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Title: Naval base in Cuba would be Russia's best response to US hawks
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Published: Jan 30, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-01-30 23:38:16 by Tatarewicz
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Pravda...

Naval base in Cuba would be Russia's best response to US hawks. NATO getting closer to Russia's borders

A new NATO command center will be created near Varna in Bulgaria: 40 commanders, trainers and liaison officers. The decision was made during the visit of US Secretary of State Kerry and NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg to Bulgaria. "I am in Bulgaria to show that NATO is as committed to Bulgaria as Bulgaria is to NATO," the alliance's Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said. Pravda.Ru asked Director of the Center for Public Policy Research, Vladimir Yevseyev, to comment on such a development.

"Russia has been increasing its military potential in the Crimea, and it comes as a response to NATO's growing activity in the Black Sea region, when the alliance often violates the Montreux Convention. In Romania, they plan to build a base of interceptor missiles. Therefore, Russia has to strengthen its presence in the Crimea. What Russia does is enough to ensure the security of Russia. Yet, the involvement of Bulgaria harms primarily Bulgaria itself. The short-sighted policy of the Bulgarian leadership has already made Russia shut down the South Stream project, which struck a serious blow on the Bulgarian economy," said Vladimir Yevseyev. Tweet

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The expert noted that the deployment of any type of NATO infrastructure in Bulgaria forces Russia to use those locations as targets for a possible strike in the event of a hypothetical conflict. Thus, Bulgaria jeopardizes its own population. "I believe that the Bulgarian leaders need to reconsider their policy, as it is clear that Bulgaria's security will be weakened. I would not listen to encouraging statements from the USA. Bulgaria can look at what happened in Georgia, when in August of 2008, no one helped the country, despite numerous promises."

"There were plans to build such a center in Turkey, but the country declined the offer not to ruin the ties with Russia. Why has Bulgaria agreed to be at the forefront of the fight against the Russian Federation?"

"It was the USA that has grown the ruling elite of Bulgaria. The Bulgarian elite conduct the American foreign policy. It is understandable why Bulgaria has agreed to everything that it was offered. Yet, I do not understand what Bulgaria can get in return. Turkey is being much smarter at this point, I believe. Bulgaria wants to follow the example of Poland. However, this path is wrong, because at least three aircraft with caskets, in which the bodies of Polish citizens rest, have arrived from Ukraine, where Polish soldiers fought on the side of Kiev. I think the Bulgarian leadership should take this into account," said Vladimir Yevseyev. Russian warplanes make Britain nervous

Meanwhile, Britain summoned the Russian ambassador to explain what two Russian bombers were doing on January 28 near British airspace. "The Russian aircraft were flying with disabled transponders, so they could be seen only in military radar. We asked the expert to comment on this as well.

"If the Russian aircraft had entered the airspace of the United Kingdom, I would have understood the claims. If the airplanes were flying close, then I do not see any serious reason to call the Russian ambassador. Apparently, the psychosis that has been gathering pace not only in the UK, but also in Nordic countries, shows that they are creating an artificial threat. They inflate the bubble that they are then afraid of themselves. From what I've heard, Russian planes have not transgressed the airspace of the United Kingdom," said Vladimir Yevseyev.

Russian Ambassador Alexander Yakovenko said that the flights of the planes of the Russian Air Force over the English Channel met international standards and could not be viewed as threatening or destabilizing. We asked the expert, whether the intensified patrolling activities could be a response to the deployment of military bases in Eastern Europe.

"I believe that Russia has the right to fly in the areas that are regarded as international. There is no doubt that the activation of NATO near the Russian border will cause a response. I believe that Russia's best response to the US and its allies would be to open a Russian naval base in Cuba. This would cool the ardor of US hawks, who want hegemony like nothing else on Earth. There is no such hegemony in the world, therefore, all attempts to blow the so-called Russian threat out of proportion will lead to nothing. The US will certainly be defeated - I mean Russia is not going to wage a war against the United States. The Americans will have to step back. EU's intention not to introduce additional sanctions against Russia is a proof of that," concluded Vladimir Yevseyev.

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#1. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

The Russians have had a "base" in D.C for as long as I can remember.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-01-31   1:02:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Cynicom (#1)

The Russians have had a "base" in D.C for as long as I can remember.

Do you mean a Communist Party base of infiltrators in gov offices there or something else?

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-01-31   5:06:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: GreyLmist (#2)

Do you mean a Communist Party base of infiltrators in gov offices

Indeed...

