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Title: I recant by Chuck Baldwin
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Published: Apr 7, 2015
Author: Chuck Baldwin
Post Date: 2015-04-07 00:52:30 by christine
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I RECANT.
I'm using this Facebook post to make a couple of personal confessions.
In one way or another, we are all victims of our past. I was schooled in certain persuasions that have taken 3/4 of a lifetime to overcome. But when I made a conscious decision to pursue and follow truth--no matter where it led me--many years ago, my mind and heart have been liberated with the illumination of truth time and time again. I personally believe that only people who, in their hearts, are sincerely open to truth will ever find it.
I will not make these issues a test of fellowship with those who disagree with me (although, I'm sure many of them will). I, myself, believed differently for all of my adult life. And these conclusions have not been made overnight. It has taken years of study and research to bring me to the conclusions I am sharing with you in this post.
Obviously, this forum will not allow me to go into detail about the conclusions I'm going to share. That must be reserved for another day and another forum. But, for the sake of the folks--especially those Christian folks--who follow my work, I believe I need to be honest and straightforward regarding these conclusions.
So, here we go:
1. I recant the dogmatism of a belief in a pre-millennial rapture.
That doesn't mean that I DON'T believe in a Rapture. It just means that I am no longer dogmatic about it; and neither do I think that it matters to a tinker's dam regarding my personal duty to God. The Lord is going to fulfill His divine will regarding prophetic events in His time. Quite frankly, I am convinced that, for the most part, it is not for us to know the things God has reserved unto Himself. (Acts 1:6, 7)
For too long, many of our pre-millennial friends have been using a belief in the Rapture as an excuse to sit back on their blessed assurance and do nothing. Even if the doctrine is true, the way it is being used as an excuse to not engage the liberty fight is downright shameful.
2. I recant the position that the modern state of Israel is the same as the prophetic Israel of the Bible.
The nation of Israel rejected their Messiah and God destroyed their nation, their capital city, and their temple in 70 AD. Spiritually, the children of Israel have been in a state of blindness ever since. With the advent of the New Testament Church, we are NOT Jews or Gentiles, Greeks or Barbarians, etc.: we are all ONE IN CHRIST. God's people today are the blood-washed saints of all races, ethnicities, nationalities, etc. Again, we are ONE IN CHRIST.
Accordingly, I am convinced that the modern state of Israel is NOT the prophetic fulfillment of the future redeemed nation of Israel. NOT IN ANY SHAPE, MANNER, OR FORM. I further conclude that the misapplication of applying prophetic scriptures to the modern state of Israel is producing nothing but perpetual war, the demise of liberty at home, the rise of a Police State, and the facilitation of a devilish New World Order.
So, there you have it. I RECANT.
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#1. To: christine (#0)
I personally believe that only people who, in their hearts, are sincerely open to truth will ever find it.

Very good! Every word of his entire message.

Pinguinite posted on 2015-04-07 2:32:37 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#2. To: christine (#0)
Sounds much like my own sentiments and beliefs.
"We're all on death row, only the execution date is uncertain".
Doug Scheidt 2015
noone222 posted on 2015-04-07 6:32:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#3. To: christine (#0)
Oh, NO -- is Chuck Baldwin an "ANTI-SEMITE"(TM) now??? :-)
Great news -- thanks for it! Now maybe he'll be willing to give up his blind admiration for Stinkin' Lincoln. Maybe he's already seen the light there too, but if he'd recanted that I'd probably know it.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2015-04-07 6:57:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#4. To: christine (#0)
Amen, from top to bottom!
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2015-04-07 6:58:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#5. To: Pinguinite (#1)
Very good! Every word of his entire message.

He forgot one:

1. I recant the dogmatism of a belief in a pre-millennial rapture.

He needs to recant of a "millennial" too, i.e., a millennial reign.
Jesus: My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
Furthermore:
2 Pet. 3:10:

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall be dissolved with fervent heat, and the earth and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

So it will be impossible any way it's sliced.
Funny though how the Zios push this despite Jesus' own words that it was them whom he was being delivered to for death.
Also clearly the same Jews referred to in Rev. 2:9 & 3:9.

and the blasphemy of them that say they are Jews, and they art not, but are a synagogue of Satan.

