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Title: New York Police Declare Their Own Safety ‘Top Priority’
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URL Source: http://news.antiwar.com/2014/12/21/ ... their-own-safety-top-priority/
Published: Dec 22, 2014
Author: Jason Ditz
Post Date: 2014-12-22 04:58:57 by Ada
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Views: 457
Comments: 77

NYPD Turns on Mayor, Union Pushes Action Against 'Enemies' in City Hall

A Saturday incident in which a gunmen killed a pair of NYPD officers in Brooklyn has sent the department, the nation’s largest into a flurry of panic and outrage, and has police union leaders turning up the rhetoric on anybody and everybody the police don’t like.

The biggest target appears to be Mayor Bill de Blasio, who ran for office on a platform of ending police racial profiling, and was critical of police in recent slayings. Police are now blaming him for the “anti-police” sentiment that led to the weekend shootings.

Police made a point of publicly turning their backs on de Blasio during his statement over the shootings, and union leaders urged police to use “extreme discretion” in acting against enemies in City Hall.

The police seem to be moving away from the traditional city-run law enforcement branch and toward an independent, and heavily-armed, faction which feels it can unilaterally act, or refuse to act, as it sees fit.

To that end, police leaders are telling police that their top priority is “to ensure the safety of yourselves and your officers,” and that they should avoid making arrests “unless absolutely necessary.”

The detectives’ union is urging police to travel in threes, and to wear bulletproof vests at all times, while other police union leaders are talking up the idea that they are a “wartime” police department on a military footing.

The “enemy” in this war is clearly the public protesters critical of past police killings of unarmed civilians, and police demanded that all protests against them be halted for the time being.

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#1. To: Ada (#0) (Edited)

To that end, police leaders are telling police that their top priority is “to ensure the safety of yourselves and your officers,” and that they should avoid making arrests “unless absolutely necessary.”

WTF does that mean? What, now they're just going to continue executing people whenever they feel like it any morality be damned?

Here's a neat idea, how about not acting like a bunch of crybaby psychotic assholes thinking that the world is out to get you for a change.

For every one of these instances where the cops just happen to be right there are a hundred instances where they just feel like killing someone's dog and family in a "wrong-door-knock" or arbitrarily knocking over a cyclist or just shooting someone to death or beating and tazering them because their soft feelings got hurt and someone didn't comply with every word coming out of the douche bag's mouth.

It's a real shame the number of people I know personally that say that they warn their kids never to approach police. That really says it all.

Just a thought.

Katniss  posted on  2014-12-22   22:08:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Katniss (#1)

I have a more positive outlook if the police choose to avoid unnecessary arrests.

In NYC police are required to fill a quota of arrests which is why they go for the junk like arresting for selling loose cigarettes. Alas, sometimes these junk arrests turn deadly. If the police only arrest for real crime, they and we would be much better off.

Ada  posted on  2014-12-23   10:22:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Katniss (#1)

Whatever ones emotion or opinion, we have to remember, all of these people are hired by us, paid by us. None of them are rogue enforcers, all can be fired.

There is always some elected person or group in charge.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-12-23   10:29:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#0)

NYPD Turns on Mayor, Union Pushes Action Against 'Enemies' in City Hall

Love it! One step closer to the the inevitable social crack-up. I pray for the day NYC, and other socialist led mega-cities, are left for the anarchists, communists, and raging Negros.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-12-23   11:16:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Cynicom (#3)

I think a "die-in" is in order, Cyni. Care to join me in the middle of I-80? Perhaps the local mall?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-12-23   11:19:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Jethro Tull (#5)

Jethro...

NYPD is now 50,000 strong.

PC coddling has brought us to this precipice.

I have news for our black citizens. When the hammer falls, all will take a job, work, produce or be sent off to the gulag to die.

It will be, WORK OR DONT EAT. When the hammer falls it will be too late for all of us but blacks will have a rude awakening.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-12-23   12:36:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Cynicom (#6)

There are no jobs for the negro, or almost anyone else in this country.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-12-23   12:42:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Lod (#7)

There are no jobs for the negro, or almost anyone else in this country.

