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Title: War Is Coming
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URL Source: http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/201 ... war-coming-paul-craig-roberts/
Published: Jul 29, 2014
Author: Paul Craig Roberts
Post Date: 2014-07-29 06:49:20 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 853
Comments: 93

The extraordinary propaganda being conducted against Russia by the US and UK governments and Ministries of Propaganda, a.k.a., the “Western media,” have the purpose of driving the world to war that no one can win. European governments need to rouse themselves from insouciance, because Europe will be the first to be vaporized due to the US missile bases that Europe hosts to guarantee its “security.”

As reported by Tyler Durden of Zero Hedge, the Russian response to the extra- legal ruling of a corrupt court in the Netherlands, which had no jurisdiction over the case on which it ruled, awarding $50 billion dollars from the Russian government to shareholders of Yukos, a corrupt entity that was looting Russia and evading taxes, is telling. Asked what Russia would do about the ruling, an advisor to President Putin replied, “There is a war coming in Europe.” Do you really think this ruling matters?”

The West has ganged up on Russia, because the West is totally corrupt. The wealth of the elites is based not only on looting weaker countries whose leaders can be purchased (read John Perkins’ Confessions of an Economic Hit Man for instruction on how the looting works), but also on looting their own citizens. The American elites excel at looting their fellow citizens and have wiped out most of the US middle class in the new 21st century.

In contrast, Russia has emerged from tyranny and from a government based on lies, while the US and UK submerge into tyranny shielded by lies. Western elites desire to loot Russia, a juicy prize, and there stands Putin in the way. The solution is to get rid of him like they got rid of President Yanukovich in Ukraine.

The looting elites and the neoconservative hegemonists have the same goal: make Russia a vassal state. This goal unites the Western financial imperialists with the political imperialists.

I have recorded for readers the propaganda that is used in order to demonize Putin and Russia. But even I was stunned by the astounding and vicious lies in the UK publication The Economist on July 26. The cover is Putin’s face in a spider web, and, you guessed it, the cover story is “A Web of Lies.” http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21608645-vladimir-putins-epic-deceits- have-grave-consequences-his-people-and-outside-world-web? spc=scode&spv=xm&ah=9d7f7ab945510a56fa6d37c30b6f1709

You need to read this propaganda both in order to see the gutter level of propaganda in the West and the obvious drive to war with Russia. There is no evidence whatsoever in the story to support The Economist’s wild accusations and demand for the end of Western “appeasement” of Russia and the harshest possible action against Putin.

The kind of reckless lies and transparent propaganda that comprises The Economist’s story has no other purpose than to drive the world to war.

The Western elites and governments are not merely totally corrupt, they are insane. As I have previously written, don’t expect to live much longer. In this video one of Putin’s advisors and Russian journalists speak openly of US plans for a first strike on Russia: http://financearmageddon.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/official-warning-u-s-to-hit- russia-with.html

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

How can we trust this man ? He was assistant secretary of the treasury and never uttered a single word regarding the illegitimate FEDERAL RESERVE.

Even if this asshat is telling the truth today he lied for as long as he benefited.

noone222  posted on  2014-07-29   6:58:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: noone222 (#1)

Never trust this man and never trust the Russians.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-07-29   7:11:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Cynicom (#2)

Never trust this man and never trust the Russians

You don't have to trust either but they make sense.

Ada  posted on  2014-07-29   11:46:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ada (#6)

You don't have to trust either but they make sense.

Yes, therein lies the problem.

Hitler and Stalin both made sense but both had ulterior motives.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-07-29   12:19:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Cynicom (#7)

Hitler and Stalin both made sense but both had ulterior motives.

And what are YOUR motives? Every factual and intelligent article concerning Russia you gloss over with your BS pen. Obama is acting more like Hitler and Stalin than anyone on the planet right now.

So why aren't you complaining about HIM, eh?

FormerLurker  posted on  2014-07-29   13:00:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: FormerLurker (#8)

So why aren't you complaining about HIM, eh?

Fair question...

Answer...If I printed here my feelings about Obama, I would be arrested, without bail. At my age that would be short term fatal.

This, one may accept as the Gospel...If I printed here my feelings about Obama and this government...WITHIN MINUTES PHONE CALLS WOULD BE MADE.

Am I a moral coward? Yes indeed.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-07-29   13:57:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom, FormerLurker, Fred Mertz (#11)

.If I printed here my feelings about Obama, I would be arrested

Except you agree with him (except — you say — the particulars) on America's obligation to intervene in geopolitics.

