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Title: were you beaten in the tesicles with a tree branch in East Texas??
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URL Source: http://libertyfight.com/2014/adrian ... ng_kids_with_object_legal.html
Published: Sep 15, 2014
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Post Date: 2014-09-15 09:47:32 by Artisan
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Adrian Peterson Redux: Calif. Attorney General Pronounced that "Spanking Children With An Object Other Than The Hand is Not Unlawful"

Minnesota Vikings running-back Adrian Peterson turned himself in to police in Montgomery County, Texas, on Saturday and was released on $15,000 bond. Peterson reportedly beat his 4-year-old son with a tree branch after the child misbehaved.

. When questioned by police after the boy went back home to his mother in Minnesota, Peterson admitted he gave his son a "whooping" with a "switch." CBS reported "The beating allegedly resulted in numerous injuries to the child, including cuts and bruises to the child's back, buttocks, ankles, legs and scrotum, along with defensive wounds to the child's hands." After the initial incident, Peterson had texted his son's mother, noting "I got kinda good wit the tail end of the switch," that he "felt bad after the fact when I notice the switch was wrapping around hitting I (sic) thigh," and that he "Got him in nuts once I noticed. But I felt so bad, n I'm all tearing that butt up when needed!"

. Peterson's lawyer stated, in part, "Adrian is a loving father who used his judgment as a parent to discipline his son. He used the same kind of discipline with his child that he experienced as a child growing up in east Texas..."

Common opinion would likely maintain that it's illegal to spank a child with an object. However, that is not always the case. In 1997, California State Senator Ray Haynes filed an official query with the California Attorney General, asking "Is it unlawful for a parent to spank a child for disciplinary purposes with an object other than the hand?" The official response, filed July 21, 1997 by Attorney General Dan Lungren, was not what one might expect.. .


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#1. To: All (#0)

I 'm not necessarily against reasonable corporal punishment if the parent opts for it, but for petersons lawyer to try and dismiss/ justify BEATING A CHILD IN THE TESTICLES WITH A TREE BRANCH! Is literally criminal and psychotic.

The larger problem is cps, which is given way too much power by the state. Cps is rotten to the core & should be abolished. Bring back the old system of prosecutors with due process.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2014-09-15   9:58:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Artisan (#0)

I've two problems with Peterson's discipline: excessive force and striking on bare skin.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-09-15   11:27:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Artisan (#0)

What good comes from beating a child? What do they learn, other than fearing their parent?

Obnoxicated  posted on  2014-09-15   11:52:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Obnoxicated (#3)

I don't think any good comes from it., but I don't think that all spanking is abuse, either.

One of my sisters was very anti-spanking &never once hit her kid. He's a very well mannered bright teeenager now. She used other forms of discipline such as revoking privileges when needed.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2014-09-15   14:07:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Obnoxicated (#3)

What good comes from beating a child? What do they learn, other than fearing their parent?

They learn to hate their parent, after all they are criminals. They learn to not trust, and have difficulty forming a bond with others. They may learn to beat their own children or their own spouses unless they can stop the cycle of violence. They learn to kill the pain of being violated by using drugs and alcohol. They learn to be very angry, and have difficulty functioning in this society. They learn that it will destroy them and ruin their lives and the lives of those who claim to love them.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2014-09-15   14:10:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Artisan (#0)

CBS reported "The beating allegedly resulted in numerous injuries to the child, including cuts and bruises to the child's back, buttocks, ankles, legs and scrotum, along with defensive wounds to the child's hands." After the initial incident, Peterson had texted his son's mother, noting "I got kinda good wit the tail end of the switch," that he "felt bad after the fact when I notice the switch was wrapping around hitting I (sic) thigh," and that he "Got him in nuts once I noticed. But I felt so bad, n I'm all tearing that butt up when needed!"

