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Title: Gay Marriage OK - scotus
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URL Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news ... es-gay-marriage-all-50-states/
Published: Jun 26, 2015
Author: pervs
Post Date: 2015-06-26 10:36:01 by Lod
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#36. To: Lod (#0)
This is a ruling and it is not law. The court has told "WE the People" fuck you and your vote against same sex marriage. If congress or the state had any balls they can make a law the over rides the ruling.

Darkwing posted on 2015-06-26 14:49:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#37. To: christine (#30)
It's another 5-4 ruling!!!!

Only missed by one vote.
Better luck next time, suckers!
The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso posted on 2015-06-26 15:11:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#38. To: Darkwing (#36)
How is it not a law, Darkwing? Even if it's not, SCt rulings are given the force of law now, right?

NeoconsNailed posted on 2015-06-26 15:45:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#39. To: Lod, randge, x-15, christine (#16)
You are all BIGOTS and you are all GOING TO JAIL!

Supreme Court Alito Warns: Defenders of Traditional Marriage Now Risk Being Treated as Bigots by Governments, Employers, Schools

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2015-06-26 15:48:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#40. To: Darkwing, lod (#36)
This is a ruling and it is not law.

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Really?

Louisiana, Texas governors vow to fight Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage while others pledge to comply

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2015-06-26 16:01:19 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#41. To: Lod, 4 (#3)
Texas should secede asap.

D.C. Communists have seceded from the Constitution. They are destroying our nation and all normalcy. What they struck in Ohio was an Amendment to the State Constitution, not just a "Common Law". But the Supreme Court isn't a group of legislators, as some of them might opinionatedly think.
Communists have been stacking our courts and offices with their subversives, partly because of the citizenry who refuse to vote against them and talk others into surrendering their votes too -- who'd rather fight against Conservatives for Constitutionality, all who push for condonance of their police abuses even more than the "MSM" does, who shrug off our Founder's Constitutional Militia intent and why, rage against the Military and pillory "conspiracists" when Communism is a massive, monstrous conspiracy against America and humanity, overtly and covertly.
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GreyLmist posted on 2015-06-26 16:06:27 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#42. To: Lod (#0)
From a Libertarian point of view, it is none of the governments business. Marriage is a contract between two consenting adults. Period. No government sanction is needed, get government out of the marriage business and the issue would have been solved.
I've gotten to know several gay couples, and believe it or not the love they feel is no different than what you feel. Their marriages are the same as your marriage, except for the gender of one person. Heck, many of the things they do in the bedroom are the same things you do and/or enjoy.
Gay marriage makes you uncomfortable? So what. It's their relationship, not yours.
You think gays are sinners? Again, so what. Live your own life and let God judge them (and you).

Anyone offended by this post, click here.
"The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion." -Albert Camus.

Armadillo posted on 2015-06-26 21:38:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#43. To: Armadillo (#42)
From a Libertarian point of view, it is none of the governments business. Marriage is a contract between two consenting adults. Period. No government sanction is needed, get government out of the marriage business and the issue would have been solved.

Yep.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2015-06-26 21:50:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#44. To: christine (#15)

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2015-06-28 23:36:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#45. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#40)
King James Bible / Acts 5:29
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".
Doug Scheidt
noone222 posted on 2015-06-29 1:04:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#46. To: Armadillo (#42)
Marriage is a contract between two consenting adults. Period. No government sanction is needed, get government out of the marriage business and the issue would have been solved.

I'm no fan of govt or courts, but what if the two adults are brother and sister or parent and child?
Don't scoff, in today's deranged world it's sure to come up. One woman formally "married" herself before witnesses and went on a honeymoon. Not necessarily disagreeing with your post overall (wow, Lod doesn't???), I'm just askin'.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2015-06-29 1:51:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#47. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#44)
This is going to get very interesting. Theoretically 2/3 of all churches (at least) are outraged by the ruling. Do they have the guts? Who'll be the first guinea pig in each denomination? Are all SINagogs unanimously for it???