Deasy  posted on  2014-07-29   14:34:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Deasy (#13)

One has to realize and accept Obama is but a figure head.

Obama could abdicate tomorrow, the government would not change one whit in world power dynamics.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-07-29   14:42:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Cynicom (#14)

Yet you still insist that intervention is necessary. If Russia and China overtake us it will be due to us having supported them in the past while weakening ourselves at home. We are weak, and it happened because we couldn't maintain separation between ourselves and the rest of the world.

Deasy  posted on  2014-07-29   14:52:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Deasy, Russophiles (#16)

Perhaps it is easier to see our power dynamics.

On a wall map, draw a line from northern Norway, South thru, Finland, Estonia,Latvia,Lithuania,Belarus,Ukraine thru Turkey to the Mediterranean.

In the Pacific draw a line from Bering Straits of Alaska, South through Attu, Japan, Taiwan, Philippines and Australia.

To the East of that line, draw another line, from Tinian, to Saipan, to Guam, to Palua to Singapore.

Russia and China lie within.

It is the intention of this country to keep the two of them within those lines.

Like it or not, regardless of whom is President, what party is in power, NONE OF THIS WILL CHANGE.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-07-29   15:26:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Cynicom (#19)

But it did change because of our past interventions. And our current and future interventions will continue to make it worse. You were a major part of those interventions and so you believe they were necessary.

Deasy  posted on  2014-07-29   15:35:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Deasy, Russophiles (#20)

Deasy...

Resist using the word...YOU...this is a discussion forum, not a personal attack vehicle.

Visit a map, draw the lines, SEE WHAT THIS GOVERNMENT HAS DONE, IS DOING, WILL CONTINUE TO DO.

There is no alternative.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-07-29   15:50:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Cynicom (#21) (Edited)

I'm attacking your ideas. You're insisting that we had to intervene, because of a map in your head. If we hadn't entered either of the world wars, China and Russia wouldn't exist in their current forms. WE made that happen. WE were wrong. YOU were involved. YOU were wrong. I don't really care if you won't admit it, but I'm calling you out on this.

Why would we take seriously a former NSA desk jockey's apologies for America's self-destructive idiocy in the first place?

Deasy  posted on  2014-07-29   15:57:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Deasy (#22)

Last word...I have no ideas.

Maps do not lie.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-07-29   16:02:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Cynicom (#23)

I have no ideas.

Your idea in a nutshell: America is the best thing to ever happen to the world, and we had an obligation to do what we've done in all preceding wars, and all future wars. They're all connected by your map.

This is one hell of an apology for America's utter failure to protect itself domestically, and to avoid incinerating hundreds of thousands of people unnecessarily.

If we don't leave YOUR IDEA of an America the empire behind, we'll deserve what's coming to us.

Deasy  posted on  2014-07-29   16:09:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Deasy, 4 (#24)

This is one hell of an apology for America's utter failure to protect itself domestically, and to avoid incinerating hundreds of thousands of people unnecessarily.

I'm assuming this comment is in reference to the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. If so those two events were hardly unnecessary. In fact they likely saved many millions of lives when one considers the alternative which was a land invasion of Japan. It's a mistake to look back today, given all we now know, and apply that to 1945. Had those bombs not been dropped a lot of us baby boomers would never have been born.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-07-30   9:42:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#32. To: Jethro Tull (#31)

Had those bombs not been dropped a lot of us baby boomers would never have been born.

The Japanese were suing for peace well before then. The difference was over the terms of the surrender. Remember, this was a war to which we invited ourselves. The justifications for demanding total surrender were then, and still are, worthless for every member of the Axis.

An optional war does not justify the kind of butchery incendiary and nuclear weapons delivered over Europe and Japan. Of course this is one of several major reasons why we're told America's entry into the war wasn't optional.

Remember, this is the war that brought us racially to our knees.

Deasy  posted on  2014-07-30 09:52:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Jethro Tull (#31)

In fact they likely saved many millions of lives when one considers the alternative which was a land invasion of Japan. It's a mistake to look back today, given all we now know, and apply that to 1945. Had those bombs not been dropped a lot of us baby boomers would never have been born.

If it had been possible to launch a land invasion of both Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and somehow were able to avoid Japanese shooting back at American troops as they went house-to-house to exterminate the same number of Japanese civilians as would have been killed by the atomic bombings, would that have been an acceptable solution to end the war?

PnbC  posted on  2014-07-30 11:54:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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