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Title: Is There Anyone Here Who Doesn't HATE What US Has Become?
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Published: Mar 1, 2015
Author: lod
Post Date: 2015-03-01 21:41:24 by Lod
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#1. To: Lod (#0)
5+ years ago this graphic was a prediction, now it's reality:

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2015-03-01 21:57:08 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#2. To: X-15 (#1)
So true ~ US just don't know how to say NO! FUCK NO! to illegals.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2015-03-01 22:01:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#3. To: Lod (#2)
Problem numero uno for us:
The Government is OUT OF CONTROL.
Blame it on the muslims, blame it on Obama, blame it on those south of the border that come here, blame it on those on the government dole, blame it on whatever, but until the blame game shifts, ...
It's not one man, it's not one or even a few issues.
These are all merely symptoms, not the root cause. There will be many more severe symptoms to come barring some kind of correction of the actual problem.
The blame game merely keeps people preoccupied. Meanwhile, the core problem isn't even on the radar of the public. The vast propaganda network is doing its job perfectly.

Katniss posted on 2015-03-01 22:24:20 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#4. To: Katniss (#3)
At this point I think it's going to take a few dead congresscritters to get their attention, with the added promise that they can't hide from us if they don't come around.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2015-03-01 22:29:45 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#5. To: Lod (#0)
Is There Anyone Here Who Doesn't HATE What US Has Become?

I hate what the government has done in our name. I hate the lies they have told to start wars to benefit the bankers and the military industrial complex (and their own portfolios in said mic). I hate their abuse of our rights and all their alphabet agencies dedicated to the destruction of our liberty. Damn straight I hate what the US has become.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
James Deffenbach posted on 2015-03-02 2:10:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#6. To: James Deffenbach (#5)
I'd say The People have this attitude towards FedGov today:

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2015-03-02 2:21:57 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#7. To: X-15 (#6)
Exactly.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
James Deffenbach posted on 2015-03-02 2:30:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#8. To: Katniss (#3)
Blame it on the Jews. Without them, most of the issues besetting us wouldn't even exist, much less be so drastic. No exaggeration, no "bigotry" -- FACT.
For those that ain't got the guts, blame it on the Republicans. They're guilty as hell for fooling more of the people more of the time. THAT situation brings in the bizarre angle of people knowing they're being swindled and loving it -- people know the establishment lies all the time yet they believe it faithfully, e.g. every presidential election (Charlie Brown/Lucy/football).
Republicans have been bludgeoning conservatives with abuse, tyranny, and treason for ages. There is nothing conservative about the GOP's actual agenda and voting record in Congress, but people still vote for (for instance) Flimsey Graham because "at least he's not a DEMOCRAT." "At least" -- a great, banal, moronic phrase to inscribe on America's tombstone when she finally gets one because they change her name to something that doesn't evoke 18th-century slave owners.
America is a monster. America is the new Zimbabwe in terms of racial destiny and the new USSR in its quaint habit of eating other countries for breakfast. Actually we're worse than the USSR, because I don't recall that it used "depleted" uranium or actively tortured the Baltics or Poland for decades. It only took the Soviets 9 years to realize their mistake in Afghanistan, so we're already stupider and more evil than they are by half in that regard.
In all the evil motives the USSR had for bludgeoning Afgh and Eastern Europe, I don't ever recall hearing that it was partly or significantly in order to keep their economy going through production of war materiel. Even Vlad the Impaler's got nothing on us – we do worse than impalement to people, we give them a living death in various forms of gulag and support of Israel (but I repeat myself).

NeoconsNailed posted on 2015-03-02 5:19:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#9. To: James Deffenbach (#5)
Damn straight I hate what the US has become.

Yep !
"Honest, April 15th is April Fools Day".
noone222 posted on 2015-03-02 7:04:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#10. To: NeoconsNailed (#8)
Blame it on the Jews. Without them, most of the issues besetting us wouldn't even exist, much less be so drastic. No exaggeration, no "bigotry" -- FACT.