NeoconsNailed posted on 2015-06-29 1:55:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#48. To: NeoconsNailed (#46)
I'm no fan of govt or courts, but what if the two adults are brother and sister or parent and child?

It's none of my business if they are related. They could get married. Marriages like those were once more common. The human race survived.
Yeah it's gross and bad for their offsprings genetics. Oh well. Not my problem.

Anyone offended by this post, click here.
"The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion." -Albert Camus.

Armadillo posted on 2015-07-01 18:55:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#49. To: noone222 (#45)
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

Always a solid plan, thanks.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2015-07-01 19:05:27 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#50. To: GreyLmist (#41) (Edited)
Just to remind you - The "FEDERAL" government is a service provided by the FEDERAL RESERVE BANK.
Yes, that's right, we have a bank providing governmental services. We use "THEIR" monetary system and the law is "the medium of exchange dictates the law" ... it's that simple. (EDIT: FRNs are inter-bank notes.)
You go on and on about the Consti-stupid when it doesn't exist inside of the bank.
I wouldn't disagree with you that the communists and other political jackals are traitors to the Constitution ... if it existed in our modern society.
I said a very long time ago that gay marriage was inevitable because the current government cannot discriminate between taxpayers ... the entity called a taxpayer or citizen is genderless, and it's their ALL CAPITAL LETTER creation [JOHN DOE].
"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".
Doug Scheidt
noone222 posted on 2015-07-01 19:27:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#51. To: GreyLmist (#41)
In Greece and Europe the banks are the oligarchs’ method of control just as the Federal Reserve is in the US and the Bank of England in the UK and the European Central Bank in the EU. The same in Canada, Australia, and Japan. When an oligarchy controls the money, the oligarchy controls the country, so “Western democracy” is only a pretense.

The above is from another post here on 4UM. It avoids the truth about who runs the show but it does admit that the general population ain;t got a clue about how their country really works.
"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".
Doug Scheidt
noone222 posted on 2015-07-01 19:51:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#52. To: noone222 (#51)
Let's not be afraid to name them.

When a ~~oligarchy~~ jew controls the money, the ~~oligarchy~~ jew controls the country, so “Western democracy” is only a pretense.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2015-07-01 20:00:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#53. To: Armadillo (#48)
You don't think it affects you if the age of consent is dropped to 11 like in Mexico, or many more retards get born for the rest of time? The average IQ in this country is sinking fast enough.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2015-07-01 20:27:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#54. To: noone222 (#51) (Edited)
In Greece and Europe the banks are the oligarchs’ method of control just as the Federal Reserve is in the US and the Bank of England in the UK and the European Central Bank in the EU. The same in Canada, Australia, and Japan. When an oligarchy controls the money, the oligarchy controls the country, so “Western democracy” is only a pretense.

The above is from another post here on 4UM. It avoids the truth about who runs the show but it does admit that the general population ain;t got a clue about how their country really works.

An example proving your point:

Fortunately for Americans, our country is founded as a Constitutional Republic, not an oligarch "Democracy" casino to be
Mafia-rigged against us. : )
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GreyLmist posted on 2015-07-02 16:01:37 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#55. To: noone222 (#50) (Edited)
Just to remind you - The "FEDERAL" government is a service provided by the FEDERAL RESERVE BANK.
Yes, that's right, we have a bank providing governmental services.

Corroded facsimiles of governmental services, I'd say.

We use "THEIR" monetary system and the law is "the medium of exchange dictates the law" ... it's that simple. (EDIT: FRNs are inter-bank notes.)

I agree that FRNs are inter-bank notes but I'm certain there's nothing in the Constitution like "the medium of exchange dictates
the law". Not even contract law is to be exempt from Constitutionality and especially not when pertaining to the public citizenry
in general.

