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Title: WATCH THIS, THE LOCALS KNOW THE FERGUSON RIOTERS ARE PAID
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Published: Aug 20, 2014
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Post Date: 2014-08-20 20:08:23 by Horse
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#1. To: Horse (#0) (Edited)
First of all it was not the locals doing the rioting. Many of the locals of Ferguson were not prepared to even set on the streets to protest as they had never done this before. They were totally unorganized.
After speaking with a freelance reporter and another from USAToday, yesterday and beforehand, they told me that the people doing the rioting were from out of town and many were not even from Ferguson. Many of them never even grew up in Ferguson and were not even familiar with the area at all. The one reporter I spoke to made a comment about this on FNC yesterday afternoon. In other words, the ones doing the actual rioting and destruction of local businesses and the throwing water bottles and assaulting police were agent provocateurs.
Second, if anyone is interested here is the Petition that is being submitted to the White House concerning Michael Brown.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/mike-brown-law-requires-all-state-county-and-local-police-wear-camera/8tlS5czf

purplerose posted on 2014-08-21 13:32:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#2. To: Horse, 4 (#0)
The Ferguson riot is typical of every riot I've been involved in, including the influx of outside agitators. My point being, since LBJs 1964 Civil Rights act, and the injection of trillions? of taxpayer dollars, Black ghettos are behaving exactly the same as they were 50 years ago. The only difference is the militarization of police departments which people like us identified years ago and rightfully reject.
"Pants Up, Don’t Loot"
Jethro Tull posted on 2014-08-21 14:03:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#3. To: purplerose (#1)
i have experience with APs. in Canada at a NAU summit.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2014-08-21 14:10:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#4. To: All (#2)
www.nbcnews.com/storyline...rest-records-show-n184036

Jail records obtained by NBC News show that at least 78 people were arrested overnight at the protests in Ferguson, Missouri — more than double the total reported by authorities — and that the overwhelming majority of them were from Missouri.
-Snip
The records show that 18 people from outside Missouri were arrested Monday night and early Tuesday. They came came from as far away as Brooklyn, Washington, D.C., and San Diego.
"Pants Up, Don’t Loot"
Jethro Tull posted on 2014-08-21 14:10:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#5. To: Jethro Tull, 4 (#4)
dorian johnson charged with theft, filing false statement -

www.ijreview.com/2014/08/...ling-false-police-report/
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2014-08-21 14:49:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#6. To: Jethro Tull (#4) (Edited)
Yes, numerous arrests were made and of those were white who were amongst many of those rioters throwing water bottles at the cops in a community that is predominantly black.

purplerose posted on 2014-08-21 15:10:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#7. To: Lod (#5)
I am still at question as to why this Dorian Johnson was never arrested in the first place.

purplerose posted on 2014-08-21 15:14:19 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#8. To: purplerose (#7)
Agree, he was an accessory from the get-go.
Ferguson PD is not a genius operation.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2014-08-21 15:17:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#9. To: purplerose (#6)
Yes, numerous arrests were made and of those were white who were amongst many of those rioters throwing water bottles at the cops in a community that is predominantly black.

What % of Whites to Blacks were arrested?
"Pants Up, Don’t Loot"
Jethro Tull posted on 2014-08-21 15:21:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#10. To: purplerose (#7)
I am still at question as to why this Dorian Johnson was never arrested in the first place.

The owner of the QT would be the complaint in the matter. We have no idea what he has testified to vis a vis the role Dorian Johnson played in this mess.
"Pants Up, Don’t Loot"
Jethro Tull posted on 2014-08-21 15:24:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#11. To: Jethro Tull (#9)
Can you say Z E R O ?
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2014-08-21 15:26:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#12. To: Lod (#11)
I'd go < 20%
"Pants Up, Don’t Loot"
Jethro Tull posted on 2014-08-21 15:31:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#13. To: Jethro Tull, purplerose (#10)
I am still at question as to why this Dorian Johnson was never arrested in the first place.
The owner of the QT would be the complaint in the matter. We have no idea what he has testified to vis a vis the role Dorian Johnson played in this mess.

You'll notice in the video where Brown reaches behind the counter that Brown first hands Johnson a box of cigars before grabbing the box that he presumably left the store with.
Before the clip ends, Johnson replaces the box he was handed on the counter. So is he an accomplice to the robbery? It looks like he can't be arrested for theft on his part. Accessory to theft of 50 bucks worth of stuff and jaywalking might be considered overkill in a case where there's a shooting involved. The outstanding warrant is another matter.
Curious to know what you think of these facts, Jethro.
"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
randge posted on 2014-08-21 15:47:27 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#14. To: Jethro Tull, purplerose, Lod, X-15, randge, Cynicom, Deasy, christine, Diana, James Deffenbach, abraxas, farmfriend, All (#10)
Police incident report about Mike Brown's strong arm robbery along with his accomplice, Dorian Johnson. This might bring light to purplerose's question about why Dorian Johnson has not been charged with being an accomplice in the OT strong robbery case.
FYI, purplerose, be prepared to read some bad news - i.e. it appears that MB and DJ, indeed, were main suspects in the crime.
Att'n All: There's a notation at the top of the pages under the slot labeled "Status" wherein the phrase "Exceptionally Cleared" is used.
JT - does that mean because Dorian Johnson is a key witness in the Grand Jury hearing of the Mike Brown/Officer Wilson case as well as possibly being a key witness for the DOJ if Holder decides to charge Officer Wilson for civil rights violations, Dorian Johnson has received "special clearance" from being charged as Mike Brown's accomplice in the robbery?
Mike Brown - for obvious reasons - also has the same "Exceptionally Cleared" notation on the police report.
www.scribd.com/doc/236905...epartment-incident-report

scrapper2 posted on 2014-08-21 15:55:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#15. To: randge, Lod, purplerose, 4 (#13)
Accessory to theft of 50 bucks worth of stuff and jaywalking might be considered overkill in a case where there's a shooting involved

