I'm not big on 'ambush journalism' and that's not what this was, but when a local KABC TV news crew interviewed me about a local jewelry store crash & grab heist near Los Angeles, I thought I'd have some fun with it. So after their interview I conducted a brief interview of my own, and asked the reporter if he ever heard of another group of bandits who were the only people arrested in New York City on September 11, 2001: The Dancing Israelis!
The ABC7 reporter was Q McCray; a nice professional gentleman. He's described on their website as "a general assignment reporter for ABC7 Eyewitness News." This question about the dancing Israelis was not to disparage him, but rather to illustrate two things: 1. that not many people may even know about these facts, including the people that the public supposedly gets its' important news from; and two, that we can keep these important issues in the public arena, even 14 years later.
"ABC's TV News Program 20/20 did an episode on the matter June 21, 2002,: "Five Israeli men arrested soon after 9/11 might have been working for Israeli intelligence, but likely did not know beforehand about the attacks". They also ran a news story titled The White Van. ABC's 20/20 interviewed a former CIA chief for the segment:
"Vince Cannistraro is a former chief of operations for counter-terrorism with the Central Intelligence Agency. Now he's a consultant with ABC News. He says many in the US intelligence community believe that some of the men arrested in the white van were in the US working for Israeli intelligence. They speculate that Urban Moving was being used by Israel as an intelligence front."
I suggest reading the entire transcript of the 20/20 segment because it is very interesting and gives a lot of details. The five Israelis were eventually released after lengthy interrogations: "Sources tell 20/20, after high-level negotiations between Israeli and US government officials, a settlement was worked out." [Article continues here...]
[Note that I do not actually talk so slow, (actually I'm a motormouth) but this was a deliberate ploy to draw the reporter in and get him interested in what I was trying to say- relating it to a robbery- and as you can see, it works like fish to bait. ;-) lol playing 'dumb' or innocent is a very effective way to disarm people.
Case in point is the cop interview I provided which totally debunks the interviewer's attempts at validating his debunked conspiracy theory...
The interview you posted, which I heard at afp probably years before you ever heard of the dancing israelis, is with the cop who arrested the israelis. Nothing he says debunks anyy facts of the case, in fact it only affirms them.
The cop is scared, which is why he admits he will never talk again about it & admits he does not know what happened to them after he arrested them.
It is public record though, since the fbi report was declassified along with the local police report. In addition, the federal lawsuit, although not available to the general public such as yourself, is readily available to anyone who knows how to access federal docket records. I've actually read it, & you're very degraded to try & deny any of the long admitted facts of this case.
They did have explosives material, boxcutters, fake passports, 5k cash, video and photos of them smiling in front of the towers. Their jew lawyer blamed immaturity. Abc played the clip where the israelis said they were there to document the event.
They later tried to sue the us gov and bureau of prisons and ashcroft for civil rightss abuses, but lost.
Any other questions you need answers to, so that your confusion may be lessened?
I heard of the Dancing Israeli's within a very short period of time around of 9/11. I would suggest that you re-read these reports...hopefully your grasp of English has improved since you last read them:
-No explosives -No video -No film of Towers before the attack
Big huge BS on the 1st item. "Tons of explosives" were found in one of their white vans on the onramp of the George Washington Bridge, as reported by various MSM outlets.
"Tons of explosives" were found in one of their white vans on the onramp of the George Washington Bridge, as reported by various MSM outlets.
...and then retracted...
QUESTION: Mayor, do you know anything about the report about the possible resources that they found in New Jersey?
GIULIANI: Yes. I think the Police Commissioner was able to get information about that.
BERNARD KERIK, NEW YORK CITY POLICE COMMISSIONER: I just got a confirmation from the Chief of Detectives, he's reach out to the FBI. They have confirmed that someone has been stopped in New Jersey, three men in a van. However, there was no explosives in the van. All right. They're being held for questioning.
QUESTION: Mayor, do you know anything about the report about the possible resources that they found in New Jersey?
GIULIANI: Yes. I think the Police Commissioner was able to get information about that.
