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Title: US still considering military option against Russia: Analyst
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Published: Jan 25, 2015
Author: Joaquin Flores
Post Date: 2015-01-25 23:46:40 by Tatarewicz
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Comments: 19

PressTV...

The United States is still considering the military option against Russia over Ukraine, according to an analyst in Belgrade, Serbia.

Joaquin Flores, geostrategist and director at Center for Syncretic Studies, made the remarks in a phone interview with Press TV on Sunday while commenting on US President Barack Obama’s claim that Washington is not seeking a military confrontation with Russia over the Ukraine crisis.

“I’ve been very clear that it would not be effective to engage in a military conflict with Russia on this issue,” Obama said during his visit to India on Sunday.

Flores said, “At first this might sound like a positive development.”

But “it must be understood in context,” he added. “Peeling back the layers of doublespeak and hypocrisy, we find that since the coup that the US launched in Ukraine about a year ago, it has been the US that has spearheaded the present military conflict there today.”

“It has been the US that has been funding and supporting the various extremist elements…in Ukraine,” he added.

Last year, US Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland disclosed that Washington has “invested” about $5 billion in “promoting democracy” in Ukraine over the past two decades.

In February 2014, Nuland visited Ukraine and held meetings with anti-Kremlin politicians who organized anti-government protests that led to the ouster of Viktor Yanukovych, the country’s democratically-elected president.

“It has been not only the $5 billion at the start of this, publically admitted by US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland, but much much more.” Flores said.

He added that the so-called nonprofit US organizations, such as the US Agency for International Development (USAID), the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) and private NGOs are using color-revolution tactics in Ukraine.

“From all of this we can see that the military option is not only off the table, it is an option, and not the last the option, but for the US often the first option,” he stated.

The US and its allies accuse Moscow of sending troops into eastern Ukraine in support of the pro-Russian forces. Moscow has long denied involvement in Ukraine's crisis.

The Kremlin has described Washington’s foreign policy on Ukraine as “aggressive” which “fails to meet present-day realities and demonstrates that the United States actually wants to dominate the world.”

According to the commander of United States Army Europe, the US military plans to send troops to Ukraine this spring to train four companies in the Ukrainian National Guard.

The US has already earmarked $19 million to help build the Ukrainian National Guard. Lt. Gen Frederick Ben Hodges led a US command delegation to Kiev on Wednesday to begin evaluating the situation in Ukraine’s restive south-eastern regions.

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#1. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

The United States is still considering the military option against Russia over Ukraine,

Nonsense...

It is called "contingency" planning.

We have a contingency plan on file in case Canada invades.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-01-26   6:15:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Cynicom (#1)

We have a contingency plan on file in case Canada invades.

That should be a one-pager.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-01-26   7:37:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#2) (Edited)

a comment from a newsletter -

I’m 80 years old. At 18 I was ‘in the Korea conflict (1953) At early and late thirties I was in Vietnam (third infantry and 1st Infantry Division. Was in the military for 24 years. Not once in all these years I can recall not thanking God for our country and our safety. Whether we were right or wrong about the position we were in. we did our duty as required . All the time praying to GOD we were doing the right thing.

Beyond our control we were placed in situations were we had to do actions that went completely against what we believed. All the time asking GOD for guidance and forgiveness for doing what we had to do. Throughout most of my life I have never felt the shame. bitterness, disgust that I have come to feel these last few years of my life. Not of my country or its people, but of our so called leaders and representatives for the waste of young lives and faith that some of us had.

I never thought the day would arrive when I would state from the bottom of my heart and soul, regardless of what level of government it is; city, county, state, federal, I despise you for taking away, no stealing from me, my faith and trust that I had IN MY COUNTRY AND ITS FOUNDATIONS.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-01-26   8:15:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Lod (#2)

That should be a one-pager.

Contingency plan called Case Yellow was put in effect for Japanese invasion of Philippines/Guam/Wake etc before WWI ended.

Such are always in the files and always are updated.

I would hazard plans are also in effect for Russian invasions of Western Europe.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-01-26   9:22:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Lod (#3)

I agree with the gentleman.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-01-26   9:52:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Cynicom (#5)

All the time asking GOD for guidance and forgiveness for doing what we had to do.

It's a powerful statement from someone who seems to have peeked behind the curtain.

It's also so very sad in so many ways...

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-01-26   9:56:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Lod (#6)

All the time asking GOD for guidance and forgiveness for doing what we had to do.

All I ever ask is for people to understand how we got into that position. At no time was it ever by choice.

After a close call, never met an atheist and never met a man that did not want to go home.

Sitting around with many drunken friends, several of them crying, that is the brotherhood.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-01-26   10:12:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Cynicom, 4 (#7)

After a close call, never met an atheist

Truth.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-01-26   11:19:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Jethro Tull (#8)

Most people never held a job that required them to put their life on the line as a part of the job description.

Who was it that use to rag you about your pension, for years? ON this or other forums?