Exactly randge.
Johnson is going nowhere and charges can be brought later if warranted.
BTW, Brown wasn't arrested either.
"Pants Up, Don’t Loot"
Jethro Tull posted on 2014-08-21 15:56:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#16. To: Jethro Tull (#15)
BTW, Brown wasn't arrested either.

DOH
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2014-08-21 16:09:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#17. To: Jethro Tull, purplerose, Lod, X-15, randge, Cynicom, Deasy, christine, Diana, James Deffenbach, abraxas, farmfriend, All (#14)
1. For what it's worth, here's a def'n re: exceptional clearance from a criminal justice glossary:
plsinfo.org/healthysmc/12/glossary.html

CLEARANCE: a crime is cleared or "solved" for crime reporting purposes when at least one person is arrested, charged with the commission of the crime, and turned over to the court for prosecution or cited to juvenile authorities. In certain situations a clearance may be counted by "exceptional means" when the police definitely know the identity of the offender, have enough information to support an arrest, and know the location of the offender but for some reason cannot take the offender into custody.
2. Here's a def'n/description from the FBI site:
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Cleared by exceptional means
In certain situations, elements beyond law enforcement’s control prevent the agency from arresting and formally charging the offender. When this occurs, the agency can clear the offense exceptionally. Law enforcement agencies must meet the following four conditions in order to clear an offense by exceptional means. The agency must have:
Identified the offender.
Gathered enough evidence to support an arrest, make a charge, and turn over the offender to the court for prosecution.
Identified the offender’s exact location so that the suspect could be taken into custody immediately.
Encountered a circumstance outside the control of law enforcement that prohibits the agency from arresting, charging, and prosecuting the offender.
Examples of exceptional clearances include, but are not limited to, the death of the offender (e.g., suicide or justifiably killed by police or citizen); the victim’s refusal to cooperate with the prosecution after the offender has been identified; or the denial of extradition because the offender committed a crime in another jurisdiction and is being prosecuted for that offense. In the UCR Program, the recovery of property alone does not clear an offense.

scrapper2 posted on 2014-08-21 16:10:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#18. To: scrapper2 (#14) (Edited)
Good find scrap.
The Ferguson, PD seems to be using the term "Exceptionally Cleared" to mean that the case is closed by means other than an arrest. With Brown, his death was the "exception" (other than arrest). As far as Johnson, the "exception" isn't known, but as noted there has been no arrest. I'm guessing he is cooperating with the feds.
BTW I'm hearing (from an NYPD forum) there might be some dashboard cam footage from Wilson's radio car that has been entered into evidence.
"Pants Up, Don’t Loot"
Jethro Tull posted on 2014-08-21 16:12:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#19. To: scrapper2 (#17)
Thanks for the research - appreciated.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2014-08-21 16:14:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#20. To: randge (#13) (Edited)
In a lot of states Dorian Johnson can conceivably have an assault-and-battery charge against Officer Wilson hung around his neck if he can be placed at the scene of Michael Browns' death as an accomplice.

Example- two perps knock over a liquor store. Perp #1 shoots and kills a clerk, Perp #2 is unarmed going in and out of the store. Both Perps escape only to have Perp #2 (the unarmed one) caught. Perp #2 can have the murder charge for the robbery applied against him even though he was unarmed and receive the death penalty.

Maybe Dorian Johnson will pick up an additional charge out of this whole deal.....
“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2014-08-21 16:17:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#21. To: Lod (#16)
DOH

I used to laugh at some cops who would cajole jumpers by saying, "it's against the law to commit suicide." True story.
"Pants Up, Don’t Loot"
Jethro Tull posted on 2014-08-21 16:18:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#22. To: Jethro Tull, purplerose, Lod, purplerose, 4 (#15)
Thot I'd throw this in the hopper. It's kind of speculative like a lot of stuff that I find on Rumor Mill News. It links back to here, and the article maintains that Darren Wilson will not be charged.
Just a heads up to folks here to be on the lookout for news that corroborates this story.
(My CT paranoia is whispering in my ear that a noll pross in this case could be the prelude to some more serious unrest.)

