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Title: The Scene of the Crime
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URL Source: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/03/30/the-scene-of-the-crime
Published: Mar 25, 2015
Author: SEYMOUR M. HERSH
Post Date: 2015-03-25 08:32:41 by Ada
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A reporter’s journey to My Lai and the secrets of the past.

Pham Thanh Cong, the director of the My Lai Museum, was eleven at the time of the massacre. His mother and four siblings died. “We forgive, but we do not forget,” he said.

Pham Thanh Cong, the director of the My Lai Museum, was eleven at the time of the massacre. His mother and four siblings died. “We forgive, but we do not forget,” he said.

CREDIT PHOTOGRAPH BY KATIE ORLINSKY There is a long ditch in the village of My Lai. On the morning of March 16, 1968, it was crowded with the bodies of the dead—dozens of women, children, and old people, all gunned down by young American soldiers. Now, forty-seven years later, the ditch at My Lai seems wider than I remember from the news photographs of the slaughter: erosion and time doing their work. During the Vietnam War, there was a rice paddy nearby, but it has been paved over to make My Lai more accessible to the thousands of tourists who come each year to wander past the modest markers describing the terrible event. The My Lai massacre was a pivotal moment in that misbegotten war: an American contingent of about a hundred soldiers, known as Charlie Company, having received poor intelligence, and thinking that they would encounter Vietcong troops or sympathizers, discovered only a peaceful village at breakfast. Nevertheless, the soldiers of Charlie Company raped women, burned houses, and turned their M-16s on the unarmed civilians of My Lai. Among the leaders of the assault was Lieutenant William L. Calley, a junior-college dropout from Miami.

By early 1969, most of the members of Charlie Company had completed their tours and returned home. I was then a thirty-two-year-old freelance reporter in Washington, D.C. Determined to understand how young men—boys, really—could have done this, I spent weeks pursuing them. In many cases, they talked openly and, for the most part, honestly with me, describing what they did at My Lai and how they planned to live with the memory of it.

In testimony before an Army inquiry, some of the soldiers acknowledged being at the ditch but claimed that they had disobeyed Calley, who was ordering them to kill. They said that one of the main shooters, along with Calley himself, had been Private First Class Paul Meadlo. The truth remains elusive, but one G.I. described to me a moment that most of his fellow-soldiers, I later learned, remembered vividly. At Calley’s order, Meadlo and others had fired round after round into the ditch and tossed in a few grenades.

Then came a high-pitched whining, which grew louder as a two- or three-year-old boy, covered with mud and blood, crawled his way among the bodies and scrambled toward the rice paddy. His mother had likely protected him with her body. Calley saw what was happening and, according to the witnesses, ran after the child, dragged him back to the ditch, threw him in, and shot him.

The morning after the massacre, Meadlo stepped on a land mine while on a routine patrol, and his right foot was blown off. While waiting to be evacuated to a field hospital by helicopter, he condemned Calley. “God will punish you for what you made me do,” a G.I. recalled Meadlo saying.

“Get him on the helicopter!” Calley shouted.

Meadlo went on cursing at Calley until the helicopter arrived.

Meadlo had grown up in farm country in western Indiana. After a long time spent dropping dimes into a pay phone and calling information operators across the state, I found a Meadlo family listed in New Goshen, a small town near Terre Haute. A woman who turned out to be Paul’s mother, Myrtle, answered the phone. I said that I was a reporter and was writing about Vietnam. I asked how Paul was doing, and wondered if I could come and speak to him the next day. She told me I was welcome to try.

The Meadlos lived in a small house with clapboard siding on a ramshackle chicken farm. When I pulled up in my rental car, Myrtle came out to greet me and said that Paul was inside, though she had no idea whether he would talk or what he might say. It was clear that he had not told her much about Vietnam. Then Myrtle said something that summed up a war that I had grown to hate: “I sent them a good boy and they made him a murderer.”

Meadlo invited me in and agreed to talk. He was twenty-two. He had married before leaving for Vietnam, and he and his wife had a two-and-a-half-year-old son and an infant daughter. Despite his injury, he worked a factory job to support the family. I asked him to show me his wound and to tell me about the treatment. He took off his prosthesis and described what he’d been through. It did not take long for the conversation to turn to My Lai. Meadlo talked and talked, clearly desperate to regain some self-respect. With little emotion, he described Calley’s orders to kill. He did not justify what he had done at My Lai, except that the killings “did take a load off my conscience,” because of “the buddies we’d lost. It was just revenge, that’s all it was.”

