Title: Israel is COMPLETELY illegitimate! - George Galloway speech - 9th August 2014 Source:
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This is the speech that led to the British police to investigate Galloway for Antisemitism.
Yes they are. Not the chosen people the media and most chuuurrrch's would have you believe.
Scripture is clear, every promise God made to the nation of Israel was fulfilled in Jeremiah.
Jeremiah also said God said something like our d i v o r c e becomes final today.
Jeremiah 3 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.
Scripture says to remarry an adulteress is just as bad as being one.
Matthew 5 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
Some jews follow Christ, many of them just like many in my nation profess to be "christian" (we are a "christian" nation right) really do. Few there be.
None of the speakers yet spoke the whole truth: the entire state of Israel is a completely illegitimate enterprise. It is founded on somebody else's land. — George Galloway, 9 August 2014
We know there isn't freedom of speech in the UK. Good luck George.
Hosea 3 Then said the Lord unto me, Go yet, love a woman beloved of her friend, yet an adulteress, according to the love of the Lord toward the children of Israel, who look to other gods, and love flagons of wine.
2 So I bought her to me for fifteen pieces of silver, and for an homer of barley, and an half homer of barley:
3 And I said unto her, Thou shalt abide for me many days; thou shalt not play the harlot, and thou shalt not be for another man: so will I also be for thee.
4 For the children of Israel shall abide many days without a king, and without a prince, and without a sacrifice, and without an image, and without an ephod, and without teraphim:
5 Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the Lord their God, and David their king; and shall fear the Lord and his goodness in the latter days.
The Book of Hosea relates the separation and reunification of Israel with their God. God instructs Hosea to marry a whore and have children whose names detail the condition of the relationship between God and Israel (and Judah).
That is not to say the current residents in the State of Israel are legit, they are not. The current illegitimate occupiers of the land named Israel/Palestine are Ashkenazi Jews that are actually gentile descendants of Khazarian converts to Judaism that NEVER resided in what we now call the State of Israel. They are trespassing imposters supported by the west.
The tribes of Israel have forgotten who they are (which God also predicted) but will remember at some point. (Lost tribes of Israel).
When God divided up the land each Tribe was allotted a certain portion. Today, the imposters are claiming to be descendants of the tribe of Judah (one tribe) and even if they were found to be the actual tribe of Judah they would only be entitled to Judah's portion.
There is not one iota of proof to support the occupation of that land by the current butchers. They are not Israelites or their descendants ... that's why they are called Israelis.
"This place called earth is hell (though it could be heaven).” Those that haven't noticed are without a soul to be redeemed.
Finklestein is spot on. We live in a secular world condition with respect to international law. Nowhere else has it been determined that a land claim based upon Bible verses is legitimate and should be accepted and supported by the international community.
I am a Bible student and am not denying the Biblical commentary but instead am simply calling attention to the most atheistic people on earth utilizing an unwitnessed claim made some 3500 years ago by an invisible God [that these atheists deny even exists] to a man and his descendants (of which most are known as the LOST TRIBES of ISRAEL) to mass murder and genocide a people that can prove their residence for at least 1100 years.
"This place called earth is hell (though it could be heaven).” Those that haven't noticed are without a soul to be redeemed.
Thank you, no1222. I've never seen any valid evidence of Jehovah so the claims are even more irrelevant to me. I have no issue with a strong people asserting themselves to seize land. My problem with Israel is that this was a weak people who tricked Britain and the United States into providing them with land and assisted in crushing their enemies numerous times. Without us they would be nothing, and for what?
There was nothing in this for the UK or the US. Nothing at all. It nets an unknown loss because of all the hate it reaps. Now we have even more trouble because of them.
As far as solutions agreeable to most, I find myself agreeing with Finkelstein: the matter is obscured by religious jargon and outlandish political contortions. The "unique case" for Jewish suffering is rotten to the core, and reeks of a feeble people who cannot change their ways to adapt to the world around them.
Kudos to Norman Finkelstein for his honesty, integrity, and courage. He is what he is, but he is a friend to the world. As he claims, agreeable solutions are there, if only his people would reach out and take them.
I have a theory that there exists a perpetual secret agreement that was made between Haym Solomon and George Washington when Solomon lent a large sum to Washington for his army. I think Solomon was a front man for the Rothschild banking family.
Just my theory.
"This place called earth is hell (though it could be heaven).” Those that haven't noticed are without a soul to be redeemed.
great theory. i have meditation time where that question rests in my spirit more like an answer. patriot-zios refer to him a lot.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
ironic that the lever of truth prolly is the mechanism perpetuating the enforcement of the original innocuous terms.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Lol, I didn't know you posted the whole chapter, kinda short huh We agree on alot and the things we disagree on has been a division in the body for a long time. Don't get me wrong, this is how I see it. Thats all. I tried to make it short, sorry
There is no contradiction that I can see. God for filled every promise and divorced Israel.
Matthew 5 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, True she was into fornication, but she was not married, hense never divorced : beloved of her friend,
(that friend, is God) John 15 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.
