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Title: Field McConnell - Boeing Uninterruptible Auto Pilot Used On 9/11 Planes, Impossible To Hijack!
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URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5NnBQJ5at4
Published: Jan 24, 2015
Author: staff
Post Date: 2015-01-24 14:13:06 by Horse
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#363. To: war, GreyLmist (#354)
I finally got FL to *admit* to the truth that the collapse started sooner...it's time for you as well...

Your definition of "collapse" differs from what the video shows. A roof collapse inwards isn't what most people think of when they say "total collapse".
The TOTAL COLLAPSE of WTC7, where ALL sections of the building began a descent into its own footprint, at or near free fall speed, is what I mean by TOTAL COLLAPSE.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
FormerLurker posted on 2015-04-09 10:35:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#364. To: war, GreyLmist (#359)
NIST starts the clock when the penthouse collapses which is what my video shows and yours does not...your video LIES about when NIST starts the clock too...

So if I wiggle my fingers before I drop a ball to measure the time it takes for the ball to drop, would you include the finger wiggling time in the total descent time?
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
FormerLurker posted on 2015-04-09 10:36:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#365. To: FormerLurker (#363)
A roof collapse inwards isn't what most people think of when they say "total collapse".

The roof collapsed because of what happened 30odd floors below it...
--Are you a *Jew*?
war posted on 2015-04-09 10:36:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#366. To: FormerLurker (#364)
So if I wiggle my fingers before I drop a ball to measure the time it takes for the ball to drop, would you include the finger wiggling time in the total descent time?

If I respond with an equally ridiculous and spurious post will you respond that I'm claiming something *different* now?
--Are you a *Jew*?
war posted on 2015-04-09 10:38:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#367. To: war (#355)
Can you provide any video which shows an *instantaneous* destruction? I have been unable to find any...each and every one reveals a building collapse in sequence from top to bottom...

To clarify, the words "the supporting structure is instantaneously destroyed across all quadrants ", I mean ALL SUPPORT ACROSS ALL WEIGHT BEARING ELEMENTS OF THE LOWER STRUCTURE IS INSTANTANEOUSLY LOST".
Do capital letters help you out?
Can you not understand what it means to lose ALL support from the lower structure?
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
FormerLurker posted on 2015-04-09 10:39:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#368. To: war (#366)
In other words war, you can't include time PRIOR to the BUILDING DESCENDING, as it is the BUILDING DESCENT WHICH IS BEING MEASURED IN TERMS OF DESCENT TIME.
Capish?
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
FormerLurker posted on 2015-04-09 10:41:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#369. To: FormerLurker (#367)
Do capital letters help you out?

No...the volume of my laughter is the same.
True or False:
A controlled demolition relies upon gravity?
--Are you a *Jew*?
war posted on 2015-04-09 10:45:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#370. To: FormerLurker (#368)
In other words war, you can't include time PRIOR to the BUILDING DESCENDING

The building was descending at that point...the penthouse most certainly did not collapse in any other direction...as the weight load shifted from the failure of the columns to other columns which failed the main collapse began...
Quick again make the ridiculous argument that gravity doesn't affect all falling things equally and that only a controlled demolition makes gravity work...
--Are you a *Jew*?
war posted on 2015-04-09 10:49:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#371. To: war (#369)
A controlled demolition relies upon gravity?

Sure, but it also relies upon explosives. Does that help?
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
FormerLurker posted on 2015-04-09 10:50:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#372. To: war (#370) (Edited)
The building was descending at that point...

PART of the ROOF fell INTO the building, but the 4 CORNERS of the TOP of the BUILDING didn't budge, nor did the outer 4 WALLS (unless you include the bulging outwards due to the apparent explosives).
As far as rate of descent of the BUILDING itself (which includes all FOUR CORNERS OF THE TOP AND THE FOUR OUTER WALLS), that HAS to be measured from the point in time the ENTIRE STRUCTURE BEGINS ITS DESCENT.
Did you ever graduate Jr. High?
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
FormerLurker posted on 2015-04-09 10:53:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#373. To: FormerLurker (#372) (Edited)
PART of the ROOF fell INTO the building, but the 4 CORNER of the TOP of the BUILDING didn't budge, nor did the outer 4 WALLS (unless you include the bulging outwards due to the apparent explosives).

Please use the edit feature so that mess of a question makes some sense *above* the no sense that it makes now.
Thanks.
--Are you a *Jew*?
war posted on 2015-04-09 11:02:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#374. To: FormerLurker (#371)
Sure, but it also relies upon explosives. Does that help?