It went beyond infiltration, to the point of control.

Harry Hopkins lived in the White House, bedroom across the hall from FDR, with 24/7 access at will.

Hopkins is dead, other than that not much real difference.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-01-31   7:47:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#3)

It went beyond infiltration, to the point of control.

Harry Hopkins lived in the White House, bedroom across the hall from FDR, with 24/7 access at will.

Hopkins is dead, other than that not much real difference.

Countermeasure to their infiltrating control, still in effect here as law:

Communist Control Act of 1954 - Wikipedia

a piece of United States federal legislation, signed into law by President Dwight Eisenhower on 24 August 1954, which outlawed the Communist Party of the United States and criminalized membership in, or support for the Party or "Communist-action" organizations

the Act was one of many bills drafted with the intention of protecting America from the potential threat posed by the international Communists.[2] During this time, some argued that “the pursuit of subversive aims even by peaceful means should [have been] outlawed.” [3] Thus, many opposed Communism because of its supposed “subversive aim” to undermine democracy. In the words of the prominent sociologist Ernest van den Haag, there was “no place in democracy for those who want[ed] to abolish [it] even with a peaceful vote.” [3]

Apart from its secondary focus which concentrated on the illegality of “communist front organizations” (i.e. labor unions),[4] the bill was drafted with the intention of tackling the root of the communist problem in America: the Communist Party. In its second section, the CCA of 1954 portrayed the American Communist Party as an “agency of a hostile foreign power.”[2] The Party was described as “an instrumentality of a conspiracy to overthrow the government,” and as a “clear, present, and continuing danger to the security of the United States.”[2] The Act made membership to the Communist Party a criminal act and stipulated that all Party members would be sanctioned with up to a $10,000 fine or imprisonment for five years or both. Additionally, according to the third section, the Communist Party would be deprived of “the rights, privileges, and immunities of a legal body.” [4]

suspended the citizenship rights of the Communist Party members

The provisions of the act "outlawing" the party have not been repealed.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-01-31   8:32:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Cynicom (#3)

Communist Party USA - Wikipedia

The Truman administration's loyalty oath program, introduced in 1947, drove some leftists out of federal employment and, more importantly, raised awareness of [...] Communists as subversives, to be exposed and expelled from public and private employment.

In 1949's Foley Square trial, the FBI prosecuted eleven members of the CPUSA's leadership, including Gus Hall and Eugene Dennis.

the jury found all 11 defendants guilty, and they were sentenced to terms of five years in federal prison. When the trial concluded, the judge sent all five defense attorneys to jail for contempt of court. Two of the attorneys were subsequently disbarred. The government prosecutors, encouraged by their success, arrested and convicted over 100 additional Party officers in the early 1950s.[39]

By the mid-1950s, membership of Communist Party USA had slipped from its 1944 peak of around 80,000[42] to an active base of approximately 5,000.[43] Some 1,500 of these "members" were FBI informants.[44] To the extent that the Communist Party did survive, it was crippled by the penetration activities of these informants, who kept close surveillance on the few remaining legitimate members of the Party on behalf of FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover,[45][46] and the CPUSA dried up as a base for Soviet espionage.[47] "If it were not for me", Hoover told a State Department official in 1963, "there would not be a Communist Party of the United States. Because I've financed the Communist Party, in order to know what they are doing".[48]

In 1993, experts from the Library of Congress traveled to Moscow to copy previously secret archives of Communist Party USA (CPUSA) records, sent to the Soviet Union for safekeeping by party organizers. The records provided an irrefutable link between Soviet intelligence and information obtained by the CPUSA and its contacts in the U.S. government from the 1920s through the 1940s. Some documents revealed that the CPUSA was actively involved in secretly recruiting party members from African-American groups and rural farm workers. Other CPUSA records contained further evidence that Soviet sympathizers had indeed infiltrated the State Department, beginning in the 1930s. Included in CPUSA archival records were confidential letters from two U.S. ambassadors in Europe to Roosevelt and a senior State Department official. Thanks to an official in the State department sympathetic to the Party, the confidential correspondence, concerning political and economic matters in Europe, ended up in the hands of Soviet intelligence.[76][80][81]

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-01-31   8:58:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: GreyLmist (#5)

Spies always operate outside the law, thus laws and penalties are meaningless.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-01-31   9:13:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Cynicom (#6)

Spies always operate outside the law, thus laws and penalties are meaningless.