You go on and on about the Consti-stupid when

Do not. You do. In fact, just reading that phrasing makes me miffed and more so when copying and pasting it for context without ~~strikethrough~~ formatting.

it doesn't exist inside of the bank.

Miffed again. Yes it does. The bankers just act like it doesn't so you'll think they're more powerful than the Constitution but they aren't really.

I wouldn't disagree with you that the communists and other political jackals are traitors to the Constitution ... if it existed in our modern society.

It does exist in our society. The problem is that American society and government are supposed to be cohesively Constitutionalist Only -- not "inclusively" fringed with Communists, political jackals, traitors and other subversives.
4um Reference: 50 U.S. Code § 842 - Proscription of Communist Party, its successors, and subsidiary organizations

I said a very long time ago that gay marriage was inevitable because the current government cannot discriminate between taxpayers ... the entity called a taxpayer or citizen is genderless, and it's their ALL CAPITAL LETTER creation [JOHN DOE].

Affirmative Action is one example that says the Federal government thinks it can discriminate against taxpayers and does. No States were stopping it from amending the U.S. tax code to contain a tax deduction for those partnerships at a rate equivalent to
that of heterosexual marriages. It just didn't want to do that because it would have lowered IRS holdings. So, the Commie cohorts
at the supposed "Supreme Court" got the sinister and invalid notion that they have the power to obliterate the rule of law in
America altogether if they wanted to by striking the States and the Constitutions thereof but they're terribly wrong and should be
impeached.
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GreyLmist posted on 2015-07-02 20:03:47 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#56. To: GreyLmist (#55)
but they're terribly wrong and should be impeached.

Americans will be in FEMA camps before they're impeached.
Miffed again. Yes it does. The bankers just act like it doesn't so you'll think they're more powerful than the Constitution but they aren't really.
Well, if we were keeping score here in Sodom and Gomorrah the Constitution would appear to be taking a terrible drubbing.
"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".
Doug Scheidt
noone222 posted on 2015-07-03 5:45:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#57. To: GreyLmist, all (#55)
No States were stopping it from amending the U.S. tax code

The thing we have called States in the past were independent and sovereign stand alone entities. What we have had since the introduction of a strictly fiat monetary system are STATES, which for "all" practical purposes are subsidiaries of the FED. These STATES are not sovereign but subservient to their monetary masters at the FED.
Occasionally the Constitution is given lip service and a token victory just to keep the rubes aligned with a system intent upon destroying EVERYTHING traditional while introducing enslavement on an incremental basis.
In some respects the SCOTUS is limited "by law" [commercial law]. The law of the land (Constitution) depends upon real money as described in the Constitution (gold/silver coin) in order to be of effect. When contracts and fiat enter the picture either the contract (which is supported by the Constitution) or our CHOICE to use fiat currency and credit removes us from Constitutional rule.
What we have done by choice is unwittingly depart from the common law and Constitution in order to utilize a system of monetary exchange that is foreign to the Constitution.
Like it or not we have forfeited truth and adopted a lie. We have become comfortable with this lie (debt based fiat/credit) to such an extent that people in general (many here on 4UM, probably most here) will remain in this system and bitch about its gradual usurpation of their freedom and denial of what were their rights under the Constitutional framework, refusing to acknowledge their complete dependence upon the banking elite for their temporary conveniences until the day of reckoning when the bankers confiscate their wealth as was done in Cyprus or is happening in Greece.
This latest imposition of queer nation is a test of our faith and our will. Is our faith in God or the fiat currency STATE ? Homosexuality is an abomination and an affront to the God that so-called Christians claim to worship. Yet, they will rationalize funding the government promoting this abomination through their taxes and thereby prove their faith and will power is non-existent. These same "Christians" will fund international war, forced vaccination, abortions, the police state, and anything else the global satanists inject into their lives because they're still comfortable with or addicted to their temporary conveniences.
The only election that can take us off of this runaway train to hell is our election to return to honest money (honest weights and measures) and reject the satanic monetary system in control today. Until we choose to remove ourselves from within the FEDERAL RESERVE BANKING SYSTEM all of the bitching, voting, petitioning and etc., is a waste of time.
"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".
Doug Scheidt
noone222 posted on 2015-07-03 7:31:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#58. To: noone222 (#56)
the Constitution would appear to be taking a terrible drubbing.

