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Title: Last surviving Hiroshima bomb crew member dies
Source: BBC
URL Source: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28548475
Published: Jul 29, 2014
Author: BBC
Post Date: 2014-07-30 01:54:29 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 269
Comments: 20

The last surviving member of the US air crew that dropped an atomic bomb on Hiroshima has died in Georgia aged 93.

Theodore Van Kirk, also known as "Dutch", was 24 when he became the navigator of the Enola Gay, the aircraft which dropped the bomb.

The attack on Japan on 6 August 1945 killed an estimated 140,000 people.

Van Kirk said he had "no regrets" about the mission and defended its morality, saying it helped to end the Second World War.

His son, Tom Van Kirk, paid tribute to his father, who he said remained active until the end of his life.

"I know he was recognized as a war hero, but we just knew him as a great father", he told AP.

Mr Van Kirk died of natural causes at the retirement home where he lived, his son said.

He had been the last surviving member of the Enola Gay crew since 2010 when Morris Jeppson, the assistant weaponeer, died.

His funeral is expected to take place next week in Pennsylvania.

The bomb, nicknamed "Little Boy", was the first nuclear weapon used in warfare.

The only other instance came three days later when the crew of the Bockscar dropped the "Fat Man" bomb on another Japanese city, Nagasaki, killing an estimated 80,000. (1 image)

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#1. To: All (#0)

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“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2014-07-30   2:03:16 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: X-15, Russophiles (#1)

Wars are to be won, not lost.

Of all the countries of the world, involved in WWII, the people of Japan came out of it as winners.

Thanks to the US and MacArthur in particular, Japan was remoulded into a better people. It took the A-bombs and MacArthur in particular to do it.

In Korea, MacArthur wanted to use A-bombs to stop the Korean war. American hand wringers said no. The result, 35,000 young Americans died in a war we LOST. Many of them were my friends.

Who instigated the Korean war...THE DAMNED RUSSIANS DID... When it looked as if the UN was winning, Russia threw in the hapless Chinese, a million of them died. Twenty five thousand of them froze to death.

When it was over, who stood aside with no losses?

Mother Russia. The Russian jews won again.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-07-30   4:01:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: X-15, *antifa* (#1) (Edited)

Dresden: Apocalypse 1945 (Hamburg Raids Detailed) (Article) [Full Thread]
Post Date:  2014-07-30  08:18:28   From: Deasy   To: *antifa*

How the rain of fire began, for "victory" in a war that America and Britain never should have entered, against people who were fighting for their survival against communism, who had already sued for peace. Perhaps it's acceptable to some on this forum to exterminate Asians by the hundreds of thousands. But the incendiary bombings were more effective than our small nuclear weapons at killing massive numbers of people. These techniques were perfected, using napalm-fitted bombs, over Germany's European cities.

David Irving describes how, in a European Civil war, the Allies butchered hundreds of thousands of German civilians who had done nothing more immoral than to be born in Germany.

By the way, Germany was asking for peace terms with the western Allies around the period documented by Irving's book, which focuses on the horrific Dresden raid.

Deasy  posted on  2014-07-30   8:31:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#2) (Edited)

Use of the atomic bomb in the Korean war would've been pointless in the long run Cyni.

Eisenhower integrated Central High.

A rainbow coalition against Jews doesn't require Whites or Pro-Whites. It can be just as brown or anti-white as you like.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2014-07-30   17:30:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#4)

Use of the atomic bomb in the Korean war would've been pointless in the long run Cyni.

A-bombs brought WWII to an abrupt and unexpected halt.

MacArthur wanted to do the same in Korea.

Our dead numbered 36,000, several were my friends.

Did they deserve to die? Judging is above me.

I can tell you this, from 1950 til 1953, we had numerous A-bombs at the ready and we would have dropped them on Russia without hesitation. Not China, not North Korea, but Russia.

The truce settled nothing, the seeds of WWIII are still there. We have 25,000 grunts in South Korea. With land war, what do we do?

Write them off?

One day that decision will have to be made.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-07-30   18:00:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Cynicom (#2)

Who instigated the Korean war...THE DAMNED RUSSIANS DID...

No, the SOVIETS did. It's like blaming the United States for the French and Indian war where it was Britain who controlled the 13 colonies at the time.

You need to let go of your Cold War era mentality Cyni, it's clouding your vision of the present and future.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2014-07-30   18:10:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: FormerLurker (#6)

You need to let go of your Cold War era mentality Cyni, it's clouding your vision of the present and future.

Cold war mentality?

Uhhh, Korea was a hot war. Good men died.

