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Title: Field McConnell - Boeing Uninterruptible Auto Pilot Used On 9/11 Planes, Impossible To Hijack!
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URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5NnBQJ5at4
Published: Jan 24, 2015
Author: staff
Post Date: 2015-01-24 14:13:06 by Horse
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#136. To: war (#126)

Nothing that you have stated as fact

By his sources they are.

Therein lies the problem.

I'm sure that despite the ever-growing preponderance of a consensus, he still believes that 7 fell from terrorist activity too.

Honestly, and we wonder why this stuff flies. Too many people simply want to believe it because it's politically expedient for them to do so.

Katniss  posted on  2015-04-02   13:08:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: FormerLurker (#130)

To descend and land, a plane must SLOW DOWN by reducing power. To lose altitude without reducing power, the ONLY way a plane can descend is by putting the nose down and DIVING.

Well...that's plain BS as well...a plane can be at full power and stall...lift is a function of wind flow and air pressure created above and below the wings...at take off, a 757 pilot would lower the *flaps* so that the wing is curved...thrust, i.e. the forward movement, creates air flow and since air is forced over the wing...air pressure builds UNDER the wing to a point where it *lifts* the plane...

AS for landing...a plane descends and lands by creating drag...usually by deploying its flaps...but to maintain a steady decent, a pilot must adjust the power UPWARD when he increases drag...it's why you hear the louder *WHINE* of the engines when a plane if landing...

Have someone explain basic aerodynamics to you...I learned them 40 years ago in 11th grade...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   13:10:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: Katniss (#135)

Probably consulting with the people in the next cubicle at State.

I can't understand how people such them can live with themselves or sleep at night.

Imagine coming home from work and having the wifey ask, "how was your day today honey", and responding, "oh it was great, I met my quota of posts and then some...".


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-02   13:14:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: Katniss (#136)

By his sources they are.

Huh? Assuming that even makes sense referring to a source as proof of *fact* is illogical...it's called *circular*...

I'm sure that despite the ever-growing preponderance of a consensus, he still believes that 7 fell from terrorist activity too.

Wha...huh? Preponderance of a consensus? Do you *listen* to yourself?

7 fell as a result of the damage it sustained form the collapsing North Tower...I know and regularly speak to people who were on scene from 9:30AM and on that morning...I also know people who were on scene not long after the first plane hit...sadly, I haven't been able to talk to them since...

Honestly, and we wonder why this stuff flies. Too many people simply want to believe it because it's politically expedient for them to do so.

If I let my politics be my guide here then GW Bush would have been one of the pilots...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   13:17:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: war (#126)

Here's a helpful hint...planes that are deliberately commandeered and do not reach their destination are hijacked. Saying that the planes on 9/11 were NOT hijacked when they fully fit the above definition - regardless of who did it and why - is pretty freakin' *dumb*...

Please point out any post I've made here where I've said the planes were NOT hijacked. Of course they were hijacked, the big question is by WHOM, and HOW.

We know they weren't hijacked by those claimed by the US government, since more than a few of them have publically appeared and stated they were obviously not the ones who hijacked those aircraft.

We also know that the cell phone calls were faked, since it was impossible for cell phone calls to be made from cruising altitude back in 2001.

So WHY were those calls faked, and WHO would have the ability to do such a thing?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-02   13:19:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: Katniss (#135)

You know, it's one thing to be ignorant, it's quite another to imply that someone is amiss, and then restate their exact point again while standing behind it, namely what you just refuted.

You have a HUGE problem with that.

He hasn't refuted anything.

One the other hand, everything that he has stated has been refuted...except for how long the fires in the South Tower burned...but he did that by accident...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   13:25:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: FormerLurker (#140)

So WHY were those calls faked, and WHO would have the ability to do such a thing?

Ahem.... who is it that has a budget of trillions per year, all the latest technology and the ability to buy or coerce almost anybody to do anything?

Cui bono? How much mileage did they get out of the that idiotically theatrical "Let's roll" crap?

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-04-02   13:26:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: FormerLurker (#140)

We know they weren't hijacked by those claimed by the US government...

You've offered no proof that anyone other than the 19 identified as hijackers,. regardless of what names they used, did not hijack those planes.

We also know that the cell phone calls were faked, since it was impossible for cell phone calls to be made from cruising altitude back in 2001.