And those explosives do what?
--Are you a *Jew*?
war posted on 2015-04-09 11:03:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#375. To: war (#373)
Wasn't a question genius.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
FormerLurker posted on 2015-04-09 11:14:37 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#376. To: FormerLurker (#372)
As far as rate of descent of the BUILDING itself (which includes all FOUR CORNERS OF THE TOP AND THE FOUR OUTER WALLS), that HAS to be measured from the point in time the ENTIRE STRUCTURE BEGINS ITS DESCENT.

A collapse goes in what direction? Up?
The fact is, the collapse went in stages...it was not all at once...that is the fatal blow to your CD nonsense...the roof collapsed because of column failure and not because of explosives so powerful ye able to be unseen were detonated...your claim also is that the main collapse was the result of a controlled demolition...
When has a controlled demolition ever been done in two stages starting with the only the top corner of a building?
Ooopsie...that logic mixed with a healthy dose of reality rears its ugly head yet again...
--Are you a *Jew*?
war posted on 2015-04-09 11:16:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#377. To: war (#374)
And those explosives do what?

Blow things up.
That, and cause a TOTAL failure of SUPPORT causing the structure to COLLAPSE into its own footprint in most cases, unless for whatever reason it's desired to topple the structure, as in smokestack demolitions for instance.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
FormerLurker posted on 2015-04-09 11:18:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#378. To: FormerLurker (#375)
Wasn't a question genius.

Who could tell is the point...
--Are you a *Jew*?
war posted on 2015-04-09 11:19:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#379. To: FormerLurker (#377)
Blow things up.

What *things*...(please limit your answer to the materials used in building construction)?
--Are you a *Jew*?
war posted on 2015-04-09 11:20:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#380. To: war (#376)
So to you, descent time begins when ANY ONE thing falls, such as a window or chimney.
So if the chimney fell 10 minutes before the ENTIRE BUILDING collapsed, you'd add ten minutes to the descent time, eh?
Of course YOU would, if it suited your agenda.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
FormerLurker posted on 2015-04-09 11:20:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#381. To: war (#379)
Don't have time today to play your childish games. Why don't you go haunt Stone's site for some fun, you might actually find people who agree with you there.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
FormerLurker posted on 2015-04-09 11:21:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#382. To: FormerLurker (#380)
So to you, descent time begins when ANY ONE thing falls, such as a window or chimney.

The collapse of the Penthouse is the beginning of the end for that building and you can see a visible pinch near the east side of the roof after the penthouse goes.
I'm still waiting for you to explain to *us* why column failure caused only by controlled demolition is the only means by which gravity affects the fall of a building.
--Are you a *Jew*?
war posted on 2015-04-09 11:26:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#383. To: FormerLurker (#381)
Don't have time today to play your childish games.

You obviously used your *engineering* skills and figured out where that was going.
Why is it that in your little bizarro world that only explosives can cause columns to fail?
--Are you a *Jew*?
war posted on 2015-04-09 11:27:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#384. To: FormerLurker (#381)
Why don't you go haunt Stone's site for some fun...

...actually me posting here is me having fun at Pebblie Poo's expense...
--Are you a *Jew*?
war posted on 2015-04-09 11:29:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#385. To: war, FormerLurker (#356) (Edited)
Sorry...you don't get to define how I rebut your nonsense which appears to be that all of the paper in WTC should have spontaneously combusted even though anyone can see that a) the building was not solely made or nor did it solely contain, paper b) the area of the fires was at the impact zone...

Since b), localizing the diminishing fires to impact zone, is the only part there that doesn't sound thoroughly like you're not a serious debater or even reader -- just here mainly to fill the place voluminously with your rumbling disagreeableness -- I'll be redirecting my inquiry (from way back at #189) about the compacter WTC 7 steel heat-durability in comparison to steel in the Towers to FormerLurker, not you henceforth (allegedly a "corner-officer" of the former US Steel Building by the WTC). Also, I'm gonna have to conclude by now that you won't be providing any info, even if you could, about "pre-planned demolition docs that likely had to be submitted for all 3 of the highest WTC buildings before any of them were approved to be built", as requested way back at #213.
Edited sentence 1.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2015-04-09 11:32:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#386. To: GreyLmist (#385)
Please don't have a *snit* fit because I prefer whiting to your red herrings...
--Are you a *Jew*?
war posted on 2015-04-09 11:34:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#387. To: Neo TryingtoWarnYou (#361)
Thanks for the link, Neo.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2015-04-09 11:37:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#388. To: GreyLmist (#385) (Edited)
not you henceforth (allegedly a "corner-officer" of the former US Steel building by the WTC

Come to NY...I'll show you around...and I didn't have an *office*...I sat on a trading desk about 15 feet long across the North Side of the floor in the NW corner...I had 2 others to my left and 4 across from me beginning directly to my left...Century 21 was at my back and the WTC complex to my right...I had Brooks Brothers on the first floor and Starbucks in the Lobby...by the time I was in the building (late 1998 until early 2002 with a three month pause in late 2001)...it was the *former* Merrill Lynch Building...
--Are you a *Jew*?
war posted on 2015-04-09 11:44:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#389. To: FormerLurker (#380)
So if the chimney fell 10 minutes before the ENTIRE BUILDING collapsed, you'd add ten minutes to the descent time, eh?

