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Title: Where the White People Live
Source: The Atlantic
URL Source: http://www.theatlantic.com/business ... -the-white-people-live/390153/
Published: Apr 10, 2015
Author: Alana Semuels
Post Date: 2015-04-13 22:07:04 by Dakmar
Keywords: None
Views: 189
Comments: 27

How self-segregation and concentrated affluence became normal in America

Last summer, the Michigan town of Grosse Pointe Park erected a farmer's market in the middle of one of the few remaining streets that allowed cars to pass between the tony suburb and the urban Detroit neighborhoods at its border. It was the latest of many attempts by Grosse Pointe Park residents to close off roads and block traffic between what has become a predominantly white, affluent suburb, and its poorer, urban neighbor.

There were protests about the border, and Grosse Pointe Park later said it would tear down the farmer's market and re-open the road, but the incident speaks volumes to the segregation that exists in Detroit, and the tensions that can grow as a result.

The barrier erected in Grosse Pointe (Alana Semuels)

The fact that these two areas are so close is unique—the border between Grosse Pointe Park and the city of Detroit is the only place in any of America's biggest cities where a very wealthy, predominantly-white area abuts a very poor, black one, according to research from a new working paper from the University of Minnesota. But the existence of self-segregated wealthy white areas close by low-income minority ones isn't unique, according to the Minnesota researchers. They have sorted census tracts in 15 of America's 20 biggest cities into "racially concentrated areas of affluence" and "racially concentrated areas of poverty," and find that many cities have more areas of segregated affluence than they do poverty.

Racially concentrated areas of affluence, by the researchers' definition, are census tracts where 90 percent or more of the population is white and the median income is at least four times the federal poverty level, adjusted for the cost of living in each city. Racially concentrated areas of poverty, by contrast, are census tracts where more than 50 percent of the population is non-white, and more than 40 percent live in poverty.

Detroit has 55 racially concentrated areas of affluence and 147 racially concentrated areas of poverty, according to the research, done by Ed Goetz, Tony Damiano, and Jason Hicks. Detroit's racially concentrated areas of affluence are just 1.1 percent black. Its racially concentrated areas of poverty, by contrast, are 76 percent black.

Cities such as St. Louis, Boston, Baltimore, and Minneapolis have more racially concentrated areas of affluence (RCAAs) than they do racially concentrated areas of poverty (RCAPs). Boston has the most RCAAs of the cities they examined, with 77. St. Louis has 44 RCAAs, and 36 RCAPs. Other cities with a large number of racially concentrated areas of affluence include Philadelphia, with 70, Chicago, with 58, and Minneapolis, with 56.

In Boston, 43.5 percent of the white population lives in census tracts that are 90 percent or more white and have a median income of four times the poverty level. In St. Louis, 54.4 percent of the white population lives in such tracts. More From The Next Economy

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Still, it's the poor areas, rather than the areas where whites have self-segregated, that get the most attention from policymakers, who have sought to ameliorate concentrated poverty in segregated areas by moving families from black, urban areas to white suburbs. Beginning in 1989, the federal government started dismantling housing projects, spending billions to retool the type of housing available to low-income people in urban cores.

Programs may still integrate schools between white and black areas, as I’ve written about before, and they may move black families to white neighborhoods, as I’ve also detailed. But government programs don’t—and probably shouldn’t—move white families from wealthy areas to somewhere else (although they do provide incentives for home buyers or builders to locate in certain lower-income neighborhoods, thus beginning a process of gentrification).

Public policy has “focused on the concentration of poverty and residential segregation. This has problematized non-white and high-poverty neighborhoods,” said Goetz, the director of the Center for Urban and Regional Affairs at the University of Minnesota, when presenting his findings at the Lincoln Institute of Land Policy. “It’s shielded the other end of the spectrum from scrutiny—to the point where we think segregation of whites is normal.”