You need to stop claiming *we know*...you've offered no proof of anything...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   13:37:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: war (#137) (Edited)

Well...that's plain BS as well...a plane can be at full power and stall...lift is a function of wind flow and air pressure created above and below the wings...at take off, a 757 pilot would lower the *flaps* so that the wing is curved...thrust, i.e. the forward movement, creates air flow and since air is forced over the wing...air pressure builds UNDER the wing to a point where it *lifts* the plane...

AS for landing...a plane descends and lands by creating drag...usually by deploying its flaps...but to maintain a steady decent, a pilot must adjust the power UPWARD when he increases drag...it's why you hear the louder *WHINE* of the engines when a plane if landing...

Total fail..

First off, lift is created by air flowing OVER the upper CURVED area of the wing, and since it needs to travel over more area than the flat lower surface, the air pressure is lower above the wing than below it, cause the wing to LIFT the plane.

As far as how a plane descends, in a controlled descent at least, power is REDUCED in order to reduce air speed, decreasing the air flow over the wing causing a reduction in lift.

Flaps are used to INCREASE lift, not reduce it. They are used at take-off to allow the plane to take-off at a lower speed than it would be travelling at altitude, and to safely land at a lower speed.

Flaps are NOT used to "slow the plane down by creating drag". And the pilot does NOT increase power at landing, he REVERSES the engine thrust AFTER landing in order to help reduce the speed of the aircraft in order to safely taxi to the terminal and not overshoot the runway.

Have someone explain basic aerodynamics to you...I learned them 40 years ago in 11th grade...

If I were you I'd sue the school you went to for a full refund.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-02   13:58:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: war (#143)

You've offered no proof that anyone other than the 19 identified as hijackers,. regardless of what names they used, did not hijack those planes.

You've offered no proof that there were ANY individuals sent by bin Laden to fly those aircraft into the WTC or the Pentagon.

Besides, the Pentagon attack as claimed by the media and the government is absolutely physically impossible.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-02   14:01:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: war (#141)

He hasn't refuted anything.

YOU have refuted known facts, and spewed nothing more than your "beliefs" based upon media lies.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-02   14:03:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: NeoconsNailed (#142)

Ahem.... who is it that has a budget of trillions per year, all the latest technology and the ability to buy or coerce almost anybody to do anything?

Cui bono? How much mileage did they get out of the that idiotically theatrical "Let's roll" crap?

To any rational and unbiased individual, that'd be an obvious thing.

Unfortunately, not everyone is rational or unbiased.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-02   14:08:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: FormerLurker (#146)

YOU have refuted known facts...

Um...facts cannot be refuted...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   14:09:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: FormerLurker (#145)

You've offered no proof that there were ANY individuals sent by bin Laden to fly those aircraft into the WTC or the Pentagon.

I have the words of Bin Laden himself...

www.foxnews.com/story/200...ms-responsibility-for- 11/

I also have the lack of any other plausible scenario...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   14:16:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: war (#148)

Um...facts cannot be refuted...

Um, you certainly have tried everything you could to do so.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-02   14:17:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: FormerLurker (#144)

First off, lift is created by air flowing OVER the upper CURVED area of the wing

You felt the need to repeat back to me what I told you as if I hadn't told you...exactly why?

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   14:17:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: war (#149)

I have the words of Bin Laden himself...

The REAL bin Laden denied involement in the attacks immediately after they occured.

There have been more than a few obviously FAKE bin Ladens since then.

From Bin Laden says he wasn't behind attacks - CNN

In a statement issued to the Arabic satellite channel Al Jazeera, based in Qatar, bin Laden said, "The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its enemies attack it.

"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal reasons," bin Laden's statement said.

From Bin-Ladin Denies Involvement in the 9/11 Attacks

The countries which do not agree to become the U.S. slaves are China, Iran, Libya, Cuba, Syria [Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Iraq, Sudan, Indonesia, Malaysia] and Russia. Whoever committed the act of 11 September are not the friends of the American people. I have already said that we are against the American system, not against its people, whereas in these attacks, the common American people have been killed. According to my information, the death toll is much higher than what the U.S. Government has stated. But the Bush Administration does not want the panic to spread. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; the people who are a part of the U.S. system, but are dissenting against it. Or those who are working for some other system; persons who want to make the present century as a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity so that their own civilization, nation, country, or ideology could survive. They can be anyone, from Russia to Israel and from India to Serbia. In the U.S. itself, there are dozens of well-organized and well-equipped groups, which are capable of causing a large-scale destruction. Then you cannot forget the American-Jews, who are annoyed with President Bush ever since the elections in Florida and want to avenge him.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-02   14:28:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: FormerLurker (#144)

As far as how a plane descends, in a controlled descent at least, power is REDUCED in order to reduce air speed, decreasing the air flow over the wing causing a reduction in lift.

