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Title: Russia Inadvertently Posts Its Casualties In Ukraine: 2,000 Deaths, 3,200 Disabled
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URL Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulrod ... an-casualties-in-east-ukraine/
Published: Aug 26, 2015
Author: forbes
Post Date: 2015-08-26 09:58:40 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
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Views: 126
Comments: 9

A local resident examines his building, destroyed during recent shelling, in the small town of Avdiivka, in the Donetsk region on August 25, 2015. Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko accused Russia of this week sending three military convoys over the border into the separatist-controlled east with a total of up to 500 tanks, 400 artillery systems and up to 950 military armoured vehicles to pro-Russian rebels, although he did not specify the time period for these deliveries. (ANATOLII STEPANOV/AFP/Getty Images)

Russian president Vladimir Putin has decreed that all Russian casualties “in peacetime” be a state secret. In addition to criminal charges arising from divulging state secrets, families risk losing pensions and lump-sum payments if they reveal that their sons were killed in Ukraine. Mothers of soldiers’ associations have been branded “foreign agents” for collecting data on Russian casualties. Dissident Boris Nemtsov was murdered shortly before completing his study of Russian casualties in Ukraine. Russian civil rights organizations, working against the fog of official resistance, could confirm only several hundred battlefield deaths.

Business Life (Delovaya Zhizn) reports on markets, finance, entrepreneurship, finance, and leisure, scarcely an outlet for sensational information. Its innocuously entitled “Increases in Pay for Military in 2015,” however, reveals what appear to be official figures on the number of Russian soldiers killed or made invalids “in eastern Ukraine.” Russian censors quickly removed the offending material but not before it had been webcached by the Ukrainian journal Novy Region (New Region). Here is the “top secret” material the censors removed (my translation):

Web-archived material removed by Russian censors containing casualty figures

“Compensation of military personnel taking part in military actions in Ukraine in 2014-2015.” In addition, the Russian government, in a decision about the monetary compensation of military personnel taking part in military action in eastern Ukraine, approved compensation for families of military personnel who were killed taking part in military action in Ukraine of three million rubles (about $50,000). For those who have become invalids during military action, the compensation is one and a half million rubles (about $25,000). A payment of 1,800 rubles is envisioned for contract “fighters” for every day of their presence in the conflict zone. In all, as of February 1, 2015, monetary compensation had been paid to more than 2,000 families of fallen soldiers and to 3,200 military personnel suffering heavy wounds and recognized as invalids (my italics).”

Sovietologists found many secrets of the USSR by digging into the Soviet press and technical and financial trade journals. That fallen and invalided military personnel are compensated must be reflected somewhere in budgets. As reported in Delovaya zhizn, compensation payments for those killed and invalided in Ukraine came to almost twenty million dollars, not a large share of the approximately $50 billion  defense budget but large enough to appear in an appropriate budget subcategory.

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#1. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko accused Russia of this week sending three military convoys over the border into the separatist-controlled east with a total of up to 500 tanks, 400 artillery systems and up to 950 military armoured vehicles to pro-Russian rebels

LOL!!!!!

If there were ANY Russian tanks in Ukraine they'd be plastering the satellite images all over every MSM news outlet in the western world.

But FIVE HUNDRED???

OMG, Porky is snorting some seriously strong shit if he thinks any rational person would believe that. And for Forbes to parrot his lies makes them appear to be just as irrational.

500 tanks (along with the other alleged equipment) would decimate the ENTIRE UKRAINE MILITARY in a day or less. Perhaps they should have toned down their lies, like maybe claiming 5 or 10, instead of 500.

But even without the tanks, if there were "400 artillery systems and up to 950 military armoured vehicles" posed to attack Ukraine military units, the Ukraine military would be wiped out in a VERY short time.

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-08-26   13:11:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: FormerLurker (#1)

…by Jonas E. Alexis

In response to the prevailing notion among New World Order agents that he is Hitler reincarnate,[1] a dictator,[2] a James bond villain,[3] and that Russia has violated international law,[4] Putin brilliantly said:

“I invite you to publish the world map in your newspaper and to mark all the US military bases on it. You will see the difference…

“American submarines are on permanent alert off the Norwegian coast; they are equipped with missiles that can reach Moscow in 17 minutes. But we dismantled all of our bases in Cuba a long time ago, even the non-strategic ones. And you would call us aggressive?

“As for us, we are not expanding anywhere; it is NATO infrastructure, including military infrastructure, that is moving towards our borders. Is this a manifestation of our aggression?

“Finally, the United States unilaterally withdrew from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, which was to a large extent the cornerstone of the entire international security system.

“Anti-missile systems, bases and radars are located in the European territory or in the sea, e.g. in the Mediterranean Sea, and in Alaska. We have said many times that this undermines international security. Do you think this is a display of our aggression as well?”[5]

Here Putin actually destroys the Zionist project which Satan worshipers and New World Order agents have tried to implement for years in the West. NWO agents will never accept Putin’s challenge precisely because they have relentlessly used the U.S. to destroy countries in the Middle East and elsewhere. Once again, if this is news to some, take a look at Iraq and Afghanistan.

Moreover, while the Neoconservatives and other Zionist flagships want to divert our attention to countries like Russia, China,[6] Brazil,[7] and North Korea, [8] the same people do not want to face the fact that our attention should be on the country that has damaged America and much of the West the most: Israel. [9] Russia or China has never threatened to annihilate any country, but Israel has. If this is news to some, then we must bring in Israeli military historian Martin van Creveld again, who said unequivocally:

“We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force…. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.”[10]

Imagine if Putin or Iranian officials happen to utter such a declaration. What do you think New World Order agents and Satan worshipers would do? Wouldn’t they incestuously and incoherently produce the declaration in the media ad infinitum? Remember how they ridiculously perpetuated the lie that Ahmadinejad wanted to wipe Israel off the map?

Now here is your small homework. Get a microphone, present the Creveld statement to any American and even many politicians that you encounter. Erase the word “Israel” and replace it with a blank space. Ask each person to fill the blank space with any country in the world. Do you seriously think that they are going to place Israel there? Do the homework, and the result will be mind- boggling.

www.veteranstoday.com/201...atest-challenge-to-satan- worshipers-and-new-world-order-agents/

randge  posted on  2015-08-26   14:26:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: randge (#2)

Puttinsky gets to play the noble statesman as long as amerika's acting like a massively psychotic teen.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-08-26   15:12:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: NeoconsNailed (#3)

Yes. Unfortunately, Warshington is not a hard act to follow on the world stage.

In a string of recent productions, it's US that comes off as the heavy in the estimation of many outsiders.

We're certainly making it easy for Putin to play the role of the aggrieved party.

BTW, I don't trust the Russians or the Chinese as far as I could throw them either.

randge  posted on  2015-08-26   17:29:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: randge, 4 (#4)

Most here don't trust any .govs.

Lod  posted on  2015-08-26   18:12:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#6. To: Lod (#5)

I wonder. If we could take a pool of the gang, don't you think most would declare Puttinsky a great leader?

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-08-26 20:00:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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