Hosea goes on with yet an adulteress, according to the love of the Lord toward the children of Israel
And, "So I bought her to me " 1 Corinthians 6 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. 1 Corinthians 7 Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.
John 15 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
and man she got commanded
" And I said unto her, Thou shalt abide for me many days; thou shalt not play the harlot, and thou shalt not be for another man: so will I also be for thee."
Unlike Hosea's whore, Israel proceeded to continue to break every rule. Pretty clear in the next chapter
Hosea 4 I will not punish your daughters when they commit whoredom, nor your spouses when they commit adultery: for themselves are separated with whores, and they sacrifice with harlots: therefore the people that doth not understand shall fall. For Israel slideth back as a backsliding heifer: now the Lord will feed them as a lamb in a large place.
Back to 3 " For the children of Israel shall abide many days without a king, and without a prince, and without a sacrifice, and without an image, and without an ephod, and without teraphim: Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the Lord their God, and David their king; and shall fear the Lord and his goodness in the latter days.
That says, " For the children of Israel " and everything after that statement is true of every believer in Christ. We have a king, true, but not physically right now. Do the jews today, that many call "Israel" today have a different king? Yes.
John 14 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Jesus said He that hateth me hateth my Father also. That nation makes no bones about hating Jesus and the NT. There is no "pre trib rapture, there is no "part" of His people having dinner watching another part get hammered.
Jews will be saved today and in the latter days just like anyone else is. Jacob was Israel, a person, not a nation. Believers through faith, as it was even in the OT. Even Jerusalem will be destroyed, a new jerusalam for a new Israel.
Hebrews 11, There all by faith, scripture is clear, the law cannot save . Being a jew or gentile matters not.
I think this whole teaching God is only working with the gentiles now and will deal with the jews later is giving those who say they are jews and are not a get out of jail free pass to do whatever they want, God's not working with you now, sooo
You see what Im saying
Scripture says Romans 11 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin I agree
The only thing that matters salvation wise in Pauls self description " the seed of Abraham " Galatians 3 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Next verse God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. I agree
Ephesians 1 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
Not just of jews,
Romans 9 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God. Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:
Thats not evidence that gazillions were killed by Hitler. And I know they seem to be everywhere.
But there are not that many jews on this planet, dead and alive.
"Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea a remnant shall be saved:"
so who is the remnant Revelation 5 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
Romans 11 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Who is Gods Israel ?
Not any nation on earth at this time, or in the future.
Belivers, by grace, through faith of the seed of Abraham in the Christ Jesus
As you say, and I agree, the majority of the people and those ruling calling themselves Gods chosen people along with calling the nation Israel is nothing but lies. Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
And unless they believe, there just as lost as the whore was before God hooked her up with Hosea.
Terry, thanks for your response. According to scripture God cannot lie. Often times folks read their own interpretation into scripture but ultimately there is truth. [EDIT: Not implying this applies to you or anything of the sort, just saying - ]
Here's an example that a guy pointed out to me. God made numerous promises to Abraham. The people calling themselves Jews have not fulfilled even one. If we were to look at the international index for the QUALITY OF LIFE the countries that have fulfilled the promises made to Abraham are Caucasion not Jewish. [ I'm not an identity Christian but I won't refuse the evidence]. I can't go to church because they have "Made merchandise of their congregation's soul" !
Not only that, the churches have sat on their fat 501(C)(3) asses while the occupying government of the USA has become the most hated nation on earth. That's because they've become STATE CHURCHES].
As long as people are willing to hear and love a lie, so called Christians will continue to support genocide while thinking of themselves as saviors.
In new testament scripture it is said that on the day of judgment Christ will say " depart from me for I never knew you" to people claiming to have healed the sick and cast out demons in His name. Now who do you suppose that might be ????
"This place called earth is hell (though it could be heaven).” Those that haven't noticed are without a soul to be redeemed.
" depart from me for I never knew you" to people claiming to have healed the sick and cast out demons in His name. Now who do you suppose that might be ????
Hey noone
Scary huh. He was not talking about the lost unbelieving world. The bible is written by believers for believers, He was talking about those who say they are "christians", but are not.
" Not only that, the churches have sat on their fat 501(C)(3) asses "
" As long as people are willing to hear and love a lie, so called Christians will continue to support genocide while thinking of themselves as saviors. "
" According to scripture God cannot lie."
Thanks, couldn't agree with you more.
Stay away from the pointy shed clubhouses.
And please, dont watch "christian" TV. Kenny copeland said hes a billionaire. Most of the crowd on TBN are millionaires. Yet they beg for more money everyday. (where in scripture does it say beg the world for their money).
No wonder the world thinks "christians" are religious nutcases Yet these people are wolfes, I hate to see them more then any atheist does. And what they teach, even I think their religion is false. There not christians.
King Agrippa, believest thou the prophets? I know that thou believest. Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian.
Ask one of them to send you a few dollars till payday, lol
Not for profit. Not for God either. Smiling joel olstein, rick warren, chuck smith and calvary chapel. Even "non denominational" is really a denomintion.
