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Title: NYPD Officer Shot in the Head Has Died
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URL Source: http://www.newsmax.com/US/US-NYPD-O ... 05042015&s=al&dkt_nbr=pj6aopzo
Published: May 4, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-05-05 17:24:06 by BTP Holdings
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NYPD Officer Shot in the Head Has Died

Image: NYPD Officer Shot in the Head Has Died New York City Police Officer Brian Moore. (Handout/New York City Police Department/Reuters)

Monday, 04 May 2015 12:47 PM

An NYPD officer who was shot in the head while sitting in an unmarked car has died, according to the New York Post.

The family of Officer Brian Moore decided to pull him off life support, the newspaper reported.

Moore was had been in a coma and "fighting for his life," District Attorney Richard Brown told The Associated Press on Sunday. Two days earlier, he was shot in the head in Queens while sitting in an unmarked car.

Moore underwent surgery for what court papers described as "severe injuries to his skull and brain."

The suspect accused in the shooting, Demetrius Blackwell, was ordered held without bail Sunday after appearing in Queens Criminal Court. He did not enter a plea to charges of attempted murder.

Prosecutors planned to present the case to a grand jury before Blackwell's next court appearance on Friday.

Blackwell's court-appointed lawyer, David Bart, said his client denied the charges, which also include assault and weapons offenses.

Police on Monday continued to search for the weapon.

"This was nothing more and nothing less than a cold-blooded attempt at an assassination of New York's finest," Assistant District Attorney Peter McCormack said.

McCormack said Moore and patrol partner Erik Jansen — both in plainclothes in an unmarked police car — approached Blackwell on a Queens street after seeing him tugging at his waistband around 6:15 p.m. Saturday and asked him "What are you carrying?"

The officers ordered Blackwell to stop and exchanged words with him. That's when Blackwell turned, the prosecutor said, and "in a vicious manner started to fire" — at least two shots.

Jansen was not hit and radioed for help.

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This is sad for sure, but it goes with the territory. Those guys take this risk every time they go on the street.

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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

PING!

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2015-05-05   17:24:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

This is sad for sure, but it goes with the territory. Those guys take this risk every time they go on the street.

True but rather cold way to view the death of another.

Of course the police were white, obvious racists, innocent black, obviously had right to take a life.

Some unbiased might raise the question, why are there no riots, no burning, no looting by enraged white mobs.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-05-05   17:59:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: BTP Holdings, Cynicom (#1)

Young kid meets rogue killer dark.

4um members deliberate as to which one is in the wrong.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-05-05   18:03:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

The suspect accused in the shooting, Demetrius Blackwell

I knew it! A damn Laplander....

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“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2015-05-05   18:08:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Jethro Tull (#3)

The lid is off, thrown away by the government and white Americans that pander to minorities.

When crunch time wakes up the whites, dont run here looking for refuge and sanctuary.

Long hot and fatal summer.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-05-05   18:13:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: X-15 (#4)

I knew it! A damn Laplander....

Yep, disadvantaged yout from Lapland, trying for a better life for his reindeer.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-05-05   18:16:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Cynicom (#5)

When the Baltimore Sympathizers get a close up look at the mutants who burn cities down, they'll be happy for any ally who stands with with them. Of course this is a general rule, crackpots need not apply.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-05-05   18:19:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Jethro Tull (#3)

I wonder what was the unit's assignment, and why did they engage this creature when undercover?

Thanks.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-05-05   18:23:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: BTP Holdings, All (#0)

This is sad for sure, but it goes with the territory. Those guys take this risk every time they go on the street.

The complete opposite seems to happen in this country with far more regularity.

Cops busting down wrong doors in "wrong door knocks," usually due to idiocy and negligence, cops beating, tazing, and sometimes shooting and killing people for which a mere verbal warning would have been more then enough, often over nothing even worthy of attention, cops using excessive force often terminally in other situations.

Correct, this comes with the territory, having your dog and/or family shot to death because a bunch of psychotic pinheads are too stupid to correctly identify an address properly, or due to a system that's overreacting to a victimless "crime," hardly comes with the territory. That's tyranny!

So do I have any pity? In contrast the cops do much more damage in this way than they sustain rendering the nation's largest criminal gang, so no, not really. Should we? Think about it, .... should we have pity? Don't know about this specific case, but waxing general, if the cops simply minded the business that the Constitution actually licenses them to do instead of executing every whim, desire, decree, and dicate of a corrupt tyranny, then perhaps these instances would not even happen.

So, tragedy is as tragedy does.

Katniss  posted on  2015-05-05   18:25:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

PS ... the last time I witnessed any significant event during which those that are in place to "serve and protect" the people at large, they stood by and allowed criminals and complete thugs to terrorize, beat, and otherwise brutalize, completely innocent and law-abiding people patronizing a local economy in Baltimore with those innocents having their lives risked by inaction on the parts of the likes of which died in this piece.

Again, should we feel pity when these thugs in blue merely do what a tyranny tells them to do while all but completely ignoring the Constitution in so many ways and by not protecting much less serving those that were not in a situation to do so themselves?

What, perhaps next time everyone going to a ballgame in such an arena should pack heat and handle the problem themselves. I'm two thumbs up on that!

Katniss  posted on  2015-05-05   18:28:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Katniss (#10)

It's a double-edge sword that's cutting both ways, with no sanity anywhere.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-05-05   18:31:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Lod (#8)

He was in what's called a street crime unit. It's plainclothes & this kid saw what he believed to be a gun in his waistband. As he approached, the mutant shot & subsequently killed him.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-05-05   18:35:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom (#5)

When crunch time wakes up the whites, dont run here looking for refuge and sanctuary.