The laws and penalties and oaths seemed to be working productively with proper enforcement. Enabling Communist infiltration and control by non-enforcement is treasonous complicity, imo.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-01-31   9:49:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: GreyLmist (#7)

Robert Hanssen comes to mind, not long ago and fifteen years of spying.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-01-31   10:03:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#8)

Robert Hanssen comes to mind, not long ago and fifteen years of spying.

Infiltration is what spies do but rapid enough detection or not shouldn't interfere with enforcements to rout Communists from positions of control here as outlaws. Their Communistic, Unconstitutional policies and votes are evidentiary of their subversive activities.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-01-31   10:36:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: GreyLmist (#9)

rapid enough detection or not shouldn't interfere with enforcements to rout Communists from positions of control here as outlaws.

Read Witness?????

Cynicom  posted on  2015-01-31   10:58:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#10)

Read Witness?????

No or maybe infinitesimally amid other research and commentaries. Can you give me a quick review?

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-01-31   11:24:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: GreyLmist (#11)

Can you give me a quick review?

Has to be absorbed in total.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-01-31   11:30:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom (#12)

Has to be absorbed in total.

How many pages? If it's near a hundred or more, it'll be quite some time before my To Do list is sufficiently cleared for that comprehensive reading project.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-01-31   11:50:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: GreyLmist (#11)

If I remember correctly, Witness is some 600 pages.

"Have Brain, Will Travel

Turtle  posted on  2015-01-31   12:23:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Cynicom (#6)

Spies always operate outside the law,

Spying is kind of old fashioned as a Red M.O. today.

The communists have come out of the shadows and operate quite openly. The White House is run from the top down by communists. The Justice Department and other departments and agencies are run by communists. They merely camouflage their affiliation under other partisan labels.

Communism is no longer a Russian affair. It is as American as apple pie.

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2015-01-31   12:30:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Turtle (#14)

If I remember correctly, Witness is some 600 pages.

Yikes! I'd probaby need another lifetime to get through all of that. Will try to look for a synoposis or something somewhere someday.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-01-31   12:40:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: randge (#15)

Spying is kind of old fashioned as a Red M.O. today.

FBI arrested three Russian spies in NYC this week.

They were even using the olde methods of drop off points etc etc. Olde fashioned way.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-01-31   13:19:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: GreyLmis, Turtle (#16)

Witness is 800 pages and should be required reading for all college people.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-01-31   13:24:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Cynicom (#17)

Well, they're Ivans for sure, but I ain't seen they're reported to be commies anywhere.

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2015-01-31   14:04:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: randge (#19)

Russians are Russians, tag is meaningless.

I suspect new breed is also jew just like the olde breed.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-01-31   14:14:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Cynicom (#20)

I suspect new breed is also jew just like the olde breed.

I fear and hate the zio-dualies much more than the Russians.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-01-31   14:24:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Lod (#21)

I fear and hate the zio-dualies much more than the Russians.

Russians in this case is a misnomer.

Russians have not been in charge since 1919, just like Americans have not been in charge here since 1933.

When Soviets pulled back with financial collapse, of the ten instant billionaires, eight were jews.

Just as here, they own and operate the country, along with Putin.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-01-31   14:32:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Cynicom (#22)

Russians have not been in charge since 1919, just like Americans have not been in charge here since 1933.

If you think otherwise, then you're just fooling yourself. The news of each day proves so and that empty suit in the WH follows orders quite well. However, I have come to the conclusion that he may well be throwing a curve into his handlers' plans ... by helping the Muslims. Seems we may be watching a 21st century "duel"!!!

Phant2000  posted on  2015-01-31   14:55:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Phant2000 (#23)

However, I have come to the conclusion that he may well be throwing a curve into his handlers' plans ... by helping the Muslims. Seems we may be watching a 21st century "duel"!!!

I suspect Obombo is doing exactly what he is told.

This jew/muslim thing has to be kept going, stir both sides.

Lenin taught the best way to control the "opposition" was to lead it.

Jews work both sides of the street, no matter who wins, they win.

Anyone that thinks Murdoch and Fox are conservative Americans, has a sieve for a brain.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-01-31   15:03:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Cynicom, randge (#24)

Anyone that thinks Murdoch and Fox are conservative Americans, has a sieve for a brain.

Hear hear. Great comment, Cyni. randge too. It's not called communism anymore. It's Keynesian economics. Reagan was doing it too.

Deasy  posted on  2015-01-31   15:31:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Deasy (#25)

It's Keynesian economics. Reagan was doing it too.