Racially Concentrated Areas of Affluence and Areas of Poverty in Large Metro Areas Goetz, Damiano, and Hicks/University of Minnesota

Goetz and his team are still researching the effects of this self-segregation of whites, but he thinks that a high number of RCAAs may be a negative factor for cities.

“Some people argue that when whites and affluent people segregate themselves, it can erode empathy, and it can inhibit the pursuit of region-wide remedies,” he told me. “It can inhibit a sense of shared destiny within a metropolitan area.”

This brings to mind a metro area such as Detroit, which emerged from bankruptcy last year, and was characterized by a poor and segregated urban core and wealthy white suburbs that did not contribute to the city’s revenue. The executive of Oakland County, to Detroit’s north, which is one of the whitest areas in the nation, has said publicly he doesn’t feel any incentive to help the city of Detroit.

Goetz and his team also researched the RCAAs’ and RCAPs’ distance to downtown. Areas of affluence are located, on average, 21.1 miles from a metro area’s downtown. In Detroit, racially concentrated areas of affluence are, on average, 24.2 miles from the city’s downtown. In Washington, D.C., racially concentrated areas of affluence are 25.1 miles from downtown; in Chicago, they’re 22.1 miles. Racially concentrated areas of poverty, on the other hand, are on average 6.6 miles from downtown, and in cities such as Baltimore, St. Louis, and Philadelphia, they’re much closer.

RCAAs and RCAPs in the Detroit Metro Area RCAPs, in blue, are concentrated in the city of Detroit, while RCAAs, in red, are all in the suburbs (the Grosse Pointe border is on the right side of the right map) (Goetz, Damiano and Hicks/UMN)

There is less self-segregation of metro areas in the West: San Francisco and Houston have just five racially concentrated areas of affluence each, Seattle has nine, Los Angeles, 11. Seattle has just six racially concentrated areas of poverty and San Francisco has 12. These western cities have larger populations of affluent minorities, and are, in general, more diverse. Only 1.1 percent of affluent households live in RCAAs in San Francisco and only 3.1 percent do in Seattle, but in St. Louis, by contrast, 23.1 percent of affluent households live in a racially concentrated area of affluence. In cities in the North and East, there are also still lingering effects of the housing policies that, for decades, kept non-white families from buying in certain neighborhoods.

The racial makeup of concentrated areas of poverty differs between regions, too: they're predominantly black in Atlanta, Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, St. Louis, Philadelphia, and Washington, predominantly Latino in Houston and Los Angeles, and mixed in Boston, Minneapolis, and San Francisco.

Goetz and his fellow researchers are planning on looking into why these areas form in certain cities and certain places, and whether people pay a housing premium to live in segregated areas of affluence, as opposed to more racially diverse areas of affluence.

Racially Concentrated Areas of Affluence in the Boston Metro Area RCAAs in the Boston area are located in both the city and the suburbs (Goetz, Damiano and Hicks/UMN)

Some of their further research has already generated interesting results. They looked into how federal housing dollars are spent in areas of poverty and areas of affluence in the Twin Cities, and found something surprising: The government spends just as many housing dollars in areas of poverty as it does in areas of affluence.

In racially concentrated areas of affluence, federal dollars come in the form of the mortgage-interest deduction. In areas of poverty, they come through vouchers and subsidized housing units. In the Twin Cities, the total federal investment in the form of housing dollars in RCAAs was three times larger than the investment in RCAPs. On a per capita basis, it was about equal.

Federal dollars are now being spent to “subsidize racially concentrated areas of affluence,” Goetz said

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#1. To: All (#0)

Goetz and his fellow researchers are planning on looking into why these areas form in certain cities and certain places, and whether people pay a housing premium to live in segregated areas of affluence, as opposed to more racially diverse areas of affluence.

hahahahahaha

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus

Dakmar  posted on  2015-04-13   22:12:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#0) (Edited)

Keep in mind that these progressives define "subsidizing the wealth" as keeping my property taxes here in National Homesville, USA, to only a 50% graft premium.