It looks that way but the text hasn't changed since the last Amendment. These SCOTUS rogues wouldn't be the first if
impeached. Samuel Chase was but he was acquited. If gov officials fail to impeach and remove rogues moving against
our Constitution, they can be impeached too.
Noting that my post at #55 was spaced to fit the thread dimensions but found that doesn't work when arriving here from
the Latest Comments page. Clicking Full Thread mode corrected that problem for easier reading.
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GreyLmist posted on 2015-07-03 10:07:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#59. To: noone222 (#57)
Archiving:
1. The Constitutional Tender Act - constitutionaltender.com

The United States Constitution declares, in Article I, Section 10, "No State shall... make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts". This means that no State can make something besides gold or silver a "tender in payment" (which means they cannot "make something else an offer as payment") for any debts, which would include debts owed by and to the State. However, EVERY State in the United States of America HAS made some other "Thing" an offer as payment - they have by law declared that they will accept, and pay out, Federal Reserve Notes for any debts owed by or to them. Therefore, every State is in violation of Article I, Section 10 of the U.S. Constitution. Thus the need for the "Constitutional Tender Act" -- a bill template that can be introduced in every State legislature in the nation, returning each of them to adherence to the United States Constitution's actual legal tender provisions.

2. Analysis at fauxcapitalist.com, Exposing Faux Capitalism to the dismay of the Federal Reserve and other faux capitalists.

2A. The U.S. Constitution doesn’t say money should be gold or silver coin
2B. The Constitution doesn’t insist on a gold or silver-backed currency
2C. Congress’ exclusive power to coin money doesn’t prevent private individuals from coining currency

3. Nondelegation doctrine - Wikipedia

The doctrine of nondelegation describes the theory that one branch of government must not authorize another entity to exercise the power or function which it is constitutionally authorized to exercise itself. It is explicit or implicit in all written constitutions that impose a strict structural separation of powers. It is usually applied in questions of constitutionally improper delegations of powers of any of the three branches of government to either of the other, to the administrative state, or to private entities.

4. The Constitution In Exile: How The Federal Government Has Seized Power By Rewriting The Supreme Law Of The Land - book by Judge Andrew P. Napolitano, thomasnelson.com promotional

What ever happened to our inalienable rights?
The Constitution was once the bedrock of our country, an unpretentious parchment that boldly established the God-given rights and freedoms of America. Today that parchment has been shred to ribbons, explains Fox News senior judicial analyst Judge Andrew P. Napolitano, as the federal government trounces state and individual rights and expands its reach far beyond what the Framers intended.
An important follow-up to Judge Napolitano's best-selling Constitutional Chaos, this book shows with no-nonsense clarity how Congress has "purchased" regulations by bribing states and explains how the Supreme Court has devised historically inaccurate, logically inconsistent, and even laughable justifications

5. The Constituton in Exile info - constitution.org, Constitution Society

The term "constitution in exile" has come to be used to characterize the ambitions of originalists to bring legal practice back into compliance with the written Constitution of government as originally understood by the Founders.
if you are looking for the movement that embraces the phrase, you've found it here.
This movement is "libertarian", not "conservative". To be consistent with original understanding, we would need to go all the way back to undo the precedent of McCulloch v. Maryland, 17 U.S. 316 (1819). [My note: SCOTUS bank mumbo jumbo, etc.]
This page is intended to be a gateway to the movement and the writings by its proponents and adversaries. Of course, this entire site serves that purpose, but here the focus will be on the movement of legal scholars who most exemplify the phrase.
[Lists of Linked Resources: Articles and Books]

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2015-07-07 18:49:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#60. To: GreyLmist (#59)
Therefore, every State is in violation of Article I, Section 10 of the U.S. Constitution. Thus the need for the "Constitutional Tender Act" -- a bill template that can be introduced in every State legislature in the nation, returning each of them to adherence to the United States Constitution's actual legal tender provisions.