They can stay the hell out of the Ozarks or face my killer pug. He just loves to crunch on all those east and west coast fairies fleeing the mess they made.

"Have Brain, Will Travel

Turtle  posted on  2015-05-05   18:35:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Turtle (#13)

They can stay the hell out of the Ozarks or face my killer pug. He just loves to crunch on all those east and west coast fairies fleeing the mess they made.

Here we are 99 per cent white, that means shoot on sight would be a sure thing.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-05-05   18:39:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Jethro Tull (#7)

When the Baltimore Sympathizers get a close up look at the mutants who burn cities down, they'll be happy for any ally who stands with with them.

Yeah, they put a lid on that shit right quick in Houston.

There'd be a one-way ticket here for Mr. Demetrius in return for a dead-to- rights, open-and-shut case of homicide in the streets.

I'm very sad for the officer and his family.

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2015-05-05   18:42:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Katniss (#9)

Correct, this comes with the territory, having your dog and/or family shot to death because a bunch of psychotic pinheads are too stupid to correctly identify an address properly, or due to a system that's overreacting to a victimless "crime," hardly comes with the territory. That's tyranny!

I think YouTube does a good job ID'ing incompetents and exposing them. I wish it were as easy to shine the light on slimy government bureaucrats. Those faceless, gutless desk jockeys wreak far more damage to our nation.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-05-05   18:43:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: randge (#15)

Yeah, they put a lid on that shit right quick in Houston.

Texas earned it's reputation this week. Well done, boys.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-05-05   18:45:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: randge, Jethro Tull (#15)

Before Baltimore was burned the first time, I tried to persuade older friends to move away. Anyone could see what was coming.

I finally prevailed when I bluntly told the lady that there was good possibility the next break in, could involve her person, not their money or whatever.

That got thru and they moved way out of town.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-05-05   18:48:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Jethro Tull (#12)

Thanks, sad, sad, situation.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-05-05   18:49:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Cynicom, 4 (#18)

Baltimore: 50-years of unchallenged Democrat corruption culminating in an unqualified Negro political hierarchy that literally burnt the city down.

We have hit bottom.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-05-05   18:52:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Lod (#19)

Thanks, sad, sad, situation.

Beyond that it is a human disaster in the making.

Years ago Fed and State government said that in case of "national emergency" our county would receive 100,000 inner city "victims" to house and feed.

We have only 50,000 people in our county.

One has only do the math to see who we would get.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-05-05   18:57:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Cynicom (#21)

Should it come to that, fedgov's FEMA camps would be the place to house, feed, and cloth those victims.

The rest of the country is stone-cold broke.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-05-05   19:18:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Katniss (#9)

The complete opposite seems to happen in this country with far more regularity.

Well said, Katniss. And might I add that before they even kick in your door, these days they might just lob a grenade or two through the bedroom window? And if it lands in an infant's crib and blasts him to pieces while permanently deafening everyone else in the house, well, that's just the price we all have to pay for our "heroes" keeping us safe. Officer safety is paramount, you know; they want to go home at the end of the day; they stand in harm's way for us; ad nauseam.

You'll never hear of an engineer killer or a machinist killer or a piano teacher killer. But "cop killer" has been hammered in to the lexicon. We're all supposed to believe that killing a cop is the ultimate malefaction -- far worse than simply killing a couple of grandmothers.

StraitGate  posted on  2015-05-05   21:27:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: StraitGate (#23)

And might I add that before they even kick in your door, these days they might just lob a grenade or two through the bedroom window?

That would have worked well in Baltimore against the nigger scum I saw in the street.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-05-05   21:33:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: StraitGate (#23)

Yep, and cops kill many, many, many more citizens than vice versa.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-05-05   21:37:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Jethro Tull (#24) (Edited)

It will be interesting to see the fall-out, if any, of the stand-down order given to the BPD.

That was the most criminally idiotic order that I've ever witnessed.

Shouldn't all damaged/injured parties file suit against dear mayorette for her willful calling off their tax dollar paid-for protection?

Just thinking...

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-05-05   21:41:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Lod (#25)

Yep, and cops kill many, many, many more citizens than vice versa.

The job description places them at the scenes of many, many, many crimes facing many, many, many felons, nuts & other assorted malcontents.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-05-05   21:48:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Lod (#11)

It's a double-edge sword that's cutting both ways, with no sanity anywhere.

This world is becoming more mental by the week now.

Katniss  posted on  2015-05-05   21:53:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Lod (#26)

That was the most criminally idiotic order that I've ever witnessed.

Shouldn't all damaged/injured parties file suit against dear mayorette for her willful calling off their tax dollar paid-for protection?

I've never seen anything like it and I'd bet the Mayor and her subordinate 'nogs have civil immunity to suits. The long-term effect to Baltimore is that it's now the new Watts. Watts has never recovered from Rodney King and neither will Baltimore. I'd bet the Orioles & Ravens franchises depreciated 20% overnight.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-05-05   21:53:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Jethro Tull (#16)

I think YouTube does a good job ID'ing incompetents and exposing them. I wish it were as easy to shine the light on slimy government bureaucrats. Those faceless, gutless desk jockeys wreak far more damage to our nation.

They're all part-and-parcel of the same filthy beast.

Some are cunning and coniving while others are too stupid to get out of their own way. The less intelligent ones become the physical tools of the cunning.

