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Title: BORIS NEMTSOV’S KILLERS TRIED TO DESTABILIZE RUSSIA – GORBACHEV
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URL Source: http://www.infowars.com/boris-nemts ... -destabilize-russia-gorbachev/
Published: Mar 1, 2015
Author: SPUTNIK
Post Date: 2015-03-01 10:10:43 by Ada
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Views: 238
Comments: 39

Soviet ex-President Mikhail Gorbachev sees the assassination of opposition politician Boris Nemtsov as an attempt to destabilize Russia

Soviet ex-President Mikhail Gorbachev sees the assassination of opposition politician Boris Nemtsov as an attempt to destabilize Russia. He also warns against calls to give excessive powers to law enforcement and security agencies.

“The assassination of Boris Nemtsov is an attempt to complicate the situation in the country, even to destabilize it by ratcheting up tensions between the government and the opposition,” Gorbachev said.“Just who did this is hard to say, let’s not jump to any conclusions right now and give the investigators time to sort this all out,” he added.

Gorbachev did not rule out that the high-profile murder could encourage some people to urge the authorities to introduce a state of emergency, which he said would only exacerbate what is already a difficult situation.

Boris Nemtsov was shot and killed in downtown Moscow on Friday night by unknown assassins who fired at least six shots at the opposition politician before taking off in a white car, probably a Ford Focus or Ford Mondeo, which is currently being sought by police.

Russian President Vladimir Putin condemned the assassination and expressed his condolences to the family. “Putin has stressed that this brutal murder has all [the] signs of a contract murder and is extremely provocative,” presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Saturday.

“With all due respect to the memory of Boris Nemtsov, in political terms he did not pose any threat to the current Russian leadership or Vladimir Putin. If we compare popularity levels, Putin’s and the government’s ratings and so on, in general Boris Nemtsov was just a little bit more than an average citizen,” Peskov added.

Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, meanwhile, urged the law enforcement agencies to make every effort to track down the perpetrators of the “ghastly assassination of a prominent politician.”

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#1. To: Ada, 4 (#0)

Soviet ex-President Mikhail Gorbachev sees the assassination of opposition politician Boris Nemtsov as an attempt to destabilize Russia

Whoa nelly....more than 80% of the Russia population supports Putin and the annexation of the Crimea. Nemtsov and a small minority opposed it. How does killing such a fringe figue with an unpopular position destabilize Russia?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-03-01   10:21:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ada (#0)

Soviet ex-President Mikhail Gorbachev sees the assassination of opposition politician Boris Nemtsov as an attempt to destabilize Russia.

And how else does one dethrone a dictator????

I think we should really tighten the screws on Pooty Poot until he squeals like the jew pig he is.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-03-01   11:06:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

''' as he walked from a restaurant after having dinner with his girlfriend, Ukrainian model Anna Duritskaya.'''

There we have it. Girl friend was horrible Ukrainian.......

Cannot have saintly Russians associating with those horrible Ukrainians.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-03-01   11:17:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ada, Cynicom, Jethro Tull (#0)

Huh. Imagine that.....Gorby's a CTer. I'll bet he's a Truther, too.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2015-03-01   12:08:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

It isn't the average russian who "They're" trying to turn. It's world opinion. I don't think it's gonna work, though. The rest of the world has been on to "Them" since 9/11/01.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2015-03-01   12:15:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Obnoxicated (#5)

Gorby was not for blood running in the streets.

Pooty is.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-03-01   13:05:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Obnoxicated (#5)

It isn't the average russian who "They're" trying to turn. It's world opinion.

I don't get the world opinion thing. The average American doesn't know what day it is never mind the what our geopolitical strategy is vis a vis the Ukraine. They wouldn't know the Crimea from a mushroom cap. I'd bet the "yawn factor' is the same elsewhere, this despite Wolf Blitzer's hysterics.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-03-01   13:06:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Jethro Tull (#7)

I don't get the world opinion thing

When most 4um members think Ukrainians are Russians, how is there any world opinion?

Anyway, my money is, Pooty will hang a few Muslims.