Cartoon “Listen, I’m still your mother.” BUY THE PRINT » Meadlo recounted his actions in bland, appalling detail. “There was supposed to have been some Vietcong in [My Lai] and we began to make a sweep through it,” he told me. “Once we got there we began gathering up the people . . . started putting them in big mobs. There must have been about forty or forty-five civilians standing in one big circle in the middle of the village. . . . Calley told me and a couple of other guys to watch them.” Calley, as he recalled, came back ten minutes later and told him, “Get with it. I want them dead.” From about ten or fifteen feet away, Meadlo said, Calley “started shooting them. Then he told me to start shooting them. . . . I started to shoot them, but the other guys wouldn’t do it. So we”—Meadlo and Calley—“went ahead and killed them.” Meadlo estimated that he had killed fifteen people in the circle. “We all were under orders,” he said. “We all thought we were doing the right thing. At the time it didn’t bother me.” There was official testimony showing that Meadlo had in fact been extremely distressed by Calley’s order. After being told by Calley to “take care of this group,” one Charlie Company soldier recounted, Meadlo and a fellow- soldier “were actually playing with the kids, telling the people where to sit down and giving the kids candy.” When Calley returned and said that he wanted them dead, the soldier said, “Meadlo just looked at him like he couldn’t believe it. He says, ‘Waste them?’ ” When Calley said yes, another soldier testified, Meadlo and Calley “opened up and started firing.” But then Meadlo “started to cry.”

Mike Wallace, of CBS, was interested in my interview, and Meadlo agreed to tell his story again, on national television. I spent the night before the show on a couch in the Meadlo home and flew to New York the next morning with Meadlo and his wife. There was time to talk, and I learned that Meadlo had spent weeks in recovery and rehabilitation at an Army hospital in Japan. Once he came home, he said nothing about his experiences in Vietnam. One night, shortly after his return, his wife woke up to hysterical crying in one of the children’s rooms. She rushed in and found Paul violently shaking the child.

I’d been tipped off about My Lai by Geoffrey Cowan, a young antiwar lawyer in Washington, D.C. Cowan had little specific information, but he’d heard that an unnamed G.I. had gone crazy and killed scores of Vietnamese civilians. Three years earlier, while I was covering the Pentagon for the Associated Press, I had been told by officers returning from the war about the killing of Vietnamese civilians that was going on. One day, while pursuing Cowan’s tip, I ran into a young Army colonel whom I’d known on the Pentagon beat. He had been wounded in the leg in Vietnam and, while recovering, learned that he was to be promoted to general. He now worked in an office that had day-to-day responsibility for the war. When I asked him what he knew about the unnamed G.I., he gave me a sharp, angry look, and began whacking his hand against his knee. “That boy Calley didn’t shoot anyone higher than this,” he said.

I had a name. In a local library, I found a brief story buried in the Times about a Lieutenant Calley who had been charged by the Army with the murder of an unspecified number of civilians in South Vietnam. I tracked down Calley, whom the Army had hidden away in senior officers’ quarters at Fort Benning, in Columbus, Georgia. By then, someone in the Army had allowed me to read and take notes from a classified charge sheet accusing Calley of the premeditated murder of a hundred and nine “Oriental human beings.”

Calley hardly seemed satanic. He was a slight, nervous man in his mid-twenties, with pale, almost translucent skin. He tried hard to seem tough. Over many beers, he told me how he and his soldiers had engaged and killed the enemy at My Lai in a fiercely contested firefight. We talked through the night. At one point, Calley excused himself, to go to the bathroom. He left the door partly open, and I could see that he was vomiting blood.

In November, 1969, I wrote five articles about Calley, Meadlo, and the massacre. I had gone to Life and Look with no success, so I turned instead to a small antiwar news agency in Washington, the Dispatch News Service. It was a time of growing anxiety and unrest. Richard Nixon had won the 1968 election by promising to end the war, but his real plan was to win it, through escalation and secret bombing. In 1969, as many as fifteen hundred American soldiers were being killed every month—almost the same as the year before.

Combat reporters such as Homer Bigart, Bernard Fall, David Halberstam, Neil Sheehan, Malcolm Browne, Frances FitzGerald, Gloria Emerson, Morley Safer, and Ward Just filed countless dispatches from the field that increasingly made plain that the war was morally groundless, strategically lost, and nothing like what the military and political officials were describing to the public in Saigon and in Washington. On November 15, 1969, two days after the publication of my first My Lai dispatch, an antiwar march in Washington drew half a million people. H. R. Haldeman, Nixon’s most trusted aide, and his enforcer, took notes in the Oval Office that were made public eighteen years later. They revealed that on December 1, 1969, at the height of the outcry over Paul Meadlo’s revelations, Nixon approved the use of “dirty tricks” to discredit a key witness to the massacre. When, in 1971, an Army jury convicted Calley of mass murder and sentenced him to life at hard labor, Nixon intervened, ordering Calley to be released from an Army prison and placed under house arrest pending review. Calley was freed three months after Nixon left office and spent the ensuing years working in his father- in-law’s jewelry store, in Columbus, Georgia, and offering self-serving interviews to journalists willing to pay for them. Finally, in 2009, in a speech to a Kiwanis Club, he said that there “is not a day that goes by that I do not feel remorse” for My Lai, but that he was following orders—“foolishly, I guess.” Calley is now seventy-one. He is the only officer to have been convicted for his role in the My Lai massacre.