COLLAPSE? Radio Station Claims Primary Witness Will Admit Michael Brown Charged Officer Darren Wilson
Radio station KFNS-FM (100.7 FM, “The Viper”) of Troy, Missouri is reporting on its Facebook page a bombshell of a claim:

***BREAKING NEWS*** Remember, you saw it and heard it here first. We have heard (from a VERY connected national media source) that Ferguson officer Darren Wilson will be cleared in the shooting of Michael Brown. The key: Dorian Johnson has now admitted that Michael Brown attacked Officer Wilson and attempted to take his gun. OFFICER WILSON WILL NOT BE CHARGED! This is scary. When this news is made official, we all have reason to be concerned about the reaction.
If KFNS-FM’s claim that primary witness Dorian Johnson has admitted that Michael Brown turned and charged Officer Darren Wilson turns out to be accurate, it strongly suggests that Officer Darren Wilson be exonerated, and that his shooting of Michael Brown will be found to have been in self-defense.
The claim comes on the day after a night of protests in which 47 people were arrested and three loaded handguns were recovered.
The St. Louis County Circuit Court grand jury is scheduled to begin hearing evidence as early as today on the incident, depending on the ability of St. Louis County prosecutors to get witnesses to court to testify. Local reporter Christine Byers has claimed that police have more than a dozen witnesses that will testify that the 6’4", 290 lbs Brown charged Officer Wilson.
We caution Bearing Arms readers to take these claims with a degree of skepticism until we hear the official word from St. Louis County Prosecutor Bob McCullouch.

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
randge posted on 2014-08-21 16:19:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#23. To: randge, purplerose, Lod, 4 (#22)
COLLAPSE? Radio Station Claims Primary Witness Will Admit Michael Brown Charged Officer Darren Wilson

This wouldn't shock me. I think a lot of people will be surprised when the facts are all placed on the table. If Wilson isn't charged, those folks in or near cities better get ready to grid their loins.
"Pants Up, Don’t Loot"
Jethro Tull posted on 2014-08-21 16:35:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#24. To: Jethro Tull (#21)
As a LEO friend once said, the line between many cops and criminals is so thin as to almost be indistinguishable.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2014-08-21 16:38:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#25. To: Jethro Tull (#18)
BTW I'm hearing (from an NYPD forum) there might be some dashboard cam footage from Wilson's radio car that has been entered into evidence.

Thanks for your (experienced) opinion about why Dorian Johnson received an "exceptional clearance" - i.e. co-operation with the Feds - now that I think about it, I seem to recall that Dorian Johnson's attorney actually mentioned something to that effect in one of his pressers.
Re: dash camera from Officer Wilson's car - really? - that would be fabulous!!! - but I thought CNN and/or MSNBC claimed that that though Chief Jackson had recently received dashboard cameras for the Ferguson police cars, they had arrived just shortly before the Michael Brown shooting happened and were still in boxes.
Maybe MSM got their facts wrong - it wouldn't be the first time that's for sure.

scrapper2 posted on 2014-08-21 16:38:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#26. To: scrapper2 (#25)
I read that the cams were still uninstalled.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2014-08-21 16:44:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#27. To: Jethro Tull, purplerose, Lod, X-15, randge, Cynicom, Deasy, christine, Diana, James Deffenbach, abraxas, farmfriend, All (#17)
For anyone who is inclined, friends of Officer Wilson have set up a website to donate $ for his future financial needs, including legal fees. Hat tip to randge for finding the site.
I assume that the police union's legal support might have a cap limit. And I would think there's a good chance that Mike Brown's parents may/will launch a civil suit.
Based on what I've read per messages from donors, people are disturbed that Officer Brown has been tried and judged guilty by a kangaroo court set up by professional race baiters, biased MSM, and officials at the highest levels of government, before he has been given the opportunity to tell his side of story.
Personally I don't think that this is a case about police brutality or military -ization of police. IMHO this is a case of a good police officer forced into a horrific situation, who is being railroaded without cause, for political reasons.
I've read there's also a fund raising site for Michael Brown's family. I don't have the link, but if any of you are interested in donating to the Brown family, you can probably find it thru a google search.
www.gofundme.com/SupportOfficerWilson
snip
This page has been created to support Officer Darren Wilson of the Ferguson Police Department.
We stand behind Officer Darren Wilson and his family during this trying time in their lives. All proceeds will be sent directly to Darren Wilson and his family for any financial needs they may have including legal fees.
If anyone has questions regarding our page please feel free to contact us through this page.

scrapper2 posted on 2014-08-21 17:15:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#28. To: Lod (#8)
Oh I would definitely agree that Dorian was not only one of the suspects on the loose but that he was an accomplice with Brown.

purplerose posted on 2014-08-21 17:16:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#29. To: scrapper2 (#27)
No way am I funding Wilson. I already gave to Mike Brown's family.

purplerose posted on 2014-08-21 17:17:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#30. To: scrapper2 (#25) (Edited)
Why did the cops give Dorian Johnson an "exceptional clearance" when he was with Brown at the time of the theft took place? Both were seen on the store camera.

purplerose posted on 2014-08-21 17:19:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#31. To: Jethro Tull (#2)
The negroes riot and white liberal agitators come in and stir things up.
"Have Brain, Will Travel
Turtle posted on 2014-08-21 17:21:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#32. To: purplerose (#29)
No way am I funding Wilson. I already gave to Mike Brown's family.

I always did see through you.
"Have Brain, Will Travel
Turtle posted on 2014-08-21 17:22:42 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#33. To: randge (#22)
Thanks, range. But, I don't like relying on speculation or rumor or belief alone.

