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Title: C-SPAN Gives Richard Gage the Stage to Share 9/11 False Flag EVIDENCE With Millions
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URL Source: http://sgtreport.com/2014/08/c-span ... e-flag-evidence-with-millions/
Published: Aug 2, 2014
Author: C-Span
Post Date: 2014-08-02 21:43:24 by christine
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Views: 1032
Comments: 23

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#1. To: All (#0)

Best thing about this are the callers.

To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.

christine  posted on  2014-08-02   21:45:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine (#1)

I don't agree with everything gage says, but I agree with the truth movement.

TRUTH!

Good that this happened.

For the greater good.

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titorite  posted on  2014-08-02   22:36:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#1)

Thank you for sharing this.

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titorite  posted on  2014-08-03   7:54:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: titorite (#2)

I don't agree with everything Gage says

titorite, please lay out the points that you don't agree with. We understand that many of the concepts are difficult to grasp. Most can be explained in layman's terms.

kawika  posted on  2014-08-03   10:39:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: kawika (#4)

I think the planes were CGI mixed with real explosions. No planes.

Aluminum can not cut steel under any circumstance not ever. The effect can not be reproduced because it is not physically possible.

ALSO commercial planes can't fly at 500 MPH in low altitudes for very long due to the denser atmosphere. Too much friction, too much wind drag. Also the cell phone calls from the planes back then would of been impossible.

Fake holes were blown out to look like the shapes but it is an imprecise art and the perpatrators tried to hard to get it perfect. Collision physics is never perfect. The wings would of sheared off to the columns and not gone through them ... The massive steel columns would of withstood that...

Thats my point of contention...

Nano thermite might of been used to cut out the fake holes. I am not in much contention about that.

And thank you for asking me. This thread deserves more attention for the mainstream of it. C-span.... Do so few of us really care that it is OK for Gage to be on C-span? Has this event become so irrelevant to too many?.... IDK.... But I am glad you acknowledged it too.

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titorite  posted on  2014-08-03   18:49:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: christine (#0)

Thanks for sharing - I watched 20 minutes.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2014-08-04   9:27:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: christine, kawika, titorite, Fred Mertz (#1) (Edited)

This mainly focused on the WTC7 collapse which I thought was well-understood as having been "pulled," as per its owner. Evidently that's still not widely nor officially recognized. Big, big insurance crime looks like to me. And to set that up in advance would have been quite a feat, not something to do on the day of the main towers' incident.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zY9HfwzGPg#t=6m55s

Here he gets to some interesting criticism of the official (NIST?) analysis of the north WTC tower's collapse: they say the pancaking of an upper block of the building brought it down, but video evidence shows that it basically flaked apart and went into free fall.

He moves on to talk about explosions that were heard at the ground level.

I think the planes were CGI mixed with real explosions. No planes. Aluminum can not cut steel under any circumstance not ever.
T: The sides of the building were lightly reinforced aluminum and would have been easy for a plane to enter. Your CGI theory is pretty complicated. A lot of people saw the planes, which didn't have to be flying at 500mph to reach their destinations. Also, we do not know who was piloting the aircraft or their talents. There's been a lot of conjecture that is impossible to prove or disprove. We should all be wary about those things and stick to the known facts, which at this point are many but still murky in important places.

Another interesting item (I'm sure the rest of you know) is that the engineers determined that particles of nanothermite were found at the site (along with?) other substances that they believe were manufactured by advanced defense contractors and only available to the military.

What I liked best about this clip was the analytical nature of the dialog, and the fact that it was on C-SPAN live without apparent censorship.

Deasy  posted on  2014-08-04   11:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: titorite (#5) (Edited)

I think the planes were CGI mixed with real explosions. No planes.

CGI makes little sense to me because 1) how do you make it look real when it is being viewed from many different angles, elevations (Ie helicopters)? 2) how do you get different sounds to match? 3) how do you get a CGI to make the tower (WTC2) sway, noticeable to cameras? 4) how do you get explosions to blow steel exterior columns INWARD? and set them accurately to match the way the CGI arrived at the actual building. Please think about these issues carefully.