There were no jobs during the great depression, however, there was no robbing or stealing because we had nothing to eat.

We the poor, were despised, hated and barely tolerated. We did not shoot cops or anyone else because we felt we had rights, we had none.

We had no rights, none, nada.

The jails were never full, prisons were few and far between.

Sweat from your brow, bowing your back for 25 cents a day, stealing was never an option for an eight year olde kid. Dishonesty and stealing were sins.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-12-23   13:05:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#8)

All very true; but we were an agrarian country, largely self-sufficient, with no warehouses full of the poor and .gov dependent for their very existence.

My dirt poor grandparents told us about the hobos who would come to their door during the depression looking for work and/or a bite to eat.

Usually they found both, and if not work, then, something to eat and a prayer for better luck.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-12-23   13:16:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom (#6)

PC coddling has brought us to this precipice.

Indeed.

A quick analysis of Saturday's events in NYC show that a criminally insane ethnic minority, in defense of two minority criminal THUGS, assassinated two NYPD minorities, in what has become a major minority city whose mayor honeymooned in Cuba 20 years ago.

We've come a long way from the Miracle on 34th Street, and there's no turning back.

Let the anarchy begin!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-12-23   13:19:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jethro Tull (#10)

A quick analysis of Saturday's events in NYC show that a criminally insane ethnic minority, in defense of two minority criminal THUGS, assassinated two NYPD minorities, in what has become a major minority city whose mayor honeymooned in Cuba 20 years ago.

When they torch the city, and or head west looking for food, the racial war will be on.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-12-23   13:39:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Cynicom (#11)

When they torch the city, and or head west looking for food, the racial war will be on.

Yep.

Nothing to report here in the sticks except the sound of hunters.

Let them burn Filthydelphia, that's on the Christmas list of all the Whites I know.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-12-23   15:42:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Jethro Tull (#12)

I am tired of the endless hours of media preaching that whites do not understand the deep seated anger that abides in blacks that live in this country.

My sympathy well for such ran dry many years ago, in fact decades ago.

I and we are accused of "not understanding". That is the real reason we have a nation in racial strife. All my fault, if I were black, I would understand.

Damned tired.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-12-23   16:02:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Jethro Tull (#12)

Let them burn Filthydelphia, that's on the Christmas list of all the Whites I know.

LOL! And if they are in the mood to burn shit they can certainly torch NYC on their way out.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat

James Deffenbach  posted on  2014-12-23   18:19:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Jethro Tull (#12)

Nothing to report here in the sticks except the sound of hunters.

No better sound.

Smite the whitetails and eat well, my friends!

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-12-23   18:32:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Cynicom (#3)

I have a more positive outlook if the police choose to avoid unnecessary arrests.

In NYC police are required to fill a quota of arrests which is why they go for the junk like arresting for selling loose cigarettes. Alas, sometimes these junk arrests turn deadly. If the police only arrest for real crime, they and we would be much better off.

Agreed. But until that time, and as of now that looks as if it's never going to happen since this is all sponsored by the establishment and those that own/control it, it won't happen. So file under it's nice and fun to think about but never really going to happen, eh.

Whatever ones emotion or opinion, we have to remember, all of these people are hired by us, paid by us. None of them are rogue enforcers, all can be fired.

We also have to remember that except for in the most egregious cases that become of the highest profile, that there is no enforcement within the enforcement community and that few if any will ever be fired. About the worst that ever happens is that they get paid vacation, literally except for the verbage which reads "administrative leave," and that any settlements otherwise never come out of the pockets of the perps, at any level, themselves.

That's a lose-lose for everyone.

I'd say slowly, but the reality is that rapidly the ranks of LEOs are becoming like gang members that can do whatever they want almost whenever they want to, lie thru their teeth about it and get instant credibility in the media and in the courts because they're all cut from the same cloth, and rarely if ever have any consequences associated with their own illegal, unconstitutional, immoral, and anti-Christian behavior.