Katniss  posted on  2015-05-05   21:56:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Jethro Tull (#27)

We have no police. Closest is State Police 20 miles away.

How is this possible?

It has a great deal to do with the populace.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-05-05   21:57:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: StraitGate (#23)

Well said, Katniss. And might I add that before they even kick in your door, these days they might just lob a grenade or two through the bedroom window? And if it lands in an infant's crib and blasts him to pieces while permanently deafening everyone else in the house, well, that's just the price we all have to pay for our "heroes" keeping us safe. Officer safety is paramount, you know; they want to go home at the end of the day; they stand in harm's way for us; ad nauseam.

You'll never hear of an engineer killer or a machinist killer or a piano teacher killer. But "cop killer" has been hammered in to the lexicon. We're all supposed to believe that killing a cop is the ultimate malefaction -- far worse than simply killing a couple of grandmothers.

Yup!

Katniss  posted on  2015-05-05   21:57:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Katniss (#30)

The less intelligent ones become the physical tools of the cunning.

The most illiterate THUG has something the cunning will never have; street smarts. It's easily dismissed by the arrogant but not me.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-05-05   21:59:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Cynicom (#31)

We have no police. Closest is State Police 20 miles away.

How is this possible?

It has a great deal to do with the populace.

Same here.

Some folks whine about being protected & served, but that all changed thanks to the Supremes in 2005. And just as well for my taste. I have some free advice. Protect yourself and don’t expect service from anyone but a prostitute.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-05-05   22:02:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Jethro Tull (#33)

By extension of illogical thinking by our friends, it would stand to reason that we hire only men with criminal records to police society.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-05-05   22:08:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Jethro Tull (#34)

No country in the world is without police, even the Vatican has the Swiss Guards to police ner do wells.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-05-05   22:27:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Cynicom (#36)

I was in and out before many on this board were born so we need to keep that in mind.

The job still comes down to the word NO. In every ghetto in America the youts have never paid attention to the word NO. Papa is a welfare check so when Mama says NO they laugh. When the teacher says NO they throw a chair in his/her direction. When a cop says NO, that tactic doesn't work, hence their confusion and subsequent chimping out.

Some things don't change.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-05-05   22:40:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Katniss (#9)

if the cops simply minded the business that the Constitution actually licenses them to do instead of executing every whim, desire, decree, and dicate of a corrupt tyranny, then perhaps these instances would not even happen.

Whatever.

scrapper2  posted on  2015-05-06   3:03:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Jethro Tull (#37) (Edited)

I was in and out before many on this board were born so we need to keep that in mind.

In and out of where, Jethro -- or what?

Watts never recovered from 1965, huh.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-05-06   3:36:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Jethro Tull (#37)

When the teacher says NO they throw a chair in his/her direction.

Glad you mentioned that.

In 1960, daughter turned six, due for school. NYC was discussing putting guards in elementary schools...to protect the teachers from the students...

We decided that was not a proper setting for any child.

So I transferred out to a dead end job and never looked back.

Been living here in these hills now for 55 years. Dont lock my doors, not afraid to go out, day or night. No police..

If one lives in a zoo, they need a zoo keeper to maintain order.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-05-06   4:14:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

So someone got shot. It happens every day so what is so special about a cop that he should be news and not the others?

DWornock  posted on  2015-05-06   6:54:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: DWornock (#41)

what is so special about a cop that he should be news and not the others?

He put himself between an already convicted murdered & the public, something blowhards haven't the balls to do.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-05-06   9:30:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Jethro Tull (#42)

Excellent point. Despite our valid complaints, we must remember who everybody calls when the chips are down, who's putting their lives on the line every day for us, without whom life would be dramatically different.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-05-06   9:32:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: DWornock (#41)

So someone got shot. It happens every day so what is so special about a cop that he should be news and not the others?

That speaks volumes.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-05-06   9:51:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Jethro Tull (#33)

The most illiterate THUG has something the cunning will never have; street smarts. It's easily dismissed by the arrogant but not me.

Perhaps, but the boys from the hood have street smarts too, so in and of itself it's useless. When put to the wrong uses it's entirely detrimental, dangerous to the public and We the people ...

I think you've leapfrogged the main point here.

Katniss  posted on  2015-05-06   12:25:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: scrapper2, All (#38)

Whatever.

It's a little more than "whatever."

Without a willing populace accomplice, tryanny as we're now seeing it not possible.

It takes a whole lot of people that willingly work for the government in the most immoral agencies and departments, it takes a whole lot of people willingly working for the MIC that forge the weapons that will one day ultimately suppress them, it takes a whole lot of people to willingly work in the military and LE that oppress others in the name of "law," it takes a whole lot of people willingly willingly teaching propaganda to the public and to our children in the public and even some private schools, it takes a whole lot of people to willingly work for the "news" networks and mainstream newspapers to assist in propagandizing everyone, etc.

These people are among the best paid in the country right now admidst a struggling economy otherwise.

Americans worship at the Altar of Mammon and have sold their souls and morality for wealth. Soon many will have neither wealth nor liberty.

I don't think that's a simple "whatever."

Katniss  posted on  2015-05-06   12:31:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Katniss (#46)

Americans worship at the Altar of Mammon and have sold their souls and morality for wealth. Soon many will have neither wealth nor liberty.

I don't think that's a simple "whatever.

Yes, whatever is a perfect response to your tired bloviation.

What's your point? Do you think you've got Truth by the tail?