Cynicom  posted on  2015-01-26   11:51:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom (#9)

Who was it that use to rag you about your pension, for years? ON this or other forums?

Buckeroo was/is very upset with me. Despite my repeated attempts explaining how my pension is funded by membership contributions, matched by the city, his anger was never quelled. The scotch didn't help him either.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-01-26   12:33:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jethro Tull (#10)

OK...

Mine was 7 per cent of my pay off the top, at that time Social Security was 1 and a half percent.

Every year had to sweat out a physical, dont pass, see you.

Olde friends told me how " lucky" I was to have such a good pension.

Right...

Cynicom  posted on  2015-01-26   12:54:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Cynicom (#11)

Every year had to sweat out a physical, dont pass, see you.

It's 20 continuous years in the service in order to qualify for pension, right?

I read that under BamBam, officers are being let go at 16 or 18 years.

scrapper2  posted on  2015-01-26   13:13:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Jethro Tull (#10)

how my pension is funded by membership contributions, matched by the city,

In California cities pay the employee's contribution, too, and this happens for all gov't workers not just fire and police. Also some CA. cities are modifying the definition of first responders, so that janitors cleaning up a fire station - for example - would get covered under the first responder umbrella definition.

That's why there's a lot of frustration and anger in CA. taxpayers at the crooked defined pension contracts handed out to gov't workers by Dem Party politicians working in league with unions. Those pension contracts are "unsustainable", to quote lefty's favorite word they use to describe everything else but gov't pensions.

scrapper2  posted on  2015-01-26   13:19:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: scrapper2 (#12)

It's 20 continuous years in the service in order to qualify for pension, right?

Yes...

Mine was combination, military and civil service.

Otherwise would have gotten nothing for military time.

I had friends that were drafted in WWII, called back during Korea and then thrown out with nothing. Of course if they were killed, their wives got $10,000.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-01-26   13:29:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: scrapper2, Cynicom (#13)

What happened in NYC is that occupations that formally didn't carry pensions now do. When I joined only the police and fire had 20 years and out. Over the years the number of pensioned occupations, and their funding, has grown to an unsustainable amount. I'm fully prepared for my pension to vanish, others won't be so lucky if and when it disappears.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-01-26   14:17:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: scrapper2 (#12)

hoping you can make sense of this officer promotion schedule - the higher you go, the tougher it gets -

Promote to: Time in Service Minimum Time in Grade Required by Law Promotion Opportunity 0-2 18 months 18 months Fully qualified (nearly 100 percent)

0-3 4 years 2 years Fully qualified (nearly 100 percent)

0-4 10 years 3 years Best qualified (80 percent)

0-5 16 years 3 years Best qualified (70 percent)

0-6 22 years 3 years Best qualified (50 percent)

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-01-26   14:34:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Jethro Tull (#15) (Edited)

I'm fully prepared for my pension to vanish, others won't be so lucky if and when it disappears.

Good for you to save and invest your $ and not be solely dependent on your city pension. I think eventually defined pension plans are going to go bust no matter what state constitutional guarantees are cited in court cases.

Just so you know, I've always been of the opinion that cities and towns absolutely need police. Their pension contracts reflect hazard pay.

Fire, I'm not so sure about - in many cases along the west coast of CA fire services could be delivered and supported by taxpayers as a regional thingie. Often firemen are acting as grossly over compensated EMT these days in small towns and cities.

Other gov't employees imo should be on 401 K plans like private enterprise employees. Their services are not essential services for a city or town to function properly and if deemed necessary, private enterprise could do those services in a more cost efficient manner. In CA. gov't jobs have grown like weeds - and taxpayers are powerless to stop the proliferation of bureaucratic employment.

scrapper2  posted on  2015-01-26   14:40:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: scrapper2 (#17)

Often firemen are acting as grossly over compensated EMT these days in small towns and cities.

A fireman cousin is drawing over 10K/month retirement pay in SoCal.

Kinda ridiculous, but I guess that's what the city-geniuses wanted...

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-01-26   15:55:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Lod (#18) (Edited)

Kinda ridiculous, but I guess that's what the city-geniuses wanted...

Yes. In CA. when contracts are negotiated, city managers ( who benefit from any salary increase given to their underlings) use salaries of positions in nearby towns and cities as an argument to increase salaries for their employees, whining that they won't be able to hire qualified ( cough, cough) staff if salaries are not the same as those of nearby towns. Keep in mind that not all cities have the same tax base. For example Newport Beach is way more affluent than Irvine, which is way more affluent than Tustin, and all three OC cities are way more affluent than Santa Ana though they are located near each other.

CA taxpayers are taken to the cleaners by gov't unions, CalPers, city managers, and city politicians who agree to all this unaffordable crap. And cities can't exit CalPers contracts without paying a huge penalty so that's why cities stay with CalPers.

P.S. Your cousin's salary sounds a bit low to me - seriously! CA. firemen earn enormous salaries and they also get a ton of overtime $.

scrapper2  posted on  2015-01-26   17:20:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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