The problems besetting us are not caused by any one group of people but by the evil that is a part of the world since the fall of man. And as I have said many times, there is good and bad in any group you care to mention. There are good and bad Jews just the same as there are good and bad Arabs and Mexicans. While I agree with most of what you said in an otherwise good post I can't agree with that part.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
James Deffenbach posted on 2015-03-02 7:41:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#11. To: X-15 (#4)
At this point I think it's going to take a few dead congresscritters to get their attention, with the added promise that they can't hide from us if they don't come around.

Do you really think that that would even matter at this point?
Say that happened, all I see is a crackdown on the rest of the populace with more of "the usual" reasons, greater police state controls and deaths/killings, etc.
Then those being replaced with other political pawns.

“Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.”

- Woodrow Wilson

Katniss posted on 2015-03-02 9:37:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#12. To: NeoconsNailed (#8)
As you implied, blame Americans for falling prey to this Charlie Brown/Lucy/football political environment that you mention.
It's really the very few, hidden, out of sight pretty much, at the top. There's a reason why the Fed doesn't reveal its owners.
It's definitely the Zionist core that controls that. It's a spiritual battle, but even so-called christianity has been coopted for the effort. When geolographical land needs to be "preserved" for an earthly reign of Christ that Jesus himself denied would ever happen, then it can only come from Satan much as Satan attempted to fool and coopt Jesus.
It's not the Jewish populace, there are many individual Jews that oppose Zionism.
Having said that, I have no doubt that the "Star of David," an occultic symbol and having absolutely nothing to do with David, was deliberately chosen for all of the ways in which 6 is represented therein. So-called christian churches that have it in their midst should be ashamed to say the absolute least.
There is a world of difference, literally, between true Scriptural Christianity and Talmudic Judaism. Most Jews however are not Talmudic anymore than most muslims only offer superficial lipservice to their religion, or for that matter than most people claiming to be christian also merely render lipservice as well.
Most people are beyond wilfully ignorant however. That's on them. They have plenty of time to post on facebook or other social media sites, plenty of time to load up their schedule watching 10, 20, or 30 hours of TV each week, not including "news" programming, etc., plenty of time to educate themselves on what the celebrities are doing and wearing etc., but they don't have enough time to educate themselves as to how they're being used as the tools that they are.

Katniss posted on 2015-03-02 9:56:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#13. To: Katniss (#12)
Are willfully & stupidly the same?
I'm having a difficult time deciding which is the problem...
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2015-03-02 10:10:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#14. To: James Deffenbach (#10)
A stock response I get. I never said it was only the Jews and you just saw me nail another major group of mostly "gentile"evildoers, the Republicabn establishment. But just scratch the surface of any major curse on us (abortion, pornography, socialism, the invasion of America, America's endless invasions of other countries, ad inf.) and it's a Jewish industry. There wasn't even an illegal market for narcotics till a Jew created one!
Jews are not like other people. They're a special case and everywhere they go people make the same complaints against them -- they take over the economy, media and government and run it for their own selfish purposes, enslaving the host population.
Where there's smoke there's fire. The Jews are the only people that take polls on how many people hate them and get thrown out of countries over and over through history. Saying there's good and bad in every group can be applied to anything. It's void for vagueness.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2015-03-02 10:40:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#15. To: Lod (#13)
I'm not sure what you're referring to, but it's an interesting question, isn't it?
I think about stuff like this all the time. Here's how I view it.
Stupid is stupid, many people are stupid. Here's the dictionary definition of stupid:

: not intelligent : having or showing a lack of ability to learn and understand things

: not sensible or logical

IMO there's a fine line between being stupid and lacking wisdom and no doubt with some overlap.
There's an IQ scale for a reason. Someone in the 2nd standard deviation range of the IQ scale, on the lower end that is, would seem to be stupid. We can debate over where that dividing line is, but consider, 100 is supposedly average with 50% falling above and the other 50%, or thereabouts both ways, falling beneath average. Statitically just over 30% are lower than the 1st standard deviation, again, the low end.
The dictionary definition of Willful(ly) is as such;