I've got some real news for you - listen up! - every single person on this planet wants and needs money to survive. Americans simply have more of it. That's why every Third World immigrant tries to come here. Good morals and ethics are not worth a hill of beans if you are poor and live in South Africa or Brazil or Iraq or the like. And another thing please be advised that American taxpayer wealth/ Mammon is spread to every nation and continent because otherwise Africa, South America, Central America, much of Asia would fall into themselves and people there would die of starvation or mutual destruction.

America's wealth, the First World's wealth keeps 2/3 of this planet's inhabitants alive. You want to exercise your anti-$ inclinations? There are flights going out to poor Third World nations every day. Please donate your hateful Mammon $ to widows and children of police killed in action before you leave. You won't need $ where you are going, right?

scrapper2  posted on  2015-05-06   16:22:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: DWornock (#41)

So someone got shot. It happens every day

In Chicago, the shootings are mainly black on black, and either drug or gang related. This I know from my sister telling me. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2015-05-06   16:48:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Jethro Tull (#3)

Young kid meets rogue killer dark.

4um members deliberate as to which one is in the wrong.

You got it right. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2015-05-06   16:50:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Katniss, Jethro Tull (#9)

cops beating, tazing, and sometimes shooting and killing people for which a mere verbal warning would have been more then enough,

When I was a kid in Chicago hanging around in the 'hood, a cop would pull up and call over the oldest looking one in the crowd to the squad car. Then, behind the open door of the squad, he would start talking, and at the same time give the guy a few quick jabs in the gut. It worked like a charm, and the kids dispersed rather quickly. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2015-05-06   16:54:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: scrapper2 (#47)

Yes, whatever is a perfect response to your tired bloviation.

Bravo bravo...

Cynicom  posted on  2015-05-06   16:56:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: scrapper2 (#47) (Edited)

Yes, whatever is a perfect response to your tired bloviation.

What's your point? Do you think you've got Truth by the tail?

I've got some real news for you - listen up! - every single person on this planet wants and needs money to survive. Americans simply have more of it. That's why every Third World immigrant tries to come here. Good morals and ethics are not worth a hill of beans if you are poor and live in South Africa or Brazil or Iraq or the like. And another thing please be advised that American taxpayer wealth/ Mammon is spread to every nation and continent because otherwise Africa, South America, Central America, much of Asia would fall into themselves and people there would die of starvation or mutual destruction.

America's wealth, the First World's wealth keeps 2/3 of this planet's inhabitants alive. You want to exercise your anti-$ inclinations? There are flights going out to poor Third World nations every day. Please donate your hateful Mammon $ to widows and children of police killed in action before you leave. You won't need $ where you are going, right?

Man you're deluded!

If you're too stupid to see that sacrificing morality for purposes of material gain (aka the focus on the endless quest for mammon), is nothing but a downward spiraling proposition, then sorry, I simply don't know what to say to you.

That statement was like something spewed directly off of one of the major "news" networks.

When people here cannot even see that then it's a real reality check.

And if you think that the only way for society to exist is to exactly participate in the furtherance of a tyrannical government, then just STFU, quit complaining about anything altogether, and just tell yourself that whatever shithole our society devolves to, A, you've earned, and B, has no solution and therefore isn't worth discussing, and then don't waste your time here.

Sad that you don't know, and who knows, perhaps you're an atheist as you sure sound like one by your reasoning, but the majority of people in this nation, its fabric, turned their backs on the Living God long ago! That's the core problem which has resulted in all of the good immoralistic attributes of our modern day marvelous nation.

So run off now and go cite the Pledge of Allegiance and sing the Star Spangled Banner but just don't say a f'ing word when you are finally the direct target of those doing the same.

Either you're stupid or just tremendously short-sighted and grandly ignorant. .

Katniss  posted on  2015-05-06   20:11:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Katniss (#52)

Either you're stupid or just tremendously short-sighted and grandly ignorant. .

I worry that you may stroke out, so I'll go back to my short and sweet and calming response to your pompous first post: whatever.

scrapper2  posted on  2015-05-06   21:57:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: scrapper2 (#53) (Edited)

My dad once told me, "I don't get angry after you do something stupid, I only get angry before you do something stupid."

I guess I initially and mistakenly thought that there was some hope and that perhaps you really weren't that dense. Apparently that's not the case.

Yeah, seems to be a pretty pat reply for someone ignorant of the root reasons for things.

Then again, when you're out of ammo ...

Katniss  posted on  2015-05-07   0:06:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Katniss (#54)

when you're out of ammo...

I would never be in that position. My house is alarmed. My next door neighbors are armed to the teeth legally of course. Police are 3 minutes away.

Utopia is not planet earth. Imagine is a song. I live Life as it is, not how others wish Life would be.

scrapper2  posted on  2015-05-07   0:54:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Jethro Tull (#29)

Watts has never recovered from Rodney King and neither will Baltimore.

Actually the watts riots were in 1965 and while similar, were a different occurrence than the LA rodney king riots of 1991.

Growing up I heard that there were signs in watts urging people to move to the LA suburbs, which thereafter became quickly darker.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-05-07   1:39:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Jethro Tull (#29)

Watts has never recovered from Rodney King...

Watts, while a section of South Central LA, is not where the King riots were...and there was never anything there to recover...

--Perfecting Obscurity Since 1958...

war  posted on  2015-05-07   8:36:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Artisan (#56)

Actually the watts riots were in 1965 and while similar, were a different occurrence than the LA rodney king riots of 1991.

