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Title: ABC7 TV Eyewitness News reporter asked about the 'Dancing Israelis'
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URL Source: http://libertyfight.com/2015/ABC7_r ... ed_about_dancing_israelis.html
Published: Apr 27, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-04-27 15:09:41 by Artisan
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I'm not big on 'ambush journalism' and that's not what this was, but when a local KABC TV news crew interviewed me about a local jewelry store crash & grab heist near Los Angeles, I thought I'd have some fun with it. So after their interview I conducted a brief interview of my own, and asked the reporter if he ever heard of another group of bandits who were the only people arrested in New York City on September 11, 2001: The Dancing Israelis!

The ABC7 reporter was Q McCray; a nice professional gentleman. He's described on their website as "a general assignment reporter for ABC7 Eyewitness News." This question about the dancing Israelis was not to disparage him, but rather to illustrate two things: 1. that not many people may even know about these facts, including the people that the public supposedly gets its' important news from; and two, that we can keep these important issues in the public arena, even 14 years later.

As I pointed out in my 2012 article "Dancing Israelis" Arrested On 9/11 Later Sued The Govt, But Lost Their Case ,

"ABC's TV News Program 20/20 did an episode on the matter June 21, 2002,: "Five Israeli men arrested soon after 9/11 might have been working for Israeli intelligence, but likely did not know beforehand about the attacks". They also ran a news story titled The White Van. ABC's 20/20 interviewed a former CIA chief for the segment:

"Vince Cannistraro is a former chief of operations for counter-terrorism with the Central Intelligence Agency. Now he's a consultant with ABC News. He says many in the US intelligence community believe that some of the men arrested in the white van were in the US working for Israeli intelligence. They speculate that Urban Moving was being used by Israel as an intelligence front."

I suggest reading the entire transcript of the 20/20 segment because it is very interesting and gives a lot of details. The five Israelis were eventually released after lengthy interrogations: "Sources tell 20/20, after high-level negotiations between Israeli and US government officials, a settlement was worked out." [Article continues here...]

[Note that I do not actually talk so slow, (actually I'm a motormouth) but this was a deliberate ploy to draw the reporter in and get him interested in what I was trying to say- relating it to a robbery- and as you can see, it works like fish to bait. ;-) lol playing 'dumb' or innocent is a very effective way to disarm people.

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#1. To: Artisan (#0)

Are we the only ones who've heard of the dancing Israelis?

Beyond amazing.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-04-27   15:15:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Artisan (#0)

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-27   16:06:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Artisan (#0)

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-27   16:27:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Lod (#1)

Are we the only ones who've heard of the dancing Israelis?

It doesn't matter about all the jews arrested with bomb-making material, boxcutters, fake passports and $5000 in cash in new york city on 9/11/01. making a fuss about it is akin to a conspiracy theory. ;-)

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-04-27   16:43:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Lod (#1)

Lod, until visiting this site, I had never seen building 7 drop.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2015-04-27   18:49:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Obnoxicated (#5)

Glad that you found 4um; we try to present truthful news, information, and our own opinions here.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-04-27   19:11:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Lod (#6) (Edited)

Glad that you found 4um; we try to present truthful news, information, and our own opinions here.

Certainly not in that order nor mindful of any conflicts between them...

Case in point is the cop interview I provided which totally debunks the interviewer's attempts at validating his debunked conspiracy theory...

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war  posted on  2015-04-28   6:54:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Artisan (#0)

Do they say he's an ABC report or show an building marked ABC?

They must be yankees if they expect a clearly stoned nubian to answer for the malevolent media giant. (Pardon my prejudice >;-)

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-04-28   7:20:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: war, lod, *9-11* (#7)

Case in point is the cop interview I provided which totally debunks the interviewer's attempts at validating his debunked conspiracy theory...

The interview you posted, which I heard at afp probably years before you ever heard of the dancing israelis, is with the cop who arrested the israelis. Nothing he says debunks anyy facts of the case, in fact it only affirms them.