I did not say they would be guilty.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-03-01   13:16:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#8)

We, the USA, is world opinion, nobody else matters on the world stage. This isn't about exceptionalism, but rather reality. Why anyone would think a Russian politician is on the level is beyond me. The operative word is politician, and national borders aren't enough to change their stripes.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-03-01   13:27:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom (#6)

Gorby was not for blood running in the streets.

Pooty is.

Beyond your obvious hatred of all Russians, what do you base your opinion on?

How much blood has been pouring in the streets of Moscow since Putin has been president?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-01   13:29:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#2)

And how else does one dethrone a dictator????

I think we should really tighten the screws on Pooty Poot until he squeals like the jew pig he is.

Since you hate President Putin so much, why don't you go to Russia and try to assassinate him yourself?

I don't believe your dog and pony show there Mr. Cyni, you MUST have some sort of motive behind your "concern" for the people of Russia. What IS your motivation behind all this false bravado?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-01   13:33:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

How does killing such a fringe figue with an unpopular position destabilize Russia?

Well you see JT, people such as Cynicom will instantly blame Putin and scream up and down that he's a murderous dictator that needs to be "dethroned".

And sadly, people within our government will "listen" to such people and use it as further justification for their acts of war against Russia.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-01   13:35:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Jethro Tull (#9)

This is the case where two plus two equals five.

What and where is the missing one we cannot see?

In basic intelligence training, you are taught to look for the obvious, right in front of you, to provide the other...one...

In this case there is a common thread that holds all of these events together. Pooty Poot is just one of the actors or puppets.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-03-01   13:36:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Cynicom (#8)

When most 4um members think Ukrainians are Russians, how is there any world opinion?

Huh? I know of not even ONE person here who thinks "Ukrainians are Russians", other than the fact that most of East Ukraine WAS Russia not that long ago and many who reside there are of Russian descent and speak Russian.

So stop blowing smoke.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-01   13:38:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Cynicom (#13)

You are delusional. Go take your meds and calm the f down.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-01   13:38:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: FormerLurker, Cynicom (#12)

And sadly, people within our government will "listen" to such people

You give Cyni too much credit.

He's been barking at government for decades and here he sits on 4um, the world unchanged :P

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-03-01   13:40:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Jethro Tull (#16)

My point is that there are more than a few within our government who speak and act EXACTLY like Cynicom. And THAT is where the problem lies.

In fact, Cynicom speaks EXACTLY like those in the US State Department, repeating the same proven lies, and making the same outrageous claims.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-01   13:43:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Jethro Tull (#7)

So you don't see the coalition building strategy employed by US. The whining from our pols that europe isn't willing to sacrifice everything to back our play. Whelp, that's the way I'm seeing it. Guess I'm ready for the re-education camp, cuz my mind just ain't right.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2015-03-01   13:44:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Obnoxicated, Jethro Tull (#18)

. Guess I'm ready for the re-education camp, cuz my mind just ain't right.

Proof your mind is right?

You are QUESTIONING what you see right in front of you.

Those that do not question, cannot think for themselves, join the lemmings in their mad rush.

Just perhaps it makes sense, to stand back, take another look, before we join the parade.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-03-01   14:00:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Ada (#0)

“The assassination of Boris Nemtsov is an attempt to complicate the situation in the country, even to destabilize it by ratcheting up tensions between the government and the opposition,” Gorbachev said.“Just who did this is hard to say, let’s not jump to any conclusions right now and give the investigators time to sort this all out,” he added.

One word "Mossad"

Who benefits from Russia's troubles - fascist Israel!

johnj  posted on  2015-03-01   14:15:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Obnoxicated (#18)

So you don't see the coalition building strategy employed by US.

We are NATO and NATO is us. Since forever. Again, not to your point directly, but I haven't a clue who could trust a politician, by they American or Russian. I have no idea how far Putin will push into the Ukraine but if he does he'll meet very little resistance IMO. It isn't an accident Putin's balls grew larger after Obama ceded the ME to whatever name the rag heads use today. As these 'leaders' bicker I'll be watching the sideshow. I've had a front row seat since the Hungarian revolution.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-03-01   14:16:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: johnj (#20)

Who benefits from Russia's troubles - fascist Israel!