Aluminum can not cut steel under any circumstance not ever. The effect can not be reproduced because it is not physically possible.

Hold on. The majority of the facade was glass. 14" of steel w/aluminum covering, 18" glass, 14" of steel, etc, etc. The plane was shredded and entered through the glass openings. If you study the damage maps you'll see that few columns were sliced, but bent in where the butt connections were located. or the entire panel was broken free by the engines. Just because the facade was discolored doesn't mean the steel columns were severed by aluminum wings.

ALSO commercial planes can't fly at 500 MPH in low altitudes for very long due to the denser atmosphere. Too much friction, too much wind drag.

The radar proved that the "UA175" vehicle was doing over the max operating speed. Pilots for 911 Truth are the experts on this. High speed suggests a modified airframe that could sustain the speeds at sea level. It doesn't mean CGI was the mechanism.

Also the cell phone calls from the planes back then would of been impossible.

Agreed

Fake holes were blown out to look like the shapes but it is an imprecise art and the perpatrators tried to hard to get it perfect. Collision physics is never perfect. The wings would of sheared off to the columns and not gone through them ... The massive steel columns would of withstood that...

see above

Thats my point of contention...

Nano thermite might of been used to cut out the fake holes. I am not in much contention about that.

Too difficult to get charges to match where the plane went in. A slight error 1/2 mile out would throw everything off, if the plane could even hit the building. Check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEQtxTnDusk

It was a real plane and the placed charges, whatever they were, did the controlled demolition. This had to be high tech because of the nature of the found nanothermite. Only a few military labs can produce it.

Consider this. If you were running this op, would you risk human error using a real hijacker? How could you be sure he didn't chicken out at the last moment or screw the trajectory up? For me the op screams remote control. Probably pre-programmed computer control to remove any possibility of not delivering the jet to the intended target.

kawika  posted on  2014-08-04   16:14:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: kawika (#8)

In this day and age people tend to think everything they see on TV is real.

Thats why our propaganda beats china and north korea.

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titorite  posted on  2014-08-06   22:09:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Deasy (#7)

The sides of the building were lightly reinforced aluminum

And the columns that the aluminum were faceted to were vacuumed compressed Steel.

So what are you trying to push? No offense but the outter parimter was not "lightly reenforced"

It was reenforced with vacuum compressed steel. The archetech of the building designed them to withstand 747 hits because of the empire state building hit.

Say whatever you like but provide some proof if IF you can prove even one instance of alumininum cutting steel in any other instance.... becausde I bet you can't. Because it aint possible. Never happened before or since... NO comparisons. THis is physics. Ya dig?

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titorite  posted on  2014-08-06   22:18:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: All (#10)

Nobody else? Did we all forget?

You live in the age of mega propaganda, Things are getting worst. 911 was the first salvo. Since then , since it proved the point False flags have increased exponentially. Berisconni, sandy hoax, Stay, rigby, auroa, Things are happening on a regular basis now.... and it only leads one way... a bad way.

God help us.

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titorite  posted on  2014-08-06   22:53:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: titorite (#11)

i feel it Amigo.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2014-08-07   18:16:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: titorite (#2)

I don't give a damn about 911 and the "Truthers." It happened in 2001 and the nuts are going to obsess all their lives, just like the loons who can't give up the Kennedy murder or think the moon landings were shot on a stage.

We have serious problems in this country with sub-human trash pouring over the borders, a half-breed POS commie as President, and here is here 2014 and the whackjobs are stuck in 2001.

"Have Brain, Will Travel

Turtle  posted on  2014-08-07   18:27:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Deasy (#7)

WTC7 is the whole story.

nothing more to add.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2014-08-07   18:38:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Turtle (#13)

YOU are ! the trash to monitor, Wallace.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2014-08-07   18:40:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Rotara (#14)

WTC7 is the whole story

Definitely a huge inconsistency. Did you hear that the owner's case against the airlines for "letting on terrorists" has been thrown out of court because he's already gotten $5 billion from insurance? In other words, he's trying to shake down multiple sources of money on this thing.

