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Title: Gay Marriage OK - scotus
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URL Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news ... es-gay-marriage-all-50-states/
Published: Jun 26, 2015
Author: pervs
Post Date: 2015-06-26 10:36:01 by Lod
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Views: 462
Comments: 76

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christine posted on 2015-06-26 10:39:35 ET (1 image) Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
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christine posted on 2015-06-26 10:41:06 ET (1 image) Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
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I know, who or what next?
Texas should secede asap.
The bullshit is becoming way too deep.

Lod posted on 2015-06-26 10:46:29 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#41. To: Lod, 4 (#3)
Texas should secede asap.

D.C. Communists have seceded from the Constitution. They are destroying our nation and all normalcy. What they struck in Ohio was an Amendment to the State Constitution, not just a "Common Law". But the Supreme Court isn't a group of legislators, as some of them might opinionatedly think.
Communists have been stacking our courts and offices with their subversives, partly because of the citizenry who refuse to vote against them and talk others into surrendering their votes too -- who'd rather fight against Conservatives for Constitutionality, all who push for condonance of their police abuses even more than the "MSM" does, who shrug off our Founder's Constitutional Militia intent and why, rage against the Military and pillory "conspiracists" when Communism is a massive, monstrous conspiracy against America and humanity, overtly and covertly.

GreyLmist posted on 2015-06-26 16:06:27 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#50. To: GreyLmist (#41) (Edited)
Just to remind you - The "FEDERAL" government is a service provided by the FEDERAL RESERVE BANK.
Yes, that's right, we have a bank providing governmental services. We use "THEIR" monetary system and the law is "the medium of exchange dictates the law" ... it's that simple. (EDIT: FRNs are inter-bank notes.)
You go on and on about the Consti-stupid when it doesn't exist inside of the bank.
I wouldn't disagree with you that the communists and other political jackals are traitors to the Constitution ... if it existed in our modern society.
I said a very long time ago that gay marriage was inevitable because the current government cannot discriminate between taxpayers ... the entity called a taxpayer or citizen is genderless, and it's their ALL CAPITAL LETTER creation [JOHN DOE].

noone222 posted on 2015-07-01 19:27:00 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#55. To: noone222 (#50) (Edited)
Just to remind you - The "FEDERAL" government is a service provided by the FEDERAL RESERVE BANK.
Yes, that's right, we have a bank providing governmental services.

Corroded facsimiles of governmental services, I'd say.

We use "THEIR" monetary system and the law is "the medium of exchange dictates the law" ... it's that simple. (EDIT: FRNs are inter-bank notes.)

I agree that FRNs are inter-bank notes but I'm certain there's nothing in the Constitution like "the medium of exchange dictates
the law". Not even contract law is to be exempt from Constitutionality and especially not when pertaining to the public citizenry
in general.

You go on and on about the Consti-stupid when

Do not. You do. In fact, just reading that phrasing makes me miffed and more so when copying and pasting it for context without ~~strikethrough~~ formatting.

it doesn't exist inside of the bank.

Miffed again. Yes it does. The bankers just act like it doesn't so you'll think they're more powerful than the Constitution but they aren't really.

I wouldn't disagree with you that the communists and other political jackals are traitors to the Constitution ... if it existed in our modern society.

It does exist in our society. The problem is that American society and government are supposed to be cohesively Constitutionalist Only -- not "inclusively" fringed with Communists, political jackals, traitors and other subversives.
4um Reference: 50 U.S. Code § 842 - Proscription of Communist Party, its successors, and subsidiary organizations

I said a very long time ago that gay marriage was inevitable because the current government cannot discriminate between taxpayers ... the entity called a taxpayer or citizen is genderless, and it's their ALL CAPITAL LETTER creation [JOHN DOE].

Affirmative Action is one example that says the Federal government thinks it can discriminate against taxpayers and does. No States were stopping it from amending the U.S. tax code to contain a tax deduction for those partnerships at a rate equivalent to
that of heterosexual marriages. It just didn't want to do that because it would have lowered IRS holdings. So, the Commie cohorts
at the supposed "Supreme Court" got the sinister and invalid notion that they have the power to obliterate the rule of law in
America altogether if they wanted to by striking the States and the Constitutions thereof but they're terribly wrong and should be
impeached.