I'll cut to the chase here because you obviously *think* you can simply rephrase what it is that you *think* you've read on Wikipedia...

Your first mistake is equating power and speed...they are two different things and are affected by whatever forces or configurations affect drag...

Secondly, there would have been no reason for a pilot, in flight, to reverse his engines but it does underscore your continued need to introduce strawmen in to the argument...

Thirdly. sit by the window the next time that you fly...as the pilot descends through 20 down to 10, you will see him/her begin to deploy flaps and as s/he begins his/her final approach, s/he will be at full flaps...pay attention to the engines as those flaps are deployed, you will hear them power UP to compensate for the increased drag caused by the flaps...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   14:35:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: FormerLurker (#152)

Oh...Bin Laden says that he didn't do it...

That seals it...he says he didn't do it...

Okay...

I'm convinced...

(snicker)

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   14:37:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: FormerLurker (#150)

Um, you certainly have tried everything you could to do so.

You haven't presented any other than for how long WTC2 fires burned...and that was by accident...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   14:38:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: war, All (#139)

7 fell as a result of the damage it sustained form the collapsing North Tower.

It's official, you're a complete fool. That's best case.

Katniss  posted on  2015-04-02   15:31:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: war (#155)

You haven't presented any other than for how long WTC2 fires burned...and that was by accident...

Hey tinker bell, I mentioned it at least several times over the past few days that the South Tower collapsed after burning for less than an hour.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-02   15:31:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: war (#154)

Oh...Bin Laden says that he didn't do it...

That seals it...he says he didn't do it...

Okay...

I'm convinced...

You were trying to "prove" he did it by posting some bogus material about him claiming credit, but when he TWICE denied he was involved, then what he says doesn't make a difference.

He's guilty simply because YOU say it, right?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-02   15:33:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: war (#141)

Right now you come across as a disingenuous pig.

Shittin' all over the place, etc.

I made a statement (116), you thought you challenged it when instead you merely, and apparently unwittingly (which is the laugh of the day so far for me) reinforced it thinking that you were contesting me (120), then in 133 I asked you a question based on that and you have ignored answering that question.

That pretty much says all that we need to know about you.

Either answer it or GTFO.

Katniss  posted on  2015-04-02   15:35:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: FormerLurker (#158)

Seriously, I doubt that this clown has an IQ of much better than 90 with the jibberish that he's spewing. My only question is whether or not he has a teleprompter telling him what to say.

Katniss  posted on  2015-04-02   15:36:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: war (#153)

Your first mistake is equating power and speed...they are two different things and are affected by whatever forces or configurations affect drag...

So in YOUR mind, a pilot increases engine power to SLOW DOWN, eh? LOL!!!!

Secondly, there would have been no reason for a pilot, in flight, to reverse his engines but it does underscore your continued need to introduce strawmen in to the argument...

It's apparent your grasp of the English language is sub-standard, even for a government shill. I said they use thrust reversal after LANDING.

Thirdly. sit by the window the next time that you fly...as the pilot descends through 20 down to 10, you will see him/her begin to deploy flaps and as s/he begins his/her final approach, s/he will be at full flaps...pay attention to the engines as those flaps are deployed, you will hear them power UP to compensate for the increased drag caused by the flaps...

Hey genius, if they did in fact "power up" the air speed would increase and the flaps would rip off.

It's obvious you've never flown a real (or virtual) aircraft, ever.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-02   15:45:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: Katniss (#160)

Most likely is fed "talking points" via IM or something.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-02   15:46:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: FormerLurker (#162)

I just think he's your typical American, has a political agenda and will accept anything that doesn't step on it, combined with not being among the brighter ones in the populace.

Hey, someone's gotta be in that 50% below average intelligence.

I guess I get pissed off and start suspecting either idiocy or subterfuge when people don't answer direct questions, particularly when they initiate the topic, and in his case, completely misunderstood my point, then made it thinking he was slamming me but foolishly reinforced it, but now is running from it like a frightened little girl. I have zero respect for people like that. That's how cops behave. They do their damage and then hide behind the apron strings of societie's corrupt system/establishment, rarely stepping up and telling the truth about their own deeds.

