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Title: Coverage for End-of-Life Talks Gaining Ground
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URL Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/31/h ... finally-overcome-politics.html
Published: Aug 31, 2014
Author: NY Times
Post Date: 2014-08-31 08:24:17 by Jethro Tull
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Views: 51
Comments: 4

DUNDEE, N.Y. — Five years after it exploded into a political conflagration over “death panels,” the issue of paying doctors to talk to patients about end-of-life care is making a comeback, and such sessions may be covered for the 50 million Americans on Medicare as early as next year.

Bypassing the political process, private insurers have begun reimbursing doctors for these “advance care planning” conversations as interest in them rises along with the number of aging Americans. People are living longer with illnesses, and many want more input into how they will spend their final days, including whether they want to die at home or in the hospital, and whether they want full-fledged life-sustaining treatment, just pain relief or something in between. Some states, including Colorado and Oregon, recently began covering the sessions for Medicaid patients.

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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

On this particular issue....people should have a plan in place, determine how and where they wish to die, make decisions about quality of life. If people do not do this for themselves, somebody else will do it for them. Why put that burden on others? Face death with dignity, go on your own terms I say....

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2014-08-31   15:25:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: abraxas (#1)

If people do not do this for themselves, somebody else will do it for them.

This is the slippery slope that concerns me.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-08-31   16:57:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#2)

This is the slippery slope that concerns me.

Yes, but all along somebody has been doing it for those who do not do it, usually at great expense, and the wishes of the patient who never spoke them be damned. Best to take responsibility for ourselves and make our wishes clear.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2014-09-02   11:17:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: abraxas (#3)

I concur regarding personal responsibility as it relates to end of life decisions, however, given a growing pool of indigent people, resources will become scarce. Rationing is inevitable and I see the heavy hand of government becoming the ultimate decider in regards to who will receive treatment and who will be kicked to the curb. As the proud owner of two stents in my left anterior descending artery, any future heart pbms for me could be a crap shoot both in terms basic survival and the availability of medical attention.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-09-02   12:59:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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