: refusing to change your ideas or opinions or to stop doing something

: done deliberately

Willful is people so attached to their political philosophy that they've lost some or all sense of objectivity.
One really good example of losing some or all of one's sense of objectivity is how most people justify how what they're taking from the government in terms of benefits and monies is OK, it's really what the others are doing that's the problem. This is also not a Christian trait, rather, it's hypocrisy.
I'll give you just one in a myriad of examples.
Take the average government contractor that makes maybe $150K/year in money that comes from what many will say is taxpayer money, but which I'll say is further debt at this point since taxes come nowhere near paying for what the government does, and the whole fiat currency system aside otherwise.
But that person contributes to the MIC or to some other aspect of the government which in every likelihood contributes to their own oppression. e.g., let's say that are on the teams that create the tools used by the police state or military to conduct their death and killing.
For those people to slam on those on welfare for taking for doing nothing is hypocritical. It's also purely willful for them, which means that they harbor these views deliberately, and also refuse to change their ideas or opinions or to stop doing something, which is the full definition of willful.
The core problem in not only this country, but with humanity in general, is that people are not interested in the big picture, they align themselves with something, a "team" let's say, and once they become a team member, they refuse to listen to anything that is not sunshine up their ass about either themself or their team. They justify exactly what they're doing and thinking and condemn everyone else's opinions and thoughts not to mention actions. These are the types of people that claim to be Christian by then support a good many of the very things that Jesus and Scripture speak against. Life is full of such examples, superficial and otherwise.
Let's take one very good political example;
Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists, right?
Well who wants to be with terrorists, right? What's the remaining choice?
OK, so now we've all joined that team, or most of us, the willful a/o stupid ones, since the intelligent and objective ones examine further options that were not given. Either way, the vast majority of people never even considered that those weren't the only two options, presumably we can agree on that.
How many of those "team members" have renounced that "team" and taken a more objective view of the situation? Not too many IMO since this "terrorism" card seems to keep reaping rewards. "Thank you for your service" is among the most popular idiomatic phrases these days, but people iterate it without even the slightest thought about it. The implications of that alone are monumental in this particular discussion.
Anyway, a tremendously open-ended question. Thoughts?

Katniss posted on 2015-03-02 10:40:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#16. To: NeoconsNailed (#14)
I get all that, but IMO we need to separate political Judaism with people simply being Jewish. I have a very good friend that is Jewish who is as on board with most of what we discuss here.
As I pointed out, there are many Jews that are staunchly against political Judaism.
The watermelon sitting on top of the tea cup here is obviously that as you said, the extents of the Jewish control in industries is vast, and hardly not including our own government. What was once an open topic for discussion has become taboo for discussion due to legal developments.
Daniel 7:

25 And he shall speak words against the Most High, and shall wear out the saints of the Most High; and he shall think to change the times and the law; and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and half a time.

26 But the judgment shall be set, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

27 And the kingdom and the dominion, and the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the Most High: his kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

You are correct that they represent the single largest racial influence in the shaping of modern societies. It's widely known that they control the legal industry, and in industry it is, the financial industry, entertainment, this crap we call "news," and many more.
How does one reconcile that. Seems pretty easy to me. Still, that does not mean that everyone with Jewish heritage is at fault.

Katniss posted on 2015-03-02 10:49:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#17. To: Katniss (#12)
It's not the Jewish populace, there are many individual Jews that oppose Zionism.
Having said that, I have no doubt that the "Star of David," an occultic symbol and having absolutely nothing to do with David, was deliberately chosen for all of the ways in which 6 is represented therein. So-called christian churches that have it in their midst should be ashamed to say the absolute least.
There is a world of difference, literally, between true Scriptural Christianity and Talmudic Judaism. Most Jews however are not Talmudic anymore than most muslims only offer superficial lipservice to their religion, or for that matter than most people claiming to be christian also merely render lipservice as well.