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus

Dakmar  posted on  2015-04-13   22:16:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Dakmar (#0)

“Some people argue that when whites and affluent people segregate themselves, it can erode empathy, and it can inhibit the pursuit of region-wide remedies,” he told me. “It can inhibit a sense of shared destiny within a metropolitan area.”

Before hurling, I stopped there.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-04-13   22:27:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Lod (#3)

I suggest you tough it out and keep reading, there are some serious dreams(?) of social engineering going on in the article. Any properly organized society would shun these vultures.

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus

Dakmar  posted on  2015-04-13   22:33:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Dakmar (#0) (Edited)

Last summer, the Michigan town of Grosse Pointe Park erected a farmer's market in the middle of one of the few remaining streets that allowed cars to pass between the tony suburb and the urban Detroit neighborhoods at its border. It was the latest of many attempts by Grosse Pointe Park residents to close off roads and block traffic between what has become a predominantly white, affluent suburb, and its poorer, urban neighbor.

"Urban" is liberalese for black -- make a note of it. "Doctor" Tony Evans is the vaunted token negro among funnymentalist radio celebrities, and his show is called Urban Alternative, meaning "please stop being niggaz, my ghetto niggaz!"

Urban Alternative makes it sound like it's not a racial show, even though everybody knows it is. Since easily 98% of evangelicals are white, or were when the show started 30+ years of torrential immigration ago, I wonder if a show called "Black Alternative" or "Afro-American Alternative" would have even gotten 1/10 the attention and coverage it has. We must analyze and shout warnings about gliberal jargon -- it's how gliberals get it all done.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-04-14   2:36:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Dakmar (#0)

Federal dollars are now being spent to “subsidize racially concentrated areas of affluence,” Goetz said

Does that mean that biracial couples can move into affluent white neighborhoods on the feds dime?

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-04-14   6:11:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Lod (#3)

Programs may still integrate schools between white and black areas, as I’ve written about before, and they may move black families to white neighborhoods, as I’ve also detailed. But government programs don’t—and probably shouldn’t—move white families from wealthy areas to somewhere else (although they do provide incentives for home buyers or builders to locate in certain lower-income neighborhoods, thus beginning a process of gentrification).

Interesting that the guy advises against the govt movng whites to black areas, but not vice versa.

Id like to know wtf govt is involved in any of this??

Another example of lunacy in govt, squandering our tax dollars on something that shouldn't exist., who lives where based on what color they are. Better to let it work itself out.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-04-14   6:16:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Dakmar, 4 (#0)

Good article, Dak. And what is our open border policy except the full, forced integration of our country? I realize the more 'sophisticated' view on illegals is to blame the boys at Goldman Sacks & the banking cartel rather than the illegals, but it is they who broke into our country. The big boys also won't be the ones pushing a shiv against your neck and removing your property from you. At any rate, carry on. This nation is toast mostly because it's people are unable to act like men & woman with a desire to survive both physically and culturally.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-04-14   9:52:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Jethro Tull (#8)

Viva Zapata.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-04-14   9:55:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom (#9)

Meet baby Jose O'Brien. This formally White baby is enjoying his new biracial identity.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-04-14   10:13:19 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jethro Tull, 4 (#10)

The simple truth is that people live in the best 'hoods that they can afford; end of story, no need for a study to prove this fact.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-04-14   10:24:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Lod (#11)

people live in the best 'hoods that they can afford

You never met a hill billy white trash?

We dont like livin in no damned hood with all the cuzins.

We prefer a forty year olde trailer, middle of nowhere. Anyone comes in sight, you know hes up to sumpin.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-04-14   11:18:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Lod (#11)

Uppity hill billies live in ten year old third hand trailer, in a trailer park.

Snobs.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-04-14   11:26:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Lod, Cynicom (#11)

The simple truth is that people live in the best 'hoods that they can afford; end of story, no need for a study to prove this fact.

In the 1960s, John Lindsey built enormous 'projects' among middle class, White neighborhoods. That was my introduction to both liberalism & White flight.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-04-14   11:50:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Jethro Tull (#14)

That was my introduction to both liberalism & White flight.