You're right. Riots are meshing together as I age :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-05-07   9:12:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Jethro Tull, 4 (#58)

You're right. Riots are meshing together as I age.

Amen.

The riots, the chimp-outs; if you've seen one, you've seen'em all. The same script, the same actors, the same results.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-05-07   9:29:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: NeoconsNailed (#43)

Excellent point. Despite our valid complaints, we must remember who everybody calls when the chips are down, who's putting their lives on the line every day for us, without whom life would be dramatically different.

Are you being sarcastic again, or have you gone Stockholm on us now?

Very few cops actually put their lives on the line every day for us; most spend their days generating revenue for their and our masters, and feeding the Prison Industrial Complex.

Law enforcement is always absent on any list of the most dangerous jobs. My brother is a roofer (#4 on the list below); he puts his life on the line for us every day more so than the average cop. But nobody lauds my brother as a hero for that.

The 10 Deadliest Jobs In America:

http://www.businessinsider.com/most-dangerous-jobs-in-america-2014-12

StraitGate  posted on  2015-05-07   9:45:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: DWornock (#41)

So someone got shot. It happens every day so what is so special about a cop that he should be news and not the others?

Cops are special because they work for the government. And government is the fount of all blessing, security, prosperity, and health. Therefore the life of a government agent is worth infinitely more than your life or mine, or that of your sister or my mother.

StraitGate  posted on  2015-05-07   9:53:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: StraitGate (#60)

Law enforcement is always absent on any list of the most dangerous jobs. My brother is a roofer (#4 on the list below); he puts his life on the line for us every day more so than the average cop. But nobody lauds my brother as a hero for that.

That would be a minority opinion.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-05-07   9:56:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: StraitGate, 4 (#60)

facts on amerika's most dangerous jobs -

www.businessinsider.com/m...s-jobs-in-america-2014-12

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-05-07   10:00:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: StraitGate (#60)

Man was never meant to live more than one story up, Strait. There are no skyscrapers in the Bible.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-05-07   10:13:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: NeoconsNailed (#64)

Remember the Tower of Babel and how things went there.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-05-07   10:29:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: scrapper2 (#55)

I would never be in that position. My house is alarmed. My next door neighbors are armed to the teeth legally of course. Police are 3 minutes away.

Utopia is not planet earth. Imagine is a song. I live Life as it is, not how others wish Life would be.

That statement makes perfect sense in the course of our interaction.

You are among those for whom life revolves around themselves as the center of the universe. It's at the root of all that's wrong in our nation and society.

Again, it's all coming to light now.

Katniss  posted on  2015-05-07   12:06:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Katniss (#66)

You are among those for whom life revolves around themselves as the center of the universe.

Shorts in a twist 'cause I played Stan to your Hardy and I blew off your Philosopher King pronouncements?

Chill out. You're not saying anything new that I haven't thought myself or heard from others before.

This nation is fudged.

But the line that still remains between anarchy and civility imho is held by the local men in blue. Some are corrupt. Some are lazy. But the majority are true to the badge they wear to serve and protect. My personal experience is with the majority. I trust my local police officers 1000 times more than some yahoo on the net whining about how roofers jobs are more dangerous than that of police officers. Roofers don't stop collateral damage dribbling over to adjacent law abiding CA communities next to to Riverside, East LA, or Salinas, or East Palo Alto, or Oakland.

I live and travel in a state that's one of the most populous, most dangerous, and safest in the USA. Safest designation does not come out of thin air. So I thank the police officers who make safe happen and I am saddened when a police officer loses his life while on duty due to a piece of garbage.

scrapper2  posted on  2015-05-07   23:09:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: scrapper2, All (#67) (Edited)

I trust my local police officers 1000 times more than some yahoo on the net whining about how roofers jobs are more dangerous than that of police officers.

Well, as formerly implied, your ignorance of the thousands of reports and videos of psychotic behavior of those same men in blue precedes you.

Many have the same view of the our service members, most of whom as individuals are probably very nice, however in their collective role they produce a globalized psychotic mob that terrorizes huge parts of the globe, randomly, according to the anti-Christian establishment that dictates their orders.

Yet, the vast majority of Americans actually thank them for the group psychotic behavior and deaths of innocents worldwide.

Here's the thing scrapper, where are all of these good men when the rest happens?

Huh?

You ignorantly said this, a tiresome, cliche'd, and braindead statement;

But the majority are true to the badge they wear to serve and protect.

Really? They're true to the Constitution are they?

So why do they enforce, friendly or not, unconstitutional laws? Hmm? Let's see if your emotionally oriented brain can wrap its one demented arm around that one.

And if they're so loyal and true to that badge, which bears an oath that pledges loyalty to that very Constitution, where's the outcry, both from superiors running departments as well as from all of these peers of those that behave like psychotic beasts?

Ignorance is no excuse. Simply because you may not be aware of the scores if not hundreds, perhaps even thousands of misuses and abuses of authority daily on the parts of those you prefer to praise, does not render them as not having happened. Sorry, that's a fact.

So where's the outcry? Where are the denouncements by entire departments and other local cops? Hmm?

Where are the good ones that you talk about insisting that the others stop beating someone or stomping on their head? Oh yeah, that's right, they're behind them watching.

What ever happened to the old saying "not saying 'no' is just like saying 'yes'" when applied to your heroes?

Got it.