GreyLmist posted on 2015-07-02 20:03:47 ET (1 image) Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#57. To: GreyLmist, all (#55)
No States were stopping it from amending the U.S. tax code

The thing we have called States in the past were independent and sovereign stand alone entities. What we have had since the introduction of a strictly fiat monetary system are STATES, which for "all" practical purposes are subsidiaries of the FED. These STATES are not sovereign but subservient to their monetary masters at the FED.
Occasionally the Constitution is given lip service and a token victory just to keep the rubes aligned with a system intent upon destroying EVERYTHING traditional while introducing enslavement on an incremental basis.
In some respects the SCOTUS is limited "by law" [commercial law]. The law of the land (Constitution) depends upon real money as described in the Constitution (gold/silver coin) in order to be of effect. When contracts and fiat enter the picture either the contract (which is supported by the Constitution) or our CHOICE to use fiat currency and credit removes us from Constitutional rule.
What we have done by choice is unwittingly depart from the common law and Constitution in order to utilize a system of monetary exchange that is foreign to the Constitution.
Like it or not we have forfeited truth and adopted a lie. We have become comfortable with this lie (debt based fiat/credit) to such an extent that people in general (many here on 4UM, probably most here) will remain in this system and bitch about its gradual usurpation of their freedom and denial of what were their rights under the Constitutional framework, refusing to acknowledge their complete dependence upon the banking elite for their temporary conveniences until the day of reckoning when the bankers confiscate their wealth as was done in Cyprus or is happening in Greece.
This latest imposition of queer nation is a test of our faith and our will. Is our faith in God or the fiat currency STATE ? Homosexuality is an abomination and an affront to the God that so-called Christians claim to worship. Yet, they will rationalize funding the government promoting this abomination through their taxes and thereby prove their faith and will power is non-existent. These same "Christians" will fund international war, forced vaccination, abortions, the police state, and anything else the global satanists inject into their lives because they're still comfortable with or addicted to their temporary conveniences.
The only election that can take us off of this runaway train to hell is our election to return to honest money (honest weights and measures) and reject the satanic monetary system in control today. Until we choose to remove ourselves from within the FEDERAL RESERVE BANKING SYSTEM all of the bitching, voting, petitioning and etc., is a waste of time.

noone222 posted on 2015-07-03 7:31:16 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
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#59. To: noone222 (#57)
Archiving:
1. The Constitutional Tender Act - constitutionaltender.com

The United States Constitution declares, in Article I, Section 10, "No State shall... make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts". This means that no State can make something besides gold or silver a "tender in payment" (which means they cannot "make something else an offer as payment") for any debts, which would include debts owed by and to the State. However, EVERY State in the United States of America HAS made some other "Thing" an offer as payment - they have by law declared that they will accept, and pay out, Federal Reserve Notes for any debts owed by or to them. Therefore, every State is in violation of Article I, Section 10 of the U.S. Constitution. Thus the need for the "Constitutional Tender Act" -- a bill template that can be introduced in every State legislature in the nation, returning each of them to adherence to the United States Constitution's actual legal tender provisions.

2. Analysis at fauxcapitalist.com, Exposing Faux Capitalism to the dismay of the Federal Reserve and other faux capitalists.

2A. The U.S. Constitution doesn’t say money should be gold or silver coin
2B. The Constitution doesn’t insist on a gold or silver-backed currency
2C. Congress’ exclusive power to coin money doesn’t prevent private individuals from coining currency

3. Nondelegation doctrine - Wikipedia

The doctrine of nondelegation describes the theory that one branch of government must not authorize another entity to exercise the power or function which it is constitutionally authorized to exercise itself. It is explicit or implicit in all written constitutions that impose a strict structural separation of powers. It is usually applied in questions of constitutionally improper delegations of powers of any of the three branches of government to either of the other, to the administrative state, or to private entities.

4. The Constitution In Exile: How The Federal Government Has Seized Power By Rewriting The Supreme Law Of The Land - book by Judge Andrew P. Napolitano, thomasnelson.com promotional

What ever happened to our inalienable rights?
The Constitution was once the bedrock of our country, an unpretentious parchment that boldly established the God-given rights and freedoms of America. Today that parchment has been shred to ribbons, explains Fox News senior judicial analyst Judge Andrew P. Napolitano, as the federal government trounces state and individual rights and expands its reach far beyond what the Framers intended.
An important follow-up to Judge Napolitano's best-selling Constitutional Chaos, this book shows with no-nonsense clarity how Congress has "purchased" regulations by bribing states and explains how the Supreme Court has devised historically inaccurate, logically inconsistent, and even laughable justifications

5. The Constituton in Exile info - constitution.org, Constitution Society

The term "constitution in exile" has come to be used to characterize the ambitions of originalists to bring legal practice back into compliance with the written Constitution of government as originally understood by the Founders.
if you are looking for the movement that embraces the phrase, you've found it here.
This movement is "libertarian", not "conservative". To be consistent with original understanding, we would need to go all the way back to undo the precedent of McCulloch v. Maryland, 17 U.S. 316 (1819). [My note: SCOTUS bank mumbo jumbo, etc.]
This page is intended to be a gateway to the movement and the writings by its proponents and adversaries. Of course, this entire site serves that purpose, but here the focus will be on the movement of legal scholars who most exemplify the phrase.
[Lists of Linked Resources: Articles and Books]

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