I underwent a period of "blockbusters" in Baltimore, many years ago.Three inch solid oak doors, restraint chains, bars on the windows.

New home, three years later it was bulldozed to build a integrated school, for all blacks.

The whites left.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-04-14   12:08:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Jethro Tull (#14)

Atlanta today is a great example of people voting with their feet to get out of an integrated community in favor of the smaller, whiter, towns all around Atlanta proper.

Segregation by income; it will always be that way.

An unwritten law of nature.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-04-14   12:10:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Lod (#16)

An unwritten law of nature.

How does one reconcile that poor whites will not live with poor blacks?

Money is not the total deciding factor, racial behavior is.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-04-14   12:19:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Dakmar (#0)

Die-Versity....killn whitey every day.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2015-04-14   12:31:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Cynicom (#17)

How does one reconcile that poor whites will not live with poor blacks?

Personal choice and personal values.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-04-14   12:40:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Lysander_Spooner (#18)

Die-Versity....killn whitey every day.

Amen

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-04-14   13:41:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Lod (#16)

Segregation by income; it will always be that way.

An unwritten law of nature.

The bolsheviks seek to put and end to that by putting an end to income.

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2015-04-14   20:18:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: randge (#21)

Yes, for some they can just pull the fiscal plug; while for those not dependent on a fedgov check, corporate pensions, 401Ks and the like, it won't be so easy to stop the income from flowing in.

It could get most interesting in this country.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-04-14   20:45:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Lod (#22)

It could get most interesting in this country.

For sheer entertainment value, these swine have already employed puppets in our pay to stage spectacular events like 911, OK City, Sandy Hook, Boston, Fort Hood, just to name a few.

It's already getting pretty interesting from where I sit.

It hasn't gotten to the point yet where I'm shoring up the doors and windows with lumber or where I'm picking around the radioactive rubble looking for a can of tuna, but hey, it might get that interesting yet.

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2015-04-14   22:14:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: randge (#23)

It hasn't gotten to the point yet where I'm shoring up the doors and windows with lumber or where I'm picking around the radioactive rubble looking for a can of tuna, but hey, it might get that interesting yet.

Amen, and I hear ya.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-04-14   22:38:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Lod (#3)

Before hurling, I stopped there.

LOL! No kidding! Me, too.

“It can inhibit a sense of shared destiny within a metropolitan area.”

Who wants to share a destiny with deadbeats, gangbangers, dopers, rapists, thieves, muggers, and other losers?

scrapper2  posted on  2015-04-15   1:31:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Lod (#16)

Segregation by income; it will always be that way.

Exactly. As soon as poor whites, blacks, Hispanics, Indians, Asians get enough $ to move to a safer middle class neighborhood they leave posthaste.

It's a human nature survival instinct.

scrapper2  posted on  2015-04-15   1:42:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: scrapper2 (#25)

“It can inhibit a sense of shared destiny within a metropolitan area.”

The people legislating, ruling, decreeing this stuff are criminally insane - - as are those scribbling it up in literally delirious articles like that. The former are today's Pharisees, the latter our scribes, a pincer movement on us by the junta and its propaganda arm. Together they're responsible for a huge percentage of the trouble amerika has seen since the 1850s -- utopianists always wanting somebody else to live the results of their mad whims and forcing them (us) to do it.

They cannot abide what happens naturally, because if it's left to that, they're out of business. By definition their lives depend on stirring up mayhem to "save" us from with each new cure being worse than the disease.

Things don't just happen. Whatever happens in politics and law, people make it happen. Nothing about today's situation represents things taking a normal, organic course as they would under a minimal, purely administrative fedgov like the one we're supposed to be having all this time.

“a sense of shared destiny within a metropolitan area” -- it hurts too much to laugh! These planners are real big on Destiny. They think they're it, in fact! All the while the ones over them know it's really just to take whitey's stuff away from him and murder him.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-04-15   3:35:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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