Tea Party who challenge, expose, and shame RINO's like McCain.

Your tea party and mine are different. Mine would be something more like the Boston Tea Party.

When you write "Tea Party," you mean the astroturfed "Koched" Tea Party. The ones who wanted what Ron Paul said except nothing specific. The ones who laughed at Ron Paul when he said we shouldn't have fought in WWI and WWII. You know, the ones who said they wanted to "get back" to simple fiscal conservatism while continuing to lobby for an attack on Iran. The ones who watch FOX News for their "liberty fix." The 4x4 patriots who avidly listen to Mark Levin and Mike Savage.

You're thinking of the Tea Party FOX insists is (with few objections) led by Zionist Sarah Palin. The Tea Party of Ted Cruz, who advised the Bush-Cheney campaign in 2000. The Ted Cruz who recruited John Roberts, the Supreme Court justice who upheld military tribunals and who deems the commerce clause a federal power. Roberts, the dissenter on a majority case ruling upholding strong fourth amendment restrictions on government searches. This is the Ted Cruz endorsed by FreedomWorks and Club For Growth, two "establishment" leaning "conservative" think tanks. FreeomWorks was founded by Dick Armey who in 2002 advocated throwing the Palestinians out of the territories. Club for Growth supported CAFTA. In 2004 Cruz attacked John Kerry for being against defending American values overseas. This is a man who was named "man of the year" by Zionist FrontPage magazine.

Also in the "Tea Party" is beanie wearer Rand Paul, who has called for "immigration reform." And as I write this I can't find anything about tea party identified members with media coverage calling for the shutdown of the federal reserve or cutting off aid to Israel.

You're wearing rose colored, idealogue glasses. Give up on American politics. It's done.

Deasy  posted on  2014-07-23   8:24:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Deasy, scrapper2, Katniss, christine, Lorie Meacham, Lod, X-15, 4 (#3)

Deasy my brother, you are way too politically sophisticated to not be able to differentiate between the Establishment wing of the National Party and those office seekers who ascribe to lower taxes, 2nd amendment rights and more individual freedom. I'll avoid calling them tea party-types since that movement was penetrated quickly by the Establishment. Nevertheless folks running on the three issues I mentioned above are the only viable option available to us at this point in history. I know the argument about not voting and I see the results daily when the whore media parades the arrogant Street Agitator in front of me flipping US the finger as He claims to be unaware of a collapsing border and a stalled economy. I'm glad I worked for and voted for Perot x 2. Altho he failed (thanks to the Establishment) we were close to a national political victory in '92 and '96.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-07-24   8:00:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Jethro Tull (#8)

differentiate between the Establishment wing of the National Party and those office seekers who ascribe to lower taxes, 2nd amendment rights and more individual freedom.

In my previous remarks I was discussing average citizens coming up to me and saying I should join the "Tea party" because it was going to "help" "restore" our "country."

Pressing them further, I got a face full of neoconservatism. This has continued, and worsened as more and more people joined in the Tea Party movement.

Deasy  posted on  2014-07-24   8:24:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Deasy, Jethro Tull, X-15 (#10)

saying I should join the "Tea party" because it was going to "help" "restore" our "country."

Pressing them further, I got a face full of neoconservatism.

The Tea Party was a good start for reform of the GOP. So was Ron Paul.

Yes, the Tea Party may have been corrupted at some levels but that happened because the RINO establishment saw the Tea Party as a threat to their hold on the GOP. It doesn't been the Tea Party is worthless because some elements have been compromised. I'm not a Tea Party dues paying member but I respect what the Tea Party has done - i.e, it challenged the RINO establishment and it reminded GOP voters of basic conservative, constitutional principles and encouraged them to agitate for more than what the RINO's were offering.

Yes, Ron Paul did not win the Prez elections, but he didn't fail to open the eyes of disenchanted GOP voters to the possibility of having a GOP Prez candidate with a firm grasp of the US Constitution.

The legacy of Ron Paul and the Tea Party movement lives on today.

Who would have thunk that an entrenched "Establishment" politician like Eric Cantor could be/would be tossed out of office? Cantor was Bonehead's anointed heir apparent.

Who would have thought that the 2 fraud party agreement on "immigration reform" would be stopped in its tracks? Obama and Bonehead thought it would be a slam dunk. But GOP politicians - not the Dems - got so much flack from their constituents, Bonehead and Rubio had to back off. That's the Tea Party's doing.

Who would have thunk that non-establishment, quality GOP potential Prez candidates like Rand Paul and Ted Cruz would emerge and have so much popularity with independents and GOP voters alike. Both men are imperfect. They have warts. But there's lots of good about them too. And were it not for Ron Paul running as a GOP candidate 2 Prez elections in a row and addressing political issues so capably in debates and interviews, Ted Cruz and Rand Paul would be dismissed as "fringe" candidates. Instead they are both front runners for the GOP Prez ticket according to polls.