Beating up on a 4 y.o. child using a switch leaving bruises and welts and wounding the child is indeed a criminal act. There are other non-violent means to discipline your child rather than the use of corporal punishment. If Peterson will do this act on a child, he will also do it to his wife as well (and many do this to their spouses as well).

purplerose  posted on  2014-09-15   16:26:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Artisan (#4)

I've never beat my kids. I've only swatted them on the butt, and I can count the number of times I've had to do that on one hand. Hell, their eyes would tear up if I raised my voice. My primary weapon of discipline was the dreaded lecture. Yes, I'd bore them to death. A good nagging never hurt anyone.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2014-09-15   17:32:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Obnoxicated (#7)

Yes, a few licks were always much, much more preferable to 'the lecture,' which droned on forever and ever.

Shut up and beat me.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-09-15   17:38:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Lod (#8)

Shut up and beat me.

LOL! My 3 brothers and I always got the bonus discipline--a lecture during the beating.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2014-09-15   17:45:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Obnoxicated (#9)

My 3 brothers and I always got the bonus discipline--a lecture during the beating.

Now that's child abuse.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-09-15   18:27:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Artisan (#0)

They are calling him Adrian Beaterson here. It's hilarious.

The guy is a doorknob just like the other guy who beat his wife.

"Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2014-09-15   18:52:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Artisan (#0)

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“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2014-09-15   19:28:51 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Artisan (#0)

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-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2014-09-15   19:30:38 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Artisan (#0)

As a rightist fundamentalist etc. etc. I'm supposed to favor or condone spanking when needed, but I do wonder whether there isn't normally a peaceful alternative. As a child I deserved punishment sometimes but must say we 3 kids were almost never physically punished and turned out fine.

You who are parents, please weigh in. Since there are no liberals here except trolls, it should be a perfect sample group, except of course for the lifelong loners like me that seem to make up a notable percentage of rightists, racialists etc.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2014-09-15   19:43:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: NeoconsNailed, Lod (#14)

My Dad 'tanned my hide' with a leather belt on more than one occasion.

I say, 'Spare the rod, spoil the child' still works with some children. I see too many kids who are in need of a severe butt-whoopin' because the parents have let them run around like wild, heathen savages for too long in their formative years.

But, firm parenting from the get-go can head off a lot of drama. Assigning extra chores to counter inappropriate behavior works, too.

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-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2014-09-15   23:52:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: purplerose (#6)

Beating up on a 4 y.o. child

One of the few times I agree with you, pr -

FOUR YEARS OLD!

a tiny 3 1/2 ft 40 lb child

hello!

what was 6 ft 1 217 lb football player Adrian Peterson thinking?

scrapper2  posted on  2014-09-16   4:33:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: X-15 (#15)

Thanks for the reply. I was indeed thinking of "tabula rasa" kids who haven't already been spoiled, so it seems you mostly agree with me. I've noticed that much of the time quiet, retiring people turn out quiet, well-behaved kids.

I'm now friends with a non-Southern couple who, while wonderful people themselves, have no notion whatever of enforcing rules on their 5-year-old. He was suddenly quiet and dejected the other day -- seems he's learning in kindergarten there are boundaries on behavior! I remember the pain of learning at that age that I wasn't the center of the the universe. Still can't get over it somehow :-]

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2014-09-19   0:32:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: NeoconsNailed (#17)

...their 5-year-old. He was suddenly quiet and dejected the other day -- seems he's learning in kindergarten there are boundaries on behavior!

You know that his teacher HATES his parents for what they HAVEN'T done as far as his lack of social behavior is concerned.

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-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2014-09-19   1:17:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: X-15 (#18)

No doubt! Education is under a quadruple whammy -- *Jews deliberately messing it up via the"new math", "new spelling" etc., reportedly basing a lot on how the child FEELS about the question on the paper. *Parents and grandparents deluded to the effect that schools are still like they were when they were kids. *Teaching colleges messing up teachers' heads with PC. *PARENTS WITH A "NOT MY CHILD" ATTITUDE!

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2014-09-22   19:58:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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