What I would actually like to really see happen is for all those (blacks AND whites) who were arrested for rioting and attacking those cops to have their faces plastered for the public to see for ourselves. Then, I'd like to know if they actually lived in that community of Ferguson or were from there. We do this kind exposure anyways to deadbeat dads why not do it for the community concerning rioters. They destroyed that community of Ferguson.

purplerose posted on 2014-08-21 17:25:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#34. To: Turtle (#32)
What I want to see is Wilson brought to justice. That is where a federal grand jury will see to this.

purplerose posted on 2014-08-21 17:26:37 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#35. To: purplerose (#29)
I already gave to Mike Brown's family.

Why?
“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2014-08-21 17:28:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#36. To: purplerose (#34)
What I want to see is Wilson brought to justice.

Justice is for the aggrieved, prosecution is for the guilty.

Cynicom posted on 2014-08-21 17:31:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#37. To: purplerose (#34)
What I want to see is Wilson brought to justice.

So you've made up your mind that Officer Wilson is a heathen criminal in dire need of lynch-mob justice disguised as due process??
“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2014-08-21 17:33:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#38. To: purpleroseX-15 (#29)
No way am I funding Wilson. I already gave to Mike Brown's family.

Astonishing.

Cynicom posted on 2014-08-21 17:35:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#39. To: Cynicom, 4 (#38)
I have the feeling that I've been contributing to Mike's family for generations now.
I could be wrong...
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2014-08-21 17:48:20 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#40. To: purplerose (#30)
Did you even bother to read information I posted re: 2 defn's of "exceptional clearance" in msg. #17?
Or JT's opinion in #18 based on his personal experience in law enforcement?
Here...I'll snip some stuff from #17 for you to ponder. I'll even capitalize key phrases as "clues" for you. Let me know if you want me to breathe and exhale for you, too.
"In certain situations a clearance may be counted by "exceptional means" when the police definitely know the identity of the offender, have enough information to support an arrest, and know the location of the offender but for some reason cannot take the offender into custody." Clue: FOR SOME REASON

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"Law enforcement agencies must meet the following four conditions in order to clear an offense by exceptional means. The agency must have:
Identified the offender.
Gathered enough evidence to support an arrest, make a charge, and turn over the offender to the court for prosecution.
Identified the offender’s exact location so that the suspect could be taken into custody immediately.
Encountered a circumstance outside the control of law enforcement that prohibits the agency from arresting, charging, and prosecuting the offender.
Clue: ENCOUNTERED A CIRCUMSTANCE OUTSIDE THE CONTROL OF LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT PROHIBITS
******************************************************************************

scrapper2 posted on 2014-08-21 17:48:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#41. To: Lod (#39)
ROFL! That's a fact, isn't it?

scrapper2 posted on 2014-08-21 17:49:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#42. To: Lod (#39)
I have the feeling that I've been contributing to Mike's family for generations now.

Indeed...
And you will continue to to contribute to future generations.
Just imagine if the "government dole was turned off".

Cynicom posted on 2014-08-21 17:51:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#43. To: Cynicom (#36)
Justice is for the aggrieved, prosecution is for the guilty.

What's going on with Officer Wilson now is none of the above.
I think the phrase "persecution for political reasons" is more appropriate.

scrapper2 posted on 2014-08-21 17:52:42 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#44. To: scrapper2 (#43)
I think the phrase "persecution for political reasons" is more appropriate.

And white American politicians say nothing.
Not one elected will stand up and denounce Obama, Holder.
Gutless bastards.

Cynicom posted on 2014-08-21 17:57:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#45. To: Cynicom, scrapper2, Lod (#44)
Not one elected will stand up and denounce Obama, Holder.
Gutless bastards.

Couldn't chance a riot in D.C., the lobbyists with their suitcases and high- dollar whores would have to stay out of town until the 'festivities' subsided. You know how sausage...err, legislation....is made on Crapitol Hill.......
“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2014-08-21 18:08:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#46. To: Lod, All (#39) (Edited)
We all have been 'contributing' to LBJ's War on Poverty.....'n sheeit.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2014-08-21 18:13:04 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#47. To: X-15 (#45)
X...
Next Holder will go for "premeditated murder" and stupid jury will go for it.
Course he would have to splain to black Africans what that means.

Cynicom posted on 2014-08-21 18:14:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#48. To: X-15 (#46)
When LBJ was elected, I was only one that voted for Goldwater where I worked for FAA.

Cynicom posted on 2014-08-21 18:16:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#49. To: Cynicom (#47)
We'll see if Holder sends an FBI SWAT team to take down...err, arrest...Officer Wilson with every news media camera-crew on the planet assembled for the proceedings.
“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2014-08-21 18:18:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#50. To: Cynicom (#44) (Edited)
True.
But in their defense, since this such a politically, racially charged situation with continued violence, looting, and rioting in Ferguson I think it's the only thing they should do under the circumstances.
Consider what happened after Capt Jackson released the QT video tape in response to FOIA's that showed Michael Johnson - by his actions - in a negative light. Ferguson Blacks went nuts that weekend.
The Blacks in Ferguson have embraced Holder like he's "their brother, their man, their DOJ."
Can you imagine the firestorm if any elected official came out and criticized "their" Holder or "their President" Obama?
On a side note, many donors to Officer Wilson fund raiser website only identify themselves as "anonymous." I think they fear negative repercussions either to themselves and family members, or to their businesses, or to their town, neighborhood. I'd wager that donors at Mike Brown's family fund raising site identify themselves by 1st and or/last name way more often than using "anonymous." Just a wild guess...
Officer Wilson's supporters wanted to organize a rally and they couldn't find a business that would volunteer use of their facility or parking lot in Ferguson. A pub owned by police officers on the edge of Ferguson finally offered their facility and parking lot for the rally and they will be providing free wings and free non-alcoholic beverages ( my understanding last I checked their Facebook page).