The Jewish populace is by and large very liberal, offers zero resistance to the activist Jewish agenda, and shares the Jewish tribal mentality. Every temple is a hotbed of goy-hating Jewish tribal frenzy. In this sense rank and file Jews are very Talmudic. You've got an excellent point about the so- called Star of David, though -- somewhere I have an old paperback book demonstrating the fraud of it. Also called the shield of Solomon, Solomon wouldn't have known it from trademark sign.
Jews make much of it anyway in their mattoid condition -- Magen David Adom, Square, Synagogue, Mogen David wine etc..... it's as real as the gas chamber at Auschwitz, heh heh!

NeoconsNailed posted on 2015-03-02 10:52:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#18. To: Katniss (#15)
Most people are beyond willfully ignorant however.

My bad for not posting the sentence that started me thinking...do people really choose to be ignorant? or by their stupid actions do we judge them to be willfully ignorant?
I'm not sure of the difference, if any, but somehow I believe it's there.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2015-03-02 10:57:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#19. To: Lod (#18)
do people really choose to be ignorant? or by their stupid actions do we judge them to be willfully ignorant?

IMO, we all use the word propaganda w/o understanding the full impact it has on our lives. It's sophisticated, pervasive and responsible for much of the mass manipulation we see and it's important to note that WE aren't exempt from its influence. Our moral compasses are hard wired at an early age, at least mine was. Our last semi-clear thinking generation lived w/o TV, Hollywood, Zionism and organized religion.

Jethro Tull posted on 2015-03-02 11:16:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#20. To: NeoconsNailed (#14)
Well, it is apparent that you have your mind made up about it and of course you have that right. I don't agree that "Jews are not like other people." Of course they are. You look at the evil cabal of bankers and yes, they should be shunned by everyone at all times. But not all Jews are part of that cabal and there are good Jews just the same as there are good Christians and some degree of good and bad in everyone.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
James Deffenbach posted on 2015-03-02 11:33:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#21. To: Lod (#0)

That's the new term for wetbacks: "Americans-in-Waiting"
“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2015-03-02 14:51:42 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#22. To: NeoconsNailed (#17)
The Jewish populace is by and large very liberal, offers zero resistance to the activist Jewish agenda, and shares the Jewish tribal mentality. Every temple is a hotbed of goy-hating Jewish tribal frenzy. In this sense rank and file Jews are very Talmudic. You've got an excellent point about the so- called Star of David, though -- somewhere I have an old paperback book demonstrating the fraud of it. Also called the shield of Solomon, Solomon wouldn't have known it from trademark sign.
Jews make much of it anyway in their mattoid condition -- Magen David Adom, Square, Synagogue, Mogen David wine etc..... it's as real as the gas chamber at Auschwitz, heh heh!

That's true. But not all Jews are, as I mentioned, I have a buddy very much in the know, there are many others. In fact, there are many in Israel directly that are against Zionist Israel, we simply don't hear from them in the public media for the same reasons we don't get the truth here.

The Jewish populace is by and large very liberal, offers zero resistance to the activist Jewish agenda, and shares the Jewish tribal mentality.

As to that, how is this different from:
LEOs, primarily neocons, that offer zero resistance to the activist Zio agenda?
MIC workers that make a very handsome income, some becoming multi-millionaires, "some" that I've known personally, that forge the chains of our bondage via their work and yet offer zero resistance to the activist Zio agenda?
Teachers in the public school system, that educates kids at a pop of about $15K/student for every grade, as in $15K for 1st Grade for example, and those that are directly complicit in the common core et al., Zio agenda as well, many of whom are also not liberal, while offering exactly zero resistance to the Zio agenda?
I could go on and on an on.
Again, don't get me wrong, we know full well who holds all the key positions and thus the cards in all of America's key industries, particularly the most influential and controlling ones, but that does not mean that the entire batch is at fault. Many are used like pawns just like the rest of us.

