Freedom4um

Status: Not Logged In; Sign In

World News
See other World News Articles

Title: Russia Inadvertently Posts Its Casualties In Ukraine: 2,000 Deaths, 3,200 Disabled
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulrod ... an-casualties-in-east-ukraine/
Published: Aug 26, 2015
Author: forbes
Post Date: 2015-08-26 09:58:40 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
Keywords: None
Views: 137
Comments: 9

A local resident examines his building, destroyed during recent shelling, in the small town of Avdiivka, in the Donetsk region on August 25, 2015. Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko accused Russia of this week sending three military convoys over the border into the separatist-controlled east with a total of up to 500 tanks, 400 artillery systems and up to 950 military armoured vehicles to pro-Russian rebels, although he did not specify the time period for these deliveries. (ANATOLII STEPANOV/AFP/Getty Images)

Russian president Vladimir Putin has decreed that all Russian casualties “in peacetime” be a state secret. In addition to criminal charges arising from divulging state secrets, families risk losing pensions and lump-sum payments if they reveal that their sons were killed in Ukraine. Mothers of soldiers’ associations have been branded “foreign agents” for collecting data on Russian casualties. Dissident Boris Nemtsov was murdered shortly before completing his study of Russian casualties in Ukraine. Russian civil rights organizations, working against the fog of official resistance, could confirm only several hundred battlefield deaths.

Business Life (Delovaya Zhizn) reports on markets, finance, entrepreneurship, finance, and leisure, scarcely an outlet for sensational information. Its innocuously entitled “Increases in Pay for Military in 2015,” however, reveals what appear to be official figures on the number of Russian soldiers killed or made invalids “in eastern Ukraine.” Russian censors quickly removed the offending material but not before it had been webcached by the Ukrainian journal Novy Region (New Region). Here is the “top secret” material the censors removed (my translation):

Web-archived material removed by Russian censors containing casualty figures

“Compensation of military personnel taking part in military actions in Ukraine in 2014-2015.” In addition, the Russian government, in a decision about the monetary compensation of military personnel taking part in military action in eastern Ukraine, approved compensation for families of military personnel who were killed taking part in military action in Ukraine of three million rubles (about $50,000). For those who have become invalids during military action, the compensation is one and a half million rubles (about $25,000). A payment of 1,800 rubles is envisioned for contract “fighters” for every day of their presence in the conflict zone. In all, as of February 1, 2015, monetary compensation had been paid to more than 2,000 families of fallen soldiers and to 3,200 military personnel suffering heavy wounds and recognized as invalids (my italics).”

Sovietologists found many secrets of the USSR by digging into the Soviet press and technical and financial trade journals. That fallen and invalided military personnel are compensated must be reflected somewhere in budgets. As reported in Delovaya zhizn, compensation payments for those killed and invalided in Ukraine came to almost twenty million dollars, not a large share of the approximately $50 billion  defense budget but large enough to appear in an appropriate budget subcategory.

Click for Full Text!

Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread  


TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest

Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 7.

#1. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko accused Russia of this week sending three military convoys over the border into the separatist-controlled east with a total of up to 500 tanks, 400 artillery systems and up to 950 military armoured vehicles to pro-Russian rebels

LOL!!!!!

If there were ANY Russian tanks in Ukraine they'd be plastering the satellite images all over every MSM news outlet in the western world.

But FIVE HUNDRED???

OMG, Porky is snorting some seriously strong shit if he thinks any rational person would believe that. And for Forbes to parrot his lies makes them appear to be just as irrational.

500 tanks (along with the other alleged equipment) would decimate the ENTIRE UKRAINE MILITARY in a day or less. Perhaps they should have toned down their lies, like maybe claiming 5 or 10, instead of 500.

But even without the tanks, if there were "400 artillery systems and up to 950 military armoured vehicles" posed to attack Ukraine military units, the Ukraine military would be wiped out in a VERY short time.

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-08-26   13:11:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: FormerLurker (#1)

136 Ukraine servicemen have taken their own lives since the beginning of fighting in Donbass

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2015-08-30   9:00:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


Replies to Comment # 7.

#8. To: All (#7)

France, Germany and Russia Back Ceasefire in Donbass: Hold the Cheers

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2015-08-30 09:30:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


End Trace Mode for Comment # 7.

TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest