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Title: WATCH THIS, THE LOCALS KNOW THE FERGUSON RIOTERS ARE PAID
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Published: Aug 20, 2014
Author: staff
Post Date: 2014-08-20 20:08:23 by Horse
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#55. To: Lod, scrapper2, Cynicom, randge, Turtle, X-15, 4, *Post Of The Day* (#39)

I have the feeling that I've been contributing to Mike's family for generations now.

I could be wrong...

Lod...

Bang!

"Post of the Day" isn't enough. This is worthy of Post of the Year!

"Pants Up, Don’t Loot"

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-08-21   18:45:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Jethro Tull (#55)
(Edited)

Population New York City...

Total...New York, NY 8,175,133

Blacks...New York, NY 2,228,145

When the bell rings, there is but one general direction out...WEST...

Cynicom  posted on  2014-08-21   18:55:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: purplerose (#34)

What I want to see is Wilson brought to justice.

How ironic that you are urging that the legal system do to Wilson what Blacks across this nation have been complaining about for decades; that being presumed guilty by the system before they ever have their day in court.

"Pants Up, Don’t Loot"

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-08-21   19:02:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Cynicom, 4 (#54)

thanks to scrap -

www.gofundme.com/SupportOfficerWilson

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-08-21   19:04:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: All (#58)

Dang, when I donated, there was only 134+K in the kitty.

Good job, people!

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-08-21   19:07:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Cynicom (#56)

They'll never get past the Poconos.

"Pants Up, Don’t Loot"

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-08-21   19:12:05 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Lod, scrapper2, 4 (#59)

$161,266 now

"Pants Up, Don’t Loot"

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-08-21   19:18:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Jethro Tull (#61)

We should have internet trials and voting.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-08-21   19:21:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Lod (#62)

We should have internet trials and voting.

Yes, and then convene Grand Juries for the real racists; Holder, Sharpton, Jackson and Obama.

"Pants Up, Don’t Loot"

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-08-21   19:25:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Jethro Tull (#63)

How can this Grand Jury judging the Ferguson case not be unfairly influenced by the biased "news" reporting in MSM?

Or are they held in seclusion for big cases?

scrapper2  posted on  2014-08-21   19:30:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Jethro Tull (#63)

I believe that more just outcomes could be achieved over the web than from 12, or 6, cherry-picked morons.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-08-21   19:31:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: scrapper2, 4 (#64)

Grand Juries aren't sequestered so this GJ is most assuredly tainted thanks to Nixon, Holder, Obama and the MSM. I'm surprised his attorney disn't ask for a change of venue and rolled the dice away from Ferguson. I wouldn’t trust anyone there after hearing and seeing the various street interviews over the past week.

"Pants Up, Don’t Loot"

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-08-21   20:05:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Jethro Tull, Lod, sneaky pete, Too Conservative, X-15, randge, Cynicom, Deasy, christine, Diana, James Deffenbach, abraxas, farmfriend, ghostdogtxn, All (#66)

If any of you post at other blogs ( LP, FR, lucianne, NRA etc) whose members you think might be interested in supporting Officer Wilson's right to a fair trial and expert legal counsel, please direct them to the following fund raising website some friends have established on Officer Wilson's behalf here:

www.gofundme.com/SupportOfficerWilson

A few days ago I thought that once all the evidence was heard by the GJ, the Truth would set Officer Wilson free. But now with all the pressure being brought to bear by what I perceive to be, for lack of a better description - a lynch mob - I'm not optimistic that Truth will be enough. I fear that a GJ indictment is almost certain due to unfair influence by external forces, and Officer Wilson will need to hire a private attorney to assist and/or direct the legal services that his police union can afford to provide.

In this country everyone including Officer Wilson should have the presumption of innocence until proven guilty but unfortunately that doesn't seem to be what Officer Wilson is experiencing.

scrapper2  posted on  2014-08-21   20:34:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: scrapper2 (#67)

Time to thank you again for your relentless assembly of facts here.

Deasy  posted on  2014-08-21   20:37:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: scrapper2, 4 (#67)

Almost up to 169K now.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-08-21   20:39:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Lod (#51)

I was too young, but my parents, family, and their friends voted AuH20.

With all the problems we've had regarding the Israeli question, and so on and so forth, things might have been a lot better if Jewish Barry Goldwater had been elected.

Deasy  posted on  2014-08-21   20:52:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Deasy (#70)

Things couldn't have been much worse than with the jew johnson...possibly the sorriest pos potus of all time.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-08-21   21:26:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Lod (#71)

They were both jews parading as Christians.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-08-21   21:30:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Cynicom (#72)

Well, yes, they couldn't have run out with their beanies on, now could they?

The whole thing is just too insane for words.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-08-21   21:35:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Deasy (#68)

For some reason this case involving Officer Wilson has struck a chord with me.

His photos show an open face and a nice smile but his eyes seem a bit sad, suggesting an "old soul."

Officer Wilson didn't have an easy "cracker" life. His mother and Dad broke up after 4 years of marriage. Then she re-married 2 more times. Ultimately she was charged with forgery and died shortly thereafter when Officer Wilson was age 16. With all this upheaval in his life, he still managed to be on the honor roll at school. After his mother died, his step father - with his Dad's approval - applied for temporary guardianship so Officer Wilson could finish high school at same place. While in high school he was a member of the school newspaper club and he played varsity hockey. His friend said that though hockey can be an aggressive physical sport, Officer Wilson never engaged in hockey fighting nor did he play dirty.

Other friends say he's a nice, gentle, even tempered guy who never had a bad thing to say about anyone. He used to walk or ride his bike everywhere - he didn't have a car in high school like some of the other kids.

A few years after finishing high school, he joined the police force at age 22. His friends said that Officer Wilson loved being a police officer. When he transferred to the Ferguson police department, he would work out in Ferguson even tho his friends thought it was not a great area but Officer Wilson said he liked the people there - he thought they were interesting.

He got married to his girlfriend at the time but the marriage was short lived and they divorced in Nov, 2013.

He bought a house just before the divorce was finalized - it's an older ranch style home but it has a swimming pool and a neighbor said Officer Wilson used to allow teenagers on the street to use his pool on hot nights. Neighbors also said they'd see his thin lanky self walking his dog after work. His house had a couch on the veranda for kicking back. He's wasn't a partier. He was quiet and lived with his current girlfriend ( also a police officer) at his house.

Another person who was interviewed said he was considering joining the police force so he got permission "to ride" with Officer Wilson one night in Ferguson. There was an incident involving a hysterical woman who needed to be taken to a hospital. The paramedics were uncomfortable transporting this out-of -control woman so they called police for help. Evidently Officer Wilson tried to calm the woman down, but it didn't work. So he came up with a solution that satisfied the patient and the medics - he asked her if she'd prefer traveling in her family's car rather than the ambulance - she said yes and calmed down and everyone left happy. Other policemen might have shouted at her or bullied her which would have made her more agitated. But Officer Wilson stayed calm through the whole rather frustrating emotional incident according to this "ride along" person. Approx. 6 months ago Officer Wilson was called to an incident involving a drug trafficker who had lots of weed in his truck. Officer Wilson didn't use force to subdue the guy - apparently he patiently waited with the drug trafficker in the truck talking to him calmly until other police cars arrived to take the guy into custody. Officer Wilson got a commendation for how he handled that incident.

Nothing I've read about Officer Wilson suggests that he was a pugnacious, over bearing, quick tempered, obnoxious racist. Everything I've read about him suggests he's a good person, who has had to survive a tumultous early family life, but he landed on his feet and is just trying to make a career for himself and get by in life like the rest of us.

Officer Wilson could be anyone of us. For all his efforts to keep his head down and work hard and strive for "the American Dream" - as it were - unfortunately he found himself in the wrong place at the wrong time literally with regards to Michael Brown and figuratively as it relates to current US politics. IMHO, he is being scape-goated and Officer Wilson could be you or me depending on the situation. His financial resources are very limited - he's age 28 earning an annual salary of around $46,000 and he has a house mortgage to pony up. One of the donors at the fund raising site remarked that Officer Wilson is up against some of the most powerful people and agencies in our gov't with unlimited funds at their disposal.

I feel very sad for Officer Wilson ( I can't seem to get those sad, old soul, blue eyes out of my mind) that he is being betrayed so viciously and relentlessly by the nation he was so excited and happy and proud to serve as a police officer. Shame on all of us if we allow Officer Wilson to become a sacrificial lamb.

scrapper2  posted on  2014-08-21   22:07:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: scrapper2 (#74)

Wonderful story - thank you...Wilson's not dirty.

Please keep linking the donation site on your posts, thanks, lod

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-08-21   22:13:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: randge, Jethro Tull, purplerose, Lod, purplerose, (#22)

Won't matter. Blacks are already claiming a cover up and attempts to smear Brown. They will never accept the truth.

farmfriend  posted on  2014-08-21   22:29:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: scrapper2 (#40) (Edited)

Well, in my estimation, those cops are just as guilty because when I watched a video account of Mike Brown shoving aside the clerk before he made haste outside the store, I noticed that his friend Dorian Johnson had already made his exit outside the store all the while his friend Brown was attempting to make his exit. This is where the police fucked up BIG TIME. They should have arrested Dorian and charged him with being an accessory to a crime. Being an accessory to a crime is nothing to laugh at or ignore but the police failed to do their duty on this one.

Instead, for some reason they chose not to arrest and charge Dorian and that is where the federal grand jury will question Wilson inaddition to the shooting done on Brown. And interesting enough, all cops record communication when confronting a suspect even during times of hot pursuit cases. They are gonna have to explain why and where THAT tape is concerning their communication with Brown prior to him getting gunned down. That may even have to be subpoenaed by the federal grand jury.

purplerose  posted on  2014-08-21   23:08:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: farmfriend, 4 (#76)

Won't matter. Blacks are already claiming a cover up and attempts to smear Brown. They will never accept the truth.

You got that right ff. They and their supporters are low IQ'ers who emote rather than think. They enter the arena of ideas clueless and leave convinced.

"Pants Up, Don’t Loot"

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-08-21   23:38:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: purplerose (#77) (Edited)

They are gonna have to explain why and where THAT tape is concerning their communication with Brown prior to him getting gunned down. That may even have to be subpoenaed by the federal grand jury.

No offense but you're off your rocker.

The tape has not disappeared. It's not hidden anywhere.

Chief Jackson responded to the Freedom of Information request and released it for the entire nation to view last Friday at a presser... over the objections of Eric Holder, I might add, who wanted to suppress the tape from public view.

The police records regarding the investigation of the QT strong-arm robbery by Big Mike and Dorian Johnson have also been released to the public. How else do you think I'd be able to provide a link to the full-text police reports in msg. #17? FYI there was no "communication" with Michael Brown. Didn't you read the police reports? The investigating officer who went to interview the shop manager and the shop witnesses couldn't find Michael Brown and Dorian Johnson on the street near the shop. They were already long gone.

The reason Dorian Johnson has not been charged is because the Ferguson Police Department are PROHIBITED from doing so because of "exceptional clearance" issued to Dorian Johnson by the DOJ ( Eric Holder).

Anything else I can clarify for you?

It's frustrating to have a discussion with you on this subject because it seems like you have made up your mind on the issue yet you have questions and want research information provided to you on a silver platter in response. But after the information is provided you come back again with more questions that reveal you are totally confused about actual facts of the case (as opposed to opinions) and that you haven't bothered or cared to read the information provided to you in regards to your previous questions.

scrapper2  posted on  2014-08-21   23:46:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: scrapper2 (#79) (Edited)

"Chief Jackson..."

Anything else I can clarify for you?

Who is Chief Jackson???

The reason Dorian Johnson has not been charged is because the Ferguson Police Department are PROHIBITED from doing so because of "extraordinary clearance" issued to Dorian Johnson by the DOJ ( Eric Holder).

Which sounds to me like a coverup in progress and complete bullshit! He should have been charged period. "Extraordinary clearance" is just a concocted up excuse to allow this dude to walk away from a crime. And now that you tell me about the police being prohibited from charging this Dorian guy with accessory to a crime, I am convinced that this whole investigation has been grossly compromised. Dorian saw something take place outside that QT store and because of this, he is the star witness to this entire mess. They already struck a deal with Dorian that if he does not testify against them, they will not charge him with any crime. And because of this it all smells of collusion, malfeasance, and corruption within the police department of highest level in that town.

purplerose  posted on  2014-08-22   0:35:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: scrapper2 (#79)

of the QT strong-arm robbery

I know exactly where that store is at because I used to stop at it all the time. But it's not longer a QT; apparently some Indians bought it. So it looks like QT pulled out of the area, probably because it went from one-third black to two-thirds black.

"Have Brain, Will Travel

Turtle  posted on  2014-08-22   0:37:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: purplerose (#80) (Edited)

1. Who is Chief Jackson???

2. Which sounds to me like a coverup in progress and complete bullshit! He should have been charged period. "Extraordinary clearance" is just a concocted excuse to allow this dude to walk away from a crime.

1. He's the Ferguson Police Chief.

Hwy Patrol Capt Johnson, appointed by Governor Nixon, was temporarily put in charge of riot, looting control.

2. Eric Holder and the DOJ and his 40 FBI officers are conducting their own investigation as to whether or not Michael Brown's civil rights were violated under the color of law. You can read about the Federal Statute here:

www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/242

Anyway it appears that Dorian Johnson is co-operating with the Feds in their investigation - he's a witness to the tragedy - so that's why the DOJ has given him "Exceptional Clearance" on being an accomplice to the QT robbery. This clearance prohibits the Ferguson Police dept from ever charging Dorian Johnson in that specific crime. It is what it is.

scrapper2  posted on  2014-08-22   1:02:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: scrapper2 (#82) (Edited)

It is what it is.