The cop is scared, which is why he admits he will never talk again about it & admits he does not know what happened to them after he arrested them.

It is public record though, since the fbi report was declassified along with the local police report. In addition, the federal lawsuit, although not available to the general public such as yourself, is readily available to anyone who knows how to access federal docket records. I've actually read it, & you're very degraded to try & deny any of the long admitted facts of this case.

They did have explosives material, boxcutters, fake passports, 5k cash, video and photos of them smiling in front of the towers. Their jew lawyer blamed immaturity. Abc played the clip where the israelis said they were there to document the event.

They later tried to sue the us gov and bureau of prisons and ashcroft for civil rightss abuses, but lost.

Any other questions you need answers to, so that your confusion may be lessened?

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-04-28   11:33:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Artisan (#9) (Edited)

I heard of the Dancing Israeli's within a very short period of time around of 9/11. I would suggest that you re-read these reports...hopefully your grasp of English has improved since you last read them:

Here they are:

http://tinyurl.com/pcj3tac

-No explosives
-No video
-No film of Towers before the attack
-No *fake* passports...

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war  posted on  2015-04-28   12:33:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Artisan, 4 (#9)

mossad, moving-van, 911 mural, remote-controlled plane, more -

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-04-28   13:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: war (#10)

-No explosives -No video -No film of Towers before the attack

Big huge BS on the 1st item. "Tons of explosives" were found in one of their white vans on the onramp of the George Washington Bridge, as reported by various MSM outlets.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-28   14:20:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: FormerLurker (#12) (Edited)

"Tons of explosives" were found in one of their white vans on the onramp of the George Washington Bridge, as reported by various MSM outlets.

...and then retracted...

QUESTION: Mayor, do you know anything about the report about the possible resources that they found in New Jersey?

GIULIANI: Yes. I think the Police Commissioner was able to get information about that.

BERNARD KERIK, NEW YORK CITY POLICE COMMISSIONER: I just got a confirmation from the Chief of Detectives, he's reach out to the FBI. They have confirmed that someone has been stopped in New Jersey, three men in a van. However, there was no explosives in the van. All right. They're being held for questioning.

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-28   14:34:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: FormerLurker (#12)

Police confirm arrests but deny explosives find

4:34:43 AM

NYPD officers have confirmed the arrest of three men on the New Jersey turn- pike.

However officials denied any explosives were found in the van. Officials declined to say why exactly the men had been arrested.

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-28   14:36:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: FormerLurker (#12)

On CBS Tuesday night there was a report -- originated by its New York station, WCBS -- that a van filled with explosives had been found on the George Washington Bridge. Though men in a van were detained, the vehicle did not contain explosives. Still, CBS said the report was based on trusted sources and the station corrected it when it learned that the report was in dispute.

www.nytimes.com/2001/09/1...ttacks-the-coverage-some- flawed-information-occasionally-creeps-in.html

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-28   14:37:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: war (#13)

Yet the FIRST reports from several different sources reported "TONS of explosives" found, that the van was "filled with explosives".

It's not something that somebody could possibly get wrong or misunderstand.

So it's apparent that the coverup was already in play shortly after the initial unadulterated reports.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-28   15:00:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: FormerLurker (#16) (Edited)

=Yet the FIRST reports from several different sources reported "TONS of explosives" found, that the van was "filled with explosives".

So, if I ask a million 5 year olds if Santa exists that means, of course, Santa exists.

The reporting of WCBS, picked up by other services, was wrong.

And you could not fit 4000lbs, the minimal amount necessary for *tons* in one of those trucks.

Another Epic Fail...

So it's apparent that the coverup was already in play shortly after the initial unadulterated reports.

Yes...the NJ State police were, sorry, are in on it too...

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-28   15:06:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: war (#14)

Tangential to the story, I think this is the time the talking heads all reported that the men in the van were alleged to have "looked like Palestinians".