Nothing even close to a Ron Paul or a Tea Party movement has happened or will happen to the Dem Party. As I said before - the Dem Party is one united monolithic party of anti-middle class Americans, anti-US Constitution, pro-redistribution of wealth mindset from top to bottom. Dem Party establishment, Dem Party politicians, Dem Party voters - they're all on the same page.

If you're waiting for Americans to stay home on voting day, that's not going to happen. GOP voters stayed home the last election and what did that get them - 4 more years of the CommunistInChief. Dem voters will never stay home - the Kenyan has spoiled them so much, they're not going to chance losing their perks and entitlements.

If you're waiting for marches and demonstrations to take place in DC, all you're going to get is La Raza marchers. The middle class have to be a work - those who have jobs, that is. The college students of the 60's 70's marched because they had hope for a future, for achieving the American Dream - they didn't want to die young in Vietnam. But college students, college graduates today are barely keeping their heads above water. They have little hope for getting a good paying job and buying a home with a white picket fence. They are over whelmed with debt, living with their parents, and working 2 or 3 menial part time jobs. They have no will to protest because for them there is no possibility of achieving the American Dream.

I think there's hope for a change in the GOP establishment. But sitting on your hands waiting for the perfect candidate to run for office will get you and me HildaBeast for 8 years. Maybe that's you want.

scrapper2  posted on  2014-07-24   12:01:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: scrapper2, Jethro Tull, X-15 (#15) (Edited)

Maybe that's you want.

No, but if I had to choose between a real Tea Party and the imperfect candidates, none of whom are going to address my main concerns in time, I'd choose the real Tea Party. By 2045, Spanish will be spoken by more Americans than any other language. That ball is rolling today. No matter what anyone does within our current political imagination, that fact cannot be avoided.

That's why I think we need a new kind of political imagination. Do I want the impossible? Maybe.

Where there's hope in the current political system, there is dalliance. Meanwhile, the Titanic is about two miles from the iceberg and pretty soon even a change in rudder won't be able to save it.

Deasy  posted on  2014-07-24   12:11:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Deasy (#16)

That's why I think we need a new kind of political imagination. Do I want the impossible? Maybe.

I think a "new kind of political imagination" is quite possible but the event that might bring it on (i.e. a financial melt down like the Great Depression) would bring a whole lot of hurt to Americans. Call me selfish but I'm not in favor of suffering personal financial ruin on the off chance that a "new kind of political imagination" might emerge from the ashes of America.

scrapper2  posted on  2014-07-24   12:34:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: scrapper2 (#19)

I think a "new kind of political imagination" is quite possible

Perhaps for the non-conformist or the anarchist...but not for the masses. 98% percent of Americans have no original thought, no imagination whatsoever. They tune into the TV to provide imagination and tell them what to think and what to buy and how to feel and what drug to take and who to hate and how to vote.

There is not an iota of evidence that the 98% have moved an inch on the couch, nor is there any reason to believe they plan to do so in the future. Sure, there could be an economic collapse, but this will not invite original thought or imagination, it will invite the masses to bend over and beg Uncle Sammy to take care of them!! It will be the grand finale in the masses kissing their rights and liberty good bye!!

There is not an iota of difference between Dems and Reps....the gig is up!! For years the masses have been told to vote for the Reps because they will save day...has anything been saved? No, nation is in the ditch and neither side of the coin can or will make it all better. Time to scrap whores on both sides of the isle.

abraxas  posted on  2014-07-24   13:11:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: abraxas (#25)

it will invite the masses to bend over and beg Uncle Sammy to take care of them!!

The kind of collapse I'm thinking of is not a financial hiccup like 2007.

I'm thinking of something closer to 1929. Fed gov't would have nothing in the coffers to give to the masses.

scrapper2  posted on  2014-07-24   13:41:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: scrapper2 (#31)

Think about it: that would have been the right time to abolish the Fed. Didn't happen. Crisis of opportunity? Brought us FDR and the fateful alliance with Stalin.

Deasy  posted on  2014-07-24   13:42:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Deasy (#32)

Think about it: that would have been the right time to abolish the Fed. Didn't happen. Crisis of opportunity? Brought us FDR and the fateful alliance with Stalin.

Abolish the Fed during the Depression? Get serious. People were worried about surviving literally. They had no internet, no computers, and definitely no political imagination because most of them didn't have much formal education beyond high school at best.

You can muse all you want about abolishing the Fed or forming a 3rd party or changing the US's form of gov't into a parliamentary system - whatever spins your wheels - but personally I think casting a vote at the ballot box is a more substantial effort to avert America becoming a 3rd world Babylon than you sitting at your keyboard criticizing everything around you but doing zero to make a difference.

scrapper2  posted on  2014-07-24   14:00:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: scrapper2 (#37)

If I haven't changed any minds, then I haven't made a difference.

Deasy  posted on  2014-07-24   14:08:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#41. To: Deasy (#39)

If I haven't changed any minds, then I haven't made a difference.

ROFL!

You think too highly of your intellect and persuasive powers.

scrapper2  posted on  2014-07-24 14:13:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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