BERNARD KERIK, NEW YORK CITY POLICE COMMISSIONER: I just got a confirmation from the Chief of Detectives, he's reach out to the FBI. They have confirmed that someone has been stopped in New Jersey, three men in a van. However, there was no explosives in the van. All right. They're being held for questioning.
"possible resources", as the "Questioner" farcically phrased it. LOL And, astonishingly, that's not even the most comical part of the above interviewing, which is that the official vouching that there weren't explosives in the van is NYPD Commissioner, Bernard Kerik (who was indicted, convicted and incarcerated soon after for ethics issues and such).
He was NYPD Commissioner for such a short while -- August 21, 2000 to December 31, 2001 --- that it's like he may have been planted in that office for 9/11 purposes. In 2003, GW Bush appointed him to be the Interim Minister of Interior for Iraq's Coalition Provisional Authority. He was in that office for about 3.5 months, supposedly to rebuild and train their Police departments but the results were questionable; and particularly so in regard to not coordinating enough with the Military, which risked our troops and his trainees being in a confused firefight because of his trainee-guys being unexpectedly mistaken as armed "insurgents". One might think that such managerial predicaments would have deterred Bush from trying to "kick him further upstairs" by nominating him soon afterwards to replace Tom Ridge as the Secretary of Homeland Security but it didn't. As we know, Kerik wasn't the DHS selectee and, as it consequently turned out, he encountered more scrutiny investigatively at that point. Lately, he's reportedly trying to reform the wrongs of our tyrannical crime and punishment system. "Good luck with that," I was taken aback to find myself thinking farfetchedly, villainous though he's been previously, because it definitely does need reforming.
Lately, he's reportedly trying to reform the wrongs of our tyrannical crime and punishment system. "Good luck with that," I was taken aback to find myself thinking farfetchedly, villainous though he's been previously, because it definitely does need reforming.
I think that I posted about his new book and perspective from lock-down; and I agree with your thoughts about him.
The criminal (in)justice system is completely broken.
Glad for the fringe-accompaniment of your opinions about it -- especially since the topic was posted on April Fools Day, which was sort of unsettling when I noticed that. My opinion, oddly enough, has been more along the lyrical "Time" line by Pink Floyd: "quiet desperation is the English way" -- and the way of some Americans too, perioddically, I guess re: the criminal (in)justice system debacles here.
Updates:
Bernard Kerik: "Investigation, federal indictment, imprisonment, and release" - Wikipedia excerpt of the last paragraph there
In his first public interview since being released from federal custody, Kerik spoke with Matt Lauer, of the Today Show, and called into question, mandatory minimum sentences which he said are not benefiting society. He authored a White Paper in 2011 that he sent to Attorney General Eric Holder, which outlines his personal observations of the U.S. criminal justice system that he said is in "dire need of repair." The attorney general's office has never acknowledged receipt of the white paper nor commented on this alleged submission.
Path for Kerik's 15-page pdf "White Paper" linked at that Wikipedia section:
U.S. CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM IN DIRE NEED OF REPAIR, By BERNARD B. KERIK http://www.thekerikgroup.com/uploads/2/3/6/2/23625642/whitepaperfinal.10.31.13.p df
While researching the Kerik issues, I thought you might be interested in this recent NewsmaxTV interview; critical of Al Sharpton and other Civil Rights spokespersons:
Fmr. Commissioner of the NYPD, Fmr. Interim Minister of Interior of Iraq, and Fmr. Senior Policy Advisor to the U.S. Presidential Envoy to Iraq joins Steve to discuss the shooting of two police officers in Ferguson, MO last night during protests.
Maybe there's not something strange about the lighting effects and lack thereof on the people's attire from that point at 2:20 to 2:40 but it seems to me that more than the Paramedics' jacket patches in that 20 second segment should be reflecting like neon clothing signs from the colorful red, white and blue emergency beam rotations. Specially designed material for EMS/Emergency Medical Services personnel, maybe, and others perhaps eventually.