Can you believe it? I guess there's a minicourse in journalism school where you're taught to tell one Mideastern type from another for this fantastically fine-turned mode of reportry.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-04-28   15:24:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: NeoconsNailed (#18)

Funny.

Since we know who owns the msm, do you think that anyone would say that the suspects looked like bagel-sniffers?

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-04-28   16:02:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Lod (#19)

Oh, bagel-sniffers don't EXIST as a political faction! We're them, they're us, we are the world, they are the world, we are the children, we're in them, they're in us, 'Cause they gave us the love, love that we never haaaaaaad!!!

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-04-28   16:13:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: war (#10)

i have the original fbi reports, not some dubious link entitled 'tiny url.'

don't know what youre trying to hawk there at that website.

it's acknowledged that the jews had explosive materials, and not only the 5 dancing Israelis, but multiple other Israelis in other states in additional vans, who could not explain why they were in states not involved with their moving company route.

along with their smiling photos, and videos, and fake passports and cash. I tried to explain to you, they sued for these items back in federal court, but lost.

since you always defend the government, surely you are entitled to believe that these admitted mossad agents who said they were there to 'document the event' are just hapless innocent bystanders.

but such a position does show a shocking lack of intelligence, and a sadly gullible naivete. to each their own.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-04-28   16:53:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: FormerLurker, war (#16)

So it's apparent that the coverup was already in play shortly after the initial unadulterated reports.

police commissioner Bernard kerik, who shortly after

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-04-28   16:57:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: war (#13) (Edited)

QUESTION: Mayor, do you know anything about the report about the possible resources that they found in New Jersey?

GIULIANI: Yes. I think the Police Commissioner was able to get information about that.

BERNARD KERIK, NEW YORK CITY POLICE COMMISSIONER: I just got a confirmation from the Chief of Detectives, he's reach out to the FBI. They have confirmed that someone has been stopped in New Jersey, three men in a van. However, there was no explosives in the van. All right. They're being held for questioning.

"possible resources", as the "Questioner" farcically phrased it. LOL And, astonishingly, that's not even the most comical part of the above interviewing, which is that the official vouching that there weren't explosives in the van is NYPD Commissioner, Bernard Kerik (who was indicted, convicted and incarcerated soon after for ethics issues and such).

Reformatting edit.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-04-28   17:28:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: All (#23)

BERNARD KERIK, NEW YORK CITY POLICE COMMISSIONER: ... They're being held for questioning.

held months ... for questioning ...

Seems to me like there was something more to it than that.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-04-28   17:40:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: war (#17)

So, if I ask a million 5 year olds if Santa exists that means, of course, Santa exists.

So now the FBI and the NYPD are equivilant to 5 year olds who believe in Santa, eh?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-28   17:47:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: GreyLmist (#24)

held months ... for questioning ...

Seems to me like there was something more to it than that.

Of course there was. They were most likely part of the 9/11 operation.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-28   17:48:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: FormerLurker (#26)

They were most likely part of the 9/11 operation.

Quite possibly Bernard Kerik, too, who went to Israel soon before 9/11.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-04-28   18:15:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: GreyLmist (#27)

Kerik was just a dirty as his boss, Ghouliani.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-04-28   18:26:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Artisan (#21)

i have the original fbi reports, not some dubious link entitled 'tiny url.'

Good for you, snookie. That tinyurl link goes directly to the FBI and local police reports via the service provided by Scrib-D.

don't know what youre trying to hawk there at that website.

Nothing. It's a free website.

This good enough, Lee Harvey?

Dancing Israelis Police Report

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-29   7:23:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Artisan (#21)

Dancing Israelis FBI document Section 3 - 1138796-001 --- 303A-NK- 105536 --- Section 3 (944880)

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war  posted on  2015-04-29   7:26:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: FormerLurker (#25) (Edited)

I love how he states that you can't get thru to the FBI or NYPD to verify that very report and then states that it comes from the NYPD who got it from the FBI...and you realize that talking head is neither FBI nor NYPD?

HILARIOUS...tell me again how you don't trust the MSM...

