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Title: George W. Bush and the Death of Christian Discernment
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URL Source: http://foodforthethinkers.com/2015/ ... ian-discernment/#comment-12771
Published: Feb 8, 2015
Author: Doug Newman
Post Date: 2015-02-08 23:30:24 by James Deffenbach
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Views: 78
Comments: 8

“Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?” – Galatians 4:16

It took 193 years – 1787-1980 – for the United States to run up $1 trillion in debt. And it took just four years of the first Bush presidency – 1989-1993 – to add an additional $1 trillion to the $3 trillion debt that Ronald Reagan had left us.

And it wasn’t just the debt. It was a broken “no new taxes” pledge, bigger government absolutely everywhere, unprovoked war, devastating trade sanctions on Iraq, a guilty-until-proven-innocent racial quota bill and gun-free schools. The first Bush presidency was a disaster by any objective measure. Even so, millions on the right were perfectly happy with Bush 41. Happy enough to nominate him to run for re-election in 1992.

And in 1999, millions were still sufficiently blinded by party labels to support HW’s son W when he announced that he would run for president in 2000. And when, during a debate in Iowa, W claimed that Jesus had “changed his heart”, millions of evangelical Christians went positively GONZO – that is a theological term – on his behalf.

Whether or not W is a Christian is, as always, between him and God. It is not my position to judge. However, the fact that so many who profess Christ followed him blindly is very disturbing. Jimmy Carter talked about Jesus far more than W ever did. Obama has stated that he is a Christian and the same people who were absolutely GONZO for W positively drip with hatred for Obama. The folks at Westboro Baptist Church claim they are Christians. So do these jerkazoids.

Simply saying you are a Christian does not make you one. Jesus warned us to “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves” – Matthew 7:15. A few verses later He tells us that “by their fruits ye shall know them”.

And just what were the fruits of W’s eight years in the White House? Unprovoked war, torture, spying, rogue police, guilt without trial, Medicare Part D, No Child Left Behind, tax-victim funding for Planned Parenthood and $5 trillion in new debt would be a decent start. If you liked W, you ought to love Obama.

“But he went after the terrorists.” The proper, constitutional, biblically defensible response to terrorism is a letter of marque and reprisal – i.e. a congressionally authorized warrant to pursue the specific perpetrators of things like 9/11. The mass murder of innocent Americans by Muslims does not justify the mass murder of innocent Muslims by Americans.

“But he quit drinking and he didn’t cheat on Laura.” Lots of guys get off the sauce and keep their zippers up. It doesn’t mean they should be president.

It didn’t matter what W did, because no matter what he did, millions considered it Christian. To paraphrase the Police tune, every little thing he did was Christian. But was it truly Christian? Not by any biblical measure.

And these same millions of people are oh so shocked that so many people could be deceived by Obama. Discernment died in America long before anyone ever heard of Obama. It is entirely fair to say that if there was ever a group of people who got exactly the government they deserved, it is these millions of Religious Right evangelicals getting Obama as their president. You reap what you sow. And if you heap endless praise on a perpetrator of immense evil, God is going to reward you with even more evil.

Constitutional attorney, author and educator KrisAnne Hall had this to say: “I believe that when we operate by FAITH, God is FAITHFUL to provide. When HIS people CONTINUE to vote the ‘lesser of two evils,’ God must assume we are satisfied with evil and lets us have it. You are proclaiming to God that His good choice is NOT electable in this country…and I weep for our children!”

W’s brother, former Florida governor Jeb, appears poised to seek the Republican nomination in 2016. And millions will support him for no other reason than that he is not a Democrat, and that his last name happens to be Bush.

He is a chicken hawk who has awarded Hillary Clinton with a medal of freedom, who supports Common Core, who made $2 million sitting on the board of a group that aggressively promoted Obamacare and who “want(s) to govern like LBJ“. But it won’t matter to these people.

Why don’t they just go ahead and nominate Jeb’s daughter Noelle in 2016? You know, the one that got 10 days in the hole for crack possession? I mean, like, her name is Bush and she is not a Democrat.

And even though the Drug War did not prevent his own daughter from possessing crack, Jeb remains, like his father and brother before him, a strident drug warrior. The Obama deception, just like the W deception before it, is part of a Much Larger Story which millions of those who profess Christ refuse to acknowledge the truth, but rather seek comfort in lies. How many of those who have been just so GOOGLY – another theological term – over either of the last two presidents will one day bow down and worship the “son of perdition” who is described in II Thessalonians 2:2-11?

Instead of obsessing about who will be the next president, Christians need to focus on getting out of Babylon – Revelation 18:4. How many will actually do this?

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#1. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

And just what were the fruits of W’s eight years in the White House? Unprovoked war, torture, spying, rogue police, guilt without trial, Medicare Part D, No Child Left Behind, tax-victim funding for Planned Parenthood and $5 trillion in new debt

“A government that can at pleasure accuse, shoot, and hang men, as traitors, for the one general offence of refusing to surrender themselves and their property unreservedly to its arbitrary will, can practice any and all special and particular oppressions it pleases. The result — and a natural one — has been that we have had governments, State and national, devoted to nearly every grade and species of crime that governments have ever practised upon their victims; and these crimes have culminated in a war that has cost a million of lives; a war carried on, upon one side, for chattel slavery, and on the other for political slavery; upon neither for liberty, justice, or truth. And these crimes have been committed, and this war waged, by men, and the descendants of men, who, less than a hundred years ago, said that all men were equal, and could owe neither service to individuals, nor allegiance to governments, except with their own consent.”

- Lysander Spooner

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“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2015-02-09   0:33:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: X-15 (#1)

Spooner was a brilliant man.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat

James Deffenbach  posted on  2015-02-09   0:39:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: James Deffenbach (#2)

GWB used his alleged "Christianity" to excuse all manner of decades-long governmental sins that he perpetuated while pretending to be POTUS.

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“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2015-02-09   1:07:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: X-15 (#3)

Yeah. Apparently he forgot, if he ever knew, that there will be a day of reckoning.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat

James Deffenbach  posted on  2015-02-09   10:02:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

Religion doesn't confer discernment.

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-11   11:20:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Deasy (#5)

Religion doesn't confer discernment.

Amen. I would go so far as to say that religion is contrary to discernment, especially in the use of fear to garner conformity, justification, and blind obedience.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2015-02-11   12:35:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: abraxas (#6)

It seems atheists can go wild, too.

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-11   14:35:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Deasy (#7)

It seems atheists can go wild, too.

True, but there are no atheists in foxholes. : )

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2015-02-11   21:52:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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