So yeah, they're protecting and serving alright, each other and the immoral and anti-Christian governments that pay their wages. They can't possibly be serving anyone else if they ignore the Constitution as they do. Oh yeah, I know, it's all legal. Unfortunately Constitutional and "legal" aren't always the same. Neither are moral and "legal." But hey, who said that America is a moral nation any longer. That ship sailed long ago there toots! You seem to disagree with that.

You're a fool scrapper, a real fool.

No doubt you live in some rural area too. I just love it when people talk about how their local police department of 10 people are good. It's a real laugh riot.

Yeah, maybe if we all lived in towns with populations of 1,000 none of this would exist. Then again, perhaps if the world was made of chocolate ...

Here's what I don't trust, buffoons on the internet that spout the party line and ignore reality in creating a little world view of their own because it suits their personal emotional state, one that seems imbalanced to begin with.

Katniss  posted on  2015-05-08   10:25:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Katniss (#68)

It's no use arguing this any further. Surely everybody here knows both the good and bad ends of the police equation. It's certainly not either-or or a good reason for strife.

Not everything's black or white, gang. It's only a partly dualist universe!

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-05-08   10:32:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: NeoconsNailed (#69)

Oh, IMO this issue is clearly black and white.

I'll disagree as well that everyone here knows the good and bad ends of the police equation.

For the record, I don't see much of a good end these days. If there is, it's silent, which is clearly indicative that it's nowhere close to being dominant or even balancing.

As with anything police, IMO it all boils down to the "luck of the draw" in terms of simply not being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I don't think that too many people trust the police as they once did, even people that back LE otherwise. I hear a lot of people saying the same thing to their families and kids, steer clear of them.

People like scrapper and war are clearly two that do not understand the good and bad ends. There are good ones, but not nearly enough of them to shed the image of overall being an organization to be more wary of than trusting of.

The bad ones are dominating their departments and the adminstrations are defending the bad ones, which makes them bad implicitly if they're not directly bad. We simply cannot claim that good cops defend bad behavior and immoral police activity. That's illogical.

Katniss  posted on  2015-05-08   11:54:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Katniss (#70)

I'll disagree as well that everyone here knows the good and bad ends of the police equation.

Sadly, many people are simply insusceptible to any truth that they find unpleasant; one that conflicts with what they wish were true. As Patrick Henry said, "We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth..."

They remain impervious to that unpleasant truth until they are personally affected by it.

A man sees no problem with massive 3rd world immigration until he loses his own job to an illegal immigrant. That his next door neighbor and 20 million other Americans already lost their jobs (and the ones fortunate enough to still have jobs have seen their wages driven ever downward by the vast number of illegals in the job market) didn't seem to bother him.

A man says, "Nobody needs to carry a handgun (except cops, of course)", until his own wife is forcibly raped.

Similarly, someone who continues to indulge in the hopeful illusion that most cops are good cops, that the few bad cops make the many good ones look bad, etc. will never change his mind until he or one of his own family members has his life ruined by one or more of the "bad" cops, while all the supposedly good cops LIE LIE LIE to cover up for their errant brothers in blue.

Trying to prove that the law enforcement industry is, in the main, almost totally corrupt, is like trying to prove that water is wet.

StraitGate  posted on  2015-05-08   14:05:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: StraitGate (#71)

Nicely and accurately stated.

Unfortunately we have some resident apologists in that way.

Where it loses me is when people pick and choose which parts of the establishment they deem to be sick instead of recognizing that the entire beast is morally not well. This only serves to divide the populace and place blame for it on "the other half" thereby merely falsely displacing blame on elements that are the least directly at fault.

Lots of that going on here as well. There didn't used to seem to be.

Katniss  posted on  2015-05-08   14:11:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Katniss, Jethro Tull (#72)

Where it loses me is when people pick and choose which parts of the establishment they deem to be sick instead of recognizing that the entire beast is morally not well. This only serves to divide the populace and place blame for it on "the other half" thereby merely falsely displacing blame on elements that are the least directly at fault.

We are looking for someone to lead the parade.

Someone that is willing to stand up, sound off that they will no longer vote nor pay any tax to this government.

So far there are many talkers but no one willing to walk the way they talk.

Perhaps there is someone here on 4um that is willing to make a public stand? Any volunteers?????

Cynicom  posted on  2015-05-08   14:18:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Cynicom (#73)

So far there are many talkers but no one willing to walk the way they talk.

How can you can know that?

StraitGate  posted on  2015-05-08   14:27:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: StraitGate (#74)

How can you can know that?

Deduction my friend.

If they are hear pontificating, that means they are NOT in Federal prison for non payment of taxes.

Ergo, they talk the cheap talk.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-05-08   14:30:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Cynicom (#73)

nor pay any tax to this government

Nice!

With this particular batch of loud mouths, I'd add another specification: "nor receive any $ from the government."

scrapper2  posted on  2015-05-08   14:34:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: scrapper2, Cynicom (#76)

I'd add another specification: "nor receive any $ from the government."

To my knowledge there is exactly one person on the board who walks that walk, with the most chatty windbag being one who shakes his fist at government with one hand while cashing a check from it with the other.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-05-08   14:39:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: scrapper2 (#76)

With this particular batch of loud mouths, I'd add another specification: "nor receive any $ from the government."

I pay all my taxes for one reason, I am a coward.

Therefore I encourage non cowards here to walk the walk, proclaim their right to liberty, not one farthing for tribute.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-05-08   14:42:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Cynicom (#78)

I pay all my taxes for one reason, I am a coward.