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-29   7:36:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: GreyLmist (#24) (Edited)

...held months ... for questioning ...

There are people at Gitmo who have done nothing and have been held for years...now who's taking the side of the government?

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-29   7:40:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Artisan (#21)

along with their smiling photos, and videos, and fake passports and cash. I tried to explain to you, they sued for these items back in federal court, but lost.

Had you actually read the FBI report then you'd have learned that the FBI actually tried to return those items to them...

And there weren't any fake passports...there was an expired passport or two and a legitimate passport issued by the German embassy in Tel Aviv.

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-29   9:35:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Artisan (#21) (Edited)

along with their smiling photos, and videos, and fake passports and cash. I tried to explain to you, they sued for these items back in federal court, but lost.

What does page 85 say?

Related article at http://tinyurl.com/FBI-Dancing- Israelis - Dancing Israelis FBI document Section 6 - 11...

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war  posted on  2015-04-29   10:04:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: war (#32) (Edited)

...held months ... for questioning ...

There are people at Gitmo who have done nothing and have been held for years...now who's taking the side of the government?

Which government-side are you taking by comparing the Dancing Israelis' "cell-block" time here to Gitmo? Not America's or New York's, seemingly. Israel's, maybe?

Edited sentence 1.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-04-29   10:35:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: GreyLmist (#35)

Which government's side are you taking this time by comparing the Dancing Israelis' "cell-block" time here to Gitmo? Not America's or New York's, seemingly. Israel's, maybe?

The truth has no government.

Why would the length of time that a rogue government, and make no mistake the US most certainly was behaving as a rogue in the aftermath of 9/11, have to do with the innocence or guilt of anyone?

That was my point...

Guiliani was a naked opportunist, collected money from the greed heads who couldn't wait for the dust to settle @ WTC before starting to rebuild while felating every mic he could find lamenting the loss that the city had suffered.

Israel is what it is...a money suck to us under, for reasons passing understanding, the guise of being an *ally*...

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-29   10:41:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: war (#36) (Edited)

The truth has no government.

Why would the length of time that a rogue government, and make no mistake the US most certainly was behaving as a rogue in the aftermath of 9/11, have to do with the innocence or guilt of anyone?

That was my point...

Guiliani was [...] opportunist, collected money from the greed heads who couldn't wait for the dust to settle @ WTC before starting to rebuild while [...] lamenting the loss that the city had suffered.

Israel is what it is...a money suck to us under, for reasons passing understanding, the guise of being an *ally*...

I probably could find an example of Muslims/Arabs being similarly detained at that time for an unconventionally prolonged Q&A period. Am even agreeable in so far as that in itself not being determinant of innocence or guilt. Your assertion at #33 that only one or two of their passports were expired rather does indicate, though, that their entire group was being held as possible 9/11 suspects for some reason or other -- not simply for questioning as Israeli "allies" or just because of immigration issues either. Since your last comment about Israel verily reinforces my procedural points per what you've descriptively sketched of their incarceration situation as akin to Gitmo-ish torment, how about you being agreeable, too, at least on this much?

Edited the quote section to add line 1 + for grammar, next to last sentence.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-04-29   12:26:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: GreyLmist (#37)

Your assertion at #33 that only one or two of their passports were expired rather does indicate, though, that their entire group was being held as possible 9/11 suspects for some reason or other...

...how about you being agreeable, too, at least on this much?

FWIW, I've never disputed that...

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-29   13:04:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: GreyLmist (#37)

...fwiw, also...I don't believe that all of the *ground* support given to the 9/11 hijackers within the US was ever ferreted out...

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-29   13:14:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: war (#39)

...fwiw, also...I don't believe that all of the *ground* support given to the 9/11 hijackers within the US was ever ferreted out...

I'd say "the alleged 9/11 hijackers" but "close enough for government work", you might say, to an agreement on that issue of suspect .gov-insider involvement to whatever extent. : )

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-04-29   13:33:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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