Katniss  posted on  2014-12-24   11:55:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Katniss (#16)

I have a general disdain for LEO as a whole unit, but do try to give individuals room to operate.

Five days a week, for a lifetime of putting your own life on the line, has to be a burden for all.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-12-25   7:54:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Cynicom (#17) (Edited)

Five days a week, for a lifetime of putting your own life on the line, has to be a burden for all.

With faulty premises it's easy to come to faulty conclusions.

That right there is an oft-stated untruth. In fact, LEO's have nowhere near the top in dangerous professions, yet, we don't even come close to giving those that do the same type of reverence and consideration in society.

The fact is that of the dangers that are there, many bring them on themselves and as a whole they produce more such situations than they succumb to otherwise.

Then there's the whole "Serpico" thing generally speaking, who set him up? Hint: It wasn't the "bad guys." Again, generally speaking since that's the hidden culture that's really responsible.

I see absolutely nothing dangerous or anyone putting their lives on the line with 20+ LEOs in armored riot gear and automatic weaponry including an armored vehicle storming a house owned by a middle-aged couple that aren't even armed, and a dog.

Nor do I see any danger in the same storming a house in the middle of the night with the element of surprise while conducting a "wrong door knock" which happens all too often. Even if it's the right house, there's still far less danger than there is in many other professions. Otherwise we'd be reading about far more cops being dead daily than the thousands, mostly relatively innocents, that they themselves kill throughout each year, an ever-growing number.

Also, if it were really that dangerous, then I don't think that so many would be clammoring to get into their ranks and many more would be leaving them.

Katniss  posted on  2014-12-27   12:08:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Katniss, 4 (#18)

10 deadliest jobs in ameriKa -

www.businessinsider.com/m...0-construction-laborers-1

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-12-27   12:20:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Katniss, 4 (#18)

Then there's the whole "Serpico" thing generally speaking, who set him up? Hint: It wasn't the "bad guys." Again, generally speaking since that's the hidden culture that's really responsible.

About Serpico, our career paths crossed and for him to claim he went into plainclothes in 1963 and didn't realize there was a monthly pad until 1967 is complete fiction. We all claim to understand the propaganda coming at us via the MSM, yet it's clear to me most don't (and I include myself here at times). Bottom line on Frank Serpico; he got shortchanged, became angry and then found religion. Anyone believing the Pacino Hollywood version has been duped.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-12-27   12:43:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Jethro Tull (#20)

So Frank found his monthly nut somewhat light?

Huh. Believable though.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-12-27   12:54:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Lod (#21)

So Frank found his monthly nut somewhat light?

Precisely right.

As I said, anyone police officer who chose to go into plainclothes in 1963 - an assignment that was purely voluntary - knew there was a monthly stipend.

Time to put the 'Saint Serpico' nonsense to bed.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-12-27   13:00:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Jethro Tull (#22)

Time to put the 'Saint Serpico' nonsense to bed.

So he really wasn't set up to be murdered. Who shot Frank Serpico?

“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele

“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb

“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm  posted on  2014-12-27   13:41:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Hmmmmm (#23)

So he really wasn't set up to be murdered. Who shot Frank Serpico?

He was shot during a routine 'buy & bust' narcotics arrest, and trust me, if they wanted him dead he'd be dead.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-12-27   14:18:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Jethro Tull (#24)

trust me, if they wanted him dead he'd be dead.

I heard that! So, who shot Frank Serpico?

“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele

“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb

“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm  posted on  2014-12-27   14:31:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: All (#24)

HERE

Incidentally, last Monday I spent almost an hour on hold (on a cell phone) waiting to talk to AJ live. He had mentioned Serpico in connection w/the police shootings in NYC a week ago. I got thru right away, told the call screener the purpose of my call - I wanted to discuss the Serpico information I had - and he said I'd be on shortly. That 'shortly' never came, and the screener apologized for my long wait two times. I bailed never having been given the opportunity to challenge the conventional thinking regarding Serpico. Serpico has been on Jones' show more than once (see above link) so I'm not sure if I got lost in the queue or perhaps AJ didn't want my voice heard.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-12-27   14:32:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Hmmmmm (#25)

A junkie dealer, later arrested.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-12-27   14:33:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Hmmmmm (#25)

news.google.com/newspaper...UDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3341,216236

Here you go!