What it actually IS is a coverup. A deal has already been struck up between Dorian and Police Dept including the U.S. DOJ. In other words he has agreed to not testify against the police for the unlawful shooting of his friend, Mike Brown, and in return the police and DOJ will not charge him with a crime. To sum it all up, nobody goes to jail!

purplerose  posted on  2014-08-22   1:07:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: purplerose (#83) (Edited)

hat it actually IS is a coverup. A deal has already been struck up between Dorian and Police Dept including the U.S. DOJ. In other words he has agreed to not testify against the police for the unlawful shooting of his friend, Mike Brown, and in return the police and DOJ will not charge him with a crime. To sum it all up, nobody goes to jail!

My guess is that the Ferguson Police Dept would love to charge Dorian Johnson ( who has a rap sheet, btw)and throw him in jail.

The exceptional clearance is from Eric Holder and the DOJ.

Eric Holder appears to have an agenda to charge Officer Wilson with something, anything for political and possibly even for personal reasons.

The Ferguson Police Dept does not share Eric Holder's agenda.

I don't see any way whatsoever that the Ferguson Police Dept would be party to the DOJ giving Dorian Johnson - a lying criminal weasel in their eyes - a get out of jail free pass.

Think about it. Dorian Johnson's testimony will be at odds with Officer Wilson's testimony.

scrapper2  posted on  2014-08-22   1:29:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: scrapper2 (#84)

Clearance has got nothing to do with the feds.

He's gonna get that from the local prosecutor.

Johnson's attorney offered up a "no comment" when asked if his client has been offered immunity, which leads me to believe that he has and that he's turning state's evidence.

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2014-08-22   8:12:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: randge (#85)

that he's turning state's evidence.

Very possible.

However it would be very dangerous for him.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-08-22   8:31:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Cynicom, randge, scrapper2, 4 (#86)

That the prosecution finds him an essential witness, who, btw, has a history of giving false statements, should make Wilson's defense salivate.

"Pants Up, Don’t Loot"

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-08-22   8:52:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Jethro Tull (#87) (Edited)

Didju know that MB is a highly accomplished rap artist?

Listen to Mike Brown’s VERY Explicit Rap Songs Featuring Drugs, Drinking and Murder

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2014-08-22   9:43:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: randge (#88)

The link won't work randge.

Does he do anything by Perry Como? Mario Lanza?

The phrase for the day is, "undocumented shoppers."

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-08-22   10:09:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Cynicom, randge, Jethro Tull (#86) (Edited)

However it would be very dangerous for him.

You betcha.

If Dorian lies to the state prosecutor and the GJ, that can have nasty consequences for him. That's a double whammy of giving a false statement to the police, which he's already done once before.

And this state prosecutor is the guy who Al Sharpton and Mike Brown's family and the state senator want removed from the GJ case, because they claim being the son of a police officer who was murdered by a Black perp when he was 12 years old makes him unsympathetic to Mike Brown's memory (and to Dorian). Also this prosecutor had wanted to be a police officer himself but he lost a leg to cancer when he was in his teens, so he was forced to go law school instead.

Randge - you are probably right that Dorian got the clearance from the state prosecutor - not the DOJ - because the state will go first presenting the case to the GJ.

Woo hoo! - pass the popcorn - this is going to be fun.

I think Dorian would have been much better off getting clearance from "his man, Eric" rather than the state prosecutor, because if he lied to the former, there'd probably be no consequences except for a fist pump and slap on the hand - but with the state prosecutor that's a different kettle of fish.

scrapper2  posted on  2014-08-22   10:21:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: randge (#85)

Clearance is immunity for sure and the state goes first presenting the case to the GJ before the DOJ, if it went that far.

But I doubt the state would give Dorian immunity from the consequences of lying under oath to the GJ or from giving a false statement to the state prosecutor.

I mean that would not make sense. The presumption is that Dorian is telling the truth, right, so he has nothing to fear...cough, cough...from the state prosecutor...

scrapper2  posted on  2014-08-22   10:30:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Jethro Tull (#89)

The link won't work randge.

Fixed an html typo.

Listen to Mike Brown’s VERY Explicit Rap Songs Featuring Drugs, Drinking and Murder

Does he do anything by Perry Como? Mario Lanza?

Nope. No Lanza. No Como. Jes' gutter squawk self-promo. You'll see and hear just where his head was at.

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2014-08-22   12:03:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: scrapper2 (#90)

Woo hoo! - pass the popcorn - this is going to be fun

Katy bar the door.

Have feeling this may get real ugly. We may not yet have seen the worst of it.

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2014-08-22   12:06:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: randge, All (#93)

We may not yet have seen the worst of it.

Or maybe we're about to see a lot of good coming from the Ferguson events.

The sheeple may be waking up - America isn't over just yet - see here:

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...i?ArtNum=169048&Disp=1#C1

scrapper2  posted on  2014-08-22   12:10:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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