Title: The Nanking Massacre - Why China Still Hates Japan Source:
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China and Japan have a long history of rivalry and conflict, marred by war and atrocities. Today, both nations’ economies are thriving, and they’re big trade partners, so why does China still resent Japan? TestTube Daily takes a look at the countries’ dark past and the effect it's had on their relationship today.
........Life magazine reported the widespread view among American troops of France as "a tremendous brothel inhabited by 40 million hedonists who spent all their time eating, drinking, making love and in general having a hell of a good time".[2][3]
French complaints
By the late summer of 1944, soon after the Invasion of Normandy, women in Normandy began to complain about rapes by American soldiers.[4] Hundreds of cases were reported.[5] In 1945, after the end of the war in Europe, Le Havre was filled with American servicemen awaiting return to the States. A Le Havre citizen wrote to the mayor that the people of Le Havre were "attacked, robbed, run over both on the street and in our houses" and "This is a regime of terror, imposed by bandits in uniform."[4] A coffeehouse owner from Le Havre testified "We expected friends who would not make us ashamed of our defeat. Instead, there came only incomprehension, arrogance, incredibly bad manners and the swagger of conquerors."[6] Such behavior also was common in Cherbourg. One resident stated that "With the Germans, the men had to camouflage themselves -- but with the Americans, we had to hide the women."[5] ......
Truly we are a glorious country with an illustrious history in war. Nobody's as great as us in the whole world. Hooray for us! Gather around ye nations so foolish as not to be US! Haha, they'll never be US no matter how hard they try, because only WE, wonderful WE, will ever be US!
I have the Rape of Nanking book BTW. Anybody want to hate humanity a little more can borry it!
Lots of Asians hate the Japs, understandably. Had lunch with a Korean family last week, and the 19 year old daughter told me, "Many Koreans hate the Japanese, including me. I hate them."
Lots of Asians hate the Japs, understandably. Had lunch with a Korean family last week, and the 19 year old daughter told me, "Many Koreans hate the Japanese, including me. I hate them.
Imagine an invading and occupying force that CUT DOWN ALL THE TREES in your country, THREW ALL YOUR FEMALE RELATIVE INTO SEX SLAVERY, and FORBID YOU TO SPEAK IN YOUR NATIVE LANGUAGE.
We don't understand the word 'pissed.'
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
"We expected friends who would not make us ashamed of our defeat. Instead, there came only incomprehension, arrogance, incredibly bad manners and the swagger of conquerors."
Ashamed they should be.
The French army ran like rabbits before the German onslaught, leaving their women to the mercy of the Germans. The same French army that shot and killed us when we landed in North Africa.
In that case, our troops can't be trusted anywhere and should be disbanded - maybe everybody's. You must be a great fan of coed submarines? To relieve the tension and monotony.
A common 'bonus' the the Japanese invading and occupying Manchuria was the special prize of gutting pregnant Chinese women on the street from the vagina to the top of the chest cavity, thus leaving the fetus to perish in the open.
The sickness of this has not left the memory of the Chinese. Nobody can blame either the Koreans or the Chinese for seeking closure on the atrocities the Japanese wrought on them during those terribly dark years. It has been passed down from generation to generation.
Japan is at least ONE of the primary reasons China is building up it's navy as fast as it can. Imagine a Chinese invasion of Japan? And THAT is why the Japanese are seeking to remove the WWII armistice that prevents them from maintaining large military forces.
Add Russia, the Philippines, South Vietnam, Thailand, and all the other nations bordering the China/Japan seas and you begin to see the Old Demon coming back out of the box.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
Has anybody ever heard an explanation as to WHY the Japs did it? Such a normal, very cultured bunch of folks otherwise. Looks like China had "regional dominance in East Asia"
and Japan grabbed Korea from them, and they were off and running. Maybe the real first cause was "After two centuries, the Japanese policy of seclusion under the shoguns of the Edo period came to an end when the country was forced open to trade by United States intervention in 1854" -- above link. Gee, what would the past century have been like if Japan had been left to its own devices? amerika can NEVER let well enough alone.
Blaming amerika works with such blessed simplicity, it's almost as easy and natural as blaming the Jues -- also usually valid! Regret to say I had a direct ancestor on Perry's barge. The days of taking pride in something like that or having forebears who came over with William the Bastard are long gone -- wow, that was the fiend's other name!
Blaming amerika works with such blessed simplicity, it's almost as easy and natural as blaming the Jues -- also usually valid! Regret to say I had a direct ancestor on Perry's barge. The days of taking pride in something like that or having forebears who came over with William the Bastard are long gone -- wow, that was the fiend's other name!
"One can assess the level of racism against the Ainus when it is realized that the modern Chinese/Korean descended Japanese pretend that they are indigenous, rather than settlers; and they down-play the fact that there were original black muurish Japanese.
Perhaps it is because they stole the land from the indigenes. Perhaps they do not want to recall the true owners of the beautiful land which they stole, the land belonging to another Asiatic black people, the Ainus, the last Muurs of Japan.
and Japan grabbed Korea from them, and they were off and running.