In March, 1970, an Army investigation filed charges ranging from murder to dereliction of duty against fourteen officers, including generals and colonels, who were accused of covering up the massacre. Only one officer besides Calley eventually faced court-martial, and he was found not guilty.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

And NOTHING is being done to the Clinton, Bush and Berry's administrations???? They murdered millions.

Darkwing  posted on  2015-03-25   9:28:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Darkwing (#1)

And NOTHING is being done to the Clinton, Bush and Berry's administrations???? They murdered millions.

"Who will bell the cat?", eh.

Ada  posted on  2015-03-25   9:36:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ada (#0) (Edited)

[Calley said] he was following orders—“foolishly, I guess.”

And no "fragging" worries for him about it or even about a "mutinous" relief of duty on the spot as unfit for command? Implausible.

Commie PsyOps within Commie PsyOps...

From a review of the book, THE END OF VICTORY CULTURE: Cold War America and the Disillusioning of a Generation by Tom Engelhardt

Engelhardt points to the transformation and decline of this "victory culture" in America's Asian wars, beginning with the atomic horror of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, continuing through stalemate in Korea, and ending in defeat in Vietnam.

As America became mired in Asian wars, the "war story" became as tinged with racism as it had been during the Indian wars. Later, the narrative tapped into fears of nuclear disaster and anti-Communist paranoia. During the Vietnam War, the national myth languished and finally perished as the US military became trapped in a war the public couldn't understand and ultimately loathed.

Available for preview at books.google.com

Excerpts from pg. 220: ... the terrorist became an infant; the VC Messenger, a child; ... the VC suspect, an old man. The enemy, invisible yet deadly, once dead, became visible and harmless. ... a tiny faction of radicals, the Weathermen, instinctively grasped this. ... they began in 1969 to call for the extermination of "Pig Amerikka," ... At a "National War Council" in Flint, Michigan, that December, Weatherleader Bernadine Dohrn...

Excerpt from pg. 221: ... as with one [alleged] soldier at Mai Lai who evidently purposely shot himself in the foot, an individual could disobey or ignore or avoid orders or even "frag" an officer who challenged his right not to fight [My note: or simply move to arrest an officer issuing illegal orders to commit war crimes]

Excerpts from pg. 225: "I believe a new Communist tactic is recurring and they know they can rely on the liberals in the press as suckers," wrote a man from Baltimore. "I don't believe it actually happened," commented a Los Angeles salesman. "The story was planted by" ... "people inside this country who are trying to get us out of Vietnam sooner." Congressman John R. Rarick from Louisiana referred to Mai Lai as "the massacre hoax," while Senator Peter Dominick claimed that the Mai Lai reports [were] based on "unverified photographs"

Excerpt from pg. 226: Almost no book against the war was complete without comparisons of American acts to German war crimes, of the American public to "Good Germans." In those years, no matter whose eyes you looked through, you were likely to see Nazis. Tom Hayden, preparing for an "election year offensive" with what he hoped would be massive antiwar demonstrations in Chicago during the 1968 Democratic National Convention ... As the journalist, Elinor Langer has written, "In the middle of Chicago at the nominating convention of one of America's two major parties, half of us thought we were in Germany and half of us thought we were in Russia." (The police charged the demonstrators, screaming, [against] Commies!")

Pg. 246 unavailable for preview. Search result displayed for "Weathermen": The Weathermen, that final crazed offshoot of SDS, proclaimed a new "politics of confidence and ... of victory." ("The Vietnamese people have won. ... We have won, we have won in Vietnam, that was a victory for us and for all people.")

Edited spelling + to expand pg. 221 excerpt and to add pg. 226 excerpts.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-03-25   13:46:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#3) (Edited)

a new Communist tactic is recurring and they know they can rely on the liberals in the press as suckers,"

As accomplices, too.

Author: SEYMOUR M. HERSH

A reporter’s journey to My Lai and the secrets of the past. [Synopsis]

an American contingent of about a hundred soldiers, known as Charlie Company, having received poor intelligence, and thinking that they would encounter Vietcong troops or sympathizers, discovered only a peaceful village at breakfast.