My position is that an entirely separate and distinct "legal" jurisdiction outside of Constitutional purview has been created wherein the original sovereign states became subsidiary STATES under the FEDERAL RESERVE similar to the way we perceive counties under state authority. These FEDERAL STATES are under commercial law.
"The entire taxing and monetary systems are hereby placed under the U.C.C. (Uniform Commercial Code)" — The Federal Tax Lien Act of 1966
The problem is not political in nature it is commercial. The usage of commercial paper, negotiable instruments and credit are governed not by a Constitution but by uniform commercial law.
If one Article of the Constitution is rendered null the entire document becomes irrelevant or of no authority. While some might say the Constitution is in exile I would simply suggest it has been set aside.
Article I, Section 10 of the U.S. Constitution hasn't been amended nor has it been repealed. The money lenders have simply circumvented it by establishing a commercial system that we have enlisted through usage of it and have thereby chosen to depart from the common law and the Constitution.
"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".
Doug Scheidt
noone222 posted on 2015-07-08 9:45:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#61. To: GreyLmist (#59)
However, EVERY State in the United States of America HAS made some other "Thing" an offer as payment - they have by law declared that they will accept, and pay out, Federal Reserve Notes for any debts owed by or to them.

Let me add this:
The above statement makes it possible for the so-called states to choose whichever portions of the Constitution they like and eradicate those they don't like. This is nonsense.
How is it that the population are then forced to accept a negotiable debt instrument for their labor rather than money ? This is happening because when the system was transformed the printers of currency kept the appearance very much similar to the previous (receipt) backed by something of intrinsic value.
Truth be told, the entire world (nearly) has been lured into the bank. Regardless of how pretty the paper fiat is it is still an internal commercial instrument of the bank and regulated by the bank. Every transaction wherein this script is used has attached to it a FEDERAL RESERVE fingerprint.
Like I've said before in a different way, we have been lured across the border from the free republic and into the socialist jurisdiction of the central bank. Here in the bank there is no Constitution to discuss and any reference to it is propaganda meant to keep the population ignorant.
I used to scoff at folks claiming the courts were actually banks ... they may have the last laugh.
"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".
Doug Scheidt
noone222 posted on 2015-07-08 10:12:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#62. To: GreyLmist (#59)
Another situation comes to mind since we're on a gay marriage thread.
Some bakers were fined over 100K for refusing to bake a wedding cake for two queers. I might ask if this is the result of too much freedom ? Is this the result of freedom of choice ?
No, it's the result of having a business license in a commercial atmosphere. It's because the STATE is a godless entity and cannot recognize gender biases concerning taxpayers in the general public.
The Bible speaks of those with eyes to see and ears to hear. The practicalities are all around us and bitch slapping us in the face. Yet, in spite of the constant beating we're taking, and the multitude of so-called patriots or constitutionalists being locked up, we act like a battered spouse that in spite of the black eyes and bruises claims that Uncle Sambo still loves us.
"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".
Doug Scheidt
noone222 posted on 2015-07-08 10:40:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#63. To: noone222 (#62)
Unfortunately, being incorporated is necessary for limited liability -- and a signal to the govt that you're its willing creature, slave and pariah.
In a mostly moral society there would be very little need for any aspect of government. I don't know if there's ever been one, but I do know that virtually everything moral or legal was in infinitely better shape before diversity (B.D.) I look deludedly to the year 1900 as a sort shangri-la -- no wars, no income tax, no Fed*, no Jacko, no NAACP or other Jue-fomented "rights" movements, no divorce, abortion barely existed as a subject. Few Jues!
No horror movies (few movies), no Larry King, no nukes, no diversity worth mentioning, little equality psychosis. Suspect there was far less licensing and incorporation because each white country was a family and a family means far more mutual trust, respect and understanding.
*or FED as lots of us thoughtlessly but doggedly would put it

NeoconsNailed posted on 2015-07-08 11:15:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#64. To: noone222 (#62) (Edited)
The Bible speaks of those with eyes to see and ears to hear.