scrapper2 posted on 2014-08-21 18:26:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#51. To: Cynicom (#48)
I was too young, but my parents, family, and their friends voted AuH20.
Kennedy's death insured his killer's election.
What a country.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2014-08-21 18:34:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#52. To: scrapper2 (#50)
I told'em to use my name - I'm proud to have donated to Wilson's defense fund.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2014-08-21 18:37:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#53. To: scrapper2 (#50)
The government is broken, the justice system is broken and white Americans say nothing, see nothing, do nothing.

Cynicom posted on 2014-08-21 18:39:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#54. To: Lod (#52)
Where is url for that?

Cynicom posted on 2014-08-21 18:40:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#55. To: Lod, scrapper2, Cynicom, randge, Turtle, X-15, 4, *Post Of The Day* (#39)
I have the feeling that I've been contributing to Mike's family for generations now.
I could be wrong...

Lod...
Bang!
"Post of the Day" isn't enough. This is worthy of Post of the Year!
"Pants Up, Don’t Loot"
Jethro Tull posted on 2014-08-21 18:45:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#56. To: Jethro Tull (#55) (Edited)
Population New York City...
Total...New York, NY 8,175,133

Blacks...New York, NY 2,228,145

When the bell rings, there is but one general direction out...WEST...

Cynicom posted on 2014-08-21 18:55:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#57. To: purplerose (#34)
What I want to see is Wilson brought to justice.

How ironic that you are urging that the legal system do to Wilson what Blacks across this nation have been complaining about for decades; that being presumed guilty by the system before they ever have their day in court.
"Pants Up, Don’t Loot"
Jethro Tull posted on 2014-08-21 19:02:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#58. To: Cynicom, 4 (#54)
thanks to scrap -

www.gofundme.com/SupportOfficerWilson
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2014-08-21 19:04:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#59. To: All (#58)
Dang, when I donated, there was only 134+K in the kitty.
Good job, people!
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2014-08-21 19:07:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#60. To: Cynicom (#56)

They'll never get past the Poconos.
"Pants Up, Don’t Loot"
Jethro Tull posted on 2014-08-21 19:12:05 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#61. To: Lod, scrapper2, 4 (#59)
$161,266 now
"Pants Up, Don’t Loot"
Jethro Tull posted on 2014-08-21 19:18:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#62. To: Jethro Tull (#61)
We should have internet trials and voting.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2014-08-21 19:21:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#63. To: Lod (#62)
We should have internet trials and voting.

Yes, and then convene Grand Juries for the real racists; Holder, Sharpton, Jackson and Obama.
"Pants Up, Don’t Loot"
Jethro Tull posted on 2014-08-21 19:25:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#64. To: Jethro Tull (#63)
How can this Grand Jury judging the Ferguson case not be unfairly influenced by the biased "news" reporting in MSM?
Or are they held in seclusion for big cases?

scrapper2 posted on 2014-08-21 19:30:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#65. To: Jethro Tull (#63)
I believe that more just outcomes could be achieved over the web than from 12, or 6, cherry-picked morons.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2014-08-21 19:31:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#66. To: scrapper2, 4 (#64)
Grand Juries aren't sequestered so this GJ is most assuredly tainted thanks to Nixon, Holder, Obama and the MSM. I'm surprised his attorney disn't ask for a change of venue and rolled the dice away from Ferguson. I wouldn’t trust anyone there after hearing and seeing the various street interviews over the past week.
"Pants Up, Don’t Loot"
Jethro Tull posted on 2014-08-21 20:05:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#67. To: Jethro Tull, Lod, sneaky pete, Too Conservative, X-15, randge, Cynicom, Deasy, christine, Diana, James Deffenbach, abraxas, farmfriend, ghostdogtxn, All (#66)
If any of you post at other blogs ( LP, FR, lucianne, NRA etc) whose members you think might be interested in supporting Officer Wilson's right to a fair trial and expert legal counsel, please direct them to the following fund raising website some friends have established on Officer Wilson's behalf here:
www.gofundme.com/SupportOfficerWilson
A few days ago I thought that once all the evidence was heard by the GJ, the Truth would set Officer Wilson free. But now with all the pressure being brought to bear by what I perceive to be, for lack of a better description - a lynch mob - I'm not optimistic that Truth will be enough. I fear that a GJ indictment is almost certain due to unfair influence by external forces, and Officer Wilson will need to hire a private attorney to assist and/or direct the legal services that his police union can afford to provide.
In this country everyone including Officer Wilson should have the presumption of innocence until proven guilty but unfortunately that doesn't seem to be what Officer Wilson is experiencing.

scrapper2 posted on 2014-08-21 20:34:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#68. To: scrapper2 (#67)
Time to thank you again for your relentless assembly of facts here.

