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Title: Website opinions Please-. templates, etc. Why? Have people been saying "your site is ugly/ outdated" for years.
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Published: Jun 22, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-06-22 19:28:00 by Artisan
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I don't know why people are so obsessed with templates and what code I use for my site,. I have plenty of traffic, and they click the links,, but pretty often people will say my site is outdated, ugly, or even difficult or impossible to read.

I don't know WTF they are talking about. it is a blank page, like a white sheet of paper, with content on it. I don't want or need, flashing gizmos or dancing bears or whatever these people are referring to, I have no idea. I can read my site just fine on my laptop, a desktop, or my phone. I don't have to across across the see the lines, etc.

can you tell me if you think my site is hard to read or not?

Don't get me wrong, I am interested in the complaints but I do not understand them. I don't see what is so complicated to read a VERY EXTREMELY SIMPLE white sheet of paper with content and links on it.

here is one example , my standard setup

http://libertyfight.com/2015/rand_paul_meets_with_big_pharma_during_senate_votes.html

and here is one that I put a border around, because someone was complaining that they had to scroll from side to side in order to read all the lines. I don't know what kind of computer would have that problem, ive never heard of it.

here is the one with the border

http://libertyfight.com/2015/sheriff_shot_boy_feared_sovereign_nation_militia_movement.html

and then people complain about my 'tables', say theyre from the 1990s. yes that's actually when I learned html, was the late 1990s, so I believe them when they say that. lol but WTF is wrong with a cute purple table, a box with all the links to my site sections? I think its simple, and serves the purpose.

I look at a google blog template or 4um or any site and I see content with words and links, I just do not get it what is the big difference.

my stuff is posted to a lot of big name sites such as infowars, lewrockell, rense, WRH, etc, and even sometimes corporate mainstream newspapers, and no one ever seems to have a hard time clicking thru, . they don't seem to have a hard time reading it. but I have had this stream of complaints for years now about how the site is 'outdated.' (such as this one http://libertyfight.com/2014/how_i_beat_speeding_ticket_in_Appeals_Court_without_lawyer.html.)

is it just that people like a cookie-cutter look, like mcdonalds, where all the blogs look exactly the same pre-made template?

I actually do have a google blog for emergencies if my site is down, but it looks bad, I cant control how many ads to put or where to put them, and in the end it is the same to me, content (words) and links. Those pre made template blogs only have one ad per page, and you cant even control where it goes, that is insane and very foolish! On my site, I put what I want, where I want it.

I don't know why people seem to think a website must be so complicated to do. its very easy., just as easy as typing this on forum, except maybe adding a bold or italics.

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#1. To: Artisan (#0)

I have no clue; look at DrudgeReport, possibly one of the most minimalist of all sites that has millions of viewers every day.

Don't worry about it, some people just like to complain.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-06-22   19:44:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Lod (#1)

that is a good point.

if there were some problem accessing my site or reading it, that would be relevant. but as till now no one has ever competently explained precisely why or how my site is lacking so that it is not user friendly. do you have any problem reading it??

lewrockwell appears to me to be a simple white sheet of paper, too,. I like simple websites like that.

some of the really heavy ad saturated websites will actually freeze up my computer, never load, or will even turn off my phone. those type sites are awful, investmentwatchblog is one of them. can rarely open that site, too much jumkbled stuff and ads on it.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-06-22   19:52:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Artisan (#2)

If you, or anyone here, is having problems with pop-ups, or ads, go get AdBlockPlus.org - a freebie, installed immediately on your device(s).

There's no reason to put up with the garbage.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-06-22   19:59:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Artisan (#0)

I like the stuff you post, Artisan.

I think you're running into what often called "reader expectations."

Professionally written and edited sites have a distinctive banner. For example, when you open up VT or Drudge or 4um, you know exactly where you are. (I perhaps shouldn't have mentioned VT - their editing is terrible. Their homepage is very slick, however.)

Perhaps you should consider a "libertyfight" banner and headline links to your top stories.

Ya gotta look competitive to be competitive.

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2015-06-22   21:09:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: All (#4) (Edited)

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2015-06-22   21:35:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: randge (#4)

thanks, that's not a bad idea. do you have any trouble reading the words as if , you must scroll sideways to read the sentence?? ive never had anything like that on my site. it always fits on the screen fine, without any scrolling.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-06-22   23:03:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Artisan (#6)

Sideway scrolling is the absolute worst!