Could be some dumb West Ukraine Nazi who thought it'd help their "cause" to make Putin look guilty.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-01   14:30:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: FormerLurker (#15)

You are delusional. Go take your meds and calm the f down.

It's odd you posted this. I spent quite some time the other night talking to a friend, a clinical psychologist, one of the things we talked about is how common it is for delusions to influence geriatric behavior and the difficulty or danger in challenging those delusions. Meds don't work and trying to modify delusional behavior is often counter productive. Of note was that those suffering from delusions can be highly functional, even possess extreme cognitive ability and still be crippled by their mental disorder.

Honest conversation, do some research.

It appears Cyni has lived past his use by date. Tick tock.

The 2 best times to keep your mouth shut are when you’re swimming & when you’re angry.

“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele

“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb

“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm  posted on  2015-03-01   14:55:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Cynicom (#19)

Cyni, sometimes you're too cryptic for your own good.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2015-03-01   15:36:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

Whoa nelly....more than 80% of the Russia population supports Putin and the annexation of the Crimea. Nemtsov and a small minority opposed it. How does killing such a fringe figue with an unpopular position destabilize Russia?

Seems to be a 5th column inside Russia just as there is in places like Libya, Iran, Ukraine, etc. This assassination gives them a chances to stir things up.

Ada  posted on  2015-03-01   16:35:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ada (#25)

We could use one here.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-03-01   16:40:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Obnoxicated (#24)

I like brevity rather than cryptic.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-03-01   16:50:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Ada (#25)

Seems to be a 5th column inside Russia

Russia has always had the problem we are now accruing, namely multiple languages, religions, colors and politics.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-03-01   16:56:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom (#28)

As you noted, Russia's always had her problems, ours are self-created.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-03-01   17:09:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Lod (#26)

We could use one here.

Oh, no, that would mean the overstaffed FBI, ATF, etc. are right about domestic terrorists.

Ada  posted on  2015-03-01   19:17:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Cynicom (#28)

Russia has always had the problem we are now accruing, namely multiple languages, religions, colors and politics.

Those protestors don't appear to be ethnic or language based.

Ada  posted on  2015-03-01   19:18:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Ada (#31)

What ethnic group does Poot look like he belongs to?

Cynicom  posted on  2015-03-01   19:35:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Ada (#30)

lol - great point, except every terrier here is feeb sponsored.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-03-01   19:50:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Cynicom (#32)

He looks slavic to me.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2015-03-01   19:54:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: This thread (#34)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-03-01   20:21:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Hmmmmm (#23)

It's odd you posted this. I spent quite some time the other night talking to a friend, a clinical psychologist, one of the things we talked about is how common it is for delusions to influence geriatric behavior and the difficulty or danger in challenging those delusions. Meds don't work and trying to modify delusional behavior is often counter productive.

I ALSO find it odd that Cyni's delusions are the EXACT SAME delusions that the US State Department and its mouthpieces suffer.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-01   20:26:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: FormerLurker (#36)

I ALSO find it odd that Cyni's delusions are the EXACT SAME delusions that the US State Department and its mouthpieces suffer.

In fairness, while Cyni "may" be suffering from a mental disorder characteristic of old age, the State Department is absolutely guilty of subterfuge.

The 2 best times to keep your mouth shut are when you’re swimming & when you’re angry.

“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele

“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb

“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm  posted on  2015-03-01   22:16:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Ada (#25)

Seems to be a 5th column inside Russia just as there is in places like Libya, Iran, Ukraine, etc. This assassination gives them a chances to stir things up.

Yep.

And the NYT is using the opportunity to paint Putin as a ruthless dictator.

Fear Envelops Russia After Killing of Putin Critic Boris Nemtsov

And then the AP gets into the act.

30,000 marchers in Moscow mourn slain Putin foe


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-02   0:06:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Lod (#33)

lol - great point, except every terrier here is feeb sponsored.

Poor Fibees work so hard. The citizens should help them out.

Ada  posted on  2015-03-02   19:19:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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