Deasy posted on 2014-08-21 20:37:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#69. To: scrapper2, 4 (#67)
Almost up to 169K now.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2014-08-21 20:39:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#70. To: Lod (#51)
I was too young, but my parents, family, and their friends voted AuH20.

With all the problems we've had regarding the Israeli question, and so on and so forth, things might have been a lot better if Jewish Barry Goldwater had been elected.

Deasy posted on 2014-08-21 20:52:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#71. To: Deasy (#70)
Things couldn't have been much worse than with the jew johnson...possibly the sorriest pos potus of all time.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2014-08-21 21:26:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#72. To: Lod (#71)
They were both jews parading as Christians.

Cynicom posted on 2014-08-21 21:30:23 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#73. To: Cynicom (#72)
Well, yes, they couldn't have run out with their beanies on, now could they?
The whole thing is just too insane for words.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2014-08-21 21:35:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#74. To: Deasy (#68)
For some reason this case involving Officer Wilson has struck a chord with me.
His photos show an open face and a nice smile but his eyes seem a bit sad, suggesting an "old soul."
Officer Wilson didn't have an easy "cracker" life. His mother and Dad broke up after 4 years of marriage. Then she re-married 2 more times. Ultimately she was charged with forgery and died shortly thereafter when Officer Wilson was age 16. With all this upheaval in his life, he still managed to be on the honor roll at school. After his mother died, his step father - with his Dad's approval - applied for temporary guardianship so Officer Wilson could finish high school at same place. While in high school he was a member of the school newspaper club and he played varsity hockey. His friend said that though hockey can be an aggressive physical sport, Officer Wilson never engaged in hockey fighting nor did he play dirty.
Other friends say he's a nice, gentle, even tempered guy who never had a bad thing to say about anyone. He used to walk or ride his bike everywhere - he didn't have a car in high school like some of the other kids.
A few years after finishing high school, he joined the police force at age 22. His friends said that Officer Wilson loved being a police officer. When he transferred to the Ferguson police department, he would work out in Ferguson even tho his friends thought it was not a great area but Officer Wilson said he liked the people there - he thought they were interesting.
He got married to his girlfriend at the time but the marriage was short lived and they divorced in Nov, 2013.
He bought a house just before the divorce was finalized - it's an older ranch style home but it has a swimming pool and a neighbor said Officer Wilson used to allow teenagers on the street to use his pool on hot nights. Neighbors also said they'd see his thin lanky self walking his dog after work. His house had a couch on the veranda for kicking back. He's wasn't a partier. He was quiet and lived with his current girlfriend ( also a police officer) at his house.
Another person who was interviewed said he was considering joining the police force so he got permission "to ride" with Officer Wilson one night in Ferguson. There was an incident involving a hysterical woman who needed to be taken to a hospital. The paramedics were uncomfortable transporting this out-of -control woman so they called police for help. Evidently Officer Wilson tried to calm the woman down, but it didn't work. So he came up with a solution that satisfied the patient and the medics - he asked her if she'd prefer traveling in her family's car rather than the ambulance - she said yes and calmed down and everyone left happy. Other policemen might have shouted at her or bullied her which would have made her more agitated. But Officer Wilson stayed calm through the whole rather frustrating emotional incident according to this "ride along" person. Approx. 6 months ago Officer Wilson was called to an incident involving a drug trafficker who had lots of weed in his truck. Officer Wilson didn't use force to subdue the guy - apparently he patiently waited with the drug trafficker in the truck talking to him calmly until other police cars arrived to take the guy into custody. Officer Wilson got a commendation for how he handled that incident.
Nothing I've read about Officer Wilson suggests that he was a pugnacious, over bearing, quick tempered, obnoxious racist. Everything I've read about him suggests he's a good person, who has had to survive a tumultous early family life, but he landed on his feet and is just trying to make a career for himself and get by in life like the rest of us.
Officer Wilson could be anyone of us. For all his efforts to keep his head down and work hard and strive for "the American Dream" - as it were - unfortunately he found himself in the wrong place at the wrong time literally with regards to Michael Brown and figuratively as it relates to current US politics. IMHO, he is being scape-goated and Officer Wilson could be you or me depending on the situation. His financial resources are very limited - he's age 28 earning an annual salary of around $46,000 and he has a house mortgage to pony up. One of the donors at the fund raising site remarked that Officer Wilson is up against some of the most powerful people and agencies in our gov't with unlimited funds at their disposal.
I feel very sad for Officer Wilson ( I can't seem to get those sad, old soul, blue eyes out of my mind) that he is being betrayed so viciously and relentlessly by the nation he was so excited and happy and proud to serve as a police officer. Shame on all of us if we allow Officer Wilson to become a sacrificial lamb.

scrapper2 posted on 2014-08-21 22:07:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#75. To: scrapper2 (#74)
Wonderful story - thank you...Wilson's not dirty.
Please keep linking the donation site on your posts, thanks, lod
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2014-08-21 22:13:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#76. To: randge, Jethro Tull, purplerose, Lod, purplerose, (#22)
Won't matter. Blacks are already claiming a cover up and attempts to smear Brown. They will never accept the truth.

farmfriend posted on 2014-08-21 22:29:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#77. To: scrapper2 (#40) (Edited)
Well, in my estimation, those cops are just as guilty because when I watched a video account of Mike Brown shoving aside the clerk before he made haste outside the store, I noticed that his friend Dorian Johnson had already made his exit outside the store all the while his friend Brown was attempting to make his exit. This is where the police fucked up BIG TIME. They should have arrested Dorian and charged him with being an accessory to a crime. Being an accessory to a crime is nothing to laugh at or ignore but the police failed to do their duty on this one.