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-06-22   23:08:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Artisan (#0)

Your site is fine. People get spoiled and bored and start crabbing. Remind them about Drudgereport, ranked 146 out of all US sites -- and it's nothing but pictures and COURIER, a stone age typewriter font!

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-06-22   23:16:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Artisan (#0)

WordPress › Theme Directory « Free WordPress Themes

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2015-06-22   23:21:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Artisan (#0)

I think it's fine. If i could offer any advice, maybe offer and alternative black backround with white font so people that ljke to read by darker backrounds might be appeased.

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titorite  posted on  2015-06-23   10:24:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM, Artisan (#9) (Edited)

WordPress › Theme Directory « Free WordPress Themes

Your life may be ALOT simpler and your site dazzling if you switch to Vantage on Wordpress. Unless you posted this just for clicks it bears checking out. It's FREE!

Check out youtube vids for Vantage!!!

The 2 best times to keep your mouth shut are when you’re swimming & when you’re angry.

“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele

“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb

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Hmmmmm  posted on  2015-06-23   10:52:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Hmmmmm, Artisan (#11)

Your life may be ALOT simpler and your site dazzling if you switch to Vantage on Wordpress. Unless you posted this just for clicks it bears checking out. It's FREE!

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Wordpress and Vantage work extremely well together.

Artisan's web page doesn't appear to be based on a WP or Vantage template.

When upgrading a website, the situation arises though where one desires to retain ALL working links, graphics, databases, etc.

There are several web hosting sites that will do this for you and guarantee it for under $200, with tech support for a full year, or indefinite if you continue your domain with the new host.

It also entails MOVING your domain to the new host, which is not that difficult.

IF you move your domain, make sure you purchase domain rights for at least five years to the domain name.

Who knows what it will be like five years from now.

We may communicating via smoke signals and old parchment carried on the backs of mules.

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2015-06-23   11:25:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Hmmmmm (#11)

. Unless you posted this just for clicks it bears checking out. It's FREE!

Hi, I posted this for opinions to see if people have trouble reading my site. I get plenty of clicks & revenue as is, and am very content with my site as is, its very simple to maintain. I actually have a blogspot backup already but I don't care for preformatted templates & don't understand why it'd be needed. Is it that readers like the corporate cookie cutter look??

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-06-23   17:09:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#12)

Thanks for the input, please see #13 also. I am familiar with wordpress.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-06-23   17:11:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: NeoconsNailed, titorite (#8)

Thanks for that. I think its fine too, but am open to growth if some cookie cutter template is what the loonies demand.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-06-23   17:15:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Artisan (#13)

I wasn't ragging on you, I think Vantage is awesome.

The 2 best times to keep your mouth shut are when you’re swimming & when you’re angry.

“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele

“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb

“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm  posted on  2015-06-23   21:17:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Hmmmmm (#16)

Viewing a youtube -- Vantage is a theme template, right?

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-06-23   21:42:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: NeoconsNailed (#17)

Viewing a youtube -- Vantage is a theme template, right?

Yes.

The 2 best times to keep your mouth shut are when you’re swimming & when you’re angry.

“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele

“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb

“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm  posted on  2015-06-24   3:27:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Artisan (#0)

Your site is fine. The complaints probably come from HTML5/CSS geeks saying "OMG he's using depreciated code!"
You could replace your tables with DIV's and use CSS for formatting, that's the "modern" thing to do, but it would look and function much the same. So why bother.
If looking outdated was a problem Drudge would have changed years ago.


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Armadillo  posted on  2015-06-25   21:01:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Armadillo (#19)

Nice to see'ya - hoping all is swell in the OK.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-06-25   21:37:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Armadillo (#19)

Your site is fine. The complaints probably come from HTML5/CSS geeks saying "OMG he's using depreciated code!" You could replace your tables with DIV's and use CSS for formatting, that's the "modern" thing to do, but it would look and function much the same. So why bother. If looking outdated was a problem Drudge would have changed years ago.

Thanks for that input. One thing I noticed is that my site never shuts my cell phone off like many other websites do. Its very annoying . I guess those sites have too much garbage on them.

My traffic and visitors I get prove to me that the big boys (stanford, harvard, jpmorgan, US Senate, US DOJ, warner bros, FOX, etc etc etc ) are interested in the quality of content, not faddish styles.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-06-27   2:02:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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