Edgar Echevaria, A/K/A "Mambo" - male, Hispanic, 24-y/o (in 1971)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-12-27   14:43:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Jethro Tull (#28)

Curious nic for an Hispican.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-12-27   14:48:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Lod (#29)

Mambo sounds like the street name of the brand of heroin he was dealing.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-12-27   14:53:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Jethro Tull (#30)

Ah. The only nic that I know for heroin is horse, but, that's so dated...thanks for the update.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-12-27   15:01:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Lod (#29)

www.bluelight.org/vb/thre...titutions-and-Death/page4

Stamp name: MAMBO KING

Stamp Color: RED

Stamp Graphic (if any): THE WORDS MAMBO AND THE WORD KING IN A PICTURE OF A CROWN UNDER THE WORD MAMBO Color and Consistency/texture of Product: WHITE/SEMI FLAKY MORE POWDERY THAN FLAKY

Quality/neatness of stamp and packaging: VERY NEATLY PACKED, THEY TOOK THERE HARD ASS TIME WITH THESE

Quantity of Product (1-10 scale): 7/10 THESE WERE PRETTY AVERAGE SIZED BAGS AND WERE PRETTY PHAT, WAS VERY HAPPY WITH THE SIZE OF THEM

Quality of Product (1-10 scale):7.5/10 THESE ARE EXCELLENT BAGS AFTER USING 2 BAGS I WAS FEELING TERRIFIC THESE ARE SOME OF THE BEST I HAVE HAD IN THE PAST FEW DAYS, IF YOU HAPPEN TO COME ACROSS THESE SCOOP THEM UP WHILE THEY ARE OUT THERE. YOU WILL NOT BE DISSAPPOINTED

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-12-27   15:02:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Jethro Tull (#32)

What an amazing link!

Just like my gun-porn theads, a heroin-porn thread.

Thanks algore!

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-12-27   15:11:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Jethro Tull (#28)

Here you go!

Thank you, it's nice to be able to fill in the blanks sometimes.

“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele

“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb

“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm  posted on  2014-12-27   15:23:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Lod (#19)

Exactly!

LEOs nowhere in sight.

Let's face it, LEO fatalities or injuries even are not high. Nor, therefore, are the risks.

It's all 911 "hero" bullshit.

Katniss  posted on  2014-12-27   15:49:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Jethro Tull (#20)

About Serpico, our career paths crossed and for him to claim he went into plainclothes in 1963 and didn't realize there was a monthly pad until 1967 is complete fiction. We all claim to understand the propaganda coming at us via the MSM, yet it's clear to me most don't (and I include myself here at times). Bottom line on Frank Serpico; he got shortchanged, became angry and then found religion. Anyone believing the Pacino Hollywood version has been duped.

That's fine but the greater point still stands.

There's more than enough corruption and internal cover-up to go around and has been for decades.

Katniss  posted on  2014-12-27   15:59:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Katniss (#36)

That's fine but the greater point still stands.

Glad I could help you w/Serpico and yeah the entire system sux. Here's hoping the entire mess collapses and the Great Flush takes place. Save for a hand full of personal friends, and some here on 4um, most ppl are so damaged and/or back filled with the MSM narrative of the day they aren't worth a damn.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-12-27   16:10:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Jethro Tull (#37)

...back filled with the MSM narrative of the day...

Perfect - thanks.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-12-27   17:58:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Jethro Tull (#37)

Well, the mackerel-snappers are not rolling over this evening.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-12-27   18:20:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Lod (#39)

Well, the mackerel-snappers are not rolling over this evening.

That's funny :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-12-27   19:34:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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