Instead, for some reason they chose not to arrest and charge Dorian and that is where the federal grand jury will question Wilson inaddition to the shooting done on Brown. And interesting enough, all cops record communication when confronting a suspect even during times of hot pursuit cases. They are gonna have to explain why and where THAT tape is concerning their communication with Brown prior to him getting gunned down. That may even have to be subpoenaed by the federal grand jury.

purplerose posted on 2014-08-21 23:08:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#78. To: farmfriend, 4 (#76)
Won't matter. Blacks are already claiming a cover up and attempts to smear Brown. They will never accept the truth.

You got that right ff. They and their supporters are low IQ'ers who emote rather than think. They enter the arena of ideas clueless and leave convinced.
"Pants Up, Don’t Loot"
Jethro Tull posted on 2014-08-21 23:38:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#79. To: purplerose (#77) (Edited)
They are gonna have to explain why and where THAT tape is concerning their communication with Brown prior to him getting gunned down. That may even have to be subpoenaed by the federal grand jury.

No offense but you're off your rocker.
The tape has not disappeared. It's not hidden anywhere.
Chief Jackson responded to the Freedom of Information request and released it for the entire nation to view last Friday at a presser... over the objections of Eric Holder, I might add, who wanted to suppress the tape from public view.
The police records regarding the investigation of the QT strong-arm robbery by Big Mike and Dorian Johnson have also been released to the public. How else do you think I'd be able to provide a link to the full-text police reports in msg. #17? FYI there was no "communication" with Michael Brown. Didn't you read the police reports? The investigating officer who went to interview the shop manager and the shop witnesses couldn't find Michael Brown and Dorian Johnson on the street near the shop. They were already long gone.
The reason Dorian Johnson has not been charged is because the Ferguson Police Department are PROHIBITED from doing so because of "exceptional clearance" issued to Dorian Johnson by the DOJ ( Eric Holder).
Anything else I can clarify for you?
It's frustrating to have a discussion with you on this subject because it seems like you have made up your mind on the issue yet you have questions and want research information provided to you on a silver platter in response. But after the information is provided you come back again with more questions that reveal you are totally confused about actual facts of the case (as opposed to opinions) and that you haven't bothered or cared to read the information provided to you in regards to your previous questions.

scrapper2 posted on 2014-08-21 23:46:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#80. To: scrapper2 (#79) (Edited)
"Chief Jackson..."
Anything else I can clarify for you?

Who is Chief Jackson???

The reason Dorian Johnson has not been charged is because the Ferguson Police Department are PROHIBITED from doing so because of "extraordinary clearance" issued to Dorian Johnson by the DOJ ( Eric Holder).
Which sounds to me like a coverup in progress and complete bullshit! He should have been charged period. "Extraordinary clearance" is just a concocted up excuse to allow this dude to walk away from a crime. And now that you tell me about the police being prohibited from charging this Dorian guy with accessory to a crime, I am convinced that this whole investigation has been grossly compromised. Dorian saw something take place outside that QT store and because of this, he is the star witness to this entire mess. They already struck a deal with Dorian that if he does not testify against them, they will not charge him with any crime. And because of this it all smells of collusion, malfeasance, and corruption within the police department of highest level in that town.

purplerose posted on 2014-08-22 0:35:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#81. To: scrapper2 (#79)
of the QT strong-arm robbery

I know exactly where that store is at because I used to stop at it all the time. But it's not longer a QT; apparently some Indians bought it. So it looks like QT pulled out of the area, probably because it went from one-third black to two-thirds black.
"Have Brain, Will Travel
Turtle posted on 2014-08-22 0:37:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#82. To: purplerose (#80) (Edited)
1. Who is Chief Jackson???
2. Which sounds to me like a coverup in progress and complete bullshit! He should have been charged period. "Extraordinary clearance" is just a concocted excuse to allow this dude to walk away from a crime.

1. He's the Ferguson Police Chief.
Hwy Patrol Capt Johnson, appointed by Governor Nixon, was temporarily put in charge of riot, looting control.
2. Eric Holder and the DOJ and his 40 FBI officers are conducting their own investigation as to whether or not Michael Brown's civil rights were violated under the color of law. You can read about the Federal Statute here:
www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/242
Anyway it appears that Dorian Johnson is co-operating with the Feds in their investigation - he's a witness to the tragedy - so that's why the DOJ has given him "Exceptional Clearance" on being an accomplice to the QT robbery. This clearance prohibits the Ferguson Police dept from ever charging Dorian Johnson in that specific crime. It is what it is.

scrapper2 posted on 2014-08-22 1:02:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#83. To: scrapper2 (#82) (Edited)
It is what it is.