Clouding my vision? Surely you cannot be serious?

The cold war never ended.

The cold war started the day WWII ended. It will only end with the beginning of WWIII.

I highly recommend a book called, "The Valleys of Death".

Cynicom  posted on  2014-07-30   18:28:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: FormerLurker, Cynicom, 4 (#6)

Since the 1800's, zio-bankers (and their witting or un-witting tools) have started all wars.

End of story.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-07-30   18:42:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Lod, FormerLurker (#8)

Since the 1800's, zio-bankers (and their witting or un-witting tools) have started all wars.

The armistice of WWI was signed in Nov. 1918.

The Treaty of Versailles was signed in June 1919, the war to end wars.

Between the two signings, ending a war, the following took place.

The German general staff drew up plans for the next invasion of France and the Low Countries. The Japanese started fortifying their new islands in the Pacific for a move South for oil.

The US activated Plan Orange by fortifying the Philippines in anticipation of a Japanese invasion.

France laid plans for building the Maginot line, in anticipating the next German invasion.

Stalin did not come in until later, however he had plans for vacationing on the English Channel.

War never stops. Just a lull in fighting.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-07-30   19:05:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom (#9)

War never stops. Just a lull in fighting.

Yep.

Countries need a bit o'time to rearm, resupply, rebreed to start it all over again.

When will we ever learn? when will we ever learn?

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-07-30   19:39:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Lod (#10)

When will we ever learn? when will we ever learn?

Never.

I have been trying to get across to some people that in world dynamics, geo/politics, two plus two is NOT always four. Sometimes it equals five. There is sometimes an unseen number that makes it add up.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-07-30   19:56:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Cynicom (#7)

Clouding my vision? Surely you cannot be serious?

The cold war never ended.

What I'm saying Cyni is that you are living in the past. This is not the 1950's anymore, nor is it the 1980's, back when the USSR first collapsed.

The modern Russian people of the 21st Century are more aware of the world, and most likely MUCH better informed and educated than the vast majority of Americans.

The entire nation of Russia has taken huge steps away from tyranny and instead, made huge strides towards human rights and individual freedoms.

Conversely, the US has been steadily marching towards tyranny since the fall of the USSR, eliminating basic rights such as those enumerated in the Bill of Rights.

If there IS a "Cold War" going on at the moment, it is due to war mongering old bastards such as the Rothchild Dynasty and their minions doing their bidding.

It is not because of aggression on the part of Russia, but by aggression committed by the US and others considered "western nations", who are being played like puppets by the Rothchilds.

Apparently they are upset that Putin threw a bunch of their cronies into prison or exiled them permanently.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2014-07-30   19:59:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Lod (#8)

Since the 1800's, zio-bankers (and their witting or un-witting tools) have started all wars.

Yep, the international bankers and the multi-national corporations certainly have had their hands in the pie, but they are financed and/or controlled by the royalty of all bankers, the Rothchild family.

Via the British Empire, it has controlled trade, finance, and governments across the world for quite some time.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2014-07-30   20:04:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: FormerLurker (#12)

What I'm saying Cyni is that you are living in the past.

Fair enough...

I have given my assessment of the past and the future.

I am open to anyones assessment of the future, say for the next 50 years, what will be the events and the leading characters at play?

Cynicom  posted on  2014-07-30   20:21:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Cynicom (#14)

Turtle for Benign Dictator. All I require is gurls, cigars and a tuxedo.

"Have Brain, Will Travel

Turtle  posted on  2014-07-30   20:45:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Cynicom, Lod, FormerLurker, Jethro Tull, Deasy (#14)

If Obummer doesn't stop with his self-absorbed "I'm a general, too!! Respect me!!" routine this is a very possible future:

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“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2014-07-30   20:53:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: X-15, 4 (#16)

That or John Wilkes...

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-07-30   22:04:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Lod (#17)

There are more than enough replacements, starting with Biden. We have replace this wicked system from the ground up.

Deasy  posted on  2014-07-31   6:09:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: X-15, Cynicom, Lod, Jethro Tull, Deasy (#16)

If Obummer doesn't stop with his self-absorbed "I'm a general, too!! Respect me!!" routine this is a very possible future:

Strange how the "Supreme Allied Commander" in charge of NATO is named Breedlove

And then this...

Nato's action plan in Ukraine is right out of Dr Strangelove


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2014-08-03   15:07:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: FormerLurker, Cynicom (#19)

Cynicom reminds me of Major Kong going through the survival kits. "Feller could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff!"

Deasy  posted on  2014-08-03   15:22:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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