Katniss posted on 2015-03-03 9:55:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#23. To: James Deffenbach (#20) (Edited)
Tell me why the Extreme Court is 1/3 Jewish, every Fed chairman's a Jew, and the mass media are openly Jew-run if there isn't an evil Jewish takeover going on please. The media exert vast, evil power over the masses worldwide. They brainwash each new generation with patently insane and distinctly Jewish concepts of "tolerance" and "diversity." They can make or break any public figure and often do, according to the insane dogma of political correctness.
Like I said, it doesn't help your case that there's good and bad in every group. That can be said of bees and wasps, but it doesn't mean you want them taking over your home.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2015-03-03 10:21:37 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#24. To: Lod (#18)
My bad for not posting the sentence that started me thinking...do people really choose to be ignorant? or by their stupid actions do we judge them to be willfully ignorant?
I'm not sure of the difference, if any, but somehow I believe it's there.

Boy, this could be a tremendously good thread and highly educational for anyone that partakes. I know I'm interested. Let's develop this.
I was actually thinking about this while driving around yesterday. Let's take some specific examples. Let's start with some low-hanging fruit.
Let's take the people on videos being interviewed by people like Mark Dice asking them what they think of (and just making stuff up here) say Hitler's invasion of South America, with people responding seriously.
Clearly they're either not intelligent or ignorant. If they're ignorant, would you say that it's willful? Because that's a pretty big thing to not understand, and something that's taught at pretty much all levels in grade school, the angles and takes on it all aside.
Still yet you have people, mostly young, that know what most celebrities are doing/wearing/saying, etc., but that don't know what the three branches of government are, pretty trivial stuff. Or to take it out of the context of politics, don't know that Canada is to our north or similarly that Mexico is to our south. What are they?
I'd guess that a lot of them are stupid, the 30+% below the 1-standard deviation on the south side of the 100 IQ. And if you caught that, I just defined stupid as anything outside the statistical 68% ranging from the lower 1st s.d. on downward. Was that proper?
What is "stupid," at what point does a person get classified as stupid.
This could be a very lengthy discussion. LOL
But let's digress a bit, let's take Sean Hannity. Is he stupid? Clearly not. He's too well-spoken and obviously not uneducated or unintelligent. Still, he's a neocon shit faucet. Is he ignorant, or simply a paid shill & liar?
Either way, he chooses to do what he does, and he clearly believes the 911 story. If/when it becomes popular to see it as the charade and FF that it was, he too will talk about it as if "we didn't know at the time," etc. Could be lying, but I don't think so. He strikes me as more of a willfully ignorant type, choosing to remain oblivious to the facts because he gets most of his info from mainstream sources like most Americans. If that weren't the case it wouldn't be termed mainstream, right?
Some people, when put in front of a Mark Dice type of microphone, make it clear that they're stupid. Take that, what was it, Miss America contestant from SC, and her "we need to give education to Africa" (or whatever it was) comments e.g. She's clearly not bright and well below 100 IQ. Stupid? Depends upon where we draw that line. Clearly not intelligent however, leaving few other options.
It's funny, people, as well as people that consider other people, often will not classify some other people into one of two boolean categories, but at the same time they hesitate to put them into the other. This is a prime example.
To me if someone lacks intelligence, then they're stupid. Quite simple with perhaps only a marginal amount of gray area in the middle somewhere. i.e., not stupid but hardly intelligent kinda thing.
John Hagee, stupid, or willfully ignorant? To me clearly the latter. He's so self-absorbed in his well-paid role of wolf in shepherd's clothing, that he cannot see the truth, he'll miss it if it hits him square in the eyes, as it has done in Scripture. Yet, he thinks contrary to the truth.
Now, I'd say that he's also not the brightest person, but not stupid. Perhaps you disagree, IDK. So he's clearly willfully ignorant.
Here's a key one IMO. Let's take anyone that gets paid by government. Let's single out teachers and workers/employees of the MIC. (big government defense corps, there are numerous)
Many claim to be conservatives, many are neocons that while missing true conservative & libertarian core tenets, gripe about government spending nonetheless.
But they all conveniently ignore the fact that they themselves are in those ranks. So how do they do that while complaining in good conscience? I ask, I was among them and cannot do so. So I'm highly qualified to ask this and condemn them for it given their political takes on liberty, or the assault thereof.
Most of them are not unintelligent, although I know some really stupid teachers that simply have a gift with young children and anyone can teach via rote. I also know some fairly not-so-intelligent government contractors. I know or have known, a good many of truly unintelligent government workers, the government is chock full of 'em. People that would be on the low rungs were it not for the government overpaying them for something.
So are the teachers and gov contractors stupid? Or more willfully ignorant?
I'd suggest the latter, with a bit of moral hypocrisy in them. They ignore how government spending has helped them, but for some reason they, and the other tens of millions of teachers and government contractors, not to mention government employees in the agencies and depts. that they support, directly, are part of the problem. See how that works?
Cops aren't intelligent, we know that, they deliberately hire for a lack of intelligence, it's on record, so they get what they want. Are cops stupid? Depends upon the definition, but yeah, I'd say that a good many are. In fact, I'd say that there are quite a few people south of that 1st s.d., in essence, the bottom third or so of people in this nation intellectually speaking, work for the the government(s), either as government employees, teachers, or cops. Those jobs hardly draw the intellectual capital of the world. Little thought is actually required for most of that work, most is simply the following of instructions after extensive training/indoctrination.
Thoughts?