Same here. Some members of this board could go into detail how their effort to resist went, but needless to say it usually doesn't end well if one has "stuff" to lose.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-05-08   14:49:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Jethro Tull, Scrapper (#77)

I recall when the government hauled my sorry being off to war, then they had a temerity to send me a tax bill.

Being the coward I am, I paid my tax and did my time.

Wish I had the bravado of our enlightened talkers residing here.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-05-08   14:50:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Cynicom (#80)

Wish I had the bravado of our enlightened talkers residing here.

To avoid paying taxes all you have to do is declare yourself a sovereign citizen, spell your name in all capital letters and tell the presiding judge that he is illegitimate because an American flag with gold trim is sitting behind him.

It works like a charm, or so I am told.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-05-08   14:56:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Jethro Tull (#79)

""""April is always a busy month with the tax deadline on April 15, but this year’s haul was historic, totaling $472 billion, far outstripping the previous monthly record, set last April, of $414 billion.""""

I suspect most of our anarchist friends here at 4um paid their taxes, like good little citizens.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-05-08   14:58:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Cynicom (#82)

I suspect most of our anarchist friends here at 4um paid their taxes, like good little citizens

Indeed, but they remain windy despite the rank hypocrisy.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-05-08   15:02:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Jethro Tull (#81)

It works like a charm, or so I am told.

ROFL! Stop it, JT. You're killing me! yuck, yuck...

scrapper2  posted on  2015-05-08   15:09:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Jethro Tull (#83)

Indeed, but they remain windy despite the rank hypocrisy.

They remind me of big city denizens, midnight basketball organizers, those that voted for the current black loser.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-05-08   15:10:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Cynicom (#78) (Edited)

We seem to be descending into an abyss here. Do people need to get up off the computer for some fresh air, hmm?

Just to show you what a cowardly anonymous windbag you are, Cyni -- your term -- I don't get a government check, don't pay any income taxes OR anybody to rig my books that way, and don't vote. (Now that you've shot your own credibility so enthusiastically, BTW, what's the point of going logorrheically on?) There are lots of people like who can say the same. But I can tell you one thing I know personally, when a liberator arises he gets virtually no support from the sheeple.

Such leadership requires full-time work, but nobody pledges even $10 a week to him much less the thousands he deserves. When he goes to court, people like you folks don't back him up by filling the courthouse. Once he's in the brig you don't write him, offer help or support his family.

amerika gets the government it deserves -- and the salvation from among its own ranks. "Trying to organize conservatives is like herding cats"... why do they look like hyenas so much of the time?

What may I ask is the point of insulting and bickering with people you'll never meet here and calling them names, gang? We can get the job done without it. We usually do.

No, I don't profess to be one of the leaders I'm describing. I mean the national names who walk the walk no matter what it costs them personally (usually plenty).

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-05-08   15:24:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Cynicom (#75)

>>How can you can know that?

Deduction my friend.

If they are hear pontificating, that means they are NOT in Federal prison for non payment of taxes.

That's interesting. Thanks for the reply.

It's probably true that anyone who is posting here is not in federal prison for nonpayment of taxes, but that doesn't mean that everyone who doesn't pay taxes is necessarily in federal prison. I don't have a link, but I think the IRS itself has admitted that there are a large number of (still unimprisoned) people who do not pay federal taxes despite the government's contention that they are liable to do so.

Do you draw the line at nonpayment of federal income taxes as the sole qualifier for "walking the talk" status, or do you also include refusing to pay all of the other federal taxes such as those on gasoline, beer, wine, & liquor, tobacco, cell phone, air transportation, guns & ammo, etc.?

Just curious.

StraitGate  posted on  2015-05-08   15:44:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: StraitGate (#87)

the IRS itself has admitted that there are a large number of (still unimprisoned) people who do not pay federal taxes despite the government's contention that they are liable to do so.

Yep, and that number includes most of Obama's staff and advisers.

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus

Dakmar  posted on  2015-05-08   15:50:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: StraitGate (#87)

Do you draw the line at nonpayment of federal income taxes as the sole qualifier for "walking the talk" status,

Good heavens no...

Walk the walk at its highest would be any elected congress person to stand on the Floor, denounce the this government as corrupt, name names, resign his seat and walk out.

Such is walking the walk.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-05-08   15:53:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: StraitGate (#87)

I don't have a link, but I think the IRS itself has admitted that there are a large number of (still unimprisoned) people who do not pay federal taxes despite the government's contention that they are liable to do so.

[Snip]

>> Over 10 years, the IRS identified nearly 130,000 suspected cases of tax violations by its own employees.

>>IRS concluded about 10 percent were actual violations.

>> Of 13,000 cases, 1,580 were intentional cheaters.

>> But the managers refused to fire the employees 61% of the time.

>> More than 2,000 employees had multiple red flags during the decade.

>> Investigators pulled a sample of 15 cases where an employee had repeated intentional violations, and found that even there, the majority were allowed to remain on the job.

Source: www.forbes.com/sites/robe...t-fired-may-get-promoted/

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-05-08   15:57:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Fred Mertz (#90)

Amazing info, thanks.

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus

Dakmar  posted on  2015-05-08   16:10:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Cynicom (#89)

My question was pretty specific, and I don't think you answered it:

Do you draw the line at nonpayment of federal income taxes as the sole qualifier for "walking the talk" status, or do you also include refusing to pay all of the other federal taxes such as those on gasoline, beer, wine, & liquor, tobacco, cell phone, air transportation, guns & ammo, etc.?