The culture of both China and Korea as they were emerging from the 18th century was by any standard feudal and medieval. The governing and trading classes and the nobility were mercilessly corrupt and predatory, by and large.
The other side of the coin--and there is always another side to the coin--is that Korea had never experienced a rate of material progress in its history the like of which was seen during the Japanese occupation of that country. The Japanese did much to moderate the exactions of the nobility upon the peasantry of that country. The Japanese encouraged education (of both sexes), built housing, infrastructure, telecommunication, roads, bridges, and in general brought Korea into the 20th century. They came as conquerors, but they brought virtues other than the purely military ones with them. Koreans are loathe to admit this phase of their history and they would rather forget those parts of it. Readers can satisfy themselves with the statistics. They are quite readily available.
But competition with the West and the desire for empire unfortunately also brought out the dark side of that island culture, and Japan's neighbors suffered from occupation under a military steeped in sadistic levels of discipline directed at its own recruits and soldiers and toward subject populations as well. Japan would have done well to bow out once it was no longer welcome. Empire builders seldom know when it's time to cut losses and carry out an orderly retreat with the nation's standards flying.
Perhaps it is because they stole the land from the indigenes. Perhaps they do not want to recall the true owners of the beautiful land which they stole, the land belonging to another Asiatic black people, the Ainus, the last Muurs of Japan.
Thank you so much for filling me in there. Fascinating and enlightening. Yeah, any country that finds it's good at messing with other countries (even to the benefit of some) gets too big for its britches. Tell me, how long do you suppose Japan could have remained shut up? One of the few times the word isolationist actually applies. I suppose population pressures ruin everything where other factors are fine in many cases, but mebbe without Western medicine and santitation Japan's population would have corrected itself indefinitely.
Modernizing is a wonderful thing, except that many people ultimately have no choice in whether to accept it -- esp. if amerika's on the other end of the phone.
Take a minute and sip on one of your favorite beverages.
The introduction of manufacturing into Japan was the largest impact of it 'opening up' to the West. And they never looked back.
Japan is in a really tough spot right now with Russia snorting at them from the North (over disputed islands) and China flaming at them from the East (over disputed islands and maritime trade routes.
Japan has NO WHERE ELSE TO GO. They can't invade another country, and are similar to sitting ducks out in the water between Russia and China, and Russia and China are pulling large military naval exercises in regional waters that are scaring the hell out of Japan.
Even more of a squeeze is that Japan has only ONE protection umbrella against Chinese and Russian aggression - namely the good 'old USA.
So, they really have no choice but to re-militarize their forces. If they have time to do it.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
Oh, sure, they never looked back -- but who says they're better off for it overall?
What's the worst that would have happened to them if we'd left them alone? If the answer is they would have been crushed by a Russia or China because they did modernize, it only tends to indict modernization. The Industrial Revolution was awful and I'm not at all sure it improved life in toto.
Sure, I'd rather die than live with no electricity, but it doesn't mean it's a benefit or good in the long run -- esp. in view of the real impact of energy production on everything. (Just one example of the two-edged sword in question.) Is it progress if every member of a family has a TV in their room? They used to play games and make music together in the very long ago.
Tell me, how long do you suppose Japan could have remained shut up?
Wow. Good question. I confess I'm not well-read enough into that slice of time and place to offer an opinion, but it wouldn't have been much longer before the winds of change came from another direction. The industrial revolution was a whirlwind and Japan couldn't have stood impassively in the face of it for long.
Perhaps it is because they stole the land from the indigenes. Perhaps they do not want to recall the true owners of the beautiful land which they stole, the land belonging to another Asiatic black people, the Ainus, the last Muurs of Japan.
There's been a whole lot of stealing going on.
What ever happened to the Mohicans, or many other of the East Coast tribes?
How about the Tasmanians? The Aussies literally hunted these people to extinction. They were completely wiped out.
There's Argentina too lest we forget. Perhaps the most European of the South American lands. The indigenous folks were hunted down and the remainder forced to the margins of civilization there.
We speak English (and so do the Scots and Irish) because the Anglo-Saxons ruthlessly drove the Celts north and west and conquered what became Anglalonde.
You can imagine the chagrin of the Jews "returning" to the "Holy Land" only to find the history had officially be declared to be OVER and conquest was no longer synonymous with possession. (In which lesson the losers of WWII were solemnly catechized.)
I don't know if this helps, but it's virtually impossible ever to tell who the real indigenes are in an area. Nobody but nobody (except gliberals-come-lately) questions that Europe is white people's continent, that France is rightly for the white French etc. This is probably just because we don't know who was there before them, whereas we do in some other places -- but records only go back so far.
The Americas make fools of everybody because it's hopelessly complex. The Indians are only indigenous if they came over a Bering isthmus, but, ah, it seems they killed off the noble Mound Builders when they got here -- and the above case would make whites indigenous here too.