By early 1969, most of the members of Charlie Company had completed their tours and returned home. I was then a thirty-two-year-old freelance reporter in Washington, D.C.

I’d been tipped off about My Lai by Geoffrey Cowan, a young antiwar lawyer in Washington, D.C. Cowan had little specific information, but he’d heard that an unnamed G.I. had gone crazy and killed scores of Vietnamese civilians.

In a local library, I found a brief story buried in the Times about a Lieutenant Calley who had been charged by the Army with the murder of an unspecified number of civilians in South Vietnam.

After a long time spent dropping dimes into a pay phone and calling information operators across the state [My note: because Hersh the Redoubtable "dime dropper" supposedly forgot how to use library directories for contact info that's not privately unlisted /s], I found a Meadlo family listed in New Goshen, a small town near Terre Haute.

Mike Wallace, of CBS, was interested in my interview, and Meadlo agreed to tell his story again, on national television.

Combat reporters such as Homer Bigart, Bernard Fall, David Halberstam, Neil Sheehan, Malcolm Browne, Frances FitzGerald, Gloria Emerson, Morley Safer, and Ward Just filed countless dispatches from the field that increasingly made plain that the war was morally groundless, strategically lost, and nothing like what the military and political officials were describing to the public in Saigon and in Washington. On November 15, 1969, two days after the publication of my first My Lai dispatch, an antiwar march in Washington drew half a million people.

at the height of widespread campus protests against the war—protests that included the [My note: alleged] killing of four students by National Guardsmen in Ohio—I went to Macalester College, in St. Paul, Minnesota, to give a speech against the war. Hubert Humphrey, who had been Lyndon Johnson’s loyal Vice-President, was now a professor of political science at the college. ... “I’ve no problem with you, [My note: Comrade] Hersh,” he said. “You were doing your job [My note: for the Communist Party] and you did it well. ... Humphrey’s fleshy, round face reddened,

Edited formatting + to add Synopsis excerpt 2 for date context.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-03-25   15:51:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: All (#4) (Edited)

Posts #3, #4 and #6

Subtitling as: Windows on the Vietnam War Period and Commie-Red "Color Revolution" Strategics American-Styled -- Still Ongoing

Compression edits + Quote section.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-03-25   17:27:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Ada (#0)

During the Vietnam War, there was a rice paddy nearby, but it has been paved over to make My Lai more accessible to the thousands of tourists who come each year to wander past the modest markers ... The [alleged] My Lai massacre [March 16, 1968] was a pivotal moment in that misbegotten war

By early 1969, most of the members of Charlie Company had completed their tours and returned home. I was then a thirty-two-year-old freelance reporter in Washington, D.C. [and] spent weeks pursuing them.

I had been told by officers returning from the war about the killing of Vietnamese civilians

In November, 1969, I wrote five articles about Calley, Meadlo, and the [alleged] massacre.

It was a time of growing anxiety and unrest.

On November 15, 1969, two days after the publication of my first My Lai dispatch, an antiwar march in Washington drew half a million people.

John Kerry - Wikipedia

Kerry enlisted in the Naval Reserve in 1966, and during 1968–1969 served an abbreviated four-month tour of duty in South Vietnam as officer-in-charge (OIC) of a Swift Boat.

Winter Soldier Investigation - Wikipedia: Purpose

The "Winter Soldier Investigation" was a media event sponsored by the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) from January 31, 1971 – February 2, 1971.

several journalists and a film crew recorded the event, and a documentary film called Winter Soldier was released in 1972. A complete transcript was later entered into the Congressional Record by Senator Mark Hatfield, and discussed in the Fulbright Hearings in April and May 1971, convened by Senator J. William Fulbright, chair of the United States Senate Committee on Foreign Relations.

In the words of one participant veteran, Donald Dzagulones,

"We gathered not to sensationalize our service but to decry" ... "the My Lai Massacre."

When future Senator and Secretary of State John Kerry, then a decorated Lieutenant in the Naval Reserve (Inactive), later spoke before a Senate Committee, he explained,

we feel because of what threatens this country, ... not reds, and not redcoats but the crimes which we are committing that threaten it, that we have to speak out.

Not Commie-Reds and their outfits or anything like that, insistently avowed the "Winterized" off-duty Navyman, Kerry, while garbbed in fatigues during his defamatory, active-impersonation of a decorated "soldier" before a Senate Committee.

Associated Press Pic

"...easier to fool the people than to convince them they have been fooled" -- Mark Twain quote

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

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#7. To: All (#6)

Cross-referencing Posts #10-#12 of 4um Title: Nixon and the My Lai massacre coverup

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-05-19   13:15:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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