They taught us that Keynes was all about "priming the pump" to promote economic growth. Whatever it was or might have been, the policy now is to flush everyone's wealth down the shitter before the next large armed conflict is organized.

Invest in asbestos underwear.

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2015-01-31   15:51:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: randge, Deasy (#26)

I had much older mentors, long gone, that had one common solid agreement about the future.

They agreed that there would be a total financial collapse, that the government trying to save itself, WOULD SEIZE EVERYTHING.

They agreed on "everything" and meant everything.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-01-31   16:13:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Cynicom (#27)

A system that eats its seed corn.

Deasy  posted on  2015-01-31   16:14:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Deasy (#28)

We see no one resigning from Congress because it is a criminal business.

We see no one resigning for any reason.

Does that mean they are right and we are wrong?

Cynicom  posted on  2015-01-31   18:09:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

The Cuban government should demand that the US leave the base in Cuba, then give it to the Russians. That will shake up things a bit.

Darkwing  posted on  2015-02-01   10:21:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Darkwing (#30)

Cubans are smarter than that.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-02-01   10:44:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Cynicom (#18)

Witness is 800 pages and should be required reading for all college people.

800! Although I did spend quite a while reading through page 1 of some reviews about that book to get the gist of it (very few of which were criticisms but went on for 66! pages) and it sounds good on the surface as a Communism deterrent, I'll say at this point that those reviews, after prior research about the Whittaker Chambers and Alger Hiss case, didn't manage to change my hypothesis that it may have been more of an in-fighting continuation of the Stalinist purges of Trotskyites/internationalists from the Communist Party than it appeared; State's Witness Chambers -- Stalinist leanings, Alger Hiss of FDR's State Department and the UN -- internationalist Trotskyite leanings. Not saying I couldn't be wrong but that's my impression for now and likely will remain unchanged anytime soon by that particular book with nearly 1,000 pages, even though it does sound highly interesting and educational too.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-02-01   11:52:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Cynicom (#32)

800 pages

Just thought you might like to know that one of the reviews I read astoundingly claimed that they were going to read it again! because they considered it of such historical importance; or words to that effect.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-02-01   12:02:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Darkwing (#30)

The Cuban government should demand that the US leave the base in Cuba, then give it to the Russians. That will shake up things a bit.

We should turn it back to the Cubans, who should bulldoze the whole foul nest we've built there including the nasty KZ-Lager we've constructed to house prisoners 90% of whom were sold to us by bandits in the hell-hole wars we created.

Once this place is renovated as a refuge of native vegetation and sparkling sand, it will again be a fit place for clean kids to romp on a tropical beach.

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2015-02-01   12:03:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: GreyLmist (#32)

I suspect you have read Whittaker Chambers in the past and never knew it?????

Cynicom  posted on  2015-02-01   17:31:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Cynicom (#35)

I suspect you have read Whittaker Chambers in the past and never knew it?????

Possibly, since he was also a writer for Time Magazine and National Review. I've read about him and may have read short excerpts from his "Witness" book while researching the Hiss case but nothing specific that I could memorably recall as written by him. While reading the book's reviews, though, there were some examples from it of his writing which I thought impressive.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-02-02   6:27:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: GreyLmist (#36)

Ever read Bambi???

Chambers is well noted for his translation of Bambi, from the German, way back in 1928. He introduced Bambi to the English speaking world and it became a must read for untold millions.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-02-02   10:01:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Cynicom (#37)

Ever read Bambi???

Chambers is well noted for his translation of Bambi, from the German, way back in 1928. He introduced Bambi to the English speaking world and it became a must read for untold millions.

Wow, I didn't know that! Yes, I have read the children's storybook condensed version of that a number of times. Even though Bambi wasn't orphaned to the extent that others like Snow White and Cinderella were, at some point I seriously began to suspect a sort of Brothers Grimm-type "conspiracy of sadness" with themes like that.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-02-02   10:31:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: GreyLmist (#38)

I recall Bambi from back in the late 1930s.

Of course the translator/author was of no interest.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-02-02   11:10:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: GreyLmist (#38)

Side note re Chambers.

He spoke and wrote excellent German, fluent in other languages.He tells in Witness that the Russians that were here as spies...preferred to speak German...in their verbal communication among themselves.

Many of them were alcoholics or at least heavy drinkers and all lived in fear of the day they were told to return to Russia.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-02-02   11:20:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Cynicom (#39)

I recall Bambi from back in the late 1930s.

Of course the translator/author was of no interest.

Well, he is now. :)

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-02-02   11:21:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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