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Title: Nightwish - Sleeping Sun
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Published: Jan 25, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-01-25 21:29:21 by Katniss
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#1. To: Katniss (#0)
What does it mean to you?

Deasy posted on 2015-01-25 23:09:05 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#2. To: Deasy (#1) (Edited)
A cool song.
An absolutely brilliant voice!

Katniss posted on 2015-01-26 9:20:04 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#3. To: Katniss (#2)
Nice to see another Nightwish fan on the forum. What do you think of their latest vocalist, Floor Jansen?

FormerLurker posted on 2015-01-26 11:36:54 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#4. To: FormerLurker (#3)
She's cool. Annette was horrible. I like Floor. She moves better in the act although if I had to choose one I'd take Tarja who's doing great with her own band.

Katniss posted on 2015-01-26 23:21:25 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#7. To: Katniss (#4)
She's cool. Annette was horrible. I like Floor. She moves better in the act although if I had to choose one I'd take Tarja who's doing great with her own band.

My thoughts exactly. However, Tarja's band is nowhere near as good as Nightwish; she sounded MUCH better when she was with them, as they synced together beautifully, it was a one of kind sort of thing. Floor DOES fit in with them well, but not quite like Tarja did.
I oftentimes thought they picked Anette as Tarja's replacement just to piss off Tarja, trying to show they could even throw a karaoke singer on stage to take her place. It obviously didn't turn out so good and they were pitiful for a period of time.
Thank God they decided to can her and replace her with Floor. Now they pretty much sound like an epic band again, different than before, but still epic.

FormerLurker posted on 2015-01-27 14:58:44 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#8. To: FormerLurker (#7)
I oftentimes thought they picked Anette as Tarja's replacement just to piss off Tarja, trying to show they could even throw a karaoke singer on stage to take her place. It obviously didn't turn out so good and they were pitiful for a period of time.

LOL
Yeah, same impression I got. Seems like the split was over money. The sides differ. I agree with what you said about Tarja being better with them and them with her, who knows what really happened.
Tarja's stuff is a little different now, but I think she enjoyed the challenge of doing it. Same genre.

Katniss posted on 2015-01-27 15:24:13 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#9. To: Katniss (#8)
Seems like the split was over money.

That's what the band and their management want people to think. Toumas was infatuated with Tarja, and after she married someone else, was really messed up in the head.
Have you ever read her husband's letter to the fans after her dismissal from the band?

FormerLurker posted on 2015-01-27 17:27:12 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#11. To: FormerLurker (#9)
Is this it?
Letter

Katniss posted on 2015-01-27 21:10:47 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#12. To: Katniss (#11)
Is this it?

Nope, that's the band's "open" smear letter that they handed Tarja after they walked off stage at arguably their best concert ever at Hartwall Arena, which was filmed and produced into their "End of an Era" DVD.
She went from tears of joy to tears of sorrow in a matter of seconds. They were bastards to do that to her, it was a cowardly and unprofessional thing to do to a founding member who was a huge factor in their success.
That's not even mentioning that the content of the letter was nothing but huge misrepresentations and outright lies, if you dig into the history of the band. Even IF any part of those accusations they hurled at her were true, most bands keep that information to themselves and don't attempt to publically humiliate the former band member and proceed to ruin their careers.
Here's a link to Tarja's husband's response to questions posed to him about the situation that contradict what the band had to say about Tarja. Much of what is stated IS verifiable, if one is truly interested and has the time to dig.
Answers to fan's questions
It's a huge drama show as to what happened. The band certainly didn't act like grown men and were quite cowardly to do what they did. They could have just met with her a week or so after their last concert and tell her face to face, and then just say she left due to personal and professional differences.

FormerLurker posted on 2015-01-27 21:29:33 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
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#13. To: FormerLurker (#12)
Sounds like Annette got screwed too.
Annette's Account
The picture being formed here is that Tuomas has an enormous ego and seemingly controls, or at least guides, what the other bandmembers seem to think. This is hardly unheard of for the brains behind a music group and makes sense whether its true or not. It has ruined many a band.
It's also a red flag that Tuomas went into some kind of manic depression that prevented him from behaving normally while Tarja merely went thru normal phases of grieving.
Marcelo comes across as a very professional person.

Katniss posted on 2015-01-28 13:25:07 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
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