So, in your book, anyone who pays any of these other federal taxes isn't "walking the walk". Is that right?

StraitGate  posted on  2015-05-08   16:24:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: StraitGate (#92)

Do you draw the line at nonpayment of federal income taxes as the sole qualifier for "walking the talk" status,

.......Good heavens no...

Cynicom  posted on  2015-05-08   16:28:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: StraitGate (#92)

Do you draw the line at nonpayment of federal income taxes as the sole qualifier for "walking the talk" status, or do you also include refusing to pay all of the other federal taxes such as those on gasoline, beer, wine, & liquor, tobacco, cell phone, air transportation, guns & ammo, etc.?

The system is rigged in nearly every example you list. You have to pay it.

OTOH, if you are self-employed then federal taxes are a different story. Cash on the barrel, under the table labor, etc.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-05-08   16:28:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Fred Mertz (#94)

The system is rigged in nearly every example you list. You have to pay it.

Yes, that was the point I was trying to make. You either pay it, or the quality of your life will be seriously diminished. As will your usefulness to family and friends.

The only way to completely avoid financing the US government would be to leave the country and never come back (even then the IRS might mercilessly hound you forever). I have a friend who has done that, and it has cost him much in many ways, especially with respect to personal relationships.

StraitGate  posted on  2015-05-08   16:52:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Cynicom (#93)

So, in your book, anyone who pays any of these other federal taxes isn't "walking the walk". Is that right?

StraitGate  posted on  2015-05-08   16:58:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: StraitGate (#95)

I have a friend who has done that, and it has cost him much in many ways, especially with respect to personal relationships.

You should be happy for him - he no longer has to deal with evil US police officers, right.

scrapper2  posted on  2015-05-08   16:59:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: StraitGate (#96)

So, in your book, anyone who pays any of these other federal taxes isn't "walking the walk". Is that right?

There was a question.

NO...was the answer.

Needs no elaboration.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-05-08   17:06:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Cynicom (#73)

Perhaps there is someone here on 4um that is willing to make a public stand? Any volunteers?????

I think that myself and my family are doing just about everything possible. It's cost us dearly financially Cyni. I don't preach anything that I cannot back up with action.

Some things just wind you up in jail. I've already instructed my bookkeeper that I'm not paying any fine for not having Obamacare. How many are doing that? I doubt that it'll be avoidable since they would take it from any refund anyway, hopefully there won't be one, that's always my goal.

Armed resistance is a fool's game at this point. Once TSHTF it's going to be a relative free-for-all.

The bottom line is that without truth and good info, people are going to make errant decisions. That's unavoidable. The question is why are they ignorant in that way? The reasons for it are not going to change. The populace has chosen freely to clutter their minds with establishment garbage, either in the form of entertainment or what they call "news."

There's not even setting an example because people would rather have wealth than to make the sacrifices required of them to do the things that would prevent this moral freefall of society.

It's all about choices Cyni, and people have such a short horizon for determining what those choices will be in light of the short, medium, and long range impact of those choices. The short-term impact is always front and center. That's the one that appeals to mankind's basest instincts and most immediate desires. It's unfortunate, but that's never going to change.

Katniss  posted on  2015-05-09   1:18:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Katniss (#99)

The question is why are they ignorant in that way? The reasons for it are not going to change. The populace has chosen freely to clutter their minds with establishment garbage, either in the form of entertainment or what they call "news."

I celebrate multicultural diversity every waking moment. What makes me do this? How can I stop?

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus

Dakmar  posted on  2015-05-09   1:22:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Katniss (#99)

I already covered all that and everybody ran right past it.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-05-09   1:27:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Dakmar (#100)

I celebrate multicultural diversity every waking moment. What makes me do this? How can I stop?

What do you mean?

Katniss  posted on  2015-05-09   1:35:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: NeoconsNailed (#101)

I already covered all that and everybody ran right past it.

Yeah, I know. A good half of the people posting here, or so, don't seem to be able to reason much beyond the superficiality of their posts.

The other day a thread went up blaming the puritans for the demise of our nation over the long haul. But wait, I thought it was the Jews. Ah well. LOL

Flavor du jour.

There's a sizeable number of people here that hate anything Christian. This befuddles me.

Katniss  posted on  2015-05-09   1:37:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Katniss (#103)

This befuddles me.

Only this?

scrapper2  posted on  2015-05-09   1:41:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: scrapper2 (#104)

Did I say only that?

Once again, your shallowness of thought surfacing like an emergency blow on a navy sub.

Katniss  posted on  2015-05-09   1:42:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Katniss (#99)

I think that myself and my family are doing just about everything possible. It's cost us dearly financially...

I hear you, brother, and you're not alone, believe me.

StraitGate  posted on  2015-05-09   23:42:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: StraitGate (#61)

Cops are special because they work for the government. And government is the fount of all blessing, security, prosperity, and health. Therefore the life of a government agent is worth infinitely more than your life or mine, or that of your sister or my mother.

And being a cop is one of the safest occupation just slightly below working in an office; and the pay is much higher.

DWornock  posted on  2015-05-12   5:40:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: StraitGate (#106)

I hear you, brother, and you're not alone, believe me.

Thanks, great to hear.

Katniss  posted on  2015-05-12   14:24:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: DWornock (#107)

And being a cop is one of the safest occupation just slightly below working in an office; and the pay is much higher.

It sure as hell isn't one of the most dangerous, ... unless you're not among them and have the "pleasure" of dealing with them.

Katniss  posted on  2015-05-12   14:26:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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