The Bible speaks to a lot of things including daughters getting their father drunk and seducing him to continue a bloodline that leads eventually to Jesus...
It also speaks of a King who willingly, wantonly and absolutely shattered the 6th and 7th Commandments to get his way...and is one who sits among the throne of *God*...
It also speaks of loving your neighbor as you love yourself, to not judge others, vengeance is God's alone and that a true follower of Christ will adhere to those three tenets most absolutely...
--Perfecting Obscurity Since 1958...
war posted on 2015-07-08 12:14:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#65. To: NeoconsNailed (#63)
Unfortunately, being incorporated is necessary for limited liability

I can't agree ... strict liability is honest. Limited liability is legalese for screw you !
"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".
Doug Scheidt
noone222 posted on 2015-07-08 16:40:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#66. To: noone222 (#65)
Suing is a major Jue weapon against us. How to guard against it without LL? I'm afraid you're talking as if things are still as they once were rather than under the Jue/gliberal boot heel as today.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2015-07-08 16:57:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#67. To: NeoconsNailed (#66)
How to guard against it without LL?

If you fear being sued by a Jew - don't do business with them.
"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".
Doug Scheidt
noone222 posted on 2015-07-08 22:47:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#68. To: noone222 (#67)
If you fear being sued by a Jew - don't do business with them.

drown them. :)

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
Dakmar posted on 2015-07-08 23:24:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#69. To: Dakmar (#68)
I'm kinda thick ... and didn't get it !
"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".
Doug Scheidt
noone222 posted on 2015-07-09 2:33:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#70. To: noone222 (#69)
You're looking for a punchline...there isn't one.
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
Dakmar posted on 2015-07-09 2:41:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#71. To: noone222 (#69)
You ever just plant your ass in a seat and watch an opera like Madam Butterfly?
LOL, me neither!
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
Dakmar posted on 2015-07-09 2:51:27 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#72. To: Dakmar (#71)
LOL, me neither!

I tried to listen to that shit and decided it was simply someplace where deaf spies go to exchange notes or something.
No way. Made my teeth hurt.
"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".
Doug Scheidt
noone222 posted on 2015-07-09 7:29:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#73. To: noone222 (#67) (Edited)
If you fear being sued by a Jew - don't do business with them.

That's not an answer. Whatever.
I used to hate opera till I started leaving it on the radio weekends. Then I realized the 19th- early 20th century stuff is the best thing this side of Bach. Really sorry for anybody who doesn't get it!

NeoconsNailed posted on 2015-07-09 8:41:19 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#74. To: NeoconsNailed, noone222 (#73)
you can't like music if you don't like opera, case in point:

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
Dakmar posted on 2015-07-12 18:16:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#75. To: Dakmar (#74)
you can't like music if you don't like opera, case in point:

Bullocks !
"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".
Doug Scheidt
noone222 posted on 2015-07-12 19:57:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#76. To: Dakmar (#74)
Good try, Dakmar. I'll make one --

Strauss -- Der Rosenkavalier, Final Trio -- K. Battle, F. von Stade, R. Fleming (1992)
www.youtube.com/watch? v=EXi8U1twwrc
Admittedly, it would be even diviner if singers could count. ("Sopranos have resonance where their brains should be" -- heartless expression.) The plot including weird costume:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_ Rosenkavalier

NeoconsNailed posted on 2015-07-12 21:19:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
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