What it actually IS is a coverup. A deal has already been struck up between Dorian and Police Dept including the U.S. DOJ. In other words he has agreed to not testify against the police for the unlawful shooting of his friend, Mike Brown, and in return the police and DOJ will not charge him with a crime. To sum it all up, nobody goes to jail!

purplerose posted on 2014-08-22 1:07:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#84. To: purplerose (#83) (Edited)
hat it actually IS is a coverup. A deal has already been struck up between Dorian and Police Dept including the U.S. DOJ. In other words he has agreed to not testify against the police for the unlawful shooting of his friend, Mike Brown, and in return the police and DOJ will not charge him with a crime. To sum it all up, nobody goes to jail!

My guess is that the Ferguson Police Dept would love to charge Dorian Johnson ( who has a rap sheet, btw)and throw him in jail.
The exceptional clearance is from Eric Holder and the DOJ.
Eric Holder appears to have an agenda to charge Officer Wilson with something, anything for political and possibly even for personal reasons.
The Ferguson Police Dept does not share Eric Holder's agenda.
I don't see any way whatsoever that the Ferguson Police Dept would be party to the DOJ giving Dorian Johnson - a lying criminal weasel in their eyes - a get out of jail free pass.
Think about it. Dorian Johnson's testimony will be at odds with Officer Wilson's testimony.

scrapper2 posted on 2014-08-22 1:29:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#85. To: scrapper2 (#84)
Clearance has got nothing to do with the feds.
He's gonna get that from the local prosecutor.
Johnson's attorney offered up a "no comment" when asked if his client has been offered immunity, which leads me to believe that he has and that he's turning state's evidence.
"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
randge posted on 2014-08-22 8:12:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#86. To: randge (#85)
that he's turning state's evidence.

Very possible.
However it would be very dangerous for him.

Cynicom posted on 2014-08-22 8:31:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#87. To: Cynicom, randge, scrapper2, 4 (#86)
That the prosecution finds him an essential witness, who, btw, has a history of giving false statements, should make Wilson's defense salivate.
"Pants Up, Don’t Loot"
Jethro Tull posted on 2014-08-22 8:52:18 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#88. To: Jethro Tull (#87) (Edited)
Didju know that MB is a highly accomplished rap artist?

Listen to Mike Brown’s VERY Explicit Rap Songs Featuring Drugs, Drinking and Murder
"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
randge posted on 2014-08-22 9:43:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#89. To: randge (#88)
The link won't work randge.
Does he do anything by Perry Como? Mario Lanza?
The phrase for the day is, "undocumented shoppers."
Jethro Tull posted on 2014-08-22 10:09:19 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#90. To: Cynicom, randge, Jethro Tull (#86) (Edited)
However it would be very dangerous for him.

You betcha.
If Dorian lies to the state prosecutor and the GJ, that can have nasty consequences for him. That's a double whammy of giving a false statement to the police, which he's already done once before.
And this state prosecutor is the guy who Al Sharpton and Mike Brown's family and the state senator want removed from the GJ case, because they claim being the son of a police officer who was murdered by a Black perp when he was 12 years old makes him unsympathetic to Mike Brown's memory (and to Dorian). Also this prosecutor had wanted to be a police officer himself but he lost a leg to cancer when he was in his teens, so he was forced to go law school instead.
Randge - you are probably right that Dorian got the clearance from the state prosecutor - not the DOJ - because the state will go first presenting the case to the GJ.
Woo hoo! - pass the popcorn - this is going to be fun.
I think Dorian would have been much better off getting clearance from "his man, Eric" rather than the state prosecutor, because if he lied to the former, there'd probably be no consequences except for a fist pump and slap on the hand - but with the state prosecutor that's a different kettle of fish.

scrapper2 posted on 2014-08-22 10:21:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#91. To: randge (#85)
Clearance is immunity for sure and the state goes first presenting the case to the GJ before the DOJ, if it went that far.
But I doubt the state would give Dorian immunity from the consequences of lying under oath to the GJ or from giving a false statement to the state prosecutor.
I mean that would not make sense. The presumption is that Dorian is telling the truth, right, so he has nothing to fear...cough, cough...from the state prosecutor...

scrapper2 posted on 2014-08-22 10:30:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#92. To: Jethro Tull (#89)
The link won't work randge.

Fixed an html typo.
Listen to Mike Brown’s VERY Explicit Rap Songs Featuring Drugs, Drinking and Murder
Does he do anything by Perry Como? Mario Lanza?
Nope. No Lanza. No Como. Jes' gutter squawk self-promo. You'll see and hear just where his head was at.
"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
randge posted on 2014-08-22 12:03:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#93. To: scrapper2 (#90)
Woo hoo! - pass the popcorn - this is going to be fun

Katy bar the door.
Have feeling this may get real ugly. We may not yet have seen the worst of it.
"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
randge posted on 2014-08-22 12:06:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#94. To: randge, All (#93)
We may not yet have seen the worst of it.

Or maybe we're about to see a lot of good coming from the Ferguson events.
The sheeple may be waking up - America isn't over just yet - see here:
freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...i?ArtNum=169048&Disp=1#C1

scrapper2 posted on 2014-08-22 12:10:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
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