Hell, who knows, maybe war's a cop. He certainly fits the profile.

Katniss  posted on  2015-04-02   15:54:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: Katniss (#163)

Hell, who knows, maybe war's a cop. He certainly fits the profile.

Maybe, as he certainly falls into their low IQ hiring standard.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-02   16:05:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: FormerLurker (#161)

So in YOUR mind, a pilot increases engine power to SLOW DOWN, eh? LOL!!!!

I have absolutely no idea how you could have *concluded* that based upon what was written by me.

Congrats...you've finally *stumped* me.

It's apparent your grasp of the English language is sub-standard, even for a government shill. I said they use thrust reversal after LANDING.

I know what you *said*. My response was that this was irrelevant information...you could have also typed "and when they arrive at the gate and the equipment comes to a complete stop and the captain double dings the flight attendant opens the cabin door.." which, of course, is correct but has nothing to do with the topic of FLYING...

Hey genius, if they did in fact "power up" the air speed would increase and the flaps would rip off.

You're out of your mind...again you are confusing POWER with speed...or maybe you're just fully confused...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   16:12:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: FormerLurker (#162) (Edited)

Most likely is fed "talking points" via IM or something.

Yep ...in fact...as you are typing them in I am reading them and I am already formulating my response...

Thanks, NSA!

Oops...you misspelled *9/11* there, schmackle...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   16:15:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: Katniss (#163)

I just think

It's not the *thinking* that you *just* do...as minimal as it is...it's what you do with it afterward that's the issue...

Hey, someone's gotta be in that 50% below average intelligence.

Um...don't look now but...

I guess I get pissed off and start suspecting either idiocy or subterfuge when people don't answer direct questions, particularly when they initiate the topic, and in his case, completely misunderstood my point, then made it thinking he was slamming me but foolishly reinforced it, but now is running from it like a frightened little girl. I

Whoa...take a breath there, Oswald...then use the EDIT feature that 4um so graciously provides...

Hell, who knows, maybe war's a cop. He certainly fits the profile.

Yea...me and Tull...bosom buddies...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   16:18:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: FormerLurker (#162)

Most likely is fed "talking points" via IM or something.

This site is lucky if it gets 50 different views a day beyond a random web hit...you're an anonymous clown who has absolutely no clue about what it is that you purport to *talk* about...but, yea...government time, resources and money are being spent to discredit you...

PS: Add in *megalomaniacally paranoid* to that description...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   16:21:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: FormerLurker (#158)

He's guilty simply because YOU say it, right?

He's innocent simply because he said it, right?

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   16:25:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: war (#169)

He's innocent simply because he said it, right?

As I said, YOU tried to paint him as confessing to being involved in the attacks, where he had actually said he was NOT involved.

So that shows how you like to toss out propaganda as if it's fact.

And what it comes down to is that there is NO evidence that bin Laden was involved one bit whatsoever.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-02   16:48:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: war (#168)

This site is lucky if it gets 50 different views a day beyond a random web hit

I guess you don't keep track of the view count at the top of the thread, eh?

Right now it's at 791.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-02   16:50:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: war (#165)

So in YOUR universe, it is quite easy to fly a 757 at 500 mph with your engines 3 feet off the ground, after dropping from a higher altitude seconds earlier, without diving nose first into the ground, eh?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-02   16:54:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: Katniss (#131)

Well, let's see, unless it came in at the exact same angle, which would have meant that the engines would have at least divoted the lawn, the angle of descent (if it was a plane) was different than the much more closer to horizontal angle of the holes in the walls.

You're assuming that the only damage to the Pentagon walls were made by the pane and not from collapse or fire...

That's a faulty assumption...

https://youtu.be/Vknf19mfwkw

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   16:56:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: FormerLurker (#172)

So in YOUR universe, it is quite easy to fly a 757 at 500 mph with your engines 3 feet off the ground, after dropping from a higher altitude seconds earlier, without diving nose first into the ground, eh?

We just had a guy crash an A320 in to a mountain side @ cruising speed in a controlled descent...he had 600 hours...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   16:58:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: FormerLurker (#134)

So, once again, you have been lied to by the media, are you surprised?

You're hilarious...you quote the FEMA report when it's convenient and then try to refute it when it is not...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   16:59:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: FormerLurker (#171)

I guess you don't keep track of the view count at the top of the thread, eh?

Right now it's at 791.

It's been up for 2 and a half months...25 views a day...

WOW...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   17:00:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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