Nope.
But it still wouldn't stop you from trying to make that a *silly* point...
--Are you a *Jew*?
war posted on 2015-04-09 11:49:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#390. To: war, FormerLurker (#388) (Edited)
Come to NY...I'll show you around...and I didn't have an *office*...I sat on a trading desk about 15 feet long across the North Side of the floor in the NW corner...I had 2 others to my left and 4 across from me beginning directly to my left...Century 21 was at my back and the WTC complex to my right...I had Brooks Brothers on the first floor and Starbucks in the Lobby...by the time I was in the building (late 1998 until early 2002 with a three month pause in late 2001)...it was the *former* Merrill Lynch Building...

I'd like to visit but, as I said earlier, I'm a peasant and that's too far for me to walk from here. Btw, WTC 7 having been an Emergency Management Center, I'm not convinced the topmost section of that building did collapse in the sense of structural failure. Can't be sure there weren't some mechanisms in place to lower it down in time of war or something.
Edited sentence 2.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2015-04-09 12:21:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#391. To: GreyLmist (#390)
I'd like to visit but, as I said earlier, I'm a peasant and that's too far for me to walk from here...

Fung Wa Bus...
--Are you a *Jew*?
war posted on 2015-04-09 12:50:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#392. To: war (#391) (Edited)
Fung Wa Bus

reason.com | Dec. 16, 2014: "Fung Wah, the iconic Chinatown bus company that became famous for charging just $10 to travel between Boston and New York City, will reopen early next year."
Sounds reasonable but I'm a person who actually had to walk miles to get home from work once because I didn't have a nickle for a bus transfer. Wouldn't want to have to walk home from New York in a pinch. It's getting to be the rainy season.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2015-04-09 14:08:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#393. To: GreyLmist (#392)
Ha...
Son takes it from time to time from Boston...
--Are you a *Jew*?
war posted on 2015-04-09 14:15:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#394. To: All (#241) (Edited)
4um Title: NIST FOIA: William Cirone, Clips 01-49 (WTC Complex & WTC7 after 10:28am)

Excerpts:
13 minute video. Turn volume down at 10:20-10:46 -- loud buzzing noise.
... firehoses in use throughout the day at the complex (and as late as a camera recorded timestamp of 4:06:19 PM, when water appears to be wasted) but never aimed at WTC 7; like the firemen were unaware that it was burning at all ... examples at these video timestamps:
7:09-7:46 ... 8:07-9:35 ... 10:52-11:11 ... 11:40-11:50 ... 12:21- 12:42

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2015-04-09 19:37:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#395. To: war (#393)
Son takes it from time to time from Boston...

I went to Harvard there, really...for a few minute walkabout. :)
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2015-04-09 19:46:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#396. To: GreyLmist (#395)
Very nice area for a walkabout...
Boston is a great city...
--Are you a *Jew*?
war posted on 2015-04-10 7:21:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#397. To: GreyLmist (#394)
firehoses in use throughout the day at the complex (and as late as a camera recorded timestamp of 4:06:19 PM, when water appears to be wasted) but never aimed at WTC 7; like the firemen were unaware that it was burning at all ... examples at these video timestamps:

They had stopped fighting the fires a couple of hours earlier...given all that was going on around them, I doubt if neatness counted...
--Are you a *Jew*?
war posted on 2015-04-10 7:26:27 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#398. To: Lod (#1)
bump for later view
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2016-08-03 22:59:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#399. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#398)
Epic bump.... its something i tried.to get across.to folks... the.hard ware. The software. The failsafes and.the physics... hijaking those.planes to.fly in those altitudes at those speeds to preform those manuvers is impossible in the literal sense of impossibility. Nothong but conteoled demolitions and cgi tvee propaganda..
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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.
titorite posted on 2016-08-03 23:13:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#400. To: GreyLmist (#394)
You're missed .
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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.
titorite posted on 2016-08-03 23:17:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#401. To: titorite (#400)
Is this an all--time record number of page views -- 1,860?
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“We build but to tear down. Most of our work and resource is squandered. Our onward march is marked by devastation. Everywhere there is an appalling loss of time, effort and life. A cheerless view, but true.” - Tesla per FP
NeoconsNailed posted on 2016-08-04 0:28:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#402. To: NeoconsNailed (#401)
No, the hide away belt clip handcuff key broke fredom4um like a ddos attack. That thread set the record.,,, and crashed the site. Gov bots most likely i think
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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.
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