Deasy  posted on  2014-08-07   22:22:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: titorite (#10)

THis is physics. Ya dig?

I'm not saying that the building was knocked down by the aircraft itself. The 747 did not exist at the time of the building's design or even by the beginning of construction. The design goal was to minimize damage and avoid toppling of the building due to airliner strikes. One wouldn't imagine that the "design specifications" against aircraft strikes included a requirement that no entry into the building by the plane in question be permitted. The architect wouldn't have dared to be on any of the surrounding floors during a live test, for example.

There's a fallacy in the argument that aluminum never cuts steel. Imagine a thin sheet of steel like tinfoil. Now take an aluminum ball and hurl it at the steel sheet with a rubber-band slingshot or even an air gun. The thicker you make the steel sheet, the harder you'll have to fire the aluminum ball at the sheet for it to penetrate. Eventually, it will fail to break and "bounce" off. But until the sheet is much thicker, a dent will still be visible. No matter how thick you make the sheet, the aluminum ball will leave a mark if fired hard enough. Compared to the relative strength of the building's external shell, the force of a plane at a few hundred MPH could readily damage and even penetrate steel with the correct conditions.

Although the reinforcement steel may have seemed thick at first glance, it was probably well under the thickness needed to withstand aircraft penetration into the building. If you have any engineering studies to present that contradict this conclusion, I'd take a look of course.

Deasy  posted on  2014-08-12   8:59:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Deasy, 4 (#17)

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-08-12   9:08:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Lod (#18)

Uploaded on Sep 10, 2011

In the following interview clip, which took place inside of the Twin Towers on January 25, 2001, and aired on the 7th Season of the History Channel's Series "Modern Marvels" on June 25, 2001, Frank A. DeMartini, Manager, WTC Construction and Project Management, explains how the Twin Towers were "designed" to withstand the impact of a "fully-loaded Boeing 707." He also goes on to say that each of the Twin Towers would "probably sustain multiple impacts of jetliners because this structure is like the mosquito netting on your screen door: this intense grid; and, the jet plane is just a pencil puncturing this screen netting; it really does nothing to the screen netting."

It is interesting to note that the planes that slammed into the Twin Towers were Boeing 767s, which have a maximum take-off weight of 300,000 pounds, slightly less than the 330,000-pound maximum of the Boeing 707, making them slightly smaller than the planes the architects designed the Twin Towers to withstand the impacts of.

Sadly, Frank DeMartini is not available for comment because he perished in the Twin Towers on September 11, 2001.

Thanks Lod: I thought it was designed to withstand a 707. He even says the plane would act like a pencil puncturing a screen door net; it would leave the overall screen intact. It would, he thought, tolerate multiple plane hits.

Deasy  posted on  2014-08-12   9:16:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Deasy (#19)

Yep, those towers were so over-engineered it's not even funny...if only they hadn't called for asbestos in the specs.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-08-12   9:28:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Lod (#20) (Edited)

I can see multiple scenarios including that one, or that one in part. I always say that it was our massively inappropriate response to 9/11 that was the real conspiracy. This is why I don't get too wrapped up in one theory or another. We know the NeoCons wanted a new Pearl Harbor and somehow, somehow, they got it.

Deasy  posted on  2014-08-12   9:33:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Deasy (#19)

Thanks Lod: I thought it was designed to withstand a 707. He even says the plane would act like a pencil puncturing a screen door net; it would leave the overall screen intact. It would, he thought, tolerate multiple plane hits.

Their weren't multiple hits. Each tower was only hit once. Save the 3rd tower which was never hit at all.

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titorite  posted on  2014-08-13   18:20:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: titorite (#22)

The WTC maintenance manager interviewed in the video thought that the building could withstand multiple plane strikes.

Deasy  posted on  2014-08-13   19:09:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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