Behold, I give of the synagogue of Satan, of them that say they are Jews, and they are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

So Chuck needs to really come clean and recant that one too. It's at the core of all the worst and most satanic world-changing stuff today. Israel, particularly Jerusalem, a piece of ground politically oriented, must remain in "christian" hands (the laugh of the day for the informed), so that Jesus can have his temple that he's made clear does not exist as his church is the temple, a spiritual one, not a brick-n-mortar one.
It's beyond astonishing.

Katniss posted on 2015-04-07 7:59:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#6. To: christine (#5)
Forgot to copy you to above.

Katniss posted on 2015-04-07 8:00:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#7. To: Katniss (#5)
What is the meaning of “the synagogue of Satan,” mentioned in Revelation 2:9 and 3:9?

The word “synagogue” is based on the Greek word sunagoge (assembly or church). The “synagogue of Satan” is an assembly or church comprised of people who “say they are Jews, and are not.” In this context, the usage of the term “Jews” is in a spiritual connotation. As the apostle Paul stated, in Romans 2:29, “…he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter…”
Therefore, it is not our racial heritage that matters, but rather our spiritual standing, as Galatians 3:27-29 shows: “For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you be Christ’s, then are you Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” Upon conversion, true Christians become spiritual Jews. In John 4:22, Christ stated, “Salvation is of the Jews.”
Those who are part of the “synagogue of Satan” claim to be spiritual Jews. In other words, they pose as true Christians. The development of this false church was already well underway in the Apostle John’s time. Passing itself off as God’s true Church, it had congregations in the Asia Minor cities of Smyrna and Philadelphia, even then. Revelation 17 further describes it and the churches that spawned from it.
http://rcg.org/questions/p067.a.html

Abraham posted on 2015-04-07 8:31:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#8. To: Katniss (#5)

So Chuck needs to really come clean and recant that one too.

No doubt everyone needs to recant at least one thing or two, or perhaps even a bunch of things, whether something in their own private lives or some public doctrine. I prefer not to be too demanding on anyone making any improvement.

Pinguinite posted on 2015-04-07 10:41:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#9. To: Pinguinite (#8)
No doubt everyone needs to recant at least one thing or two, or perhaps even a bunch of things, whether something in their own private lives or some public doctrine.

True that.
Truth is still truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it.
christine posted on 2015-04-07 11:46:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#10. To: Pinguinite, christine, Katniss, 4 (#8)
Casting the first stone is generally a bad plan.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2015-04-07 12:01:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#11. To: Abraham (#7) (Edited)
Upon conversion, true Christians become spiritual Jews. In John 4:22, Christ stated, “Salvation is of the Jews.”

First of all, I do my own research, I do not look at sites. The Bible tells us all that we need to know.
I'm not sure what you're saying in the above, but if it includes any notions that anything related to the Jews as Jesus spoke of them, spiritually speaking that is, then you are amiss. Today the word is meaningless other than in historical and modern socio-political contexts. Spiritually it is irrelevant.
So when you say true Christians become spiritual Jews, I see almost no context in which that is correct. The Jews were morally bereft for hundreds of years before Jesus showed up on the scene, they were evil, as Jesus could not have made that any clearer than he did in Matt. 23, during his lifetime, and since then the term has only added confusions, confuscated matters, detracted from the truth, and been the source of most of the direct anti-Christian sentiment on this planet.
Jesus recognized this which is why in Matt. 23:38 he declares their house desolate, in direct fulfillment of Dan. (9:24-27)
Anyone that thinks that Israel or Jews have anything at all to do with Christ in a spiritual sense lacks understanding and wisdom.

Katniss posted on 2015-04-08 13:01:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#12. To: Pinguinite (#8)
No doubt everyone needs to recant at least one thing or two, or perhaps even a bunch of things, whether something in their own private lives or some public doctrine. I prefer not to be too demanding on anyone making any improvement.

I hear ya, just calling that since the two are directly related. In fact, you don't have a "pre" withouth the thing that it precedes.

Katniss posted on 2015-04-08 13:04:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#13. To: Lod (#10)
Casting the first stone is generally a bad plan.

Casting a stone is one thing, critiquing an article based on its points is entirely another.

Katniss posted on 2015-04-08 13:05:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
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