Katniss posted on 2015-03-03 10:22:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#25. To: NeoconsNailed (#23)
I said what I had to say about it. Reasonable people don't disagree with the position that there is both good and bad in any group you can name and even in each of us as individuals. None of us are perfect. I don't plan to have anything else to say about it, we can just agree to disagree.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
James Deffenbach posted on 2015-03-03 10:49:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#26. To: Jethro Tull, geezers, 4 (#19)
Our moral compasses are hard wired at an early age, at least mine was. Our last semi-clear thinking generation lived w/o TV, Hollywood, Zionism and organized religion.

You're right ~ for most here, failure was not an option. There was always some concerned adult around to kick-ass if we screwed up; and then even more when we got home and our folks learned about it.
For that, I'm most grateful.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2015-03-03 10:56:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#27. To: Lod (#0)
Is There Anyone Here Who Doesn't HATE What US Has Become?

Yes there is:

Neo TryingtoWarnYou posted on 2015-03-03 11:04:05 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#28. To: Neo TryingtoWarnYou (#27) (Edited)
Tell me the truth -- did you ever see a more clownish, idiotic or girlish looking "man" than GHWB? Even W, the Smirking Chimp itself, looks more manly.
Bush-41 has always been a SUPER sissy demon. The idea of him beating up on Arab countries the way he did is such an embarrassment you want to crawl under the computer desk and die.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2015-03-03 17:40:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#29. To: NeoconsNailed (#28)
Tell me the truth -- did you ever see a more clownish, idiotic or girlish looking :man" than GHWB?

Jethro Tull posted on 2015-03-03 17:59:02 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#30. To: Jethro Tull (#29) (Edited)
How priceless! Are there GHWB belt buckles, license plate frames and crazy eights cards too? Maybe glittery pencils.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2015-03-03 18:09:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#31. To: NeoconsNailed (#8)
America is a monster. America is the new Zimbabwe in terms of racial destiny and the new USSR in its quaint habit of eating other countries for breakfast. Actually we're worse than the USSR, because I don't recall that it used "depleted" uranium or actively tortured the Baltics or Poland for decades. It only took the Soviets 9 years to realize their mistake in Afghanistan, so we're already stupider and more evil than they are by half in that regard.

zziiinnngggg....
good post!
Truth is still truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it.
christine posted on 2015-03-03 20:46:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#32. To: Jethro Tull (#29)
Those ankle-warmers must be a desperate shout-out for the reaper to arrive quickly.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2015-03-03 20:54:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
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